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Tina
07-05-2010, 10:21 PM
Dear TTW Posters,

I've got several emails (like the following email) to buy my items via craigslist.com. I wonder this person is a serious buyer or not. Any advice!! Thank you.

Tina

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Hello Seller,
I will like to show interest in buying your item ,My name is Jeremi Moses
from florida .. I came across your item and i have really read all the
description of the item and I'm very much interested to buy it
I will like to ask you some few questions..
1.How long have you owned it?
2.Any available photo?
3.How much are you asking for it?
4.Do you accept a (Cashier Check/Money Order)as a mode of payment?
5.Get back to me with your Full name,address and Phone # to further our
discussion.
Note that you don't need to worry about shipping as i have a private
shipping company that will take care of the shipping and delivery of the
item once payment is been received by you.
Mr.Jeremi

ProgressoR
07-05-2010, 10:42 PM
Tina this is a scam. He says item instead of what it is. And he wants all your personal details.

However if you choose to reply to him, you might as well provide him with your bank account number and all your account passwords.

Tina
07-05-2010, 10:46 PM
Tina this is a scam. He says item instead of what it is. And he wants all your personal details.

However if you choose to reply to him, you might as well provide him with your bank account number and all your account passwords.

Thank you for your reply. You save my life:) -T

Lakers4Life
07-05-2010, 10:48 PM
I agree, Unless they actually state the item or service you are selling, don't bother answering them. Especially when they have a some odd link.

Most replies to a Craiglist ad will ask more normal questions pertaining to the item.

Use common sense.

Hoons54
07-05-2010, 10:48 PM
i recently encountered something like this while trying to sell my badminton gear on craigslist. The buyer sent me a check for ridiculous amount.... 2 thousand and change. I told him I'm going to rip up the check and told him to go f@%$ himself/herself and go burn in hell for trying to scam me. Most likely it's one of nigerian scammers....

Tina
07-05-2010, 10:49 PM
I agree, Unless they actually state the item or service you are selling, don't bother answering them. Especially when they have a some odd link.

Most replies to a Craiglist ad will ask more normal questions pertaining to the item.

Use common sense.

I received several emails with links too.

Larrysümmers
07-05-2010, 10:55 PM
i recently encountered something like this while trying to sell my badminton gear on craigslist. The buyer sent me a check for ridiculous amount.... 2 thousand and change. I told him I'm going to rip up the check and told him to go f@%$ himself/herself and go burn in hell for trying to scam me. Most likely it's one of nigerian scammers....

i am always getting emails from them. they are amusing.

slice bh compliment
07-05-2010, 10:56 PM
Jeremi Moses/ Hahah, sounds EXACTLY like my good friend Nigel Seladu. I've had good internet dealings with him! He's in Florida now? Wow! Last we spoke, he was still back in Nigeria. He's evidently really well-connected over there.

Seemed I was the only one to actually answer his emails. Maybe he changed his name to Jeremi to appeal to the US boyband culture, and Moses to add some credibility.

Anyway, I hope you know I'm kidding around, just making an oblique Murray Hewitt reference (not Andy and Lleyton, but the mgr of Flight of the Conchords).

Best of luck selling your....item.

ProgressoR
07-05-2010, 11:01 PM
Thank you for your reply. You save my life:) -T

You are most welcome, all I ask for in return is your undying devotion.

Oh, and your bank account details :)

Tina
07-05-2010, 11:02 PM
You are most welcome, all I ask for in return is your undying devotion.

Oh, and your bank account details :)

LOL. How about making you a pie:)?

And song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9I0yXl_oAQ

Tina
07-05-2010, 11:03 PM
Jeremi Moses/ Hahah, sounds EXACTLY like my good friend Nigel Seladu. I've had good internet dealings with him! He's in Florida now? Wow! Last we spoke, he was still back in Nigeria. He's evidently really well-connected over there.

Seemed I was the only one to actually answer his emails. Maybe he changed his name to Jeremi to appeal to the US boyband culture, and Moses to add some credibility.

Anyway, I hope you know I'm kidding around, just making an oblique Murray Hewitt reference (not Andy and Lleyton, but the mgr of Flight of the Conchords).

