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ninman
05-25-2010, 11:38 PM
Hi folks, so I recently found a cockroach in my home, just one, no others since. However I'm certain that I'm going to see more, and it feels like there is very little I can do about it. I have a phobia of insects, and I live in China, and nobody in China seems to care about cockroaches. So they are in the building I live in, which means that I'm probably going to see more in my home at some point in the future.

I actually can't sleep thinking about it, because I keep imagining the disgusting things crawling on my bed while I'm sleeping. I can handle some insects, like most nights I get moths in my house and I don't care about them, and if I see a spider while scared, once it's been killed and disposed of I feel safe knowing that I'm not infested with them.

But cockroaches give me a whole new level of terror, simply because I know that if you do get infested (likely since the building is probably infested) then you will start seeing hoards of the horrible things everywhere, and I really can't stand that. My landlords advice "clean up". What can I do?

ubermeyer
05-25-2010, 11:57 PM
Clean up, stock up on some Raid.

I hate roaches too.

albino smurf
05-26-2010, 04:54 AM
clean with boric acid powder.

dropshot winner
05-26-2010, 05:00 AM
Shortterm solution would be a mosquito-net, that way you at least won't be bothered during the night.

meowmix
05-26-2010, 05:04 AM
There's this chalk that's supposed to be quite effective. It comes in a orangish small box, and you apply it to the boundary of your home. It's really quite popular, and when we go back to China, we've been able to find it everywhere.

Keep in mind the conditions that cockroaches will come if you leave food around, or aren't careful when cleaning up. The advice your landlord gave you is sound: clean up!

Dedans Penthouse
05-26-2010, 06:47 AM
Hi folks, so I recently found a cockroach in my home,


I actually can't sleep thinking about it, because I keep imagining the disgusting things crawling on my bed while I'm sleeping. ....and if I see a spider while scared, once it's been killed and disposed of I feel safe knowing that I'm not infested with them.

But cockroaches give me a whole new level of terror, simply because I know that if you do get infested (likely since the building is probably infested) then you will start seeing hoards of the horrible things everywhere, and I really can't stand that. My landlords advice "clean up".

What can I do?"Crawling on your bed while you're sleeping?" Your bed is the least of your worries. Cockroaches like "company." What can you do? Here's what:

Plug up your ears and nostrils with candlewax before going to sleep and wear a screen mesh over your mouth to prevent:

http://www.ralphmag.org/CS/roach-in-ear279x278.gif

OR EVEN WORSE:

http://digg.com/odd_stuff/Kentucky_Man_Sets_Cockroach_in_Mouth_Record/t.jpg

Myself, when it comes to cockroaches, I leave the **** out and smoke the roaches:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsUhMylZfnc

Talker
05-26-2010, 07:36 AM
I was in a building quite awhile back that became infested with coachroaches.
Finally the owner had a company come out and put a brown like paste substance at a few areas around the apartment, corners, inside cabinets etc. Within 2-3 weeks the coachroaches were all gone, I saw only one in the 3 years after the treatment.
The cockroaches eat the stuff and die slowly, as they are dying they go back to their nest and die there. The other cockroaches in the nest eat the infected dead cockroaches and die too. ALL of them were gone within weeks, amazing.

Bud
05-26-2010, 07:47 AM
Here ya go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBim1j1tVbE

:)

ninman
05-26-2010, 08:25 AM
Here ya go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBim1j1tVbE

:)

Yeah they are disgusting alright, truly horrible creatures. This movie doesn't really scare me though.

drakulie
05-26-2010, 09:30 AM
Just get some Roids, erhmm, I mean Raid.

jmverdugo
05-26-2010, 10:36 AM
do they fly? boy those are nasty...

marsh
05-26-2010, 10:44 AM
Go to your local John Deer Lawn Care and get some Talstar or order it on line. It's safe and easy to mix and spray. It works great. We live in the city limits and have always had a tough time with roaches outside. I bought some and applied it and we haven't seen one yet this season.

