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rovex
05-29-2010, 02:35 PM
I mean, look, the guy even immitates Nadal's fist pumping!

http://i50.tinypic.com/11uan40.jpg

Not to forget bending over for him for whatever reason! :roll:

Gorecki
05-29-2010, 02:40 PM
this fistpumping mania is getting "redicoulis"

namelessone
05-29-2010, 02:47 PM
I mean, look, the guy even immitates Nadal's fist pumping!

http://i50.tinypic.com/11uan40.jpg

Not to forget bending over for him for whatever reason! :roll:

Stop copying me,cabron :)

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2009/1/30/1233315544450/Rafael-Nadal-001.jpg

Dimension
05-29-2010, 02:49 PM
^^^^^ LOL, 10 characters.

abraxas21
05-29-2010, 03:00 PM
What a clown this Tabasco.

Outbeyond
05-29-2010, 03:02 PM
He's really not a clown at all...LOL! Fortunately for us tennis lovers, he's quite good on the courts!

Raid
05-29-2010, 03:05 PM
I dont get it, it is none of your business, let them do whatever they want... lol

bizarre_opinion
05-29-2010, 03:09 PM
soon he'll follow rafa up his backside.

Ocean Drive
05-29-2010, 03:11 PM
they can do what they want, sure, but doesn't mean people can't have an opinion on it, like anything else we have opinions on

Jimmy Connors was the first to actually do this kind of fist pump.

djokovicgonzalez2010
05-29-2010, 03:14 PM
I wanted you to lose so much, Fernando.
However, I want you to beat Almagro, so sorry about your loss.

Outbeyond
05-29-2010, 03:20 PM
I wanted you to lose so much, Fernando.
However, I want you to beat Almagro, so sorry about your loss.

DG, why do you hate Nando? :confused:

BreakPoint
05-29-2010, 03:22 PM
Does anyone here actually have proof that Verdasco wasn't the one who started doing it first?

Also, maybe it's just a common celebration in Spain?

Outbeyond
05-29-2010, 03:24 PM
they can do what they want, sure, but doesn't mean people can't have an opinion on it, like anything else we have opinions on

Jimmy Connors was the first to actually do this kind of fist pump.

Makes perfect sense, Ocean Drive!

djokovicgonzalez2010
05-29-2010, 03:24 PM
DG, why do you hate Nando? :confused:

I don't hate him. He's in the top 50% of the top 100
I just like Kohl an awful lot

Outbeyond
05-29-2010, 03:26 PM
I don't hate him. He's in the top 50% of the top 100
I just like Kohl an awful lot

oh, ok, makes sense, too

Kohl played very, very well today - almost beat Verdasco! They both seemed friendly and respectful at the net at match end. Nice to see.

djokovicgonzalez2010
05-29-2010, 03:30 PM
I know :cry:
I'd rather someone lose Hewitt style (Played awful,get destroyed) than Kohl/JCF style (Play okay, come very close)

Outbeyond
05-29-2010, 03:33 PM
I know :cry:
I'd rather someone lose Hewitt style (Played awful,get destroyed) than Kohl/JCF style (Play okay, come very close)

Maybe for you as a fan. But for Verdasco, he'll be wary of Kohl henceforth. These guys know that when it's that close, there's a bit of luck going on.

djokovicgonzalez2010
05-29-2010, 03:37 PM
One weak service game, and then his headcasiness kicked in and he started playing Dasco's game, going for too many winners, too much on the return. And you aren't going to beat Verdasco trying his own style.

ronalditop
05-29-2010, 03:42 PM
What's next, buttocks augmentation?

Outbeyond
05-29-2010, 03:43 PM
One weak service game, and then his headcasiness kicked in and he started playing Dasco's game, going for too many winners, too much on the return. And you aren't going to beat Verdasco trying his own style.

You know, some may jump at this comparison, but I honestly think Verdasco has a lot of Nadal in him. The way he plays the backcourts, the way he moves up now and then at the net. There's something about his style that just seems so familiar to me.

