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Murray Mound
04-04-2010, 11:47 AM
Wow!!! Roddick amd stefanki have really improved his volleys and slice backhand!

Not only did he beat Nadal serving amd volleying , but he is the best player of 2010.

If he continues this way Im chainging my name to Roddick Road!!

Go Andy !! Wow!!!

inkpw2
04-04-2010, 11:49 AM
uhhh roddick sucks? such a boring final he has no aggressive plays. as as example, his first match point, 34 strokes, waiting for berdych to make a mistake, and he made nothing happen. im glad he won it though, better than berdych holding up that trophy.

OKUSA
04-04-2010, 11:55 AM
Roddick played that match to win, not to entertain a bunch of so called tennis fans. Stop complaining

decades
04-04-2010, 11:56 AM
roddick benefited from one of the best draws in recent Masters 1000 history...

samprasvsfederer123
04-04-2010, 11:57 AM
uhhh roddick sucks? such a boring final he has no aggressive plays. as as example, his first match point, 34 strokes, waiting for berdych to make a mistake, and he made nothing happen. im glad he won it though, better than berdych holding up that trophy.

roddick does not suck, he is a former worlds number 1, won the us open, reached the finals again in 2006, reached the 2003 wimby semi's, 2004, 2005, 2009, finals, 4 australian open semifinals 2 which were against federer, several masters shields lost to federer, and masters cups lost to federer, but wait who hasnt lost to federer other than nadal, like that in federer's prime 2004- 2007

he reached the indian wells masters final, won miami, brisbane,

gtfo troll

Murray Mound
04-04-2010, 11:57 AM
No way.

You wouldn't know what to do with a slice backhand or a chip of it hit you in the face.

He was hitting those slices and change ups. A thing of beauty. Wish Murray did more of it .

But the net rushing was incredible. Slice and chaaaaaarge!!

Roddick can bring back serve and volley.

But hi serve and volleying was aweweeeesome.!

forzamilan90
04-04-2010, 11:58 AM
i wouldn't call him the best player of 2010 but ok

Murray Mound
04-04-2010, 11:59 AM
i wouldn't call him the best player of 2010 but ok

CBS did. It's actually a fact...he has won more than anyone else.

davey25
04-04-2010, 12:02 PM
CBS did. It's actually a fact...he has won more than anyone else.

I would call Federer the best player of 2010 so far. Masters tank jobs and light schedule so far in 2010 aside a slam beats all else. Roddick maybe 2nd best player of the year so far.

NamRanger
04-04-2010, 12:12 PM
I would call Federer the best player of 2010 so far. Masters tank jobs and light schedule so far in 2010 aside a slam beats all else. Roddick maybe 2nd best player of the year so far.



LOL just maybe? By far and away the 2nd best player, and could be argued to be on par with Federer.

MotherMarjorie
04-04-2010, 12:14 PM
Ummmm, Mother Marjorie thinks we're approaching clay court season and Andrea Roddick's results will be in serious decline....fast forward to Wimbledon boys. Just sayin'

MM

inkpw2
04-04-2010, 12:21 PM
all im saying is that he is really boring to watch thats it

inkpw2
04-04-2010, 12:22 PM
and i do know what to do a slice backhand you troll, i do play for the university of minnesota for a reason

Li Ching Yuen
04-04-2010, 12:22 PM
It's actually called Serve & Push (S&P).

It's a new breed of tennis.

namelessone
04-04-2010, 12:24 PM
LOL just maybe? By far and away the 2nd best player, and could be argued to be on par with Federer.

I think so:

Federer results:

SF at Doha
W at AO
early round exits in IW and Miami(though he did comeback after illness)

Roddick results:

W in Brisbane
QF in AO
F in SAP Open
QF in Memphis
F in IW
W in Miami.

Seems to be more consistent that Fed to me though Fed would have probably made it further in the draw had he not come back after illness.

IMO right now it should be like this for HC this year:

1-2 Fed-Roddick
3-Nadal(F-QF-SF-SF)
4-Soderling(W in rotterdam,two consecutive SF in IW and Miami)

MotherMarjorie
04-04-2010, 12:25 PM
and i do know what to do a slice backhand you troll, i do play for the university of minnesota for a reason
Minne-soh-dah.

