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samprasvsfederer123
03-31-2010, 04:03 PM
why is this known as the 5th slam?

when the atp masters cup pays way more, is counted more seriously almost like grand slams, what places it over miami, indian wells, rome, why is this the 5th slam?

Li Ching Yuen
03-31-2010, 04:06 PM
Because it's just a bit better than Umag, just a tad.

slicefox
03-31-2010, 04:06 PM
madrid pays the most of the mastesr and the stadium is nicer

samprasvsfederer123
03-31-2010, 04:07 PM
madrid pays the most of the mastesr and the stadium is nicer

so what u say madrid is better, still doesnt explain

Chezbeeno
03-31-2010, 04:09 PM
I thought Indian Wells was considered the 5th slam but maybe that's just me, but I could've sworn I had heard that somewhere

djokovicgonzalez2010
03-31-2010, 04:11 PM
lol its an inside joke... it's definitely not

samprasvsfederer123
03-31-2010, 04:15 PM
lol its an inside joke... it's definitely not

hm really well i ask this because evveryone is always saying cincinatti this cincinatti that,

tacou
03-31-2010, 04:20 PM
this and that, as in, lamest masters event. everrr

fed_rulz
03-31-2010, 04:38 PM
why is this known as the 5th slam?

when the atp masters cup pays way more, is counted more seriously almost like grand slams, what places it over miami, indian wells, rome, why is this the 5th slam?

because of this....

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=282818&highlight=cincinnati

Carsomyr
03-31-2010, 04:39 PM
Because it's consensus opinion. Conform, damn you.

samprasvsfederer123
03-31-2010, 04:42 PM
Because it's consensus opinion. Conform, damn you.

how am i gonna conform if its inferior to so many events

DAM YOU!

DONT BE A MINDLESS PAWN!

Skabeast121
03-31-2010, 04:49 PM
because of this....

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=282818&highlight=cincinnati

lol its been way too long since I have seen that thread...good times

Rhino
03-31-2010, 04:52 PM
It's not .

Blinkism
03-31-2010, 04:54 PM
Because the Serbia Open gets no respect.

Annika
03-31-2010, 04:54 PM
It's spelled Cincinnati. And I haven't a clue as to the answer.

fed_rulz
03-31-2010, 05:01 PM
lol its been way too long since I have seen that thread...good times

Yep, those were good times :). But, as a Fed fan, I still can't complain. Afterall he has won the most important tournament of the year so far

Fee
03-31-2010, 05:25 PM
I thought Indian Wells was considered the 5th slam but maybe that's just me, but I could've sworn I had heard that somewhere

You have, from a few people who are intent on trying to take that title away from Miami. Miami got it years ago back when IW was still a one week event held at a hotel. :)

bluetrain4
03-31-2010, 05:34 PM
There's never been any consensus that Cincinnati is the 5th Slam. It's just a marketing ploy to represent that it's a big, important tournament with a great field.

They used to say the same thing about Miami a few years after it started, and that would have been a more substantive claim since at the time, Miami had a full 128 draw and played best of 5 every round. But, this didn't last long. Anyway, again, it was just marketing.

It's like how the golf media calls the Player's Championships at TPC Sawgrass the 5th major. Nobody actually thinks it's a major. It's just recognition that thetournament is something more than other non-major golf tournaments.

egn
03-31-2010, 05:35 PM
Sureshs deemd it so you fool. Cincinnati is the real slam all the others pale in comparison.

soyizgood
03-31-2010, 05:49 PM
I thought Indian Wells was considered the 5th slam but maybe that's just me, but I could've sworn I had heard that somewhere

According to this poll, Indian Wells trumps Miami: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=314213&page=5

prattle128
03-31-2010, 06:00 PM
I hate the Cincinnati masters tournament. The only tournaments that should be considered for the unofficial title in my opinion are Indian Wells, Miami, and the World Tour Final. Kinda would be interesting if they had a grass masters tournament- just for some extra flair.

The-Champ
03-31-2010, 07:06 PM
why is this known as the 5th slam?

when the atp masters cup pays way more, is counted more seriously almost like grand slams, what places it over miami, indian wells, rome, why is this the 5th slam?


Federer worshippers came up with that..because federer won it twice.

jamesblakefan#1
03-31-2010, 07:12 PM
Federer worshippers came up with that..because federer won it twice.

How trollish can you be? Fed's won IW 3 times, and Hamburg 4 times, so why not those events instead, Einstein?

himynameisNIKE
03-31-2010, 07:14 PM
How trollish can you be? Fed's won IW 3 times, and Hamburg 4 times, so why not those events instead, Einstein?


arent you in college?