This is the same stuff that a lot of professionals use and you can buy approx 5 years worth for $35.

Dedans Penthouse
05-26-2010, 10:48 AM
ninman, you hate "creepy-crawlies?" .....it could be worse.....



"What 'r you lookin' at?"
http://qpm.ca/Pests/House-Centipede.jpg



Dipped in chilli oil, yum! - awesome flavor:
http://www.abestpest.com/images/insects/House_centipede.jpg



So, it's the day of the "Animal Kingdom Super Bowl" (this one played in a 'warm-weather' site) between the defending champion Vertebrates and the young upstart Invertebrates, a 14-point underdog. The game goes as scripted, the bookies are all smiling and after totally dominating the first half, the Vertebrates take a 21-0 halftime lead into the locker room.

The teams come out onto the field for the 2nd half and immediately the Vertebrates score to make it 28-0. The Invertebrates coach is looking around, scouring his bench, desparate to find an answer to the onslaught. He sees the Centipede sitting on the bench and barks: "GET IN THERE!"

No sooner does the hundred-legger get into the game before he wriggles and wiggles his way to an 80-yard TD. His team now amped, forces a fumble and returns it for a TD: 28-14. On the ensuing possession, the Centipede makes a brilliant "5-handed" interception and takes it to the house. By now, "mo" (momentum) has clearly swung 180 degrees and Jungle Stadium is going apeshiate! The turnaround continues with three more unanswered TD's by the Invertebrates (the last one coming on a *flea-flicker*) and they win going away, 42-28.

In the locker room afterwards admist the champagne spraying and the TV cameras, the Invertebrates coach seeks out the Centipede and finds him over in a corner: "Hey, great game buddy!....but where the hell were you in the 1st half?!" ........."Oh, I wuz puttin' on my spikes."

CCNM
05-26-2010, 11:15 AM
I'd take some spray and run it along the baseboards and outside around the house. While we're on the subject of pests I found a wasp building a nest outside my front door! fortunately I was able to destroy it and the nest before it was occupied. I don't hate wasps/bees but I don't want them that close to me!

sureshs
05-26-2010, 12:18 PM
Dude do you know how many microscopic ticks and mites are with you in your bed everyday?

r2473
05-26-2010, 12:20 PM
Dude do you know how many microscopic ticks and mites are with you in your bed everyday?

No, how many?

sureshs
05-26-2010, 01:16 PM
No, how many?

That is what I want you to count and tell me

atatu
05-26-2010, 01:22 PM
Roaches are the least of your problems...at the moment there is a bed bug epidemic in the United States (maybe not in China) they are a lot tougher to get rid of and they travel from home to home very easily. If you are travelling a lot check your hotel bed when you check in.

r2473
05-26-2010, 01:30 PM
If you are travelling a lot check your hotel bed when you check in.

If you ever seriously did this, you would never stay at a hotel. Period.

Some things are best left unknown.

ninman
05-26-2010, 03:19 PM
Roaches are the least of your problems...at the moment there is a bed bug epidemic in the United States (maybe not in China) they are a lot tougher to get rid of and they travel from home to home very easily. If you are travelling a lot check your hotel bed when you check in.

I used to live in Canada and have had first hand experience of bed bugs. They don't really scare me anymore. Roaches are just disgusting on so many levels.

Dedans Penthouse
05-26-2010, 03:28 PM
No, how many?
That is what I want you to count and tell me
Grumps......100.

Or, Maggie, Terre & Suzzy from Park Ridge, NJ

LuckyR
05-26-2010, 04:54 PM
Hi folks, so I recently found a cockroach in my home, just one, no others since. However I'm certain that I'm going to see more, and it feels like there is very little I can do about it. I have a phobia of insects, and I live in China, and nobody in China seems to care about cockroaches. So they are in the building I live in, which means that I'm probably going to see more in my home at some point in the future.