Best of luck selling your....item.

I know you are joking with me, a well-known boxer-SBC:)

ProgressoR
07-05-2010, 11:07 PM
LOL. How about making you a pie:)?

And song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9I0yXl_oAQ

I am partial to cream pies, would never turn down an offer of those.

Tina
07-05-2010, 11:31 PM
I am partial to cream pies, would never turn down an offer of those.

Sure, message received. Let's see if there is any chance, Alright?:)

ProgressoR
07-05-2010, 11:35 PM
^^ Tina you are very kind.

Lakers4Life
07-06-2010, 06:17 AM
I received several emails with links too.

The big tip off is the "From" name never matches the Salutation name.

Also Craigslist ad links always have and area (location) in between the domain name and ad number.
I.E. losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/spo/1827941995.html

chollyred
07-06-2010, 06:43 AM
I sold a guitar on Craigslist this past Christmas. I couldn't believe all the scam and spam emails I got. One thing I learned was NEVER accept a Cashiers Check or Money Order for anything sold as they are almost always faked.

Deal with local buyers only, and make sure any checks clear before sending anything anywhere. If possible, deal in cash. Cash is king.

The experience was so painful, I don't know that I'll ever use Craigslist as a seller again. I have had two good (cash) transactions as a buyer.

r2473
07-06-2010, 06:48 AM
I am partial to cream pies, would never turn down an offer of those.

:oops:

:shock:

:)

Rockitdog
07-06-2010, 07:03 AM
Craigslist is just terrible. I listed a racquet for sale and got all kinds of junk Spam from people for services that had nothing to do with my item for sale. Its becoming a joke!

ProgressoR
07-06-2010, 07:05 AM
:oops:

:shock:

:)

I trust you are also a fan? :)

Photoshop
07-06-2010, 09:14 AM
http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams
always, always, always deal locally. and cash only! no exceptions.

also remove the reply-to email address and just put your phone number in the ad. that significantly cuts down the number of potential scammers (to almost none) and you'll sell your item faster.

goober
07-06-2010, 09:25 AM
Dear TTW Posters,

I've got several emails (like the following email) to buy my items via craigslist.com. I wonder this person is a serious buyer or not. Any advice!! Thank you.

Tina

------

Hello Seller,
I will like to show interest in buying your item ,My name is Jeremi Moses
from florida .. I came across your item and i have really read all the
description of the item and I'm very much interested to buy it
I will like to ask you some few questions..
1.How long have you owned it?
2.Any available photo?
3.How much are you asking for it?
4.Do you accept a (Cashier Check/Money Order)as a mode of payment?
5.Get back to me with your Full name,address and Phone # to further our
discussion.
Note that you don't need to worry about shipping as i have a private
shipping company that will take care of the shipping and delivery of the
item once payment is been received by you.
Mr.Jeremi


I am not sure it can get more obvious than that. Complete form letter-

1. "I will like to show interest in buying your item" What kind of english is that? Nigerian english-lol?
2. Never mentions what you are selling or asks relelvant details.
3. Cashiers check.- big no no
4. Has a private shipping company- seriously? Maybe its because uh they don't want to give out their foreign address?
5. Mr. Jeremi? Who calls themselves Mr. and inserts their first name not their surname?

jswinf
07-06-2010, 09:27 AM
Jeremi Moses/ Hahah, sounds EXACTLY like my good friend Nigel Seladu. I've had good internet dealings with him! He's in Florida now? Wow! Last we spoke, he was still back in Nigeria. He's evidently really well-connected over there.

Seemed I was the only one to actually answer his emails. Maybe he changed his name to Jeremi to appeal to the US boyband culture, and Moses to add some credibility.

.

Sounds like you banked a few million helping the poor guy transfer his fortune and now you're living a life of luxury. That'll teach the rest of us not to be so cynical. I'll get online right away and post my bank account and social security numbers and offer to help those guys out, hope I'm not too late to cash in...:(

athiker
07-06-2010, 09:39 AM
A few things I do.

I have an email address I only use for Craigslist and any other site that I'm a bit cautious with. The name in the email address has nothing to do with my real name. When I send an email from that account the only name seen by the other person is my email address and my first name. I actually had to put my first name and then a dot in the space where my last name would go in my email account profile options to get this to work.