Mother Marjorie is curious about you Canadian tennis players. Is it difficult transitioning from indoor play during the winter time to hardcourt during the spring?

MotherMarjorie
04-04-2010, 12:27 PM
It's actually called Serve & Push (S&P).

It's a new breed of tennis.
You are joking, right?

Chip, charge and volley was mainstream tennis for the first 100 years of the sport until the mindless ball-bashers began breeding.

Mother Marjorie has spoken.

fuzz nation
04-04-2010, 12:31 PM
Andy's been down a long road and I'm genuinely excited that he has evolved beyond a one trick pony, but it kills me that he's only just recently gotten good at transitioning to net and volleying well. If he had learned a more complete skill set growing up, he could have had more weapons and tactics to call upon earlier in his career.

There are other solid net players who have kept serve & volleying and all court tennis relevant over the years (including Roger and Justine), but Andy's timeline makes a great case for learning the whole game early on, not just the "surf and turf" approach to the sport that calls for not much more than a big serve and big forehand.

Pro tennis in the U.S. and elsewhere is only now getting over that malady of one dimensional baseline power that plagued things for a while - hopefully the WTA in general will be on the mend... one of these years.

With S&V as a solid option in Andy's arsenal, I think it's going to be reeeeally interesting to see just how much damage he can finally do in the next couple of years!

inkpw2
04-04-2010, 12:34 PM
Minne-soh-dah.

Mother Marjorie is curious about you Canadian tennis players. Is it difficult transitioning from indoor play during the winter time to hardcourt during the spring?



nope not at all...our outdoor season is from april to october...

Commando Tennis Shorts
04-04-2010, 12:37 PM
He played the game he needed to win today, not the game he didn't need.

When he played Nadal, he played more aggresive, because he needed to. He didn't need to today, so he didn't. And guess what? He still won

So much hatred around here. What did Roddick do? Kill your guys' puppies?

MotherMarjorie
04-04-2010, 12:37 PM
Given Andrea Roddick's big serve and poor backhand groundstrokes, I'm surprised no one has ever advised him to serve and volley more often. His results would definitely improve at the majors.

JoshDragon
04-04-2010, 12:38 PM
Wow!!! Roddick amd stefanki have really improved his volleys and slice backhand!

Not only did he beat Nadal serving amd volleying , but he is the best player of 2010.

If he continues this way Im chainging my name to Roddick Road!!

Go Andy !! Wow!!!

Then, why hasn't he won a major this year?

MotherMarjorie
04-04-2010, 12:39 PM
nope not at all...our outdoor season is from april to october...
Mother Marjorie wonders why they don't ship you fellas to Florida for the winter and allow you to study online?

MethodTennis
04-04-2010, 12:41 PM
what will roddick and larry done to his clay game this year it was vastly improved last year

MethodTennis
04-04-2010, 12:42 PM
Then, why hasn't he won a major this year?

errm we're talking about a season not slam preformance

MotherMarjorie
04-04-2010, 12:46 PM
we have 12 indoor courts. ******
Perhaps that is why the University of Minnesota-Canada isn't exactly a powerhouse in the sport of Division I tennis. In fact, until you mentioned you played for them, I didn't even know they fielded a team, and I've followed tennis for years.

Enjoy your underachievement playing in your insulated igloos up north!!!

:arrow:

LameTennisPlayer
04-04-2010, 12:46 PM
Andy's been down a long road and I'm genuinely excited that he has evolved beyond a one trick pony, but it kills me that he's only just recently gotten good at transitioning to net and volleying well. If he had learned a more complete skill set growing up, he could have had more weapons and tactics to call upon earlier in his career.

With S&V as a solid option in Andy's arsenal, I think it's going to be reeeeally interesting to see just how much damage he can finally do in the next couple of years!

roddick is naturally a defensive player once the ball is in play, due to his late growth spurt, he was always smaller than the other guys on tour earlier on, similar to hewitt's counter punching/never say die style as he was always playing older/mature players from a younger age....

inkpw2
04-04-2010, 12:55 PM
Perhaps that is why the University of Minnesota-Canada isn't exactly a powerhouse in the sport of Division I tennis. In fact, until you mentioned you played for them, I didn't even know they fielded a team, and I've followed tennis for years.