I actually can't sleep thinking about it, because I keep imagining the disgusting things crawling on my bed while I'm sleeping. I can handle some insects, like most nights I get moths in my house and I don't care about them, and if I see a spider while scared, once it's been killed and disposed of I feel safe knowing that I'm not infested with them.

But cockroaches give me a whole new level of terror, simply because I know that if you do get infested (likely since the building is probably infested) then you will start seeing hoards of the horrible things everywhere, and I really can't stand that. My landlords advice "clean up". What can I do?


Do you live in a single family dwelling or an apartment building?

SoBad
05-26-2010, 08:10 PM
Keep the kitchen pristinely clean first and foremost, any food leftover should be going into double plastic bag bin. Take out your garbage at least daily. Use chemicals, as others suggested. I lived in S China before, keep in mind there’s a lot of insects there but many of them are not true roaches, more like bug/roach hybrid, so they’re okay, and they don’t really look for people in beds anyway.

ninman
05-26-2010, 10:49 PM
Do you live in a single family dwelling or an apartment building?

an apartment building, I live alone, and I'm worried my place will end up looking like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFse9Z4srTU

ninman
05-27-2010, 06:03 AM
So having found a very big live cockroach in my place and after checking behind the fridge I know that my apartment has cockroaches. I'm totally terrified, I can't even sleep. So I'm going to move.

Thomas Crown
05-27-2010, 12:10 PM
Dude do you know how many microscopic ticks and mites are with you in your bed everyday?

http://coto2.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/dr-evil2.jpg

100 million bajillion

LuckyR
05-27-2010, 12:12 PM
an apartment building, I live alone, and I'm worried my place will end up looking like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFse9Z4srTU

You can move but as long as you are in an apartment building you will have roaches. They gravitate to the least clean apartment but then infest the entire building. Cleaning your apartment does nothing. You can make your living space uninhabitable by them though, but you have to keep up the defense indefinitely. In a single family home you can eradicate them (if they are already there) and keep them at bay with perimeter measures without actually introducing anything into the home (once they are eradicated).

Fedace
05-27-2010, 12:12 PM
umummmm Delicious.....

ninman
05-27-2010, 04:19 PM
You can move but as long as you are in an apartment building you will have roaches. They gravitate to the least clean apartment but then infest the entire building. Cleaning your apartment does nothing. You can make your living space uninhabitable by them though, but you have to keep up the defense indefinitely. In a single family home you can eradicate them (if they are already there) and keep them at bay with perimeter measures without actually introducing anything into the home (once they are eradicated).

Yeah, maybe I'm just going to have to conquer my fear and kill them whenever I see one, but I'd rather not have to live like this for the next 7 weeks. They are smoky brown roaches, look like American ones, only a little smaller. I had a friend come over to kill it and the first thing he said when he saw it was "mother******* that's huge!" Watching it die freaked me out like crazy.

Mike Bulgakov
05-27-2010, 11:24 PM
"Hey, I think that cockroach is following us..."

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126884.200-cyborg-cockroaches-could-power-own-electric-brains.html
Cyborg cockroaches could power own electric 'brains'
30 December 2008 by David Robson

PITY future cyborg insects. As if being remotely controlled by a human isn't bad enough, their every movement may be harnessed to power the electronics that hijack their bodies. This could also extend the length of their enslavement, since the microchips had previously relied on tiny batteries with short lifespans.

Engineers have been attempting to gain control of insects' bodies for some time, to act as discreet spies or to take advantage of their advanced sense of smell to detect chemicals or explosives.

To do this, researchers implant electrical stimulators that zap certain nerves or brain cells, triggering an impulse that makes the insect move in a desired direction. This process can be controlled by a preprogrammed chip or by remote control (New Scientist, 6 March 2008, p 40).

Fedace
05-28-2010, 12:05 AM
YUMMY bowl.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s148/anselon7/deepfried20cockroach.jpg

Fedace
05-28-2010, 12:08 AM
Makes me Hungry.''