Typically the first email I receive is a general inquiry about whether the item is still available, and often asks if I can "hold it" for them. If its obvious spam, then I flag it with my spam blocker...end of story. If not, then my first response is a general one.

Typically I state something like:

Yes, it is still available. There has been some interest but no one has actually come out and paid me. The first cash in my hand takes it as its really the only way I can do it.

I live on the West side of (town name) out (main road,not my street) road. I work from home and check my email frequently so just let me know when you will be able to come out and I will email you my cell phone number and you can call me to confirm that I still have it and get directions.

If we set up an appointment for a few days ahead, just remember to give me a quick call on my cell phone to remind me before you leave to come out that day. I obviously won't sell it out from under you when we have confirmed you are on your way but it may have been sold earlier and I don't want you to waste a trip.

Thank you for your interest,

(first name)

For anyone that seriously wants the item these small steps are not going to dissuade them. For the others, well, it seems to be just enough for them not to bother, there are plenty of other fish in the sea. Most never even get to the point of asking for my cell phone number.

I've sold everything from my car and used appliances to used strollers with no problems so far. I think a key is I work from home and state that upfront so one I'm very flexible re: meeting times and two there isn't much point in following up to get a time when I might actually be away from home to attempt to steal something desirable, since I'm here all the time.

Finally, I also have a separate account at an online photo hosting site that I only use for forums, craigslist and other public uses. I typically put links in my ads to better higher quality photos that I host there. A little marketing goes a long way.

Cindysphinx
07-06-2010, 10:19 AM
Friend of the family was bilked in a Nigerian scam. The guy was about 70 and had dementia. He kept responding to the e-mails, believing he was making legit business deals. By the time the family found out about it, the house had been mortgaged to the hilt and the savings were tapped out. Even after the wife and kids went to court to make sure dad couldn't keep sending money to these people, he was angry that his family had ruined his business.

Poor people. I know they had to sell the family home to get whatever was left after the mortgages. The guy died a few years later. Nicest guy you'd ever want to know before he became ill. He'd be sick at heart to know he had impoverished his own family in this way.

zapvor
07-06-2010, 11:26 AM
i find craigslist to be hit and miss.

Hoons54
07-06-2010, 02:35 PM
Friend of the family was bilked in a Nigerian scam. The guy was about 70 and had dementia. He kept responding to the e-mails, believing he was making legit business deals. By the time the family found out about it, the house had been mortgaged to the hilt and the savings were tapped out. Even after the wife and kids went to court to make sure dad couldn't keep sending money to these people, he was angry that his family had ruined his business.

Poor people. I know they had to sell the family home to get whatever was left after the mortgages. The guy died a few years later. Nicest guy you'd ever want to know before he became ill. He'd be sick at heart to know he had impoverished his own family in this way.

those scammers need to be stoned!!!

OrangeOne
07-06-2010, 02:44 PM
In some ways we should be somewhat thankful that this style of internet scamming hasn't yet truly evolved - it's still pretty easy to spot for most.

When it does evolve (eg. the scammers start paying people with english skills), there will be bigger problems, and many more of them.

As others have said - cash is king. If you're worried about the transaction or even if you're not and you live alone, meet at a local McDonalds!

Even if I am completing a sale at home, I never, ever invite the person inside, and rarely to the doorstep. Setup the item outside, have your receipt and a small amount of change with you.

Cindysphinx
07-06-2010, 05:12 PM
Yeah, my sister was going to sell her car a few years back. She was wondering what to do about the test drive for people who responded to her ad.

I said she should write down driver's license info and hand over the keys. She was thinking she should go with the person to make sure they don't steal or abuse the car. I was thinking she should be more concerned that they might steal or abuse *her.*

Tina
07-06-2010, 05:54 PM
Yeah, my sister was going to sell her car a few years back. She was wondering what to do about the test drive for people who responded to her ad.