The-Champ
03-31-2010, 07:21 PM
How trollish can you be? Fed's won IW 3 times, and Hamburg 4 times, so why not those events instead, Einstein?

How ignorant can you be? Nadal has won those events you mentioned, but not Cincy!


Monte Carlo is the 5th slam!!

Mun
03-31-2010, 07:25 PM
Davis Cup and Olympics go after majors. So happy Nadal has won those! He is the ultimate champion!
Davis Cup is underrated because Americans only won once in 10 years. Davis Cup is huge and should be considerer in the GOAT discussion!!!

Dilettante
03-31-2010, 07:27 PM
Monte Carlo is the 5th slam!!

Don't tell Sureshs or he will mess the GOAT's slams recount again.

Thanks to him, I am currently not sure of how many slams Federer has (something between 13 and 20 I think) and the last thing we need is another twist now that we are trying to figure out the maths.


By the way, the REAL 5th slam is the Zaragoza F10 Futures... did Federer win this? He can't be the GOAT if he didn't.

Sentinel
03-31-2010, 07:33 PM
Our expert sureshs declared Cincy to be the 5th slam, thinking that Nadal would win it.

Sadly, that did not happen.

That one thread also launched sureshs into the TW Posters Eternal Hall of Fame (along with other greats such as Fedace).

Dilettante
03-31-2010, 07:38 PM
That one thread also launched sureshs into the TW Posters Eternal Hall of Fame (along with other greats such as Fedace).

Don't forget Aykhan Mammadov.

His greatness couldn't be measured.

Rippy
04-01-2010, 04:32 AM
Federer worshippers came up with that..because federer won it twice.

Have a read at the thread... Sureshs started calling Cincinnati the 5th slam specifically to mock Federer.

Gorecki
04-01-2010, 04:41 AM
Federer worshippers came up with that..because federer won it twice.

sad day in ttw... sad day...

samprasvsfederer123
04-01-2010, 06:01 AM
Davis Cup and Olympics go after majors. So happy Nadal has won those! He is the ultimate champion!
Davis Cup is underrated because Americans only won once in 10 years. Davis Cup is huge and should be considerer in the GOAT discussion!!!

no dude davis cup nor olympics can possibly be the 5th slam it has to be the masters cup

samprasvsfederer123
04-01-2010, 06:02 AM
Don't tell Sureshs or he will mess the GOAT's slams recount again.

Thanks to him, I am currently not sure of how many slams Federer has (something between 13 and 20 I think) and the last thing we need is another twist now that we are trying to figure out the maths.


By the way, the REAL 5th slam is the Zaragoza F10 Futures... did Federer win this? He can't be the GOAT if he didn't.

wow well it wasnt only him i heard this from but i guess al the other people are mocking him when They say it, oh well whatever drakulie aint in there?

i hope someday i get to the hof even though i have a long way to go

AM95
04-01-2010, 06:24 AM
its an inside joke on TT

defrule
04-01-2010, 06:32 AM
I hope this joke spreads.

Matt H.
04-01-2010, 06:33 AM
Miami has been tagged the 5th slam for decades.

Indian Wells was on it's way to being shipped out, and it's in the desert.

Key Biscayne and South Beach can't be beat.

sureshs
04-01-2010, 07:26 AM
Cincinatti is not the 5th Slam - it is the real Slam.

Gorecki
04-01-2010, 07:38 AM
^^^so true... people refer at kinky as if it was the 5th... no way. it's the real deal, el numero uno, the OG, the mac daddy... the uber slaminator...

i dont know what i am saying!...

LuckyR
04-01-2010, 08:31 AM
You have, from a few people who are intent on trying to take that title away from Miami. Miami got it years ago back when IW was still a one week event held at a hotel. :)

Numbers don't lie. IW>Miami

Commando Tennis Shorts
04-01-2010, 08:37 AM
On the thread about who is a better hardcourter out of Roddick and Nadal, didn't somebody say Roddick b/c he has two Slams :) Then their reasoning was that Roddick had won Cincinnati. The hilarious part is, I don't think they were being sarcastic.

In any case, it all comes down to preference. Different tournaments mean different things to different people, just like the Slams

BTW, even if a MS event was considered the most prestigious, shame on anyone who refers to it as "the 5th Slam" b/c NOTHING even comes close.

swordtennis
04-01-2010, 08:43 AM
Actually Fed did real good in the Cincy Tournament. It definately showed his GOATness. He deserves big time props for that result.