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TripleB
07-19-2010, 10:59 AM
Over the past couple of months I've demoed numerous racquets in hopes of finding a cross between my old POG mid (great spin potential and perfect power) and my current LiquidMetal Radical Midplus (fantastic control, lighter weight, great maneuverability, and solid feel). During those months I've demoed 12 racquets. Here are my 2 sentence thoughts on each:

Babolat Pure Storm: This racquet offered much better than average stability and the sweetspot seemed huge. When playing with this racquet however there seemed to be a 'disconnected' feel between the head and the stringbed which seemed to give me poor control and make me wonder where the ball actually contacted the strings.

Yonex RDiS 200 Lite: There was great power and spin to be had with this racquet which gave me fantastic control in singles and doubles. The problem I had with this racquet was that there didn't seem to be very much stability so it got pushed around the court very easily, which was noticeable most when returning hard first serves.

Dunlop 4D 300 Tour: This racquet is an amazing racquet because, in a light package, it gives you pinpoint control, a fantastic flexy feel, whipable balance, and truly incredible touch at the net. The two things that kept this racquet out of my bag are the lack of spin potential and there wasn't quite enough power for me.

Wilson BLX Six-One Tour: An extremely solid racquet from everywhere on the court and very fun to play with for a set. But over a two set match it was just too much racquet for me.

Wilson KBlade 98: The KBlade 98 is an awesome racquet that offers great plowthrough ( for a lighter racquet), superior control, fantastic spin (especially for a 18x20 ) , perfect power on groundstrokes and serves, and better than average maneuverability. I loved this racquet except for the fact that every time I played with it my elbow ached for days (and is still tender)

Head YouTek Prestige Pro: The maneuverability and touch with this racquet is outstanding. Other than that I didn't find much I liked about this racquet because of the lack of spin and inconsistent power I got with it.

Volkl C10 Pro: I really liked the look and feel of this racquet and the specs lined up perfectly with what I was looking for in a new racquet. I'm not sure why but I could never really find the sweetspot with this racquet, it lacked a little spin (for me), and I couldn't find consistent depth on my shots.

Wilson BLX Six-One 16x18: This racquet has amazing spin potential (loved watching my opponents eyes when groundstrokes hit), pretty good maneuverability, spot on control and above average power. I liked this racquet and probably 10 years ago could play with this racquet but now I prefer a bit lighter racquet to use.

Volkl DNX 10 Mid: This racquet had a very solid feel. The demoed weighed in at 13 gram over the specs show at T-W and it was only 5 points headlight so in my opinion the PowerBridge 10 Mid is a much better choice of the two.

Volkl PowerBridge 10 Mid: Almost as solid as the BLX 6-1 Tour with much better maneuverability, tremendous control, pop on the serve, and was a lot of fun to play with. I wasn't able to whip my forehand quickly enough to have success going crosscourt so I decided against this one.

Dunlop 4D 300: I had a fun time with this racquet because of the great maneuverability, excellent topspin, heavy slice, and put away power. It lacked stability in the upper head area so I added some lead tape but it still wasn't stable enough for me to warrant a purchase.

Boris Becker Delta Core London: This racquet had the Volkl flex which led to fantastic stability (for such a light racquet), power level, control, and I had decent success with it. The 16x19 string pattern on this one is very tight so I wasn't able to get the topspin I needed with it to play my type of game.

Prince Ozone Tour: This racquet offers the best combination of all the positive aspects of the racquets mentioned above. Amazing spin potential (best of any of the racquets), huge feeling sweetspot which leads to a solid feel from all over the racquet face, perfect power potential on groundstrokes/serves/volleys, excellent touch at net (never thought I'd say that about an 'O' racquet), easy whipability (crosscourt forehand deep into the opponents court may become my new favorite shot), many many many options on the return of serve, easy on the arm, incredible control (especially depth control...an area I've struggled with lately). This is my new racquet of choice.

I purchased three Prince Ozone Tour racquets over the weekend (from T-W of course). One with soft grommets strung with WeissCannon TurboTwist mains and Forten Sweet crosses. One with soft grommets strung with WeissCannon Scorpion mains and Gosen OG Sheep Micro crosses. One with hard grommets strung with WeissCannon Scorpion mains and Gosen OG Sheep Micro crosses.