I don't know much about Kohl - haven't watched him but twice, I think. He didn't strike me as a headcase, though, but you know his play better than I do.

djokovicgonzalez2010
05-29-2010, 03:45 PM
Melzer. Verdasco. Same player. Look at their matches, they play exactly the same (Despite the commentator's claim that Melter has no weapons, LOL)

Outbeyond
05-29-2010, 03:49 PM
Melzer. Verdasco. Same player. Look at their matches, they play exactly the same (Despite the commentator's claim that Melter has no weapons, LOL)

I will definitely take a closer look at Melzer...will try to watch his next match. He's been doing exceptionally well in this FO!

I think I reported earlier that The New York Times ran a great little story recently on drop shot players, and Melzer is apparently considered one of the best! In fact, let me see if I can get that story link for you....

Yes! It's great:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/28/sports/tennis/28iht-DROP.html?scp=1&sq=melzer&st=cse

djokovicgonzalez2010
05-29-2010, 04:00 PM
Melter is an even headcasier Verdasco imo. Except BH is bigger than FH

djokovicgonzalez2010
05-29-2010, 04:02 PM
http://tennischannel.rayv.com/video/ondemand.aspx?v=33716

Here ya go. HQ Melzer vs Ferrer

Anaconda
05-29-2010, 04:06 PM
Does anyone here actually have proof that Verdasco wasn't the one who started doing it first?

Also, maybe it's just a common celebration in Spain?

Do you have proof that Nadal didn't start it off?

Outbeyond
05-29-2010, 04:08 PM
Do you have proof that Nadal didn't start it off?

Anaconda, speaking of drop shots, you should just drop this topic...The starting theme of this thread is so juvenile, you'd be better off commenting elsewhere!!:)

Anaconda
05-29-2010, 04:09 PM
Melzer. Verdasco. Same player. Look at their matches, they play exactly the same (Despite the commentator's claim that Melter has no weapons, LOL)

Melzer doesn't go around saying 'i can beat everyone except for 'insert player 'x' who i fancy'. Verdasco is a joke to tennis. Lucky to even make it pro, only because this era is joke.

Outbeyond
05-29-2010, 04:11 PM
http://tennischannel.rayv.com/video/ondemand.aspx?v=33716

Here ya go. HQ Melzer vs Ferrer

Thanks for this link, DG!!! I've got it running and will definitely watch it, even if it runs while I'm tuning in to the NBA playoff game tonight (Suns v. Lakers....Go Phoenix!!!:))

I've wanted to know why Ferrer lost! I'll find out now....

djokovicgonzalez2010
05-29-2010, 04:12 PM
I like Melzer's demeanor better. Very, very emotional just like Verdasco, but without the bit of arrogance. Still, I hope Dasco can beat a guy who defines arrogance in Almagro, though I admire Nico's fighting spirit despite his choking ways.

You are welcome, Outbeyond. Melter simply could do no wrong in sets 1/2, and avoided a collapse in 3rd when it looked like the Melzdown would be there any second.

Outbeyond
05-29-2010, 04:13 PM
Melzer doesn't go around saying 'i can beat everyone except for 'insert player 'x' who i fancy'. Verdasco is a joke to tennis. Lucky to even make it pro, only because this era is joke.

I agree with you that Verdasco really needs to consult with a p.r. consultant!!...God, he's got the Open Mouth, Insert Foot syndrome really, really badly....

Leonidas
05-29-2010, 04:14 PM
What a clown this Tabasco.

sure, but He has more girls and way more money than you, you clown

aceX
05-29-2010, 04:14 PM
Spanish, lefty, decent on clay, topspin game.

He's basically nadal number 2

Outbeyond
05-29-2010, 04:17 PM
I like Melzer's demeanor better. Very, very emotional just like Verdasco, but without the bit of arrogance. Still, I hope Dasco can beat a guy who defines arrogance in Almagro, though I admire Nico's fighting spirit despite his choking ways.

