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JRstriker12
04-04-2010, 12:29 PM
Nadal to wear $525,000 watch during matches

http://www.tennis.com/articles/templates/news.aspx?articleid=4823&zoneid=25

Also, will he need an armored guard when he walks to the court?

That's sick. $500,000 for a watch. The Lambo spyder that they had on display in the mall the other day only cost about $300,000....

Ambivalent
04-04-2010, 12:31 PM
This is the part where all the *********s making fun of Federer wearing a watch come up with excuses...

JRstriker12
04-04-2010, 12:34 PM
This is the part where all the *********s making fun of Federer wearing a watch come up with excuses...

BTW - Anyone have a pict of Fed playing with a Rolex?

Fedace
04-04-2010, 12:35 PM
http://richard-mille.com/#

for that price, it better be able to tell the Future, not just time.

CMM
04-04-2010, 12:36 PM
This is the part where all the *********s making fun of Federer wearing a watch come up with excuses...

Why would they do that when Robredo or Henin play with a watch too?

Ambivalent
04-04-2010, 12:36 PM
http://thewatchlounge.com/richard-mille-rm-027-tourbillon-coming-to-a-court-near-you/

can anyone actually tell time on that thing?

CMM
04-04-2010, 12:36 PM
http://richard-mille.com/#

for that price, it better be able to tell the Future, not just time.

:lol:.........................

World Beater
04-04-2010, 12:40 PM
funny..all the talk about federer and his lack of humility - fancy clothes

we have rafa wearing a ridiculously expensive watch - how humble of him. looks like **** is a fancier boy than even federer.

samprasvsfederer123
04-04-2010, 12:43 PM
doesnt federer get like tons of 100k+ watches everytime he is in a grand slam final period whether he wins or not? it doesnt mean theyre arrogant it means they have class and that theyre big enough to wear that, atleast to the watch companies, dam federer must have like 20+ rolex watches favlued in total of more than 2 million dollars.

o.j. simpson was biching about his rolex while federer has like 10 my god.

swissmiss
04-04-2010, 12:45 PM
I don't think Fed ever wears his watch while playing, does he? I thought he just slipped it on for the post-match stuff.

I don't see what this has to do with Federer or arrogance or humility though. Who cares?

Damn that watch is expensive. If I were Rafa I'd be scared of accidentally giving it a whack with my racket or something. I wonder if the watch will disrupt his little routines at the baseline! For one thing he'll only have one sweatband...

JeMar
04-04-2010, 12:45 PM
That Rafa. So humble.

vllaznia
04-04-2010, 12:45 PM
How will Nadal play with a watch on his hand, he uses double hand backhand, its pretty uncomfortable.

CMM
04-04-2010, 12:48 PM
That Rafa. So humble.

:roll:

It's not like he bought the watch and decided to show it off. It's business.

swissmiss
04-04-2010, 12:51 PM
i dont think he will be actually playing with it...

The promo on that website says he'll be wearing it during matches. I guess we'll have to see ...

Rippy
04-04-2010, 12:53 PM
i dont think he will be actually playing with it...

The website says he will, but it could be wrong. You're right though, it'd be very strange...

rovex
04-04-2010, 12:53 PM
He will NOT wear it during matches. I promise you that Nike will not allow it to happen.

decades
04-04-2010, 12:54 PM
Rafa is all about the common man, no? He dirves a KIA after all. I mean unless nobody is looking....

rovex
04-04-2010, 12:56 PM
Rafa is all about the common man, no? He dirves a KIA after all. I mean unless nobody is looking....

He drives an Aston Martin DB9.

bezs
04-04-2010, 01:01 PM
Woah that's insane. Probably will wear it pre-match and post-match its gonna get in the way of his wrist bands.

samprasvsfederer123
04-04-2010, 01:01 PM
He drives an Aston Martin DB9.

ahaha well said, and to answer the op's first question, no he likes to waste time, when about to serve, and cries about it when people make fun of his butt picking

take soderling in wimby 2008 he joked about nadal's butt picking in a nice way no harm intended and nadal looks like he just got screwed or something, then he makes that face as well when after like a min of waiting soderling changes his racket, learn to apreciate the tennis rules, and learn to take simple light hearted jokes rafa, you are a superb tennis player but sometimes there are things that i dont like about you.

josh91
04-04-2010, 01:02 PM
He also have a watch deal with Time Force. He always wear one of them after the match.

volleynets
04-04-2010, 01:03 PM
What use is that? We see Nadal's Ballistecs, we buy them. Who the hell here can afford a $525,000 dollar watch? Is the point of advertising in this case to advertise to people richer than Nadal?

West Coast Ace
04-04-2010, 01:04 PM
http://thewatchlounge.com/richard-mille-rm-027-tourbillon-coming-to-a-court-near-you/

can anyone actually tell time on that thing?Before someone else says it (and I respect Rafa - this is just for laughs - lighten up Rafa fans!):

Rafa can - no matter where the hands are it's "Time to pick my Butt!" time... :)

namelessone
04-04-2010, 01:06 PM
So what will nike do,will Rafa wear the watch under the wristband?

Anyway,Rafa is milked for all he is worth at this point,he has contracts with babolat,quelly,nike,kia,now this. I don't mind him wearing watches afterwards but I can't see how ANYONE can play tennis with a watch,even a light one.

I think he has too many things going on outside of tennis: the shakira thing,now this. He does not seem as focused as it as before,not as hungry perhaps.

samprasvsfederer123
04-04-2010, 01:06 PM
What use is that? We see Nadal's Ballistecs, we buy them. Who the hell here can afford a $525,000 dollar watch? Is the point of advertising in this case to advertise to people richer than Nadal?

i think federer's rolex thing kinda makes sense,

he is very world renowned, very classy, very handsome, from switzerland which is where rolex is from and there are many rich people in switzerland that follow roger and might want to wear a rolex, but ive never even heard of nadal's new watch company thing, ya ya stupid me, and it wouldnt have the same shizzam.

rovex
04-04-2010, 01:11 PM
Woah that's insane. Probably will wear it pre-match and post-match its gonna get in the way of his wrist bands.

That's why he won't wear it during matches. Nike will not allow him to wear a watch on one of his wrist instead of wristband.

He could wear it underneath, but what's the point of that?

CMM
04-04-2010, 01:11 PM
So what will nike do,will Rafa wear the watch under the wristband?

Anyway,Rafa is milked for all he is worth at this point,he has contracts with babolat,quelly,nike,kia,now this. I don't mind him wearing watches afterwards but I can't see how ANYONE can play tennis with a watch,even a light one.

I think he has too many things going on outside of tennis: the shakira thing,now this. He does not seem as focused as it as before,not as hungry perhaps.

They can...
http://i43.tinypic.com/2rhmv50.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/29uvcdj.jpg
Although they both have a one handed backhand, so it might be a little harder for Rafa.

angiebaby
04-04-2010, 01:14 PM
Damn, that watch is ridiculously pricey. Sounds like a wicked business deal for Rafa though.

And I don't get all the jabs about his humility? What does that have to do with anything?

namelessone
04-04-2010, 01:16 PM
Damn, that watch is ridiculously pricey. Sounds like a wicked business deal for Rafa though.

And I don't get all the jabs about his humility? What does that have to do with anything?

I don't understand why Rafa has been labeled "humble". Rafa is just a well mannered guy who has always known his place in the tennis world(and seems to be a pretty nice guy off-court). That's not being humble it's called being a realist. These guys are multi millionaries,how the hell can they be "humble". I had not idea that humble=well mannered.

ruerooo
04-04-2010, 01:23 PM
BTW - Anyone have a pict of Fed playing with a Rolex?

He's contractually required to wear his Rolex during all promotional stuff (including H2H), but I've never seen him wear it for a tournament match.

http://p5.img.cctvpic.com/program/sportsscene/20100118/images/1263776982788_1263776982788_r.jpg

rovex
04-04-2010, 01:25 PM
but I've never seen him wear it for a tournament match.

Because Nike won't allow him to.

onehandbh
04-04-2010, 01:27 PM
Rafa needs this watch. He needs a light watch that he
can wear while playing tennis so that he can keep track of
how much time he takes between points. He has been
losing track and the opponents and fans have been complaining.
Now he has no excuses.

reversef
04-04-2010, 01:29 PM
I don't understand why Rafa has been labeled "humble". Rafa is just a well mannered guy who has always known his place in the tennis world(and seems to be a pretty nice guy off-court). That's not being humble it's called being a realist. These guys are multi millionaries,how the hell can they be "humble". I had not idea that humble=well mannered.
Federer is well mannered, he's not humble. Different thing. Nadal is both well mannered and humble IMO.

Fedace
04-04-2010, 01:33 PM
Does anyone know what makes this watch so Expensive ??? I can't tell any obvious huge Diamond or rare green saphire on the watch anywhere...................???

ruerooo
04-04-2010, 01:35 PM
Well, it's certainly a beautiful sports watch

http://ispotted.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/rafael-nadal-richard-mille-rm027-tourbillon-2-rafael-nadal-x-richard-mille-rm027-tourbillon.jpeg?w=558&h=707

rovex
04-04-2010, 01:36 PM
Does anyone know what makes this watch so Expensive ??? I can't tell any obvious huge Diamond or rare green saphire on the watch anywhere...................???

The aluminium is very expensive.

ruerooo
04-04-2010, 02:00 PM
wow how does that even work

Well, I guess the fact it's difficult to figure out (in addition to the fact it's apparently one of the lightest sports watches ever built, and is built to resist changes to its functionality that could otherwise happen with on-court movement) is one of the reasons it costs what it does ($525,000).

Anyway, Rafa apparently wore it during his match with A-Rod, and we all know how that turned out.

http://www.hauteliving.com/blog/rafael-nadal-and-richard-mille-a-match-made-for-sony-ericsson-heaven/
*sigh*

Though if he'd won the championship, that would have been quite a coup for the watchmaker.

