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leoresende2007
06-19-2010, 04:28 PM
Anybody know if Bernard Tomic is really using the Head Youtek Radical MP

baseline_monster
06-20-2010, 01:01 AM
Yes. He has not been with a single racket for a while, used a K90, Head Extreme Pro's and now the radical, has the teflon grommets

leoresende2007
06-20-2010, 12:40 PM
Which string does he use?

And isnīt his racket a paintjob?

baseline_monster
06-20-2010, 12:46 PM
Which string does he use?

And isnīt his racket a paintjob?

He uses a regular Youtek, on strings, not to sure, does not look like a hybrig though.

leoresende2007
06-21-2010, 05:03 PM
What is his string?

AirK
06-22-2010, 01:54 AM
He uses a regular Youtek, on strings, not to sure, does not look like a hybrig though.

Regular as in uncustomized? Or we just talking pj?

baseline_monster
06-22-2010, 02:00 AM
Regular as in uncustomized? Or we just talking pj?

He uses a stock radical but will be weighted to his liking.

leoresende2007
06-23-2010, 04:09 PM
And which string does he use?

leoresende2007
06-23-2010, 04:50 PM
http://www.goldcoast.com.au/images/uploadedfiles/editorial/pictures/2010/01/16/PERFECT-WARMUP-WIN.jpg
See the photo. Why he is using this butt cap instead of Youtek's? Is this a paintjob?

Doubles
06-23-2010, 04:53 PM
http://www.goldcoast.com.au/images/uploadedfiles/editorial/pictures/2010/01/16/PERFECT-WARMUP-WIN.jpg
See the photo. Why he is using this butt cap instead of Youtek's? Is this a paintjob?

There is a chance of a paint job, there's always a chance. However, it could be that he just liked that butt cap, or more likely, that was the one his customizer put on when he had his rackets done. It is most likely actually a YouTek however, due to the teflon grommets...

vsbabolat
06-23-2010, 06:32 PM
http://www.goldcoast.com.au/images/uploadedfiles/editorial/pictures/2010/01/16/PERFECT-WARMUP-WIN.jpg
See the photo. Why he is using this butt cap instead of Youtek's? Is this a paintjob?

No, That is the "Pro Stock" butt cap.

leoresende2007
06-24-2010, 03:47 PM
There is a chance of a paint job, there's always a chance. However, it could be that he just liked that butt cap, or more likely, that was the one his customizer put on when he had his rackets done. It is most likely actually a YouTek however, due to the teflon grommets...
What is the teflon grommets? Does it come in retail?
So, is this the same as retail or a paintjob?

dantheman
06-25-2010, 12:33 PM
from what i've heard he uses a stock head radical with added weight under the bumper and grip

Doubles
06-25-2010, 01:04 PM
What is the teflon grommets? Does it come in retail?
So, is this the same as retail or a paintjob?

Teflon Grommets are the white strips running along the fram that the strings go through. All YouTek rackets come with them stock...

leoresende2007
06-25-2010, 02:51 PM
Why his racket don't have head wrote on the bumper guard like retail?

Buckethead
06-25-2010, 05:59 PM
Why his racket don't have head wrote on the bumper guard like retail?

Why doesn't his racket have HEAD written ...You need to take English classes buddy, You are killing our language :)
Head contracted players do not use retail rackets.Head has their old molds that get a paint job for whatever its retailed.Remember that that Kid will be a big star in tennis in a couple of years and Head will push whatever product (in this case a racket)they think needs sales with the relative paint job for it.

Doubles
06-25-2010, 06:44 PM
Why doesn't his racket have HEAD written ...You need to take English classes buddy, You are killing our language :)
Head contracted players do not use retail rackets.Head has their old molds that get a paint job for whatever its retailed.Remember that that Kid will be a big star in tennis in a couple of years and Head will push whatever product (in this case a racket)they think needs sales with the relative paint job for it.
First of all, that poster was obviously foreign, so cut them some slack. It's not like every American has an amazing vocabulary/ability to put together a decently constructed sentence. Second of all, in this case, he is using a stock racket that has been modified weight wise to suit his needs...

Buckethead
06-25-2010, 06:50 PM
First of all, that poster was obviously foreign, so cut them some slack. It's not like every American has an amazing vocabulary/ability to put together a decently constructed sentence. Second of all, in this case, he is using a stock racket that has been modified weight wise to suit his needs...