Enjoy your underachievement playing in your insulated igloos up north!!!

:arrow:

well you should go and have fun without playing for a college and getting a full ride. i just love free education and playing tennis. go back and hit with your dad or 3.0 players

inkpw2
04-04-2010, 12:58 PM
Perhaps that is why the University of Minnesota-Canada isn't exactly a powerhouse in the sport of Division I tennis. In fact, until you mentioned you played for them, I didn't even know they fielded a team, and I've followed tennis for years.

Enjoy your underachievement playing in your insulated igloos up north!!!

:arrow:

and this is weird...its 70 degrees right now! very arguable by tennis players this is the nicest temperature to play tennis in!! yeah water freezes at 32-34 degrees. why don't you go to school and learn something. oh wait i do and free too

djokovicgonzalez2010
04-04-2010, 12:59 PM
Murray Mound- the savior of the word amd

West Coast Ace
04-04-2010, 01:02 PM
I would call Federer the best player of 2010 so far. Masters tank jobs and light schedule so far in 2010 aside a slam beats all else. Roddick maybe 2nd best player of the year so far.You and I agreeing on something! Snow in So Cal tomorrow! :) Although I'm not calling Tank on anyone. The top guys don't die if they lose the 1000s - but they're trying.

inkpw2
04-04-2010, 01:03 PM
Murray Mound- the savior of the word amd

gonzalez is the best

Li Ching Yuen
04-04-2010, 01:12 PM
Serve and volley is what Stepanek and Dent do.
At times, even Tsonga.

Stop getting exciting if Roddick comes at the net at some point, he's still a baseliner, a defensive one, as well.

inkpw2
04-04-2010, 01:15 PM
Serve and volley is what Stepanek and Dent do.
At times, even Tsonga.

Stop getting exciting if Roddick comes at the net at some point, he's still a baseliner, a defensive one, as well.

that's his problem. he needs to be aggressive at the baseline. i mean his first serve is amazing and aggressive, he's gotta keep the aggressiveness pace or else how hard he serves the ball, it wouldn't matter if he's not going to take his chances and take the point.

tacou
04-04-2010, 01:34 PM
Roddick wins Miami

Murray Mound
04-04-2010, 01:47 PM
Serve and volley is what Stepanek and Dent do.
At times, even Tsonga.

Stop getting exciting if Roddick comes at the net at some point, he's still a baseliner, a defensive one, as well.

And now roddick....the new roddick that is. All the sports casters were talking about it. He won it at the net

inkpw2
04-04-2010, 02:01 PM
And now roddick....the new roddick that is. All the sports casters were talking about it. He won it at the net

if you do watch tennis, you should at least know espn commentators are full of $h!t

Kunohara
04-04-2010, 02:04 PM
I don't understand all this talk of Roddick being the savior of serve and volley. I mean, he likes to come in off a great slice, but he never really serves and follow. At least not more than a bunch of other players. Federer pretty much serves & volley more than Roddick, and he doesn't do it very often.

Murray Mound
04-04-2010, 02:25 PM
if you do watch tennis, you should at least know espn commentators are full of $h!t

Not just espn....everyone.

Did you even watch the nadal match? The guy was mad xhragimg the net.....something Federer should take note of.

Toxicmilk
04-04-2010, 03:54 PM
You are joking, right?

Chip, charge and volley was mainstream tennis for the first 100 years of the sport until the mindless ball-bashers began breeding.

Mother Marjorie has spoken.

You are joking, right?
You clearly didn't even read that dudes post.

djokovicgonzalez2010
04-04-2010, 03:57 PM
Stepanek? Haas?

pjonesy
04-04-2010, 04:46 PM
He played the game he needed to win today, not the game he didn't need.

When he played Nadal, he played more aggresive, because he needed to. He didn't need to today, so he didn't. And guess what? He still won

So much hatred around here. What did Roddick do? Kill your guys' puppies?