West Coast Ace
04-04-2010, 02:05 PM
Anyway, Rafa apparently wore it during his match with A-Rod, and we all know how that turned out.
I watched the match - Rafa had on his standard wristbands - no watch that I ever saw....

If someone has a link to a pic that proves otherwise, please post.

ruerooo
04-04-2010, 02:10 PM
I watched the match - Rafa had on his standard wristbands - no watch that I ever saw....

If someone has a link to a pic that proves otherwise, please post.

If you read carefully, my post says "apparently".
I got my information from the article.

If you're planning on purchasing the watch and it matters that much to you, I'm sure if you reach out to Messr. Mille he'll be happy to provide you with a picture.
:roll:

djokovicgonzalez2010
04-04-2010, 02:11 PM
NOTHING can keep him from timewasting

sonicare
04-04-2010, 02:11 PM
WOW...they only have to sell 2 and they have a million dollar turnover. crazy. lolz

Justdoit10
04-04-2010, 02:12 PM
Yeah Nadal wasnt wearing it friday.

rovex
04-04-2010, 02:13 PM
I just got out an overdraft, i'm getting me one!

richjohn
04-04-2010, 02:17 PM
If it is true, I will say it is not a good match....one who never be on time.

JRstriker12
04-04-2010, 02:46 PM
He's contractually required to wear his Rolex during all promotional stuff (including H2H), but I've never seen him wear it for a tournament match.

http://p5.img.cctvpic.com/program/sportsscene/20100118/images/1263776982788_1263776982788_r.jpg

Thanks. (10 char)

JeMar
04-04-2010, 03:06 PM
:roll:

It's not like he bought the watch and decided to show it off. It's business.

And the Nike jacket at Wimbledon? Does Federer wear that stuff for free?

I'm just pointing out that this should end the double standard applied to Federer and Nadal. They're both rich as hell and they like nice things. That's the end of the story.

ruerooo
04-04-2010, 03:16 PM
WOW...they only have to sell 2 and they have a million dollar turnover. crazy. lolz

That's a million gross. You still have to deduct your manufacturing, R&D and promotional expenses (I'm sure they've portioned out the amounts they paid Rafa :-) ) before you know what your net is.

P.S. This is a bit OT, and possibly a strange question, but why is your username the name of my toothbrush?

angiebaby
04-04-2010, 03:27 PM
Well, it's certainly a beautiful sports watch

http://ispotted.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/rafael-nadal-richard-mille-rm027-tourbillon-2-rafael-nadal-x-richard-mille-rm027-tourbillon.jpeg?w=558&h=707


That is an amazing-looking watch.

ronalditop
04-04-2010, 03:28 PM
Why do you even need a watch while playing tennis anyway?

JeMar
04-04-2010, 03:41 PM
I wear a watch while playing, but it's more out of habit than any real practical reason. I don't even look at it when I'm playing, but it kinda feels weird when I don't wear it.

ruerooo
04-04-2010, 03:46 PM
I wear a watch while playing, but it's more out of habit than any real practical reason. I don't even look at it when I'm playing, but it kinda feels weird when I don't wear it.

Do you play left-handed, or right-handed? And is your watch arm the same as your racquet arm?

Chadwixx
04-04-2010, 03:47 PM
Well, it's certainly a beautiful sports watch

http://ispotted.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/rafael-nadal-richard-mille-rm027-tourbillon-2-rafael-nadal-x-richard-mille-rm027-tourbillon.jpeg?w=558&h=707

I dont like it. Dont really see its appeal.

Rippy
04-04-2010, 03:49 PM
Because Nike won't allow him to.

Surely it's cos Fed's contract with Rolex ISN'T for during matches? Whereas from that article it appears Rafa's contract IS for during matches... I think Nike's opinion on this has nothing to do with it.

JeMar
04-04-2010, 03:51 PM
Do you play left-handed, or right-handed? And is your watch arm the same as your racquet arm?

I'm right-handed and my watch is on my left wrist. It's totally placebo, but when I don't wear it, I feel like my toss is a little off.

rommil
04-04-2010, 03:55 PM
Never mind the timewasting. It will do Rafa more good if he bribed his opponents with these watches so he can finally get a title.

defrule
04-04-2010, 03:55 PM
20g more weight in his shots.

Fedace
04-04-2010, 04:06 PM
Well, I guess the fact it's difficult to figure out (in addition to the fact it's apparently one of the lightest sports watches ever built, and is built to resist changes to its functionality that could otherwise happen with on-court movement) is one of the reasons it costs what it does ($525,000).

Anyway, Rafa apparently wore it during his match with A-Rod, and we all know how that turned out.

http://www.hauteliving.com/blog/rafael-nadal-and-richard-mille-a-match-made-for-sony-ericsson-heaven/
*sigh*

Though if he'd won the championship, that would have been quite a coup for the watchmaker.

No wonder Rafa lost,,,he was trying to be careful not to scratch it.

ruerooo
04-04-2010, 04:09 PM
I'm right-handed and my watch is on my left wrist. It's totally placebo, but when I don't wear it, I feel like my toss is a little off.

Those placebos will get you every time. :)

OrangeOne
04-04-2010, 04:24 PM
Does anyone know what makes this watch so Expensive ??? I can't tell any obvious huge Diamond or rare green saphire on the watch anywhere...................???

You really are 12 aren't you?

pame
04-04-2010, 06:19 PM
http://richard-mille.com/#

for that price, it better be able to tell the Future, not just time.

LOL. Priceless!

sonicare
04-04-2010, 06:42 PM
That's a million gross. You still have to deduct your manufacturing, R&D and promotional expenses (I'm sure they've portioned out the amounts they paid Rafa :-) ) before you know what your net is.

P.S. This is a bit OT, and possibly a strange question, but why is your username the name of my toothbrush?

Becos when I was registering on this forum, I didnt know what UN to pick. I looked around my room and saw my toothbrush box and decided on sonicare. HAHA. Awesome toothbrushes BTW.

BobFL
04-04-2010, 06:56 PM
The first Richard Mille watch model was released in 2001. What a joke :)

Bud
04-04-2010, 06:59 PM
:confused:

http://thewatchlounge.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/RM027_front2_jpg.jpg

BobFL
04-04-2010, 07:43 PM
:confused:

http://thewatchlounge.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/RM027_front2_jpg.jpg

7:53 right? :)

JRstriker12
04-04-2010, 08:05 PM
For $500,000 does this watch shock him when it's time to stop picking his butt???

The-Champ
04-04-2010, 08:08 PM
Does anyone know what makes this watch so Expensive ??? I can't tell any obvious huge Diamond or rare green saphire on the watch anywhere...................???



It has the ability to shield its bearer in a nuclear blast.

[d]ragon
04-04-2010, 08:16 PM
:confused:


The dots on the outside of the watch are the hours. Yeah, it took me abit to figure it out.

[d]ragon
04-04-2010, 08:18 PM
That's why he won't wear it during matches. Nike will not allow him to wear a watch on one of his wrist instead of wristband.

He could wear it underneath, but what's the point of that?

Might I ask for a source of where it says that players can't wear a watch?

rommil
04-04-2010, 08:55 PM
It has the ability to shield its bearer in a nuclear blast.

There's a more expensive version that shields Rafa from
Soderling bombs. Rafa wish to save enough money in time for the French Open.

nicolaisidek
04-04-2010, 09:10 PM
seriously though...i've seen rolexes (plural?) with more diamonds on them and cost much cheaper. Maybe this watch has a 25 sec beeper between points to warn nadal. And fed's wearing a normal rolex. I think it's the Milgauss

TennisNinja
04-04-2010, 09:22 PM
Half a million........

TennisandMusic
04-04-2010, 09:29 PM
Yikes, so much for being a man of the people haha. Who is that even advertising too? What's his payment? He gets to keep the thing at the end of the contract?

abraxas21
04-04-2010, 10:27 PM
Rafa is getting paid for this. Just like Roger gets paid for using his Rolex. I see no problem here. Any bloke would do it. Hell, do you think I'll oppose if someone ever asks me to wear a pricy watch for a huge million dollar contract? I'd do it in a second and so would any other person of "the people".

That said, 20 grams is really nothing. Hell, his wristband must weight more than that.

TheTruth
04-04-2010, 11:15 PM
He's worth it. Good call!

Bud
04-04-2010, 11:47 PM
ragon;4537490']The dots on the outside of the watch are the hours. Yeah, it took me abit to figure it out.

Yeah... but it has like 20 hands :-?

A bit silly and impractical... especially for half a million dollars :shock:

angiebaby
04-05-2010, 12:45 AM
So what will nike do,will Rafa wear the watch under the wristband?

Anyway,Rafa is milked for all he is worth at this point,he has contracts with babolat,quelly,nike,kia,now this. I don't mind him wearing watches afterwards but I can't see how ANYONE can play tennis with a watch,even a light one.

I think he has too many things going on outside of tennis: the shakira thing,now this. He does not seem as focused as it as before,not as hungry perhaps.


I disagree. Because of a watch contract (albeit an expensive one!) and his dynamic with Shakira he's suddenly not focused? I don't think so. Neither of these things is bad for him imo.

Rippy
04-05-2010, 03:39 AM
Yeah... but it has like 20 hands :-?

A bit silly and impractical... especially for half a million dollars :shock:

If you look, you can see two hands which are big and are the minute and hour hand. There are 2 sort of "V shapes" with hands at the top and bottom, I dunno if they're just something to do with the mechanism because they don't seem to be involved with telling the time.

David_Is_Right
04-05-2010, 04:04 AM
It still needs to be accurate and reliable, as well as be able to withstand the shocks and impacts of everyday use, which in this case are greatly magnified given that the piece is strapped to one of the most active wrists in the world.