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s148/anselon7/roaches.jpg

ninman
05-28-2010, 12:20 AM
reading this thread has made me realise how truly nasty and sadistic some people are. I have a phobia of insects, it's really severe, and all some people want to do is take pleasure from that, and revel in my misery.

I have a British "friend" here, who also doesn't seem to understand how some people can have a phobia of insects, because according to him "I used to live in the jungle", like a comment like that is in any way helpful.

sureshs
05-28-2010, 09:05 AM
Insects are good sources of protein.

Fedace
05-28-2010, 10:30 AM
reading this thread has made me realise how truly nasty and sadistic some people are. I have a phobia of insects, it's really severe, and all some people want to do is take pleasure from that, and revel in my misery.

I have a British "friend" here, who also doesn't seem to understand how some people can have a phobia of insects, because according to him "I used to live in the jungle", like a comment like that is in any way helpful.

so that means, you won't be trying the delicacy above...???:confused:

sureshs
05-28-2010, 10:35 AM
reading this thread has made me realise how truly nasty and sadistic some people are. I have a phobia of insects, it's really severe, and all some people want to do is take pleasure from that, and revel in my misery.

I have a British "friend" here, who also doesn't seem to understand how some people can have a phobia of insects, because according to him "I used to live in the jungle", like a comment like that is in any way helpful.

It is all in your upbringing. There are people, whom we dismiss as "tribals," who live in remote areas where the only protein source is insects. They also eat slugs and snakes. Children there are not afraid of these creatures.

cghipp
05-28-2010, 10:45 AM
Dedans, what is that thing? I lived in an apartment once that had them everywhere, no lie! Thanks for bringing that nightmare back to me... They were so creepy - especially because they are FAST. I thought they were a kind of silverfish, but they seem much more menacing than the "usual" silverfish.

cghipp
05-28-2010, 10:52 AM
Never mind - just found it. It's actually a "house centipede," Scutigera coleoptrata. I totally have the heebie-jeebies right now - must be some kind of post-traumatic thing!

Dedans Penthouse
05-28-2010, 10:56 AM
Dedans, what is that thing? I lived in an apartment once that had them everywhere, no lie! Thanks for bringing that nightmare back to me... They were so creepy - especially because they are FAST. I thought they were a kind of silverfish, but they seem much more menacing than the "usual" silverfish.
Sorry cghipp....I was looking to get the hairs on ninman's neck to stand up given his "creepy crawly" phobia. That pix was of a "house centipede" a horrid little animal which invades homes where moist/damp environments exist (esp. damp cellars of old houses). They are amazingly fast and yes, alarming in appearance.....they look like running mustaches. Again, my apologies.....but I hope you at least liked my "Centipede Super Bowl/football spikes" joke.

cghipp
05-28-2010, 11:06 AM
Again, my apologies.....but I hope you at least liked my "Centipede Super Bowl/football spikes" joke.Very much, as always - I think you may be missing out on a brilliant career as an ad writer...

LuckyR
05-28-2010, 11:27 AM
Yeah, maybe I'm just going to have to conquer my fear and kill them whenever I see one, but I'd rather not have to live like this for the next 7 weeks. They are smoky brown roaches, look like American ones, only a little smaller. I had a friend come over to kill it and the first thing he said when he saw it was "mother******* that's huge!" Watching it die freaked me out like crazy.

What is going to happen in seven weeks?

Don't waste your time killing individuals, that does nothing. Your options for this problem are limited to one: you need to make your space uninhabitable to them. The product is diatomaceous earth. Hard bodied insects (like roaches) cannot live where this is placed. You will need a professional "puffer" or blower to aerate the product so you get lots of coverage from a medium amount of the product. Luckily the tip of the instrument is almost needlenosed so you can drill very small holes into hollow walls and get behind them as well as get behind cabinetry (their personal favorate place to be).

Good luck.