You are welcome, Outbeyond. Melter simply could do no wrong in sets 1/2, and avoided a collapse in 3rd when it looked like the Melzdown would be there any second.

In my complete ignorance of what's no doubt truly going on, I wonder if Almagro doesn't worry deep down that he's the least heralded one amongst the top Spanish players. I mean, think about it: Nadal's the greatest from Spain, everyone knows that. Verdasco's up and coming and is drawing all kinds of attention of late with his tournament wins. Ferrer the same, and folks grew to trust Ferrer as the one to get to the semis, if nothing else. But Almagro's been left in the dust!!! It's gotta gall him no end.

Anyway, that's my armchair psychology, LOL!!

HookEmJeff
05-29-2010, 04:17 PM
ThreadFail.

Please, no one has a "trademark" on a celebration. The dude can stick, too.


Jeff

Leonidas
05-29-2010, 04:18 PM
Melzer. Verdasco. Same player. Look at their matches, they play exactly the same (Despite the commentator's claim that Melter has no weapons, LOL)

really? besides being lefties....Meltzer hits usually harder serves, worse forehand than verdasco, flatter backhand than verdasco and melzter approach the net A LOT more than verdasco. Donīt state things so quickly.

djokovicgonzalez2010
05-29-2010, 04:22 PM
In my complete ignorance of what's no doubt truly going on, I wonder if Almagro doesn't worry deep down that he's the least heralded one amongst the top Spanish players. I mean, think about it: Nadal's the greatest from Spain, everyone knows that. Verdasco's up and coming and is drawing all kinds of attention of late with his tournament wins. Ferrer the same, and folks grew to trust Ferrer as the one to get to the semis, if nothing else. But Almagro's been left in the dust!!! It's gotta gall him no end.

Anyway, that's my armchair psychology, LOL!!

Ferrero's underratedness >>> Almagro da Headcase's underratedness

And Melzer's bh is better, fh worse, but otherwise they are very similar.

djokovicgonzalez2010
05-29-2010, 04:25 PM
We officially suck. Want to do Queens doubles outbeyond?
Just going on law of percentages here

Oh, and while I've got you, let me ask this from other thread

Outbeyond
05-29-2010, 04:25 PM
really? besides being lefties....Meltzer hits usually harder serves, worse forehand than verdasco, flatter backhand than verdasco and melzter approach the net A LOT more than verdasco. Epic fail. Go to a tennis academy or study sports science as i did

Leo, you might want to take a course or two in the School of Humble. There's a classic saying from a master of media, Marshall McLuhan, that you'd do well to remember the next time you want to lay down your knowledge to others:

The Medium is the Message.

Outbeyond
05-29-2010, 04:27 PM
Oh, and while I've got you, let me ask this from other thread

oh, absolutely!!! I think we're clearly Prediction Loser Specialists!!!! LOL!!!!:)

djokovicgonzalez2010
05-29-2010, 04:29 PM
YEAH!!! Btw, it looks like we might (I repeat, might) still actually have a shot at QFs
I wanna see Melter in the Final and I actually think he matches up quite well vs both Djoker and Nadal if he survives the qualifier. If, that is, he can keep his head. 1/700 odds.

CanadianChic
05-29-2010, 04:30 PM
I mean, look, the guy even immitates Nadal's fist pumping!



Not to forget bending over for him for whatever reason! :roll:

Give it a rest.

Outbeyond
05-29-2010, 04:31 PM
YEAH!!! Btw, it looks like we might (I repeat, might) still actually have a shot at QFs
I wanna see Melter in the Final and I actually think he matches up quite well vs both Djoker and Nadal if he survives the qualifier. If, that is, he can keep his head. 1/700 odds.

I'm on board! You know, of course, I love my Rafa :):) but after reading that New York Times article about Melzer, I do think kindly of him!!! So let's see what happens...