Can't help thinking that some of the idiots on TT probably would take that title.

David_Is_Right
04-05-2010, 04:07 AM
Watch now as like Jay Z and his ilk clamor get one of these ugly Mille watches and their credibility goes through the floor.

BallzofSkill
04-05-2010, 05:38 AM
with one contract nadal just took his boot and shoved it up every *******'s *** that's ever made a comment about federer's personality.

JRstriker12
04-05-2010, 05:42 AM
Watch now as like Jay Z and his ilk clamor get one of these ugly Mille watches and their credibility goes through the floor.

Pfttt.... Jay-z probably has a few million dollar watches. Mille wishes he could have Jay-z drop the name of the Brand on every track...

drakulie
04-05-2010, 05:55 AM
The watch is so unreadable, he is now going to take even more time trying to read how much time he has left before he has to serve.

rommil
04-05-2010, 07:00 AM
:confused:

http://thewatchlounge.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/RM027_front2_jpg.jpg

Any unforced error from his opponent will have Rafa break out his vamos fistpumps it will destroy the watch.

nicolaisidek
04-05-2010, 08:45 AM
^^^ probably made to withstand those pumps. Haha.

sureshs
04-05-2010, 08:50 AM
LOL people will think it is a cheap watch meant for hands which butt-pick all the time.

Matt H.
04-05-2010, 08:58 AM
$500K? lol

i wouldn't even pay 50 bucks for that thing.


we live in a funny world today.

sureshs
04-05-2010, 09:07 AM
$500K? lol

i wouldn't even pay 50 bucks for that thing.


we live in a funny world today.

No, expensive watches were always a status symbol. Nothing new.

Dilettante
04-05-2010, 09:20 AM
:confused:

http://thewatchlounge.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/RM027_front2_jpg.jpg

No matter the price, it looks like a freakin' cheap toy watch that came in a cereal box.

Wouldn't be surprised if reading "Kellogg's" on the back.



I guess rich people can afford being that tasteless.

Federiffic
04-05-2010, 09:51 AM
This makes me sad to think he would have 500k watch as people in Haiti have no food or shelter.

He should spend some of his time and money to help those in need like, Roger Federer is doing. Roger is building schools for kids in Africa in spare time, Nadal is making music video, driving fancy James Bond car, and wearing a 500k watch, he should be ashamed of himself.

CMM
04-05-2010, 09:53 AM
This makes me sad to think he would have 500k watch as people in Haiti have no food or shelter.

He should spend some of his time and money to help those in need like, Roger Federer is doing. Roger is building schools for kids in Africa in spare time, Nadal is making music video, driving fancy James Bond car, and wearing a 500k watch, he should be ashamed of himself.

http://i40.tinypic.com/2d1v8dl.gif

dmt
04-05-2010, 09:54 AM
This makes me sad to think he would have 500k watch as people in Haiti have no food or shelter.

He should spend some of his time and money to help those in need like, Roger Federer is doing. Roger is building schools for kids in Africa in spare time, Nadal is making music video, driving fancy James Bond car, and wearing a 500k watch, he should be ashamed of himself.

he has nothing to be ashamed of. Nadal can do whatever he wants in his life. Like roger doesnt buy anything expensive right? He donates all he has to charity right? Nadal does spend some of his time helping people, like playing an exhibition with Agassi vs fed and sampras, and i think he has also signed up to do something for chile

you should be ashamed of yourself

CMM
04-05-2010, 10:10 AM
This makes me sad to think he would have 500k watch as people in Haiti have no food or shelter.

He should spend some of his time and money to help those in need like, Roger Federer is doing. Roger is building schools for kids in Africa in spare time, Nadal is making music video, driving fancy James Bond car, and wearing a 500k watch, he should be ashamed of himself.

http://www.fundacionrafanadal.com/projects/

Dilettante
04-05-2010, 10:19 AM
This makes me sad to think he would have 500k watch as people in Haiti have no food or shelter.

He should spend some of his time and money to help those in need like, Roger Federer is doing. Roger is building schools for kids in Africa in spare time, Nadal is making music video, driving fancy James Bond car, and wearing a 500k watch, he should be ashamed of himself.

WTF

Nadal can spend his time and money in what he likes and nothing more. As long as he earned his money honestly we can't tell him what to do with it. Just because he has more money than me, I don't see what should he do anything different.

Let people live their lives: playing tennis and making money of it won't hurt anybody.

Federiffic
04-05-2010, 10:24 AM
http://www.fundacionrafanadal.com/projects/

This is Ok is nice he help build one school, but I don't see him helping as much as Roger.

Roger he build 8 schools and he actually go to Africa to help and play with children, the
children sing song to him "Roger our Father"
and he run race against kids.
http://www.looktothestars.org/news/3878-roger-federer-visits-ethiopia-for-charity

This cost Roger 1 million dollar, if Nadal not buy watch, he could have build 4 schools for children instead of just 1 school.

Federiffic
04-05-2010, 10:31 AM
Roger's Rolex watch is only 25k, that is all rich man or president needs, 500k is too much and
I don't see how anyone can wear with good thought in mind.

feetofclay
04-05-2010, 10:33 AM
He should spend some of his time and money to help those in need like, Roger Federer is doing. Roger is building schools for kids in Africa in spare time

I believe Nadal does help those in need. The difference is that he and his foundation go quietly about their business. They don't appear to feel the need to turn charity work into a publicity stunt.

Federer_pilon
04-05-2010, 10:34 AM
This is Ok is nice he help build one school, but I don't see him helping as much as Roger.

Roger he build 8 schools and he actually go to Africa to help and play with children, the
children sing song to him "Roger our Father"
and he run race against kids.
http://www.looktothestars.org/news/3878-roger-federer-visits-ethiopia-for-charity

This cost Roger 1 million dollar, if Nadal not buy watch, he could have build 4 schools for children instead of just 1 school.

Roger can buy meals for hundreds of African kids if he doesn't get $800 haircuts too lol

CMM
04-05-2010, 10:37 AM
This is Ok is nice he help build one school, but I don't see him helping as much as Roger.

Roger he build 8 schools and he actually go to Africa to help and play with children, the
children sing song to him "Roger our Father"
and he run race against kids.
http://www.looktothestars.org/news/3878-roger-federer-visits-ethiopia-for-charity

This cost Roger 1 million dollar, if Nadal not buy watch, he could have build 4 schools for children instead of just 1 school.

Nadal didn't buy any watch. It's an advertising deal. He promotes it and gets paid for that. Just like Federer with Rolex.
I would like to tell you a couple of things, but I will probably end up being banned. I'll try to ignore you.

rommil
04-05-2010, 10:37 AM
This is Ok is nice he help build one school, but I don't see him helping as much as Roger.

Roger he build 8 schools and he actually go to Africa to help and play with children, the
children sing song to him "Roger our Father"
and he run race against kids.
http://www.looktothestars.org/news/3878-roger-federer-visits-ethiopia-for-charity

This cost Roger 1 million dollar, if Nadal not buy watch, he could have build 4 schools for children instead of just 1 school.


I don't know if you are being serious or not but you made me laugh. I have a mental picture of Rafa looking the time on the watch running away from angry potential school kids.

Federiffic
04-05-2010, 10:51 AM
Nadal didn't buy any watch. It's an advertising deal. He promotes it and gets paid for that. Just like Federer with Rolex.
I would like to tell you a couple of things, but I will probably end up being banned. I'll try to ignore you.

OK, I don't want you to be banned, I don't understand why you are mad with me, I not talk about Nadal 500k watch anymore.

rommil
04-05-2010, 11:03 AM
OK, I don't want you to be banned, I don't understand why you are mad with me, I not talk about Nadal 500k watch anymore.

Keep talking like that, it's hilarious LOL. Don't let these boorish unimaginative, humorless people get in your way.

ronalditop
04-05-2010, 11:25 AM
Nadal didn't buy any watch. It's an advertising deal. He promotes it and gets paid for that. Just like Federer with Rolex.
I would like to tell you a couple of things, but I will probably end up being banned. I'll try to ignore you.

Hey man relax. Why are you so mad?

surfvland
04-05-2010, 12:01 PM
I don't think Fed ever wears his watch while playing, does he? I thought he just slipped it on for the post-match stuff.

I don't see what this has to do with Federer or arrogance or humility though. Who cares?

Damn that watch is expensive. If I were Rafa I'd be scared of accidentally giving it a whack with my racket or something. I wonder if the watch will disrupt his little routines at the baseline! For one thing he'll only have one sweatband...

I've seen Fed wear it during exo's.

okdude1992
04-05-2010, 12:16 PM
wearing watches during a match is so...lame

okdude1992
04-05-2010, 12:17 PM
Keep talking like that, it's hilarious LOL. Don't let these boorish unimaginative, humorless people get in your way.

maybe english is their second language? or you could be right and it's all a joke :)

OrangeOne
04-05-2010, 12:19 PM
I believe Nadal does help those in need. The difference is that he and his foundation go quietly about their business. They don't appear to feel the need to turn charity work into a publicity stunt.

I am so sick of people painting either fed or nadal as a saint by deriding the other. They both seem to be be great guys, and great ambassadors for the sport. Just like any megastar celebrity, one side-reason for their foundations etc is to make their earnings seem slightly more acceptable, show that they are considerate celebrity citizens. I say this is a side-reason, I'm sure they do genuinely want to give back, share their good fortune.

A quick google shows Nadal's foundation isn't holier-than-thou about their approach to marketing and media - see below. Please note I am not in any way criticising Nadal / the foundation for this, it's normal and expected, i'm just saying he/they are doing what's normal, just as Fed does.

http://www.zimbio.com/Rafael+Nadal/articles/188/Tennis+gives+back+Rafa+Nadal+Foundation+launch
http://www.fundacionrafanadal.com/news/
http://blog.taragana.com/sports/2009/06/05/nadal-foundation-to-set-up-tennis-school-in-india-french-open-diary-1952/
http://tennisinfoblog.com/rafael-nadals-foundation-to-open-tennis-school-in-india
http://tennisconnected.com/home/tag/nadal-foundation-hat/

angiebaby
04-05-2010, 12:33 PM
This is Ok is nice he help build one school, but I don't see him helping as much as Roger.