ProCoach
05-28-2010, 11:35 AM
Hi folks, so I recently found a cockroach in my home, just one, no others since. However I'm certain that I'm going to see more, and it feels like there is very little I can do about it. I have a phobia of insects, and I live in China, and nobody in China seems to care about cockroaches. So they are in the building I live in, which means that I'm probably going to see more in my home at some point in the future.

I actually can't sleep thinking about it, because I keep imagining the disgusting things crawling on my bed while I'm sleeping. I can handle some insects, like most nights I get moths in my house and I don't care about them, and if I see a spider while scared, once it's been killed and disposed of I feel safe knowing that I'm not infested with them.

But cockroaches give me a whole new level of terror, simply because I know that if you do get infested (likely since the building is probably infested) then you will start seeing hoards of the horrible things everywhere, and I really can't stand that. My landlords advice "clean up". What can I do?

Clean good with a light bleach water and then sprinkle boric acid in your nooks and crannies. It kills them like there is no tomorrow. Actually put a decent amount (the size of a penny) in a few hidden areas so that it will last, and they will soon disappear. There is something called Bengal insect killer that works like nothing else. If you can find it, buy it online. Spray it in the corners and adios. They will disappear for months. I just don't know how safe it is compared to the boric acid which is safe and odorless. Good Luck.....

Fedace
05-28-2010, 04:37 PM
Makes me Hungry.''

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s148/anselon7/roaches.jpg

We are cooking up a Storm this memorial day weekend.....:)

Tina
05-28-2010, 07:33 PM
so disgusting

Fedace
05-28-2010, 08:23 PM
so disgusting

It tastes just like Oriole cookies. Crunch on the outside and cheewy Creamy inside.........yummmmmmmmmmmm:)

Tina
05-28-2010, 08:29 PM
It tastes just like Oriole cookies. Crunch on the outside and cheewy Creamy inside.........yummmmmmmmmmmm:)

Are you serious? BBQ styles, no? Hey Fedance, I have a question for you. How long have you been playing tennis? I am very curious about it. -T

Fedace
05-28-2010, 08:31 PM
Are you serious? BBQ styles, no? Hey Fedance, I have a question for you. How long have you been playing tennis? I am very curious about it. -T

Since i was 12. and i still made the College Varsity team. Talk about talent...:)

Tina
05-28-2010, 08:37 PM
Since i was 12. and i still made the College Varsity team. Talk about talent...:)

I see. No wonder you know so much about college teams. Hey, do you chat online sometimes?

ninman
05-28-2010, 10:42 PM
What is going to happen in seven weeks?

Don't waste your time killing individuals, that does nothing. Your options for this problem are limited to one: you need to make your space uninhabitable to them. The product is diatomaceous earth. Hard bodied insects (like roaches) cannot live where this is placed. You will need a professional "puffer" or blower to aerate the product so you get lots of coverage from a medium amount of the product. Luckily the tip of the instrument is almost needlenosed so you can drill very small holes into hollow walls and get behind them as well as get behind cabinetry (their personal favorate place to be).

Good luck.

I live in China, I don't know where to get that sort of thing. I'm leaving to go back to the UK in 7 weeks. Nobody in China cares about cockroaches, every single person I've met has them in their apartment. Or has had some experience of them.

The action I'm taking is basically spraying raid everywhere, and sealing up all the cracks and crevices so it's harder for them to get in.

Fedace
05-28-2010, 11:13 PM
YUMMY bowl.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s148/anselon7/deepfried20cockroach.jpg

Ninman, or You could catch them and make this out of them.... Yummy bowl.:)

cghipp
05-29-2010, 06:42 AM
I live in China, I don't know where to get that sort of thing. I'm leaving to go back to the UK in 7 weeks. Nobody in China cares about cockroaches, every single person I've met has them in their apartment. Or has had some experience of them.... The action I'm taking is basically spraying raid everywhere, and sealing up all the cracks and crevices so it's harder for them to get in.No kidding, you will do yourself much more harm than good by gassing yourself and then sealing yourself in. The roaches aren't nearly as bad for you as the spot treatment. If you want to do an overall treatment but don't want to spend a lot of time/money, I'd look for a Raid or Black Flag "bug bomb" (fogger). It's still not very good for you, but it's designed to get down into the crevices and out of the air. It will work better and won't smell/feel so awful. The spot spray is more concentrated, but the fumes are a lot more noxious, and it doesn't have the coverage.

