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ihearit1st
04-21-2010, 12:05 PM
I'd like to open an INTELLIGENT discussion regarding the strength of the top conferences in both mens/womens tennis. I took the top 50 schools and found that the majority of ranked teams came out of the PAC 10, Big 12, Big 10, SEC and ACC. They all have at least 5 teams in the top 50.

Then I took the top 5 teams in each conference and averaged their rankings. The mens conference strength was:

SEC (average of 10 over top 5 teams)
Big 12 (11.2)
Pac 10 (12.2)
ACC (15.8)
Big 10 (21.2)

Top 5 Womens:

SEC (11)
ACC (11.2)
Pac 10 (13.8)
Big 10 (18.2)
Big 12 (26.8)

What do you think?

Edit: What's with the Smileys? They're supposed to be eights.

Dream_On
04-21-2010, 12:36 PM
What are the best div 2, 3, jc and naia confrences?

tennis08tarheels
04-21-2010, 02:39 PM
What are the best div 2, 3, jc and naia confrences?

Off topic, but I'll answer the DIII question.

(1) NESCAC
#1 Middlebury
#8 Amherst
#12 Williams
#13 Bowdoin
#18 Trinity (CT)
#29 Bates
Other teams of note: Tufts

(2) UAA
#2 Washington University-St. Louis
#3 Emory
#7 Carnegie Mellon
#16 Chicago
Other teams of note: Case Western Reserve, Brandeis

(3) SCIAC
#4 Claremont-Mudd Scripps
#5 Cal Lutheran
#17 Redlands
#23 Pomona-Pitzer
Other teams of note: Occidental, Whittier

(4) SCAC
#14 Trinity (TX)
#16 DePauw
Other teams of note: Rhodes, Oglethorpe

After those four there aren't really any conferences with much depth.

ihearit1st
04-21-2010, 02:39 PM
What are the best div 2, 3, jc and naia confrences?

Don't hijack a thread on the first reply.

tennis08tarheels
04-21-2010, 03:11 PM
Division I isn't my thing, but it seems like the Pac 10 has the most teams in the top 10 or 15, but that the SEC and Big 12 are a little better top-to-bottom. The ACC is a fairly distant 4th, and the Big Ten is pretty far behind the ACC.

ihearit1st
04-21-2010, 04:32 PM
Division I isn't my thing, but it seems like the Pac 10 has the most teams in the top 10 or 15, but that the SEC and Big 12 are a little better top-to-bottom. The ACC is a fairly distant 4th, and the Big Ten is pretty far behind the ACC.

Pac 10 doesn't have the most in top 10 OR 15. They've got the 3rd most. Pac 10 has 3 top 15, SEC has 4 top 15, Big 12 has 4 as well.

socaltennnis
04-21-2010, 06:03 PM
Pac 10 doesn't have the most in top 10 OR 15. They've got the 3rd most. Pac 10 has 3 top 15, SEC has 4 top 15, Big 12 has 4 as well.

Only because Cal is #16, but I digress.

tennis08tarheels
04-21-2010, 11:59 PM
Pac 10 doesn't have the most in top 10 OR 15. They've got the 3rd most. Pac 10 has 3 top 15, SEC has 4 top 15, Big 12 has 4 as well.

Like I said...DI is not what I follow most. I'm basing my posts on the last few years. Seems like the Pac 10 has 3-4 programs that are regularly in the top 10 and they usually have good representation in the top 5. The Big 12 has 3 teams that have spent most of the past 5 years in the top 10 (t.u., A&M and Baylor).

Again, I don't follow DI closely so I might be off target here, but I'd say these are the top 10 programs of the last 6-8 years (obviously not in order):

Stanford (Pac 10)
UCLA (Pac 10)
Southern Cal (Pac 10)
Texas (Big 12)
Texas A&M (Big 12)
Baylor (Big 12)
Virginia (ACC)
Georgia (SEC)
Ohio State (Big Ten)
Illinois (Big Ten)

As you can see, lots of representation by the Pac 10 and Big 12. The Big Ten has two very good programs but not a lot outside of those two. The SEC is not bad at all...if the list was 20 teams instead of 10 then you'd probably see 4-5 SEC teams.

andfor
04-22-2010, 04:28 AM
Like I said...DI is not what I follow most. I'm basing my posts on the last few years. Seems like the Pac 10 has 3-4 programs that are regularly in the top 10 and they usually have good representation in the top 5. The Big 12 has 3 teams that have spent most of the past 5 years in the top 10 (t.u., A&M and Baylor).

Again, I don't follow DI closely so I might be off target here, but I'd say these are the top 10 programs of the last 6-8 years (obviously not in order):

Stanford (Pac 10)
UCLA (Pac 10)
Southern Cal (Pac 10)
Texas (Big 12)
Texas A&M (Big 12)
Baylor (Big 12)
Virginia (ACC)
Georgia (SEC)
Ohio State (Big Ten)
Illinois (Big Ten)

As you can see, lots of representation by the Pac 10 and Big 12. The Big Ten has two very good programs but not a lot outside of those two. The SEC is not bad at all...if the list was 20 teams instead of 10 then you'd probably see 4-5 SEC teams.

Excluding this year going back 6-8 years ommitting Ole Miss is an error. And what about Florida?

ga tennis
04-22-2010, 06:32 AM
The strongest conference in division two is the Peach Belt.

stanfordtennis alum
04-22-2010, 02:06 PM
The strongest conference in division two is the Peach Belt.

along with the Gulf South and the SSC conference

ClarkC
04-22-2010, 11:23 PM
Edit: What's with the Smileys? They're supposed to be eights.

An 8 followed by a close parenthesis is the code for a regular smiley face. Put a space between the 8 and the ) and there is no problem: 8 )