Roger he build 8 schools and he actually go to Africa to help and play with children, the
children sing song to him "Roger our Father"
and he run race against kids.
http://www.looktothestars.org/news/3878-roger-federer-visits-ethiopia-for-charity

This cost Roger 1 million dollar, if Nadal not buy watch, he could have build 4 schools for children instead of just 1 school.


Yes yes. Roger is a saint, an angel sent from above and he can do no wrong. Rafa is the devil incarnate who doesn't care about anyone but himself.

Happy now?

Federiffic
04-05-2010, 12:37 PM
Here is picture of Roger with his Rolex, buying cheaper watch he was able to help all these children.

http://tennisinfoblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/roger-federer-ethopia.jpg

OrangeOne
04-05-2010, 12:41 PM
Here is picture of Roger with his Rolex, buying cheaper watch he was able to help all these children.

Give it up. Everyone but you seems to understand sponsorship. Both Nadal and Federer have been given these watches and they get paid to wear them. Both of them also have foundations to help other people.

Both are good, generous guys. Why feel the need to paint a different picture?

JRstriker12
04-05-2010, 12:52 PM
BTW guys - my OP was meant to be more humorus more than anything else.

Considering that both Fed and Rafa get paid freaking millions to play tennis (something I pay to do or would do for free) and are probably given millions of dollars in gifts and sponsorships (watches, cars, clothes, etc.....), it ridiculous to argue that one is more saintly than the other because Fed's Rolex only cost $100,000 compared to Rafa's $500,000 watch.

Really, both items are pretty obscene in price as far as the average guy on the street is concerned....

Federiffic
04-05-2010, 12:52 PM
Give it up. Everyone but you seems to understand sponsorship. Both Nadal and Federer have been given these watches and they get paid to wear them. Both of them also have foundations to help other people.

Both are good, generous guys. Why feel the need to paint a different picture?

I am not painting different picture, problem is most people see picture wrong. It is not right to have 500k watch whether given to him or he buy it, when there are people all over the world suffering. That is real picture, which is being ignored here, simply because a man swings tennis racquet good.

OrangeOne
04-05-2010, 01:00 PM
I am not painting different picture, problem is most people see picture wrong. It is not right to have 500k watch whether given to him or he buy it, when there are people all over the world suffering. That is real picture, which is being ignored here, simply because a man swings tennis racquet good.

Don't backpedal now, you clearly were claiming Federer was somehow superior (you posted photos of him doing charitable work), you also claimed Nadal bought the watch. Of course the 500k watch doesn't cost that in materials anyways....

Both of them are highly paid, that's economics for you. Be thankful they choose to use some of the money for good.

JRstriker12
04-05-2010, 01:06 PM
I am not painting different picture, problem is most people see picture wrong. It is not right to have 500k watch whether given to him or he buy it, when there are people all over the world suffering. That is real picture, which is being ignored here, simply because a man swings tennis racquet good.

You sound kind of naive. If this is your point then condemn all the top players on the ATP. Condemn every rich business man or rich Hollywood actor. etc......

As strange as it may seem, a $500K watch is a drop in the bucket for some folks, that includes BOTH Fed and Rafa, who both have charitable foundations. You can look at a guy like Bill Gates who has tons of money and does a lot of good work, but for sure, he's not going hungry and he's flying in on his own private jet.

Whatever way you slice it, whether or not Rafa is given a $500K watch, that money is not going to be directed to help the needy. For sure, a measly $500K isn't going to solve the world's problems. So your point is pretty moot.

Federiffic
04-05-2010, 01:27 PM
You sound kind of naive. If this is your point then condemn all the top players on the ATP. Condemn every rich business man or rich Hollywood actor. etc......

As strange as it may seem, a $500K watch is a drop in the bucket for some folks, that includes BOTH Fed and Rafa, who both have charitable foundations. You can look at a guy like Bill Gates who has tons of money and does a lot of good work, but for sure, he's not going hungry and he's flying in on his own private jet.

Whatever way you slice it, whether or not Rafa is given a $500K watch, that money is not going to be directed to help the needy. For sure, a measly $500K isn't going to solve the world's problems. So your point is pretty moot.

It not matter if 500k is drop in bucket to Nadal or not, it is far beyond what is necessary, and is selfish. Anyone defending someone wearing 500k watch to play tennis is unbelievable. I have no problem with person having nice things if they earn them, Roger watch is 25k not 500k, 25k to me is acceptable amount for rich person, 500k is shameful for anyone in world for watch, I would not wear 500k watch if given to me, and I am not rich.

OrangeOne
04-05-2010, 01:34 PM
It not matter if 500k is drop in bucket to Nadal or not, it is far beyond what is necessary, and is selfish. Anyone defending someone wearing 500k watch to play tennis is unbelievable. I have no problem with person having nice things if they earn them, Roger watch is 25k not 500k, 25k to me is acceptable amount for rich person, 500k is shameful for anyone in world for watch, I would not wear 500k watch if given to me, and I am not rich.

Your logic is so bizarrely flawed it's just odd.

I have a perfectly good watch that I use as a backup that cost me $5.

Which means federer's 'acceptable' (to you) watch is 5000 times too expensive for something that will do the job. Nadal's watch, on the other hand, is 100,000 times too expensive for something that will do the job.

Is there any morality in having a watch that is 'only' 5000 times too expensive? Of course there's not. They are both ridiculous prices. Hell, Federer uses a private plane... another ridiculous excess, but something that makes it easier to do his job of winning tennis tournaments and entertaining people.

I like watching them both - and hopefully both players become rather like Bill Gates later in life, giving away and convincing others to give too...

CMM
04-05-2010, 01:35 PM
It is Ok to think that, Federer love you anyways.

Peace,Love,Federer


You are welcome my friend, may Federer bless your soul

Peace,love,Federer
http://i44.tinypic.com/5vq5w2.jpg

Federiffic
04-05-2010, 01:35 PM
Don't backpedal now, you clearly were claiming Federer was somehow superior (you posted photos of him doing charitable work), you also claimed Nadal bought the watch. Of course the 500k watch doesn't cost that in materials anyways....

Both of them are highly paid, that's economics for you. Be thankful they choose to use some of the money for good.

There is no backpedal, Federer is better for charity than Nadal, there is no doubt about it.

Who had idea of Hit for Haiti?

Federiffic
04-05-2010, 01:43 PM
http://i44.tinypic.com/5vq5w2.jpg

Why you put picture of man holding towel?
I don't understand? Why are you angry, it is not my fault Nadal wear 500k watch to make look selfish.

JRstriker12
04-05-2010, 01:43 PM
It not matter if 500k is drop in bucket to Nadal or not, it is far beyond what is necessary, and is selfish. Anyone defending someone wearing 500k watch to play tennis is unbelievable. I have no problem with person having nice things if they earn them, Roger watch is 25k not 500k, 25k to me is acceptable amount for rich person, 500k is shameful for anyone in world for watch, I would not wear 500k watch if given to me, and I am not rich.

Read-read my post. $500K is a drop in the bucket to BOTH FED AND Rafa. Both those guys could buy you a million times over.

If you don't think that Fed might have a a $Million+ dollar watch in his house somewhere your really are naive.

In case you haven't noticed, Mr. Fed has very expensive taste in clothes - that million dollar watch is probably sitting next to a few million in Gucci and Prada and clothes so expensive and exclusive you haven't heard of them.

It's the exact same for Rafa.

It's just that Rolex hasn't told you that the watch we gave Fed cost X amount.

You're going to have a hard time convincing people of your righteous cause if you say $25K is okay for a watch, but $500K isn't. Both are pretty obscene prices for a watch.

But if you're being all moral here, if you earn millions of dollars, and give away millions through your charity, what gives you the right to say $X is too much but $X is okay. You earned it right?

So if you are going to condemn either player, condemn them all for making millions for playing a game. Everything else is just moralizing and splitting hairs.

CMM
04-05-2010, 01:56 PM
Why are you angry, it is not my fault Nadal wear 500k watch to make look selfish.

Actually, Nadal deserves that watch and much more. In fact, I think the watch is not valuable enough for his precious wrist. And I'm not angry. :)

Federiffic
04-05-2010, 01:59 PM
Read-read my post. $500K is a drop in the bucket to BOTH FED AND Rafa. Both those guys could buy you a million times over.

If you don't think that Fed might have a a $Million+ dollar watch in his house somewhere your really are naive.

In case you haven't noticed, Mr. Fed has very expensive taste in clothes - that million dollar watch is probably sitting next to a few million in Gucci and Prada and clothes so expensive and exclusive you haven't heard of them.

It's the exact same for Rafa.

It's just that Rolex hasn't told you that the watch we gave Fed cost X amount.

You're going to have a hard time convincing people of your righteous cause if you say $25K is okay for a watch, but $500K isn't. Both are pretty obscene prices for a watch.

But if you're being all moral here, if you earn millions of dollars, and give away millions through your charity, what gives you the right to say $X is too much but $X is okay. You earned it right?

So if you are going to condemn either player, condemn them all for making millions for playing a game. Everything else is just moralizing and splitting hairs.

No, Federer usually just wear jeans, nike t-shirt and nike sport shoe when you see him out, he not have all this Gucci, and Prada you think, maybe he buy that for Mirka but he not care so much for it himself. He is not selfish man, yes rich man but not selfish.
You should read story I post about Federer in Ethiopia, he talks about how he is raising his girls to see that there is a lot of misfortune in world, he is good man, I know he has no 1 million watch like you think.