With the fogger, you put it on a chair or stool in the middle or the room (with some newspaper underneath), press the button, and get the heck out. Don't come back for a few hours. Don't leave any pets in the apartment- especially birds or cats, but really ANY pets. In fact, if your immediate neighbors (including above or below) have birds as pets, you shouldn't use it. Birds are extremely sensitive to fumes and you could literally kill them.

Make sure any food is in an airtight container. (You're probably doing this anyway if you have a bug problem.) There will be a coverage chart on the canister or box. If you have a small apartment or a studio, one fogger will probably be enough.

My husband sprayed the carpet around our back door with a spot treatment ant killer, to try to keep them out of the house. It was more than a week ago, and the smell still gags me from across the room - I'm going to have to steam clean the carpet. (Not to mention, that's not a very effective way to get rid of the ants.)

Where I live, the most common roaches are of the Palmetto Bug variety (1.5 to 2 inches or more). They're more commonly seen outside and don't really "infest" the house. You're more likely to have carried one in in a box or bag. Still gross, though - if you spray them they'll take HOURS to die, and if you stomp on them you've got a mess to clean up. We actually didn't have them here when I was a kid - they were very common in Columbia and Charleston, SC, where it's a bit hotter. It really freaked me out when I first saw them outside, at night, on the sidewalks. They look like they could team up and carry you away... But they have made their way upstate in the past 10-15 years.

LuckyR, I'm interested in the diatomaceous earth treatment you mentioned. Do you know if it's helpful for ants or silverfish? Maybe the ants don't really get into the walls, but I think the silverfish do and I HATE THEM.

Tina
06-01-2010, 12:57 PM
http://www.neurotranscendence.com/wp-content/uploads/cockroaches.jpg

El Diablo
06-01-2010, 02:36 PM
Do you know why the neurodegenerative condition Parkinson's Disease (as in Michael J. Fox) is more prevalent in agricultural states in the US? Epidemiologists believe it may be because most insecticides, used in agriculture, are neurotoxins that attack the insects' central nervous system, and perhaps ours as well. Think about that a bit before spraying, or fogging, any insecticides indoors at your home.

LuckyR
06-01-2010, 02:47 PM
I live in China, I don't know where to get that sort of thing. I'm leaving to go back to the UK in 7 weeks. Nobody in China cares about cockroaches, every single person I've met has them in their apartment. Or has had some experience of them.

The action I'm taking is basically spraying raid everywhere, and sealing up all the cracks and crevices so it's harder for them to get in.


Dude, you live in China, not the moon. Raid is less than useless the way you are using it. It is a toxin that you cannot/should not spray all over the place. It's role (as a toxin) is perimeter defense, not in the home use.

What you want is a nontoxic product that you can place in the living space so you can live there and the roaches can't.

I have had great luck with these guys, I bet they will ship anywhere that is legal. www.bugspray.com

LuckyR
06-01-2010, 02:51 PM
LuckyR, I'm interested in the diatomaceous earth treatment you mentioned. Do you know if it's helpful for ants or silverfish? Maybe the ants don't really get into the walls, but I think the silverfish do and I HATE THEM.

Although it will work, I would use two other products for ants and silverfish.

The silverfish are a special case since they are temperature sensitive and around here start outside of the home move up through the attic space and then down into the living space. I have had great luck baiting for them with a wheat germ based product blown into the attic space. Since they are canabalistic, one application will last a long time since the Borate in the dead silverfish bodies will be eaten by the next wave etc.

Are the ants carpenter ants?