Good Job Commando! I agree with you 100%. I have been guilty of bashing Roddick myself, so I am not getting on my soapbox. Now people aren't satisfied that he WON, they criticize the WAY he won. Let's just settle down and put this into perspective. Roddick won a Master's Series Tournament and beat an in form Nadal in the semis. Last week he lost a final to an inspired Ljubicic at Indian Wells, who was serving out of his head. Roddick does not have the smoothest or most beautiful flowing game in the world. You can always find issues with his strokes or movement and its easy to criticize his strategy, but he is winning. Lets give him a break.

KSJ1979
04-04-2010, 05:00 PM
He played the game he needed to win today, not the game he didn't need.

When he played Nadal, he played more aggresive, because he needed to. He didn't need to today, so he didn't. And guess what? He still won

So much hatred around here. What did Roddick do? Kill your guys' puppies?

I totally agree!!

Praetorian
04-04-2010, 05:10 PM
He played the game he needed to win today, not the game he didn't need.

When he played Nadal, he played more aggresive, because he needed to. He didn't need to today, so he didn't. And guess what? He still won

So much hatred around here. What did Roddick do? Kill your guys' puppies?

Yeah man. There are some people here just full of hate. No matter what Roddick does will never be good enough, they'll always make excuses. Hell, he can go undefeated the rest of the year, and everyone will just be saying that everyone else had a bad year.. Whatevers!!

Whatever hate many of you have, and whatever excuse or comment to try and belittle what his accomplishment was... I only got one thing to say SONY-ERICCSON CHAMP! And I'm sure he's all smiles when he receives that check.

samprasvsfederer123
04-04-2010, 05:26 PM
Yeah man. There are some people here just full of hate. No matter what Roddick does will never be good enough, they'll always make excuses. Hell, he can go undefeated the rest of the year, and everyone will just be saying that everyone else had a bad year.. Whatevers!!

Whatever hate many of you have, and whatever excuse or comment to try and belittle what his accomplishment was... I only got one thing to say SONY-ERICCSON CHAMP! And I'm sure he's all smiles when he receives that check.

good well said

Murray Mound
04-04-2010, 05:45 PM
if you do watch tennis, you should at least know espn commentators are full of $h!t

what about the NY Times?

On Friday, he used an aggressive serve-and-volley game to defeat Rafael Nadal in the semifinals of the Sony Ericsson Open. On Saturday, he played in an amusing two-set charity event here to support earthquake relief in Chile.

And on Sunday, he reverted to a different style, playing more from the baseline and slicing and top-spinning his way to a steady 7-5, 6-4 victory over Tomas Berdych to win his first title here since 2004, and his first ATP Masters 1000 series tournament since Cincinnati in 2006.

With his increased variety of weapons, which have been developed under the tutelage of his coach, Larry Stefanki, Roddick has become the hottest player on the tour. Sunday’s triumph was his second tournament title of the year and extended his match record to a tour-best 26-4.

AM95
04-04-2010, 05:47 PM
Roddick played that match to win, not to entertain a bunch of so called tennis fans. Stop complaining

^^^^^this!!

we know roddick can play aggresivley...we saw that vs Nadal. he wanted to get the title, he played without taking huge risks, and it payed off. he said it himself, that style of play wont work against the likes of Federer and Nadal, because they'll stand in the duece/add court and just rip their forehands and move roddic around.

RCizzle65
04-04-2010, 05:50 PM
roddick is naturally a defensive player once the ball is in play, due to his late growth spurt, he was always smaller than the other guys on tour earlier on, similar to hewitt's counter punching/never say die style as he was always playing older/mature players from a younger age....

So Roddick decided to blast his forehand and go out of his comfort zone for 4-5 years in the pros, then revert back to it randomly, not a coach's decision?

Murray Mound
04-04-2010, 05:53 PM
^^^^^this!!

we know roddick can play aggresivley...we saw that vs Nadal. he wanted to get the title, he played without taking huge risks, and it payed off. he said it himself, that style of play wont work against the likes of Federer and Nadal, because they'll stand in the duece/add court and just rip their forehands and move roddic around.