TheTruth
04-05-2010, 02:06 PM
I disagree. Because of a watch contract (albeit an expensive one!) and his dynamic with Shakira he's suddenly not focused? I don't think so. Neither of these things is bad for him imo.

I agree. All the pros (the great ones) endorse products and do other things. They're supposed to.

BobFL
04-05-2010, 03:08 PM
Shakira can only help him to be more focused!!! What is wrong with some of you guys? ;)

Atherton2003
04-05-2010, 03:20 PM
Well, I had read that Rafa lost a Timex up his butt and had been trying for years to locate it with no success - so now, he'd like a more expensive watch instead.

NamRanger
04-05-2010, 04:24 PM
Both guys are rich and both guys like to spend money. What's the big deal here?

samprasvsfederer123
04-05-2010, 04:33 PM
end this thread already, so much talk about a watch, i thought itd be over

pound cat
04-05-2010, 05:10 PM
Well, it's certainly a beautiful sports watch

http://ispotted.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/rafael-nadal-richard-mille-rm027-tourbillon-2-rafael-nadal-x-richard-mille-rm027-tourbillon.jpeg?w=558&h=707

Can I get it on e - ba( )? on a Buy Now?

JRstriker12
04-05-2010, 09:24 PM
No, Federer usually just wear jeans, nike t-shirt and nike sport shoe when you see him out, he not have all this Gucci, and Prada you think, maybe he buy that for Mirka but he not care so much for it himself. He is not selfish man, yes rich man but not selfish.
You should read story I post about Federer in Ethiopia, he talks about how he is raising his girls to see that there is a lot of misfortune in world, he is good man, I know he has no 1 million watch like you think.

Okay - you really are a naive Fed-tard:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601079&sid=aVSOvtjMbIwU&refer=home
This year, Federer has donned a Prada-inspired, Nike- designed cream blazer for matches at Wimbledon. He switched to a black one with a shiny Federer crest at the U.S. Open.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/article734499.ece
It is the previous day, and Federer is waiting for me inside the foyer of his five-star hotel. He is an impressive figure in the flesh – athletic and instantly recognisable, well dressed in casual blue trousers and beige shoes, both by Prada, and a fitted white T-shirt by Christian Dior. His arms are strong and sinewy, with bulging veins, especially his right-hand tennis arm, as though carved from oak; his eyes, alert and watchful, crowned by straight low-set eyebrows, which give his face a permanent look of concentration.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/article734499.ece?token=null&offset=12&page=2
Mirka also makes a fine shopping companion, it turns out. Before meeting her, Federer could not care less about fashion. Now his favourite labels are Prada and Gucci and he has become a self-confessed fashion junkie. He raves about the womenswear at Alexander McQueen, and mentions a special basement outlet in Milan where he shops. “I almost met the designers Miuccia Prada and Giorgio Armani once,” he says, in the same exalted tones a teenager might use when talking about a pop star. Shopping has also become a way for him and Mirka to escape the daily hotel-and-courts routine, one of the few non-tennis-related activities they can enjoy together while on the road.

http://www.goroger.net/interview/2006/zdf060500.html
INTERVIEWER - Who's your favourite designer?
ROGER FEDERER - Prada

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=ahx4YMUlqdAo&refer=europe-redirectoldpage
Prada suits have replaced sweatsuits for Roger Federer, the world's top-ranked tennis player who is trying to spiff up his image and get a bigger piece of international sports sponsorships.

Federer, going for his seventh Grand Slam title at the Australian Open this week, in the past year has cut his hair, acquired a taste for Prada's jackets and slacks and hired International Management Group, the agency that represents golfer Tiger Woods, in a bid to lure endorsements.


on and on and on and on.......

Neither Fed or Roger is a saint. They are both richer than you can imagine. Drop the Fed-**** act...

dmt
04-05-2010, 09:26 PM
Okay - you really are a naive Fed-tard:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601079&sid=aVSOvtjMbIwU&refer=home
This year, Federer has donned a Prada-inspired, Nike- designed cream blazer for matches at Wimbledon. He switched to a black one with a shiny Federer crest at the U.S. Open.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/article734499.ece
It is the previous day, and Federer is waiting for me inside the foyer of his five-star hotel. He is an impressive figure in the flesh – athletic and instantly recognisable, well dressed in casual blue trousers and beige shoes, both by Prada, and a fitted white T-shirt by Christian Dior. His arms are strong and sinewy, with bulging veins, especially his right-hand tennis arm, as though carved from oak; his eyes, alert and watchful, crowned by straight low-set eyebrows, which give his face a permanent look of concentration.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/article734499.ece?token=null&offset=12&page=2
Mirka also makes a fine shopping companion, it turns out. Before meeting her, Federer could not care less about fashion. Now his favourite labels are Prada and Gucci and he has become a self-confessed fashion junkie. He raves about the womenswear at Alexander McQueen, and mentions a special basement outlet in Milan where he shops. “I almost met the designers Miuccia Prada and Giorgio Armani once,” he says, in the same exalted tones a teenager might use when talking about a pop star. Shopping has also become a way for him and Mirka to escape the daily hotel-and-courts routine, one of the few non-tennis-related activities they can enjoy together while on the road.

http://www.goroger.net/interview/2006/zdf060500.html
INTERVIEWER - Who's your favourite designer?
ROGER FEDERER - Prada

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=ahx4YMUlqdAo&refer=europe-redirectoldpage
Prada suits have replaced sweatsuits for Roger Federer, the world's top-ranked tennis player who is trying to spiff up his image and get a bigger piece of international sports sponsorships.

Federer, going for his seventh Grand Slam title at the Australian Open this week, in the past year has cut his hair, acquired a taste for Prada's jackets and slacks and hired International Management Group, the agency that represents golfer Tiger Woods, in a bid to lure endorsements.


on and on and on and on.......

Neither Fed or Roger is a saint. They are both richer than you can imagine. Drop the Fed-**** act...

excellent post.

TheTruth
04-05-2010, 10:19 PM
They gotta lotta money. Gotta spend it on something. And rightfully some of it should go on them without a bunch of bored webheads trying to determine how they should spend it.

BTW, Good research.

rommil
04-05-2010, 10:51 PM
If this watch can help Nadal manage his schedule wisely, he direly needs it.

Dilettante
04-05-2010, 11:05 PM
Roger's Rolex watch is only 25k, that is all rich man or president needs, 500k is too much and
I don't see how anyone can wear with good thought in mind.

You're almost as great as Shureshs.

Or even greater.

Federiffic
04-06-2010, 12:37 AM
Okay - you really are a naive Fed-tard:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601079&sid=aVSOvtjMbIwU&refer=home
This year, Federer has donned a Prada-inspired, Nike- designed cream blazer for matches at Wimbledon. He switched to a black one with a shiny Federer crest at the U.S. Open.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/article734499.ece
It is the previous day, and Federer is waiting for me inside the foyer of his five-star hotel. He is an impressive figure in the flesh – athletic and instantly recognisable, well dressed in casual blue trousers and beige shoes, both by Prada, and a fitted white T-shirt by Christian Dior. His arms are strong and sinewy, with bulging veins, especially his right-hand tennis arm, as though carved from oak; his eyes, alert and watchful, crowned by straight low-set eyebrows, which give his face a permanent look of concentration.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/article734499.ece?token=null&offset=12&page=2
Mirka also makes a fine shopping companion, it turns out. Before meeting her, Federer could not care less about fashion. Now his favourite labels are Prada and Gucci and he has become a self-confessed fashion junkie. He raves about the womenswear at Alexander McQueen, and mentions a special basement outlet in Milan where he shops. “I almost met the designers Miuccia Prada and Giorgio Armani once,” he says, in the same exalted tones a teenager might use when talking about a pop star. Shopping has also become a way for him and Mirka to escape the daily hotel-and-courts routine, one of the few non-tennis-related activities they can enjoy together while on the road.

http://www.goroger.net/interview/2006/zdf060500.html
INTERVIEWER - Who's your favourite designer?
ROGER FEDERER - Prada

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=ahx4YMUlqdAo&refer=europe-redirectoldpage
Prada suits have replaced sweatsuits for Roger Federer, the world's top-ranked tennis player who is trying to spiff up his image and get a bigger piece of international sports sponsorships.

Federer, going for his seventh Grand Slam title at the Australian Open this week, in the past year has cut his hair, acquired a taste for Prada's jackets and slacks and hired International Management Group, the agency that represents golfer Tiger Woods, in a bid to lure endorsements.


on and on and on and on.......

Neither Fed or Roger is a saint. They are both richer than you can imagine. Drop the Fed-**** act...

NO, everything you post here is business or advertisement related of fashion, of course they will say he wear that, it is basically for commercial of product. Almost all you post there is link from business websites.

You are one naive not me, let me ask you what you think Roger wear right now at home? You think he is right now wearing Gucci pants, Prada jacket and gold crown on head while he change babies diapers? You not know truth, he is not wearing those clothes unless he go to meet president or is winning award on TV, where he is forced to wear nice clothes.

A man wear 25k watch is OK if he is president or rich man like Federer or Nadal, is not in excess too much, there are men not even rich who have Rolex watch.

It is shame you not understand that a man wearing 500K watch to play tennis, in time when world is in bad finance, and much suffering across planet may not be nice thing to do. If you not understand this, you disappoint me.

Why you want to make insult on me with bad names, and picture of man with towel, I do nothing mean to you , I just give my idea and I am sure it would be shared by majority of world, A man wearing 500k watch to play tennis is dumb
That is all I say on this.

Dilettante
04-06-2010, 12:53 AM
A man wear 25k watch is OK if he is president or rich man like Federer or Nadal, is not in excess too much, there are men not even rich who have Rolex watch.