LuckyR
06-01-2010, 02:53 PM
Do you know why the neurodegenerative condition Parkinson's Disease (as in Michael J. Fox) is more prevalent in agricultural states in the US? Epidemiologists believe it may be because most insecticides, used in agriculture, are neurotoxins that attack the insects' central nervous system, and perhaps ours as well. Think about that a bit before spraying, or fogging, any insecticides indoors at your home.


I agree with the idea of limiting toxin use, since it is often not as effective as other treatments, but you should be aware that suburban lawns can have higher insecticide levels than commercial agriculture.

cghipp
06-01-2010, 03:33 PM
Although it will work, I would use two other products for ants and silverfish.

The silverfish are a special case since they are temperature sensitive and around here start outside of the home move up through the attic space and then down into the living space. I have had great luck baiting for them with a wheat germ based product blown into the attic space. Since they are canabalistic, one application will last a long time since the Borate in the dead silverfish bodies will be eaten by the next wave etc.

Are the ants carpenter ants?Thanks for that info - I appreciate it. I'll Google the wheat germ product. Do you know anything about Drione dust for carpenter bees and wasps?

I don't think the ants are carpenter ants - they're very, very tiny. We have the heinous fire ants in the yard (as everyone does here), and we constantly battle them, as well as the carpenter wasps (or whatever the wasp version of carpenter bees is called). God forbid we have another house- or toddler-eating pest!

I think I may have pretty much gotten rid of the house ants, though. I put out those Combat ant baits, but they didn't seem to help a bit. I think what happened was, because my husband sprayed the floor and around the door in the areas where the ants were gaining access, they didn't ever go back out to the colony. I finally resorted to killing the ones I saw, and it's made a dramatic difference. We'll see in a couple of days if that difference is real or imagined...

LuckyR
06-01-2010, 04:02 PM
Thanks for that info - I appreciate it. I'll Google the wheat germ product. Do you know anything about Drione dust for carpenter bees and wasps?

I don't think the ants are carpenter ants - they're very, very tiny. We have the heinous fire ants in the yard (as everyone does here), and we constantly battle them, as well as the carpenter wasps (or whatever the wasp version of carpenter bees is called). God forbid we have another house- or toddler-eating pest!

I think I may have pretty much gotten rid of the house ants, though. I put out those Combat ant baits, but they didn't seem to help a bit. I think what happened was, because my husband sprayed the floor and around the door in the areas where the ants were gaining access, they didn't ever go back out to the colony. I finally resorted to killing the ones I saw, and it's made a dramatic difference. We'll see in a couple of days if that difference is real or imagined...


Ants (being ant-like) are best baited for, rather than sprayed against. Remember at any one time you are seeing <<1% of the total colony. Why put toxins in your home to kill a few wanderers that the colony will never miss? They are hungry, (that is why they are foraging in the first place) so feed them!!

For non carpenter ants (you do not have carpenter ants, they are rather large) I just make my own poison out of household borax and powdered sugar, they take it back to the colony and it poisons it and you don't have to find it yourself, which can be time-consuming and tedious. True another one will start up again but it will take at least a season.

I know nothing about carpenter bees/wasps. Though carpenter ant queens have wings during the swarming season. What exactly are you talking about?

If you do have carpenter ants there is a Professional product that I swear by, let me know. Wasp nests can be sprayed since they are relatively small. I have done it myself. There are even nontoxic sprays (usually mint based) that are neurotoxic to ants/wasps.

cghipp
06-01-2010, 05:52 PM
Ants (being ant-like) are best baited for, rather than sprayed against. Remember at any one time you are seeing <<1% of the total colony. Why put toxins in your home to kill a few wanderers that the colony will never miss? They are hungry, (that is why they are foraging in the first place) so feed them!!Believe me, I didn't want him to spray in the house. In addition to ruining the effect of the baits, it has left a noxious smell in the den that I'm going to have to clean out of the carpet.

I just make my own poison out of household borax and powdered sugar, they take it back to the colony and it poisons it and you don't have to find it yourself, which can be time-consuming and tedious. True another one will start up again but it will take at least a season.Thanks for that "recipe" - I always have those things on hand, so that will be easy.