Leonidas
05-29-2010, 04:32 PM
Leo, you might want to take a course or two in the School of Humble. There's a classic saying from a master of media, Marshall McLuhan, that you'd do well to remember the next time you want to lay down your knowledge to others:

The Medium is the Message.

Maybe i was too rude, i know. Man i just hate the way some people jump into stupid conclusions. Not because they donīt know about the topic, but because they want to look funny or state "General truths"

djokovicgonzalez2010
05-29-2010, 04:33 PM
Yeah, I wanna see Melter win this Slam in the biggest shock ever

djokovicgonzalez2010
05-29-2010, 04:35 PM
Ok, look, lefty, very offensive, underachievers, loves angles, nice (similar) serve, both huge chokers. That's what I'm going on here.

Outbeyond
05-29-2010, 04:35 PM
Maybe i was too rude, i know. Man i just hate the way some people jump into stupid conclusions. Not because they donīt know about the topic, but because they want to look funny or state "General truths"

Well, we're all guilty of the latter. Our passions take us there! I guess we all need to each reign in the excesses, though, when we spot 'em.;)

Outbeyond
05-29-2010, 04:37 PM
Yeah, I wanna see Melter win this Slam in the biggest shock ever

If that happened, I'd definitely be shocked but would also have to congratulate you on spotting the latest up-and-comer!!! Melzer really did seem like a super nice guy, too, in that article.

BreakPoint
05-29-2010, 04:39 PM
Do you have proof that Nadal didn't start it off?
No, I don't, but neither do you.

Outbeyond
05-29-2010, 04:40 PM
^^^(sigh)...lol

djokovicgonzalez2010
05-29-2010, 04:49 PM
If that happened, I'd definitely be shocked but would also have to congratulate you on spotting the latest up-and-comer!!! Melzer really did seem like a super nice guy, too, in that article.

Only 29 year old, won the Boy's Wimbledon title just a few years ago (1999)
Yep, this youngster has a future :D

The Baseline
06-01-2010, 07:25 PM
verdascos fistpumps are the product of a copycat society. i watched a college match live and realized just how aarogant and wrong these kids were. they all seemed to immitate nadal in how they did fist pumps and yelled after a winner. it was like these kids all thought they were on the world tour. i thought about how these kids were acting and how the game of tennis has descended down in terms of sportsmanship. I feel lucky just to be healthy and play this game at a high level and these kids are acting to fool out there with no respect for the game and their opponent. I wished more kids would be humble and show more class out there but look at the role models they have-its just not good for prior generations of tennis players who symboled sportsmanship

tsongaali
06-01-2010, 09:16 PM
verdascos fistpumps are the product of a copycat society. i watched a college match live and realized just how aarogant and wrong these kids were. they all seemed to immitate nadal in how they did fist pumps and yelled after a winner. it was like these kids all thought they were on the world tour. i thought about how these kids were acting and how the game of tennis has descended down in terms of sportsmanship. I feel lucky just to be healthy and play this game at a high level and these kids are acting to fool out there with no respect for the game and their opponent. I wished more kids would be humble and show more class out there but look at the role models they have-its just not good for prior generations of tennis players who symboled sportsmanship

Welcome to the real world, where have you been?

The Baseline
06-01-2010, 09:21 PM
Welcome to the real world, where have you been?

i know its just makes me soo mad because ive hit with players that have played a couple events on the challengers tour that are just soo humble and have been their whole life and then you get these people and put them on a team or have them in national events and they disrespect the foundation of tennis. Its sad to see our sport going in this direction

prattle128
06-01-2010, 09:32 PM
Honestly I don't see exactly what's so wrong with firing yourself up.. tennis is a mental sport, to keep your adrenaline and intensity going through whatever means of stimulation (obviously within reason) doesn't seem like a terrible thing to me. After a great rally if you yell come on or something like that, then I wouldn't really care. It's happened to me before and it'll happen again and that's just part of the mental side of tennis as far as I'm concerned. Now what is really disrespectful I think, and bad sportsmanship is yelling and fist pumping off of unforced errors. That's just being an idiot.