It is shame you not understand that a man wearing 500K watch to play tennis, in time when world is in bad finance, and much suffering across planet may not be nice thing to do. If you not understand this, you disappoint me.

What I don't understand is why 500k is bad but 25k for a watch is perfectly OK.

Do you have a price reference table or something that I can use to judge the morality of other people's purchases?

Something like:

Icecream........3 euros..... we're OK
Icecream........9 euros..... not very Christian of you
Icecream.......18 euros.... give your money to the poor you greedy b@s****!!!!

CMM
04-06-2010, 01:20 AM
let me ask you what you think Roger wear right now at home?

http://i40.tinypic.com/9uazyg.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/s5l34m.jpg

JRstriker12
04-06-2010, 06:22 AM
NO, everything you post here is business or advertisement related of fashion, of course they will say he wear that, it is basically for commercial of product. Almost all you post there is link from business websites.

You are one naive not me, let me ask you what you think Roger wear right now at home? You think he is right now wearing Gucci pants, Prada jacket and gold crown on head while he change babies diapers? You not know truth, he is not wearing those clothes unless he go to meet president or is winning award on TV, where he is forced to wear nice clothes.

A man wear 25k watch is OK if he is president or rich man like Federer or Nadal, is not in excess too much, there are men not even rich who have Rolex watch.

It is shame you not understand that a man wearing 500K watch to play tennis, in time when world is in bad finance, and much suffering across planet may not be nice thing to do. If you not understand this, you disappoint me.

Why you want to make insult on me with bad names, and picture of man with towel, I do nothing mean to you , I just give my idea and I am sure it would be shared by majority of world, A man wearing 500k watch to play tennis is dumb
That is all I say on this.

Oh, so it's only a business advetisement related to fashion??? Nothing like the business advertisement related to high luxury fashion like Rafa's watch? Oh noes Fed would never do that....

I can tell you what Fed is not wearing at home, he's sure as heck not wearing wal-mart jeans and he's not driving a Kia (inside joke for you Rafa fans).

Also check the post - the picture of the man with a towel wasn't from me.

All I'm saying is that BOTH Fed and Rafa have alot of money. Neither are better than the other in regards to their spending on luxury items. Also, neither of these tennis players are going to save the world regardless of the price their watch. It's kind of sad that you don't understand this.

Like I said before, if you condemn Rafa, also condemn Fed. Neither of these guys are going to give up their multi-million dollar lifestyle to save the poor.

JRstriker12
04-06-2010, 06:23 AM
http://i40.tinypic.com/9uazyg.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/s5l34m.jpg

LOL!!!! (10 char)

dropshot winner
04-06-2010, 06:35 AM
What I don't understand is why 500k is bad but 25k for a watch is perfectly OK.

Do you have a price reference table or something that I can use to judge the morality of other people's purchases?

Something like:

Icecream........3 euros..... we're OK
Icecream........9 euros..... not very Christian of you
Icecream.......18 euros.... give your money to the poor you greedy b@s****!!!!

I'd say 25K is within (the upper) range of a very high quality watch. 500K is beyond anything that can be justified by value of the used materials and involved work (esp. in this case).

I don't know how it's outside of Switzerland, but here I know many family who have expensive watches (also but not only Rolex) that are given from generation to generation, in most cases from Father to Son.

For something that spans multiple generations 25K is not that expensive.
Some people buy a 3000$ television every 3-4 years, others spend 200-300K a decade for cars and so on.

Now all of that is off-topic and not really about Nadal, but I can see the point of distinguishing between a 25K and 525K watch.

Dilettante
04-06-2010, 07:23 AM
I'd say 25K is within (the upper) range of a very high quality watch. (...)
I can see the point of distinguishing between a 25K and 525K watch.

I don't.

Any new watch costing more than 200-300 euros is beyond my understanding. But that's just me. I see what time is it on the mobile phone so...

dropshot winner
04-06-2010, 08:33 AM
I don't.

Any new watch costing more than 200-300 euros is beyond my understanding. But that's just me. I see what time is it on the mobile phone so...
I haven't worn a watch in 10 years either (and that one was below 100).

Point remains that pretty much every single person living a western middleclass-lifestyle is wasting a few 100K during his life for useless and shortlived things, producing a few dozen tons of waste in the process.

I don't see any problem if anyone decides to use his money for something lasting decades, even if it costs a few K.

ronalditop
04-06-2010, 08:33 AM
http://i40.tinypic.com/9uazyg.jpg


Photoshop fail.

CMM
04-06-2010, 08:41 AM
Photoshop fail.

I didn't use photoshop. That's why it doesn't look very good.

ronalditop
04-06-2010, 08:44 AM
I didn't use photoshop. That's why it doesn't look very good.

Ok. BTW, I just noticed the 16 on the hat. Very funny :lol:

Dilettante
04-06-2010, 09:02 AM
I haven't worn a watch in 10 years either (and that one was below 100).

Point remains that pretty much every single person living a western middleclass-lifestyle is wasting a few 100K during his life for useless and shortlived things, producing a few dozen tons of waste in the process.

I don't see any problem if anyone decides to use his money for something lasting decades, even if it costs a few K.

Wow, a Swiss without a watch, that goes beyond all my stereotypes (I'm no flamenco bullfighter either).

I see your point, what I was saying to the other guy is: if someone has money enough to wear a 25k watch that's OK with me, but I don't see the difference of someone having money enough to wear a 500k watch instead of 25k.

I mean, both watches are far away of my range of comprehension, so I didn't see what the difference is really in terms of ethics or morality. But the guy said: "25k is morally OK, but 500k is too much".

My whole point is: if someone with a new 500k watch "should" give money to charity, someone with a new 25k watch "should" give too. Both have obviously more money than they need, so why point to one and not to the other. Point to both, or point to none of them. They're the same to me.

dropshot winner
04-06-2010, 09:28 AM
Wow, a Swiss without a watch, that goes beyond all my stereotypes (I'm no flamenco bullfighter either).

I see your point, what I was saying to the other guy is: if someone has money enough to wear a 25k watch that's OK with me, but I don't see the difference of someone having money enough to wear a 500k watch instead of 25k.

I mean, both watches are far away of my range of comprehension, so I didn't see what the difference is really in terms of ethics or morality. But the guy said: "25k is morally OK, but 500k is too much".

My whole point is: if someone with a new 500k watch "should" give money to charity, someone with a new 25k watch "should" give too. Both have obviously more money than they need, so why point to one and not to the other. Point to both, or point to none of them. They're the same to me.
Sorry to kill the clichι, if it helps you, I do eat chocolate and cheese :).

For me there's a huge difference between 25K and 525K.

What do you get these days for 25K?
A expensive TV with some good speakers, fancy clothes and a nice motorcycle. All of which is done and dusted within 10, maybe 20 years max.
If you buy mostly electronics (Camcorder, TV, PS3 + games, Home-Cinema, cellphones) it takes only a few years until those 25K have a worth of about 0.1K.

525K gets you a house in a place as expensive as Switzerland, a very different league if you ask me.

Everyone who can afford to give something to charity (which I believe are about 95% of all people in the western world) should do so, no matter if their watch costs 0.02$ or 1 Million $.

I do understand people that appreciate quality and handcraft of a product, that's why I'm not surprised that some people (even if they are not multi-millionaires) are willing to spend 25K on a Rolex.
It's timeless and can be passed on to the next generation, it's the counterpart of our throwaway society.

A 500K watch usually isn't different internally to a 25K watch, it isn't really about being handmade either, it's about being able to show-off.

It a bit like with a wodden sailboat and a 130m Megayacht.

OrangeOne
04-06-2010, 02:41 PM
Roger watch is 25k not 500k, 25k to me is acceptable amount for rich person, 500k is shameful for anyone in world for watch, I would not wear 500k watch if given to me, and I am not rich.

For me there's a huge difference between 25K and 525K.

So now we have two people making a value proposition for the 25k, but against the 500k! I can't believe it. It's a strange, strange world we live in. They're both ludicrous. Anyone justifying one and not the other is living in a fantasy world. Anyone minimising 25k needs to think of it in this context (from 2005/2008 studies):
Almost half the world — over three billion people — live on less than $2.50 a day.
At least 80% of humanity lives on less than $10 a day.Right, want to point out the difference now? Please don't. I don't begrudge either of these guys their watches and their sponsorship deals - good luck to them. They're good ambassadors for our sport, and they do good for others, it's just economics and the way the sport works. But please, please don't try and justify either watch, because you can't.

http://www.globalissues.org/article/26/poverty-facts-and-stats

ninman
04-06-2010, 03:13 PM
So now we have two people making a value proposition for the 25k, but against the 500k! I can't believe it. It's a strange, strange world we live in. They're both ludicrous. Anyone justifying one and not the other is living in a fantasy world. Anyone minimising 25k needs to think of it in this context (from 2005/2008 studies):
Almost half the world — over three billion people — live on less than $2.50 a day.
At least 80% of humanity lives on less than $10 a day.Right, want to point out the difference now? Please don't. I don't begrudge either of these guys their watches and their sponsorship deals - good luck to them. They're good ambassadors for our sport, and they do good for others, it's just economics and the way the sport works. But please, please don't try and justify either watch, because you can't.

http://www.globalissues.org/article/26/poverty-facts-and-stats

its like someone saying its ok to buy a ferrari but not a bugatti veyron.

OrangeOne
04-06-2010, 03:19 PM
its like someone saying its ok to buy a ferrari but not a bugatti veyron.

Correct. Another good analogy....