I said she should write down driver's license info and hand over the keys. She was thinking she should go with the person to make sure they don't steal or abuse the car. I was thinking she should be more concerned that they might steal or abuse *her.*

You bet, Cindy. I am a very careful lady and always watch out for troubles:)

Tina
07-06-2010, 05:55 PM
I am not sure it can get more obvious than that. Complete form letter-

1. "I will like to show interest in buying your item" What kind of english is that? Nigerian english-lol?
2. Never mentions what you are selling or asks relelvant details.
3. Cashiers check.- big no no
4. Has a private shipping company- seriously? Maybe its because uh they don't want to give out their foreign address?
5. Mr. Jeremi? Who calls themselves Mr. and inserts their first name not their surname?

That's funny. Thanks, anyway!!

Tina
07-06-2010, 05:57 PM
I sold a guitar on Craigslist this past Christmas. I couldn't believe all the scam and spam emails I got. One thing I learned was NEVER accept a Cashiers Check or Money Order for anything sold as they are almost always faked.

Deal with local buyers only, and make sure any checks clear before sending anything anywhere. If possible, deal in cash. Cash is king.

The experience was so painful, I don't know that I'll ever use Craigslist as a seller again. I have had two good (cash) transactions as a buyer.

Thanks for your advice-Cash only!!!

Tina
07-06-2010, 06:14 PM
A few things I do.

I have an email address I only use for Craigslist and any other site that I'm a bit cautious with. The name in the email address has nothing to do with my real name. When I send an email from that account the only name seen by the other person is my email address and my first name. I actually had to put my first name and then a dot in the space where my last name would go in my email account profile options to get this to work.

Typically the first email I receive is a general inquiry about whether the item is still available, and often asks if I can "hold it" for them. If its obvious spam, then I flag it with my spam blocker...end of story. If not, then my first response is a general one.

Typically I state something like:



For anyone that seriously wants the item these small steps are not going to dissuade them. For the others, well, it seems to be just enough for them not to bother, there are plenty of other fish in the sea. Most never even get to the point of asking for my cell phone number.

I've sold everything from my car and used appliances to used strollers with no problems so far. I think a key is I work from home and state that upfront so one I'm very flexible re: meeting times and two there isn't much point in following up to get a time when I might actually be away from home to attempt to steal something desirable, since I'm here all the time.

Finally, I also have a separate account at an online photo hosting site that I only use for forums, craigslist and other public uses. I typically put links in my ads to better higher quality photos that I host there. A little marketing goes a long way.

Pictures does help a bit? Thanks for your advice!

OrangeOne
07-06-2010, 07:43 PM
Yeah, my sister was going to sell her car a few years back. She was wondering what to do about the test drive for people who responded to her ad.

I said she should write down driver's license info and hand over the keys. She was thinking she should go with the person to make sure they don't steal or abuse the car. I was thinking she should be more concerned that they might steal or abuse *her.*

A key-swap is never a bad idea - you hold their keys while they're gone. It's not fool-proof - the person can attend in a stolen car, but if you've got their phone number, sighted a driver's licence - you're in much better shape than you could be.

My friend's younger brother had exactly what you describe happen to him. Two guys came to test drive his hotted-up Nissan, valued at about $15 or $20k, and he went with them. They drove for a bit, I think got out to look at the car a bit, and then from memory beat him up a bit and left him by the side of the road, and then drove off stealing his car.

It's often not worth the risk, and I'd be a lot more cautious than I already am were I not a tall, broad-shouldered male. A looot more cautious.

Dominik
07-06-2010, 08:33 PM
Definitely a scam! :) Only local, don't take the risk.

slicefox
07-06-2010, 10:25 PM
ain't it craigslist.ORG ???

tennytive
07-07-2010, 04:51 AM
Too bad you couldn't take his money and then tell him to pick up his item in the Craigslist Warehouse. :)

I've bought and sold many items on CL and it's been a good experience every time. I've sold expensive camera equipment, and bought laptops and even my car with no problems, so it does work if it's done the right way.

Cash transaction face to face in a public place.

Fearsome Forehand
07-07-2010, 07:01 AM
Frankly, anyone over 14 years of age who has to wonder if that email is from a serious buyer is too naive to being doing business on the internet with strangers.

I have done quite a few (10?) cross country deals on CL (involving tennis rackets of course) both as a buyer and seller (about half by personal check and half by PP.) Made out well in every instance.