Didn't you see the smile face?
BTW He is foreigner and not foreign.
You can say foreign languages,foreign currencies ...

Doubles
06-25-2010, 06:58 PM
Didn't you see the smile face?
BTW He is foreigner and not foreign.
You can say foreign languages,foreign currencies ...

Oh lord, run everyone, the grammar ****'s are here...

vsbabolat
06-25-2010, 07:01 PM
Tomic does indeed use the new YouTek Radical MP. Oh and HEAD is written on his bumper guard.

Buckethead
06-25-2010, 07:01 PM
Oh lord, run everyone, the grammar ****'s are here...
I'm sorry man, I wasn't serious.
everybody makes grammar mistakes.
Are we cool now?:)

Doubles
06-25-2010, 07:04 PM
I'm sorry man, I wasn't serious.
everybody makes grammar mistakes.
Are we cool now?:)

Haha, yeah, it's cool. I was just joking around. Good to see that unlike a lot of people here, you can take a joke...

baseline_monster
06-27-2010, 01:50 PM
Tomic does indeed use the new YouTek Radical MP. Oh and HEAD is written on his bumper guard.

Thank you!

leoresende2007
06-28-2010, 04:06 PM
Is his racket flex the same as retail?

mrmo1115
06-07-2011, 07:02 PM
Someone has told me that Tomic actually uses a TGK231.1 or .2
Is this source accurate?

vsbabolat
06-07-2011, 07:11 PM
I believe it is TGK260.2.

mrmo1115
06-07-2011, 07:14 PM
I thought Tomic had an 18x20

vsbabolat
06-07-2011, 07:25 PM
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/Tomic_2011_Aus_Open_1.jpg

mrmo1115
06-07-2011, 07:28 PM
Ah. Thanks for the clear up VS. Just a quick question since I'm fairly new to understanding the whole Pro Stock Head frame thing.

What are the current Pro Stock frames that have 18x20 patterns? For the Rad is it the TGK 231.1 and .2? What about the Prestiges?

Big John
06-25-2011, 04:11 PM
So it appears that Tomic uses a longer tgk 260.2 and Berdych uses the same but at 27 inches? Any idea on how he sets his up? I have one of these at 27.5 which I've taken all the lead off and got down to 323 strung with about even balance. When it came it had four strips of lead on either side under the bumper, heavy! Strung with banger mains, vs gut crosses and plays great, flexes nicely through the ball! Thinking I'll put some more lead back on the head?

bfactor61
06-25-2011, 05:54 PM
For people wondering about his string........it looks like a gut/alu hybrid

dr325i
06-25-2011, 10:15 PM
Teflon Grommets are the white strips running along the fram that the strings go through. All YouTek rackets come with them stock...

Ahm...not at all!
Some do, no Prestige does...

dr325i
06-25-2011, 10:20 PM
Ah. Thanks for the clear up VS. Just a quick question since I'm fairly new to understanding the whole Pro Stock Head frame thing.

What are the current Pro Stock frames that have 18x20 patterns? For the Rad is it the TGK 231.1 and .2? What about the Prestiges?

Current = youtek?
Prestige: TGK238.4 (MP); TGK237.3 (Mid 18x20)
Radical: TGK260.1 (MP)

231.x is the Microgel mold that is different for Radical from the YT.

The Prestige mold is the same as with the MG (238.x) and comes from the PT630 mold.

Bartelby
06-25-2011, 10:21 PM
The head guard seems glued onto the frame rather than part of the grommet on the extreme version of the teflon grommet. Is it so?

dr325i
06-25-2011, 10:23 PM
The head guard seems glued onto the frame rather than part of the grommet on the extreme version of the teflon grommet. Is it so?

Nope, I have the same racket(s) and it is just like the teflon grommets a part of the set.
Though, impossible to find the replacement for it...

jazar
06-25-2011, 11:20 PM
For people wondering about his string........it looks like a gut/alu hybrid

It's actually gut and RPM.

ptr
06-26-2011, 02:38 AM
Nice that he is playing standard racquet, not that Wilson's and Head's (h22 and pro ****...) secret weapons for stars. You can win with any stick :)

TheOneHander
06-26-2011, 03:34 AM
Nice that he is playing standard racquet, not that Wilson's and Head's (h22 and pro ****...) secret weapons for stars. You can win with any stick :)

He still is playing with 'pro ****'. As said by vsbabolat, it's a TGK 260.2, a pro stock version of the Radical MP that has a 16 x 19 string pattern.