World Beater
04-07-2010, 12:35 AM
Correct. Another good analogy....

its all relative.

the guy who can afford the 525k watch is crying foul and saying what about the guy who can afford 1M watch. "but...but...525 k is okay. NOT 1M"

dropshot winner
04-07-2010, 12:48 AM
So now we have two people making a value proposition for the 25k, but against the 500k! I can't believe it. It's a strange, strange world we live in. They're both ludicrous. Anyone justifying one and not the other is living in a fantasy world. Anyone minimising 25k needs to think of it in this context (from 2005/2008 studies):
Almost half the world — over three billion people — live on less than $2.50 a day.
At least 80% of humanity lives on less than $10 a day.Right, want to point out the difference now? Please don't. I don't begrudge either of these guys their watches and their sponsorship deals - good luck to them. They're good ambassadors for our sport, and they do good for others, it's just economics and the way the sport works. But please, please don't try and justify either watch, because you can't.

http://www.globalissues.org/article/26/poverty-facts-and-stats

No need to fake outrage. It's a ludicrous western world we live in.

People buy dozens pair of shoes for hundres of dollars, they buy clothes for as much and don't even wear some of them, they spend 10s of 1000 for a home-cinema, they have 2-3 cars eventhough they could probably arrange to live with one, they have big houses, nice bikes that are used only a few days every year, a boat, they have jewelry, they spend 1000s in vacations in coutnries where people are poor, they spend many dollars for partying at the weekends which they sometimes barely remember the next day, they have 6-10 racquets eventhough you can easily get along with two, some buy vastly overpriced goods like wine or single malt whiskys for 100-200$ a bottle.

I could go on and on.

Almost all of us are spending way to much money for stuff we don't need while not donating anywhere near as much as we can afford.

Who cares if it's a bike, an expensive lifestyle for a year, or a nice watch that costs 25K?

Federiffic
04-07-2010, 10:23 AM
Oh, so it's only a business advetisement related to fashion??? Nothing like the business advertisement related to high luxury fashion like Rafa's watch? Oh noes Fed would never do that....

I can tell you what Fed is not wearing at home, he's sure as heck not wearing wal-mart jeans and he's not driving a Kia (inside joke for you Rafa fans).



You see here, Roger not wear these fancy clothes like you think.
http://i44.tinypic.com/2vaflv6.jpg

CMM
04-07-2010, 10:48 AM
http://i42.tinypic.com/f9fww6.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/15gt5ya.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/kcl45j.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/k1s3n8.jpg

JRstriker12
04-07-2010, 10:52 AM
Pfttt... I can play that game:

http://blogs.timeslive.co.za/thefrockreport/files/2008/10/20070824federer.jpg

http://newshopper.sulekha.com/ptiimages/Original700/roger-federer.jpg

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media-cdn/jj1/headlines/2009/07/roger-federer-twin-girls.jpg

http://fashionministry.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/travel-birkin-on-men-gq-roger-federer.jpg

JRstriker12
04-07-2010, 10:53 AM
Let's not even talk about these.....

http://www.highsnobiety.com/fileadmin/files/Blogs/New_Dandyism/roger-federer-1.jpg

http://cheapclothesrule.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/federer-nike-jacket.jpg

Oh and here's dress down Rafa:

http://www.insidesocal.com/outinhollywood/.rafa.jpg

LOL! You lose.

Actually, this game is kind of fun. We should start a whole Fed vs. Rafa fashion thread. LOL!!!

Six.One.Tour.90FAN
04-07-2010, 10:56 AM
I'd laugh if the watch was swiss

:)

rommil
04-07-2010, 10:58 AM
I'd laugh if the watch was swiss

:)

Of course..........if it were Spanish it would be late all the time......

reversef
04-07-2010, 11:03 AM
I have a good laugh reading this thread. Some "serious" posts are just hilarous. :)

Federiffic
04-07-2010, 11:07 AM
Pfttt... I can play that game:

No,No,No, all your picture are wrong, all you post are advertisement picture, we talk about what he wear when not in commercial, when he is at home.

He wear jeans and plain T- shirt not fancy clothes like you think.

http://stupidcelebrities.net/wp-content/roger-federer-twins-500.jpg

JRstriker12
04-07-2010, 11:10 AM
You see here, Roger not wear these fancy clothes like you think.
http://i44.tinypic.com/2vaflv6.jpg

LOL! What you don't know are those are probably $500 jeans and a Armani exchange t-shirt.

Get off it man.

Both those guys wear expensive clothes, drive expensive cars, and live a multi-million dollar lifestyle.

Neither Rafa or Fed are some average goobers wearing $15 wrangler jeans and Hanes t-shirts.

Federiffic
04-07-2010, 11:13 AM
Here you see, just jeans and plain grey t-shirt, this is what he chose to wear, when no one force him.

http://gulfnews.com/polopoly_fs/roger-federer-1.577137!image/1897015544.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_475/1897015544.jpg

CMM
04-07-2010, 11:18 AM
Here you see, just jeans and plain grey t-shirt, this is what he chose to wear, when no one force him.


So what? Nadal wears the same things in his free time.

JRstriker12
04-07-2010, 11:18 AM
No,No,No, all your picture are wrong, all you post are advertisement picture, we talk about what he wear when not in commercial, when he is at home.

He wear jeans and plain T- shirt not fancy clothes like you think.

http://stupidcelebrities.net/wp-content/roger-federer-twins-500.jpg

And a picture of Rafa dressed up to go out on the town is while WALKING DOWN THE STREET? is what he wears at HOME???

LOL!

CMM
04-07-2010, 11:20 AM
And a picture of Rafa dressed up to go out on the town is while WALKING DOWN THE STREET? is what he wears at HOME???

LOL!

That's actually a picture of Nadal going to a prize giving ceremony in Madrid.

http://i43.tinypic.com/o0qmwp.jpg

Federiffic
04-07-2010, 11:23 AM
So what? Nadal wears the same things in his free time.

Yes, but with 500k watch.

CMM
04-07-2010, 11:25 AM
Yes, but with 500k watch.

Just 500k? Rafa deserves more.

egn
04-07-2010, 11:26 AM
Nadal's watch cost more than my house.

JRstriker12
04-07-2010, 11:32 AM
Yes, but with 500k watch.

No he only plays with the $500K watch.

The $3 million watch with human-baby skin watch band is what Rafa wears at home. LOL!!! :twisted:

Federiffic
04-07-2010, 11:33 AM
Just 500k? Rafa deserves more.
http://i44.tinypic.com/5vq5w2.jpg

CMM
04-07-2010, 11:38 AM
http://i44.tinypic.com/5vq5w2.jpg
That picture goes together with these two posts
It is Ok to think that, Federer love you anyways.

Peace,Love,Federer


You are welcome my friend, may Federer bless your soul

Peace,love,Federer

Federiffic
04-07-2010, 11:40 AM
Here is what Nadal will be wearing if he not win a tournament soon.

http://www.highsnobiety.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/timex-spring-2009-collection-1.jpg

dragon2o00
04-07-2010, 11:42 AM
all i see is a lot of bitterness on both ends about this. who cares what they do or what watches they get to wear? i'd do it if i were in their shoes too. get paid to wear that nice of a watch? where do i sign up? good for them, i say. who's busting the bryan brothers' chops for wearing watches while they play?

CMM
04-07-2010, 11:43 AM
Here is what Nadal will be wearing if he not win a tournament soon.

It is ok. Nadal loves you anyway.
Peace,love,Nadal.

Nextman916
04-07-2010, 11:53 AM
You people have to understand understated IS the new fashion nowadays. Many would argue that this has always been the best, to which I would agree. But to dress down is to dress nice now because the trend of overdressing fashion is mainstream right now.

Also Federer NEVER deserved a spot on the best dressed list prior, he is poorly dressed by Mirka/stylist. Their sense of style is such an average couture choice of tons of Europeans that get wealthy. All the most general luxury brands...and Armani exchange...pfft thats the worst excuse for marketing 'high fashion' to young people. The price-quality ratio is absolutely terrible.

JRstriker12
04-07-2010, 11:57 AM
LOL! This is fun.

What Mirka will have Fed wearing at home if he doesn't start winning tournaments.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41onGXPmwiL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Federiffic
04-07-2010, 12:00 PM
LOL! This is fun.

What Mirka will have Fed wearing at home if he doesn't start winning tournaments.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41onGXPmwiL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Stay on topic, that not watch

JRstriker12
04-07-2010, 12:03 PM
You people have to understand understated IS the new fashion nowadays. Many would argue that this has always been the best, to which I would agree. But to dress down is to dress nice now because the trend of overdressing fashion is mainstream right now.

Also Federer NEVER deserved a spot on the best dressed list prior, he is poorly dressed by Mirka/stylist. Their sense of style is such an average couture choice of tons of Europeans that get wealthy. All the most general luxury brands...and Armani exchange...pfft thats the worst excuse for marketing 'high fashion' to young people. The price-quality ratio is absolutely terrible.

Won't get an argument from me. Some people spend alot of money to look like they just pulled on some old jeans and a t-shirt.

Fed does try hard to promote this Fashion icon image....maybe a bit too hard. Rafa is starting to get onto the band wagon too with this watch and the move away from the sleveless shirts and capri pants.

JRstriker12
04-07-2010, 12:07 PM
Stay on topic, that not watch

Okay - since Fed is swiss - I'd guess he'd have to down grade to Swatch Watches:

http://www.swatch-shop.co.uk/FLS011%20CUTE%20FASHIONs.jpg

CMM
04-07-2010, 12:12 PM
LOL! This is fun.