As long as you are reasonably cautious about who you are dealing with, you will be fine. (Same as when doing business here.) Check out the other person as best you can on the internet, google their email, etc. Confirm you re dealing with an adult inside the USA, allow checks (and money orders) to clear, ship to PP confirmed USA addresses, etc

CL is infamous for money order scams; most will be for big ticket items like cars or computers. The classic one is the scammer will send a money order in excess of the purchase price and tell the seller to reimburse the overage less some amount for their trouble. In example, a scammer sends the victim a $2000 money order for a computer, they had agreed to $1000. The scammer says, gee, my secretary made a mistake, sorry, wire me $900 and keep the extra $100 for your trouble. Victims ships the computer and reimburses the $900 difference. A week later the phony money order bounces and the victim is out the computer and the money. The victim is an idiot but you would be amazed how many people have fallen for this type of scam.

Cars for sale well below book value are another classic CL scam. Usually they are in a different country and the seller requests a money order or wire transfer for the non-existent car.

There are local scammers on CL too so you just have to be smart about dealing with strangers. Just use common sense and don't paint yourself into corners.

Cindysphinx
07-07-2010, 09:14 AM
A key-swap is never a bad idea - you hold their keys while they're gone. It's not fool-proof - the person can attend in a stolen car, but if you've got their phone number, sighted a driver's licence - you're in much better shape than you could be.

My friend's younger brother had exactly what you describe happen to him. Two guys came to test drive his hotted-up Nissan, valued at about $15 or $20k, and he went with them. They drove for a bit, I think got out to look at the car a bit, and then from memory beat him up a bit and left him by the side of the road, and then drove off stealing his car.

It's often not worth the risk, and I'd be a lot more cautious than I already am were I not a tall, broad-shouldered male. A looot more cautious.

Yeah, I think the risk isn't worth it. Before I put my car up for sale, I called my insurance agent and reinstituted the comprehensive coverage, which I had dropped. That way if it was stolen, I flat-out would not care. I guess there would always be the risk that the person taking it for a test drive could run up some parking tickets, but that would be hard to do in 30 minutes. If they weren't back in 30 minutes and weren't answering the cell phone, my plan was to call the cops and report it stolen.

That check scam thing is amazing. People are *still* falling for it. I guess the problem is that your bank can no longer put a long hold on dodgy checks, so the depositor believes the check has "cleared" when it really has not.

Ziva
07-07-2010, 10:22 AM
I bought a DVD player off of Craigslist and would echo what others have said - cash only and exchange in a public place (Starbucks worked for us).

Tina
07-07-2010, 12:29 PM
Definitely a scam! :) Only local, don't take the risk.

You bet, Dominik. You know what I found out. My computer is getting slower after I registered at Craigslist.org:neutral:. I am so happy that my landlord is interested in my mattress. I also got another call from a person in my apt complex for my HDTV. I also called a used hand furniture store to estimate my items. It's getting pretty good and hopefully I have them sold out by end of this month:)

PS. I am still patiently waiting for my thread:)

slewisoh
07-07-2010, 06:19 PM
We've had good luck selling through Craigslist. We were contemplating demoing our kids' 10 year old playset but knew we would have trouble getting rid of the pressure treated wood. We listed it on Craigslist for $250 and sold it within 8 hours. And the buyer dismantled it and hauled it away. Shoot, I would have paid them to take it away!

Also sold some furniture, Longaberger baskets, and a huge gym set.

OrangeOne
07-07-2010, 06:29 PM
Shoot, I would have paid them to take it away!

Also sold some furniture, Longaberger baskets, and a huge gym set.

I've sold stuff on **** for a cent or $5 that I really just wanted removed, it works well for everyone. I had a mate buy thousands of pavers for $22 on the same deal - he had to remove them from the person's place.

As long as the ads are honest, it really can be win-win.

Bud
07-07-2010, 06:41 PM
You bet, Dominik. You know what I found out. My computer is getting slower after I registered at Craigslist.org:neutral:. I am so happy that my landlord is interested in my mattress. I also got another call from a person in my apt complex for my HDTV. I also called a used hand furniture store to estimate my items. It's getting pretty good and hopefully I have them sold out by end of this month:)

PS. I am still patiently waiting for my thread:)

You're selling everything... You planning on moving?