Exactly why he used serve and volley to defeat Nadal. Federer might be able to learn something there!

dh003i
04-04-2010, 05:56 PM
LOL just maybe? By far and away the 2nd best player, and could be argued to be on par with Federer.

I would agree with him being clearly the 2nd best, but not on par with Federer. Ask Roddick if he would trade results with Federer so-far this year. To ask that question is to answer it. That alone will tell you who is having the better year.

Murray Mound
04-04-2010, 05:58 PM
Roddick is cool. Fed is a Vain woman.

devila
04-04-2010, 06:49 PM
He had an injury excuse all ready before he dumped the San Jose & Memphis finals away. (It's not Memphis quarterfinal). He couldn't give a damn in Indian Wells, when a trophy's in his face. Of course, after tanking the Australian Open shamelessly, anything he does now on the court looks surprising. Year after year. It's no news that Fed fan boys are arrogantly scoffing.

canuckfan
04-04-2010, 07:11 PM
Minne-soh-dah.

Mother Marjorie is curious about you Canadian tennis players. Is it difficult transitioning from indoor play during the winter time to hardcourt during the spring?

Cool, when did canada annex minnesota? Geography is awesome.

edmondsm
04-04-2010, 07:18 PM
uhhh roddick sucks? such a boring final he has no aggressive plays. as as example, his first match point, 34 strokes, waiting for berdych to make a mistake, and he made nothing happen. im glad he won it though, better than berdych holding up that trophy.

Have to agree about that rally. Andy always tightens up on big points. Hence, last years Wimbledon final. However, saying a top 10 former world #1 sucks from behind a computer screen is hilarious.

NamRanger
04-04-2010, 07:18 PM
I would agree with him being clearly the 2nd best, but not on par with Federer. Ask Roddick if he would trade results with Federer so-far this year. To ask that question is to answer it. That alone will tell you who is having the better year.



If we're talking purely based on points you can argue that Roddick is having a better year. Roddick would gladly trade his year right now for that AO title, I'm sure of it, but overall Roddick has outperformed Federer at nearly every tournament so far.

Commando Tennis Shorts
04-04-2010, 07:31 PM
Good Job Commando! I agree with you 100%. I have been guilty of bashing Roddick myself, so I am not getting on my soapbox. Now people aren't satisfied that he WON, they criticize the WAY he won. Let's just settle down and put this into perspective. Roddick won a Master's Series Tournament and beat an in form Nadal in the semis. Last week he lost a final to an inspired Ljubicic at Indian Wells, who was serving out of his head. Roddick does not have the smoothest or most beautiful flowing game in the world. You can always find issues with his strokes or movement and its easy to criticize his strategy, but he is winning. Lets give him a break.
In bold is my favorite analysis of the situation yet. It truly speaks volumes. Well said, sir

I totally agree!!
Oh, you! :)

Yeah man. There are some people here just full of hate. No matter what Roddick does will never be good enough, they'll always make excuses. Hell, he can go undefeated the rest of the year, and everyone will just be saying that everyone else had a bad year.. Whatevers!!

Whatever hate many of you have, and whatever excuse or comment to try and belittle what his accomplishment was... I only got one thing to say SONY-ERICCSON CHAMP! And I'm sure he's all smiles when he receives that check.
Yup, sometimes there are just people whose minds will never be swayed no matter what happens. This, of course, includes more than just tennis.

In any case, Roddick's the man and will be relevant for years to come. The haters will just have to deal with it. I'm sure Roddick is enjoying his win. All his fans are doing the same, so it really doesn't matter what the haters say

Murray Mound
04-04-2010, 07:39 PM
Have to agree about that rally. Andy always tightens up on big points. Hence, last years Wimbledon final. However, saying a top 10 former world #1 sucks from behind a computer screen is hilarious.

People change and evolve.

Andy really never gives up.

He has been in four grand slam finals with Fed but he just keeps on trying.

In any other era Andy would be a multiple grand slam winner and one of the greatest of all time.

The fact that he just keeps on trying is amazing. He has changed his game once again......to a more Murray style of game or on other days a serve and volley game.

I think this time he is going to do it. He will definitely win eithe the USO or the AO.