I know nothing about carpenter bees/wasps. Though carpenter ant queens have wings during the swarming season. What exactly are you talking about?These are huge black wasps that will get under the soffit of the house and build a nest. They're not especially aggressive (that's what yellow jackets are for) but will give you a hell of a sting if you aggravate them by, for example, accidentally laying your arm down on top of one. Feels like getting hit by a hammer. I know when they're in the house because I can hear them buzzing in the walls - creepy! I think I need to go up into the attic and put something down at the perimeter. I don't want to caulk the lower edge of the soffit, because of the potential for rot if water is trapped in there. I swear, with all the "critters" we get in the hot and humid South, it sometimes feels like being stuck in some kind of jungle swarm!

LuckyR
06-02-2010, 08:57 AM
These are huge black wasps that will get under the soffit of the house and build a nest. They're not especially aggressive (that's what yellow jackets are for) but will give you a hell of a sting if you aggravate them by, for example, accidentally laying your arm down on top of one. Feels like getting hit by a hammer. I know when they're in the house because I can hear them buzzing in the walls - creepy! I think I need to go up into the attic and put something down at the perimeter. I don't want to caulk the lower edge of the soffit, because of the potential for rot if water is trapped in there. I swear, with all the "critters" we get in the hot and humid South, it sometimes feels like being stuck in some kind of jungle swarm!

Are the nests mud or paper? If mud, I would treat them with a toxin (you mention a toddler in your home) that is nontoxic to people. There is a mint oil based one that works quite well. It doesn't have the staying power of a true toxin but if you do it in the evening when everyone is at home in the nest, one application will be terminal for the colony.

If paper, those guys are pretty benign and I would not climb a high ladder to treat it since your likelihood of falling and breaking your neck is probably higher than being stung.

John55
06-02-2010, 09:32 AM
We have a cockroach infestation every summer. We're talking about those 1 inch long ones.

Usually they stay outside, but we all know when you see one...

cghipp
06-02-2010, 10:46 AM
Are the nests mud or paper? If mud, I would treat them with a toxin (you mention a toddler in your home) that is nontoxic to people. There is a mint oil based one that works quite well. It doesn't have the staying power of a true toxin but if you do it in the evening when everyone is at home in the nest, one application will be terminal for the colony.

If paper, those guys are pretty benign and I would not climb a high ladder to treat it since your likelihood of falling and breaking your neck is probably higher than being stung.Hmmm... I don't actually know about the nest material - I haven't seen the actual nests. I only see them enter the house under the eaves, and I can hear them in the walls sometimes. They haven't "started up" this summer yet, and I'd like to get something down to discourage them from doing so. We do have the "mud dauber" wasps, though - I find hollow mud tubes on the exterior brickwork here and there. I did a Google search on mud daubers and paper wasps, but they aren't different enough for me to be sure if we have one or the other, or both.

Thanks for sticking with this thread - it's been an education!

LuckyR
06-02-2010, 10:53 AM
Hmmm... I don't actually know about the nest material - I haven't seen the actual nests. I only see them enter the house under the eaves, and I can hear them in the walls sometimes. They haven't "started up" this summer yet, and I'd like to get something down to discourage them from doing so. We do have the "mud dauber" wasps, though - I find hollow mud tubes on the exterior brickwork here and there. I did a Google search on mud daubers and paper wasps, but they aren't different enough for me to be sure if we have one or the other, or both.

Thanks for sticking with this thread - it's been an education!


Since you asked about Drione, this might be an area where you can put it to use. If the wall in question is an outside wall (one where there is insulation between the studs) if you can pinpoint where the nest is located by listening carefully, then you can drill a pinpoint hole in the drywall and blow the dust into the nest. Naturally if it is an interior wall where there is no insulation you can just start anywhere above where the nesting sound is and do the same and the dust will settle onto the nest. The pinpoint hole is very easy to patch and repaint.