What Mirka will have Fed wearing at home if he doesn't start winning tournaments.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41onGXPmwiL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

He already wore that http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=4404138&postcount=10

Federiffic
04-07-2010, 12:16 PM
He already wore that http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=4404138&postcount=10

Rafa better make sure 500k watch is waterproof, don't want to ruin it when he jetski with boyfriend.
http://i39.tinypic.com/wklkz8.jpg

FedSampras1
04-07-2010, 12:36 PM
Rafa better make sure 500k watch is waterproof, don't want to ruin it when he jetski with boyfriend.
http://i39.tinypic.com/wklkz8.jpg

:lol:
gayest pic of Nadal :shock:

volleynets
04-07-2010, 12:44 PM
Rafa better make sure 500k watch is waterproof, don't want to ruin it when he jetski with boyfriend.
http://i39.tinypic.com/wklkz8.jpg

HAHAHAAHAH

JRstriker12
04-07-2010, 12:48 PM
He already wore that http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=4404138&postcount=10

LOL! (10 char)

CMM
04-07-2010, 12:49 PM
Rafa better make sure 500k watch is waterproof, don't want to ruin it when he jetski with girlfriend.

http://i44.tinypic.com/34nnuyb.jpg

vllaznia
04-07-2010, 12:55 PM
Well he seems happier with his boyfriend :)

Bhagi Katbamna
04-07-2010, 12:56 PM
So now we have two people making a value proposition for the 25k, but against the 500k! I can't believe it. It's a strange, strange world we live in. They're both ludicrous. Anyone justifying one and not the other is living in a fantasy world. Anyone minimising 25k needs to think of it in this context (from 2005/2008 studies):
Almost half the world — over three billion people — live on less than $2.50 a day.
At least 80% of humanity lives on less than $10 a day.Right, want to point out the difference now? Please don't. I don't begrudge either of these guys their watches and their sponsorship deals - good luck to them. They're good ambassadors for our sport, and they do good for others, it's just economics and the way the sport works. But please, please don't try and justify either watch, because you can't.

http://www.globalissues.org/article/26/poverty-facts-and-stats


Years of class-envy brainwashing produces this kind of post. Without the rich, those people living on less than $10 per day wouldn't even get that. The price of any product is justified by what someone else is willing to pay for it. Someone else who thinks it isn't worth it doesn't matter.

ronalditop
04-07-2010, 12:58 PM
Well he seems happier with his boyfriend :)

LOL that's true.

valiant
04-07-2010, 01:00 PM
So you expect him to look at his watch rather than the ball.

CMM
04-07-2010, 01:05 PM
Well he seems happier with his boyfriend :)

http://i41.tinypic.com/207nuhw.jpg

OrangeOne
04-07-2010, 03:40 PM
Years of class-envy brainwashing produces this kind of post. Without the rich, those people living on less than $10 per day wouldn't even get that. The price of any product is justified by what someone else is willing to pay for it. Someone else who thinks it isn't worth it doesn't matter.

I'm not sure you read my post correctly - perhaps years of class-defending means that you see something, and fail to read the true context?

I didn't say he didn't deserve it, I also didn't examine the value proposition of the items. I was simply responding to someone trying to differentiate between a 25k watch as being 'acceptable', and a 500k as not... I was stating that BOTH items are 'excessive' in the grand scheme.

I also stated that "I don't begrudge either of these guys their watches and their sponsorship deals - good luck to them. They're good ambassadors for our sport, and they do good for others, it's just economics and the way the sport works. But please, please don't try and justify either watch, because you can't".

As for:

Without the rich, those people living on less than $10 per day wouldn't even get that

I think you meant to say that without the rich, they wouldn't need that.

Nextman916
04-07-2010, 04:44 PM
Won't get an argument from me. Some people spend alot of money to look like they just pulled on some old jeans and a t-shirt.

Fed does try hard to promote this Fashion icon image....maybe a bit too hard. Rafa is starting to get onto the band wagon too with this watch and the move away from the sleveless shirts and capri pants.

I agree that Rafa is starting to care more towards his aesthetic outlook...but its only natural when you have millions of dollars piled to start caring about your image. Lots of people say money will never change them, then give them more than they can ever imagine to spend, and slowly but surely it will.

veroniquem
04-07-2010, 05:29 PM
Rafa has already tons of sponsors. So one more one less...
Everyone wants to use his image because he is the most popular of Spanish athletes and I have a feeling he doesn't often say no.

Justdoit10
04-07-2010, 05:41 PM
Rafa better make sure 500k watch is waterproof, don't want to ruin it when he jetski with boyfriend.
http://i39.tinypic.com/wklkz8.jpg
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bhagi Katbamna
04-07-2010, 07:48 PM
I'm not sure you read my post correctly - perhaps years of class-defending means that you see something, and fail to read the true context?

I didn't say he didn't deserve it, I also didn't examine the value proposition of the items. I was simply responding to someone trying to differentiate between a 25k watch as being 'acceptable', and a 500k as not... I was stating that BOTH items are 'excessive' in the grand scheme.

I also stated that "I don't begrudge either of these guys their watches and their sponsorship deals - good luck to them. They're good ambassadors for our sport, and they do good for others, it's just economics and the way the sport works. But please, please don't try and justify either watch, because you can't".

I understood your post perfectly. I meant exactly that. You are in no position to judge what is excessive and what isn't. The only people that are in a position to judge are the buyers. If enough potential buyers judge that it is excessive, the company will not make money and close. On the other hand, it is relatively easy to sell something that is a limited edition and extremely expensive to a collector with means. The only thing that those people don't want is to go somewhere and see a peasant have the same item they have.

I think you meant to say that without the rich, they wouldn't need that.
Yes, they would much prefer not to have the rich paying them that so they could happily starve with your approval.
Without the rich that are hiring those people, they wouldn't be getting even those $10 that they get every day. Who do you think is paying them? Not the other poor people who are also earning $10 per day.

Serve_Ace
04-07-2010, 07:59 PM
That thing better do more than tell time.

OrangeOne
04-07-2010, 09:38 PM
I understood your post perfectly. I meant exactly that. You are in no position to judge what is excessive and what isn't. The only people that are in a position to judge are the buyers. If enough potential buyers judge that it is excessive, the company will not make money and close. On the other hand, it is relatively easy to sell something that is a limited edition and extremely expensive to a collector with means. The only thing that those people don't want is to go somewhere and see a peasant have the same item they have.

You clearly want to argue. Even someone buying a 25k or 500k watch would acknowledge that it is excessive, they simply know that they can afford a life of excess.

I studied ec too...

Yes, they would much prefer not to have the rich paying them that so they could happily starve with your approval.
Without the rich that are hiring those people, they wouldn't be getting even those $10 that they get every day. Who do you think is paying them? Not the other poor people who are also earning $10 per day.This discussion is circuitous, and you're talking macro-ec, and I'm talking societal & history. Have a nice day....

Nextman916
04-07-2010, 09:45 PM
You clearly want to argue. Even someone buying a 25k or 500k watch would acknowledge that it is excessive, they simply know that they can afford a life of excess.

This is your opinion my friend. I don't have anything against it, the world runs off of it, however just realize that is all it is.

OrangeOne
04-07-2010, 10:01 PM
This is your opinion my friend. I don't have anything against it, the world runs off of it, however just realize that is all it is.

Thanks, person I've never met.

If someone posted and said "This is your opinion" to every post on these boards, we'd have almost twice as many posts.

Unless people posted "this is your opinion" posts in response to such posts, as I just have. Then we'd have almost thrice as many posts.

Of course, if people posted....

Infinity.

Bhagi Katbamna
04-08-2010, 08:50 AM
You clearly want to argue. Even someone buying a 25k or 500k watch would acknowledge that it is excessive, they simply know that they can afford a life of excess.

I studied ec too...

Those watches are moving pieces of art, built by artisans. Not every buyer would agree that it is excessive.

This discussion is circuitous, and you're talking macro-ec, and I'm talking societal & history. Have a nice day....

Even in those countries, the conditions at this time are the best they've ever been for the lower classes(from a societal and historical perspective).

Nextman916
04-08-2010, 10:56 AM
Thanks, person I've never met.

If someone posted and said "This is your opinion" to every post on these boards, we'd have almost twice as many posts.

Unless people posted "this is your opinion" posts in response to such posts, as I just have. Then we'd have almost thrice as many posts.

Of course, if people posted....

Infinity.

Wow I'm not even going to waste my time to argue with you, all I'm going to say is you don't use opinion's to prove a point. I don't need to go into any detail, simple as that.

OrangeOne
04-08-2010, 11:26 AM
Wow I'm not even going to waste my time to argue with you, all I'm going to say is you don't use opinion's to prove a point. I don't need to go into any detail, simple as that.

I love it when people post like this. "I'm not going to waste my time....but I will throw in my argument....and then I'll finish with a flourish of arrogance".

For the record, I didn't say that by posting such a thing they'd be right, you missed my point. I don't need to go into any detail though, simple as that.

Oh, and I'd very rarely point it out, but hey, if you're going to pose as an intellectual elitist (perhaps with little time), probably a good idea to skip the apostrophe in a plural.

dropshot winner
04-08-2010, 11:34 AM
OrangeOne, did you miss my reply to your post a few pages back or did you chose not to respond?

OrangeOne
04-08-2010, 11:43 AM
OrangeOne, did you miss my reply to your post a few pages back or did you chose not to respond?

I do remember starting to reply to it, and then I was distracted.

In summary - without completely agreeing with it I do know where you're coming from.

dropshot winner
04-08-2010, 12:06 PM
I do remember starting to reply to it, and then I was distracted.

In summary - without completely agreeing with it I do know where you're coming from.

Fair enough.
I just don't see a big difference between a TV, a motorcycle and a rolex. Sure a rolex is many times as expensive as other watches, but in the end you don't need a motorcycle, fancy shoes and so on either. It's all money that could be used to do something good but is spend for personal pleasure.

CMM
04-11-2010, 09:24 AM
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/4168/72316893.jpg
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7316/34101177.jpg
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/3934/13563182.jpg

dmt
04-11-2010, 09:31 AM
are those recent pics cmm?

CMM
04-11-2010, 09:36 AM
are those recent pics cmm?

Today's practice.

rovex
04-11-2010, 09:57 AM
No way would Nike allow him to wear that instead of a wristband. I guess we have to just wait and see.

dmt
04-11-2010, 10:16 PM
Today's practice.

thanks cmm