Fedace
06-26-2011, 04:04 AM
Yes. He has not been with a single racket for a while, used a K90, Head Extreme Pro's and now the radical, has the teflon grommets

Youtek radical seem to agree with him. blew away Soderling

Keifers
06-26-2011, 02:09 PM
Very interesting the Tomic uses a 16x19 string pattern,

Makes sense when I consider the great variety and all-court nature of his game. He's far from being an all-power-all-the-time baseline basher.

And I imagine the 16x19 is a significant factor in those beautiful slice BHs of his.

sixone90
06-26-2011, 02:13 PM
Yes. He has not been with a single racket for a while, used a K90, Head Extreme Pro's and now the radical, has the teflon grommets

When did he use a K90?

TheOneHander
06-26-2011, 02:17 PM
Also used the FXP Prestige pj.

http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2007/01/24/va1237231087562/Bernard-Tomic-5368867.jpg

Go to post 11 in this thread to see him with an N90:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=299217

toddrobert38
06-29-2011, 04:40 PM
Call me crazy but isn't the ALU in the crosses in that picture, not the mains?

The picture below...

toddrobert38
06-29-2011, 04:47 PM
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/Tomic_2011_Aus_Open_1.jpg

this is the one i mean

Big John
08-01-2011, 06:39 PM
Does anyone know how long his 260.2 is? I hear it might be very XL ie - perhaps 27 3/4 or 28?

This would explain the easy power he is able to generate from that slappy forehand of his?

The one that I have is 27.5 and came strung with gut mains at 360 odd strung total weight. It had four strips of lead on either side under the bumper. That's a lot of lead!

I took the some of the lead out and it has very little pop, wondering if his might be pretty heavy like this also to hit it the way he does?

suppawat
08-01-2011, 10:21 PM
Does anyone know how long his 260.2 is? I hear it might be very XL ie - perhaps 27 3/4 or 28?

This would explain the easy power he is able to generate from that slappy forehand of his?

The one that I have is 27.5 and came strung with gut mains at 360 odd strung total weight. It had four strips of lead on either side under the bumper. That's a lot of lead!

I took the some of the lead out and it has very little pop, wondering if his might be pretty heavy like this also to hit it the way he does?

I have a TGK 260.2 too. This racquet can feel very weird to a lot of users who play retail racquets. With strung weight over 350g and a little head heavy, the TGK 260.2 is very flexible and become stiffer in hoop. This frame plays very similar to the old Berdych's Dunlop AG200 frame. It takes some time to get used to.

When it first arrived, it is 27" long and was strung with gut in main and alu in cross. I don't like the feel of this set up, and changed it to cheaper poly and synthetic. Then it started to shine. Like other pro stock frames, power is hidden inside a smaller sweetspot but when hitting properly it's more powerful than any other racquet. On the downside, the frame is a bit unstable in stock form but lead tape at 3/9 simply fixed the issue.

https://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pauS9TF_b09GukX2L7tmOBGZmqQUkmZOCwwbv27gkdEPB9B_ p4DG5ObUs-pRhYUVS59Nv0ys56V8/Head_TGK_260.2_Berdych_02.JPG

dgoran
08-02-2011, 04:25 AM
Little unstable in an understatement, I hit with that racket next to retail yt radical mp 18*20 and retail yt looked like mother of all stability next to flimsy 260.2.

Sweet spot is really small too in comparison to stock radical. something about 16*19 pattern probably.

All in all stock yt radical felt like a better racket...

Big John
08-02-2011, 05:29 PM
Those are very interesting observations dgoran and suppawat. That's exactly what I have noticed, flexy throat but stiffer in the head. Seems to equate to a small but great sweetspot. I have a couple of Tommy Haas Dunlops that seem to be similar, the Kristof Vliegen Tecnifibres I had were the same as was the Sricaphan Yonex? I believe Verdasco's racquet is similar.

I can only assume that as these guys ballstriking is so good, they hit the sweetspot more often than not because when you don't, the ball goes no-where! The feel is also quite harsh, I think that is the instability you refer to?

My recent experimentation with these sorts of racquets has led me to conclude that if you are going to use these types of racquets, best results seem to come from 350 gram plus overall weights, more like 360 really, with plenty of lead on the head to improve the stability. With the extra weight in the head, the throat starts to flex even more and the racquet starts to feel less harsh on off centre hits, which are inevitable against a heavy ball?