World Beater
04-04-2010, 08:30 PM
Have to agree about that rally. Andy always tightens up on big points. Hence, last years Wimbledon final. However, saying a top 10 former world #1 sucks from behind a computer screen is hilarious.

i think roddicks tactic was to play conservative against berdman.

against federer it was a diff story - he had to take more risk, and he did..he just missed the bh volley in the TB and missed a second serve return at 15-40 after being too aggressive.

luv2volley
04-04-2010, 08:55 PM
It's actually called Serve & Push (S&P).

It's a new breed of tennis.

Push, block, punch netplay are part of the 80's tennis.

Ljubicic for number1
04-04-2010, 09:03 PM
Ljubicic is clearly the best player of 2010 and owned Roddick last week. Lucky for Roddick, Ljubi got injured this week or Ljubi would be making his run to number 1 now:twisted:

JoshDragon
04-04-2010, 09:33 PM
You are joking, right?

Chip, charge and volley was mainstream tennis for the first 100 years of the sport until the mindless ball-bashers began breeding.

Mother Marjorie has spoken.

Do you even know who Bill Tilden is?

MotherMarjorie
04-04-2010, 09:51 PM
Cool, when did canada annex minnesota? Geography is awesome.
In terms of tennis geography, Minnesota and Canada are two of the same. Long winters, short outdoor tennis season.

edmondsm
04-04-2010, 11:41 PM
People change and evolve.

Andy really never gives up.

He has been in four grand slam finals with Fed but he just keeps on trying.

In any other era Andy would be a multiple grand slam winner and one of the greatest of all time.

The fact that he just keeps on trying is amazing. He has changed his game once again......to a more Murray style of game or on other days a serve and volley game.

I think this time he is going to do it. He will definitely win eithe the USO or the AO.

Agree completely. Roddick is one of my favorite players and I pull for him because of all the reasons you listed.

i think roddicks tactic was to play conservative against berdman.

against federer it was a diff story - he had to take more risk, and he did..he just missed the bh volley in the TB and missed a second serve return at 15-40 after being too aggressive.

I've been watching Roddick his whole career and I could name half a dozen instances where he gagged at the moment of truth. He just over-thinks the critical moments. There were perfect examples in the Indian Wells final.

LameTennisPlayer
04-04-2010, 11:49 PM
So Roddick decided to blast his forehand and go out of his comfort zone for 4-5 years in the pros, then revert back to it randomly, not a coach's decision?

whats your point? he has a big serve, and (had) a big forehand, but still an overall defensive game, he is no natural serve and volleyer, even if he has limited success as of late, so him being a saviour of serve and volley; far from it.

Murray Mound
04-05-2010, 03:59 AM
Do you even know who Bill Tilden is?

The original Roger Federer. Maybe in more ways than just tennis....nuff said.;)

egn
04-05-2010, 08:55 AM
So basically Roddick will never catch a break, whats even more funny is at the moment if the race rankings still existed he would be number 1 with 2450 ahead of Federer at 2225. Sure Federer is doing his usual tank jobs at the masters but some sort of credit should be given. Complain all you want but currently his game is currently winning. He played a match against Berdych to win, sorry you all were upset. Whats more funny is half of you praise longer points and longer rallies yet you get them and you complain? So do we mindless ball bashing power fests..if that is the case line up Gulbis with Davydenko and have them just smack the ball in straight lines back and forth all night. Seriously cut the guy some slack, he is playing some of the best tennis he has since what 2006..I hope he wins a slam this year just to watch this forum implode.

dennis1188
04-05-2010, 09:18 AM
He should play more doubles to feel more confident at the net.

Murray Mound
04-05-2010, 09:41 AM
whats your point? he has a big serve, and (had) a big forehand, but still an overall defensive game, he is no natural serve and volleyer, even if he has limited success as of late, so him being a saviour of serve and volley; far from it.

He has worked on his volleys big time! Much much impoved. And to beat Nadal serve and volleying really gives this style of at some legitamacy.

okdude1992
04-05-2010, 12:09 PM
He has worked on his volleys big time! Much much impoved. And to beat Nadal serve and volleying really gives this style of at some legitamacy.