Tina
07-07-2010, 06:46 PM
You're selling everything... You planning on moving?

Yes, Bud. I will be either in California, India, or New Jersey soon. God takes me where I should be for my new destiny. Wish me luck.:)

JoelDali
07-07-2010, 06:55 PM
Good luck Tina!

http://www.petersburgkyfire.com/images/bunny_waving_wbasket.jpg

Photoshop
07-07-2010, 07:20 PM
... My computer is getting slower after I registered at Craigslist.org:neutral:...
Tina, it's not craigslist that's making your computer slow... craigslist is a legitimate classified ad website and it's one of the most-visited websites in the world. Registering on craigslist isn't going to install anything on your computer nor is it going to damage anything.

We've had good luck selling through Craigslist. We were contemplating demoing our kids' 10 year old playset but knew we would have trouble getting rid of the pressure treated wood. We listed it on Craigslist for $250 and sold it within 8 hours. And the buyer dismantled it and hauled it away. Shoot, I would have paid them to take it away!

Also sold some furniture, Longaberger baskets, and a huge gym set.
Agreed. I've sold 100s of things on craigslist - everything from george foreman grill to sofa to computer parts to useless junk that's too heavy to take out of the apartment. If you use it right, craigslist can be a great tool.

Bud
07-07-2010, 07:32 PM
Yes, Bud. I will be either in California, India, or New Jersey soon. God takes me where I should be for my new destiny. Wish me luck.:)

Namaste! :)

Don't forget your friends here at TT and check in once in a while :grin:

Tina
07-07-2010, 10:02 PM
Namaste! :)

Don't forget your friends here at TT and check in once in a while :grin:

Of course, I will try my best:). You were one of few mature posters that I met here six month ago. You, Jolly, Samester, Nashville Folks, Cindy, Hero Suresh, and Darling Chopin are constantly on my mind when I am entering TTW forum each time. Let's keep in touch:)!!

kimbahpnam
07-07-2010, 10:07 PM
reply with an F-U

Tina
07-07-2010, 10:09 PM
Good luck Tina!

http://www.tjgraphix.com/upload/image_main_b/bunny_waving_1.gif

Thank for the picture, Joel. I like it:) -T

Tina
07-07-2010, 10:14 PM
I have two appointments coming up tomorrow for items. Hopefully, I get rid of my heavy furniture by this weekend:) -T

Bud
07-07-2010, 10:55 PM
I have two appointments coming up tomorrow for items. Hopefully, I get rid of my heavy furniture by this weekend:) -T

Just be careful with whom you let into your apartment :)

Blinkism
07-07-2010, 11:30 PM
Jeremi Moses/ Hahah, sounds EXACTLY like my good friend Nigel Seladu.

http://inspiredcanoe.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/jemaine.jpg

O RLY?

Tina
07-08-2010, 10:23 AM
Just be careful with whom you let into your apartment :)

Of Course.:)

zapvor
07-08-2010, 10:26 AM
why you moving

Tina
07-08-2010, 10:27 AM
why you moving

Hey, Why you are asking me this question? You are not my boyfriend:)

zapvor
07-08-2010, 10:32 AM
.....ok.....

Tina
07-08-2010, 11:33 AM
.....ok.....

Hey Zapvor, I am joking with you:). If you really want to know about it, just sent me an email ok. -T

zapvor
07-08-2010, 12:12 PM
whats your email

Tina
07-08-2010, 12:14 PM
whats your email

Just sent me the message via TTW email. Thanks. -T

Tina
07-09-2010, 10:24 PM
I am so excited for my first yard sale tomorrow. All items are tagged with prices. I and my neighbor are going to start selling our stuff at 7:00 am. Wish me luck, all of you.

With love,

Tina

Bud
07-10-2010, 04:46 AM
I am so excited for my first yard sale tomorrow. All items are tagged with prices. I and my neighbor are going to start selling our stuff at 7:00 am. Wish me luck, all of you.

With love,

Tina

Good luck! :)