Thoughts?

BobFL
08-02-2011, 06:00 PM
Little unstable in an understatement, I hit with that racket next to retail yt radical mp 18*20 and retail yt looked like mother of all stability next to flimsy 260.2.

Sweet spot is really small too in comparison to stock radical. something about 16*19 pattern probably.

All in all stock yt radical felt like a better racket...

G, there is nothing 'stock' about your racquets, don't forget that ;)

And I do agree. 260.2 was my biggest disappointment in pro-stock frames world. What a weird racquet that was.

Big John
08-02-2011, 10:20 PM
So its not just me then, the 260.2 is a different racquet. I was pretty excited about it and when I got it, at 27.5 covered in lead, it played pretty well. But without the lead (not a couple of strips, more like four on each side) it struggles big time for pop and stability?

I was hoping it would play a bit like a bigger prestige mid, sort of a halfway house between the 238.2 and the 237.2 but it just doesn't feel as stable and solid without a lot of weight..

TaihtDuhShaat
08-02-2011, 10:27 PM
That's because a pro stock racquet without lead on the hoop has a SW of ~290. An extended pro stock without lead is even less stable. The majority of retail frames have more stable hoops than an un-customized pro stock.

Big John
08-07-2011, 06:23 PM
The swingweight wasn't the problem, it had what would normally be plenty of lead on the head. It is the somewhat different flex (flexy throat, stiff in the hoop) that made the racquet play very differently in my opinion. I would have I'm guessing 30 pro stock or players racquets at home of all different lengths, brands, head sizes and flexes. The only ones that have played anywhere like this were the Vliegen Tecnifibre (he strings ridiculously loose, may this is why), the Scricaphan Yonex and the Haas Dunlop. I don't think you can generalise on 'pro stock racquets.' They can be and often are very different.

From what I understand, this setup allows for maximum spin (flexy throat, stiff head) and from my observations, this may well be correct. The only problem is a tiny sweetspot, any deviation from which leads to harsh twisting in the racquet head, presumably unless overcome by large amounts of lead to stabilise the head?

When hitting against a 'heavy' ball, the inevitable occasional mishit seems to land really short, as opposed to your more normal setup where you are still punished but not quite as much. I'd equate it to hitting blades as opposed to cavity backs at golf, the difference being that a golf ball is hopefully stationary! :)

movdqa
08-07-2011, 06:53 PM
I received one of these last week. It came at about 13 ounces. It felt like a brick. You point the racquet where you want the ball to go and it goes there though with not as much pace as with stiffer frames.

I thought that comfort was excellent. No shock or vibration. But quite different than anything that I have hit with in a long time.

Played three sets and did not do as well as I usually do with the K88s or the 238.4. I found it harder to hit heavy topspin shots with the 260.2. I played yesterday and it was easier to hit with more topspin but I ultmately played with the 238.4.

I have another one which should arrive this week (from one of the posters here) and I will play around with setups to see if I want to settle on the 260.2.

dr325i
08-07-2011, 08:48 PM
I received one of these last week. It came at about 13 ounces. It felt like a brick. You point the racquet where you want the ball to go and it goes there though with not as much pace as with stiffer frames.

I thought that comfort was excellent. No shock or vibration. But quite different than anything that I have hit with in a long time.

Played three sets and did not do as well as I usually do with the K88s or the 238.4. I found it harder to hit heavy topspin shots with the 260.2. I played yesterday and it was easier to hit with more topspin but I ultmately played with the 238.4.

I have another one which should arrive this week (from one of the posters here) and I will play around with setups to see if I want to settle on the 260.2.

The second one that is on the way should be easy to customize as it will arrive at 325g (11.5 oz) strung. I received MANY compliments playing with it that it produced a massive top-spin. Maybe you could not generate enough head speed with a 370g racket?

Big John
08-07-2011, 10:48 PM
I agree with you that the 260.2 felt very solid around 370, that was how mine came as well but that is a lot of weight to move, particularly when much of it is in the head! :)

movdqa
08-08-2011, 03:15 AM
My KPS88s are heavier than the 260.2 but my guess is that the swingweight of the 260.2 is much higher so it could be the sw. I have also used the lighter frame for the last two months and it may be that I am more used to that weight now.

At any rate it is interesting to play around with these things and different setups.