He didn't serve and volley against Nadal though. He served...and he volleyed...but he didn't serve and volley. Let me break this down. It's very simple.

serve and volley = serve and come into the net right away

what roddick did was:
serve and blast a forehand or two, then come into the net if necessary.

saying he's the savior of S&V is ridiculous at best!

Cyan
04-05-2010, 01:45 PM
Stefanki is a genius.

wilkinru
04-05-2010, 02:12 PM
He didn't serve and volley against Nadal though. He served...and he volleyed...but he didn't serve and volley. Let me break this down. It's very simple.

serve and volley = serve and come into the net right away

what roddick did was:
serve and blast a forehand or two, then come into the net if necessary.

saying he's the savior of S&V is ridiculous at best!

Yes he did. He came RIGHT in on his second serve.

Murray Mound
04-05-2010, 02:54 PM
He didn't serve and volley against Nadal though. He served...and he volleyed...but he didn't serve and volley. Let me break this down. It's very simple.

serve and volley = serve and come into the net right away

what roddick did was:
serve and blast a forehand or two, then come into the net if necessary.

saying he's the savior of S&V is ridiculous at best!


NT TIMES:

He (Roddick) also started to follow his second serve to the net and put away volleys. While many tour players have difficulty with Roddick’s second serve — not to mention his first — Nadal is not one of them. So Roddick ran in after his second serve five times in the third set, and won four of those points.

Asked what it was like to charge the net against Nadal, Roddick compared it to “driving into head-on traffic.”

Chris Rizutto
04-05-2010, 04:12 PM
I give Stefanki full marks for Roddicks improvements.

samprasvsfederer123
04-05-2010, 06:15 PM
Do you even know who Bill Tilden is?

a homosexual that abused of boys?

devila
04-05-2010, 11:04 PM
Ljubicic is clearly the best player of 2010 and owned Roddick last week. Lucky for Roddick, Ljubi got injured this week or Ljubi would be making his run to number 1 now:twisted:
Ljublucky will never benefit from another choke fom Roddick. At least your Ljub will remember his wins & choked matches against Federer (his daddy).

Murray Mound
04-06-2010, 06:41 AM
Guys , if you play USTA would you mind voting in this poll:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=321134

Joseph L. Barrow
04-06-2010, 11:22 AM
He didn't serve and volley against Nadal though. He served...and he volleyed...but he didn't serve and volley. Let me break this down. It's very simple.

serve and volley = serve and come into the net right away

what roddick did was:
serve and blast a forehand or two, then come into the net if necessary.

saying he's the savior of S&V is ridiculous at best!
How much of the match did you watch?? Roddick played serve-and-volley numerous times, especially on his second serve, and with surprising success. Notably, he saved the first break point he faced with a daring second - serve serve-and-volley play, and played multiple serve-and-volley points to dig out a couple of his crucial holds in the third set. "Savior of serve and volley" may be going too far, but your post is equally far off (though in the opposite direction).

Murray Mound
04-16-2010, 06:53 AM
How much of the match did you watch?? Roddick played serve-and-volley numerous times, especially on his second serve, and with surprising success. Notably, he saved the first break point he faced with a daring second - serve serve-and-volley play, and played multiple serve-and-volley points to dig out a couple of his crucial holds in the third set. "Savior of serve and volley" may be going too far, but your post is equally far off (though in the opposite direction).

Yeah it's a bit too far. But surprisingly he used it more in that match than anyone else in the top 10....plus I also think it was the key to beating Nadal.

Besides these days I'll settle for a serve, aproach & volley any day !

CMM
04-17-2010, 12:46 AM
I don't think so. Even Murray looked like the saviour of S&V when he played against Nadal.

Murray Mound
04-17-2010, 05:43 AM
serve and volley = serve and come into the net right away

although roddick did serve and volley many points immediately as you say....I do not agree that is th proper definition of the word.

McEnroe clearly was a serve amd volleyer. He did not come In immediately after every point. In many instances he would hit an approach shot in no mans land and then charge the net .

Murray Mound
04-17-2010, 05:44 AM
I don't think so. Even Murray looked like the saviour of S&V when he played against Nadal.

But Federer did not.