I also ordered a set of Mantis Comfort poly and Solinco Outlast poly to try in case I don’t like the feel of either of the WeissCannon strings.

Thank you for your patients over the past several months and your help in narrowing down my demo choices.

I am through with demoing racquets for a loooooooooooooong time (easy to say when you don't have any money to order any more) and will be sticking with the Prince Ozone Tour!!!

TripleB

GameSetMatch
07-19-2010, 11:08 AM
Your font choice is harder to read. Can you reformat your post? :)

bayoozen33
07-19-2010, 11:25 AM
How many times have you switched your main racket in your life? Not trying to be a smart a**, but seriously just curious.

JackB1
07-19-2010, 11:30 AM
I played the Ozone Tour for a while and it's a good all around choice. One of few racquets with a lot of power in a flexy racquet. Only thing I didn't like about it was it's very thin beam which lead to a little instability at times for me.

BC1
07-19-2010, 11:31 AM
BBB,
Congratulations on your choice. I'm sure it's a relief! I've read many great reviews about the Ozone Tour - enjoy it!

JackB1
07-19-2010, 11:48 AM
BTW, the Gamma Supreme orange overgrips look great on the Ozone Tour.

Gemini
07-19-2010, 11:56 AM
Over the past couple of months I've demoed numerous racquets in hopes of finding a cross between my old POG mid (great spin potential and perfect power) and my current LiquidMetal Radical Midplus (fantastic control, lighter weight, great maneuverability, and solid feel). During those months I've demoed 12 racquets. Here are my 2 sentence thoughts on each:

Babolat Pure Storm: This racquet offered much better than average stability and the sweetspot seemed huge. When playing with this racquet however there seemed to be a 'disconnected' feel between the head and the stringbed which seemed to give me poor control and make me wonder where the ball actually contacted the strings.

Yonex RDiS 200 Lite: There was great power and spin to be had with this racquet which gave me fantastic control in singles and doubles. The problem I had with this racquet was that there didn't seem to be very much stability so it got pushed around the court very easily, which was noticeable most when returning hard first serves.

Dunlop 4D 300 Tour: This racquet is an amazing racquet because, in a light package, it gives you pinpoint control, a fantastic flexy feel, whipable balance, and truly incredible touch at the net. The two things that kept this racquet out of my bag are the lack of spin potential and there wasn't quite enough power for me.

Wilson BLX Six-One Tour: An extremely solid racquet from everywhere on the court and very fun to play with for a set. But over a two set match it was just too much racquet for me.

Wilson KBlade 98: The KBlade 98 is an awesome racquet that offers great plowthrough ( for a lighter racquet), superior control, fantastic spin (especially for a 16x18 ) , perfect power on groundstrokes and serves, and better than average maneuverability. I loved this racquet except for the fact that every time I played with it my elbow ached for days (and is still tender)

Head YouTek Prestige Pro: The maneuverability and touch with this racquet is outstanding. Other than that I didn't find much I liked about this racquet because of the lack of spin and inconsistent power I got with it.

Wilson BLX Six-One 16x18: This racquet has amazing spin potential (loved watching my opponents eyes when groundstrokes hit), pretty good maneuverability, spot on control and above average power. I liked this racquet and probably 10 years ago could play with this racquet but now I prefer a bit lighter racquet to use.

Volkl DNX 10 Mid: This racquet had a very solid feel. The demoed weighed in at 13 gram over the specs show at T-W and it was only 5 points headlight so in my opinion the PowerBridge 10 Mid is a much better choice of the two.

Volkl PowerBridge 10 Mid: Almost as solid as the BLX 6-1 Tour with much better maneuverability, tremendous control, pop on the serve, and was a lot of fun to play with. I wasn't able to whip my forehand quickly enough to have success going crosscourt so I decided against this one.

Dunlop 4D 300: I had a fun time with this racquet because of the great maneuverability, excellent topspin, heavy slice, and put away power. It lacked stability in the upper head area so I added some lead tape but it still wasn't stable enough for me to warrant a purchase.

Boris Becker Delta Core London: This racquet had the Volkl flex which led to fantastic stability (for such a light racquet), power level, control, and I had decent success with it. The 16x19 string pattern on this one is very tight so I wasn't able to get the topspin I needed with it to play my type of game.

Prince Ozone Tour: This racquet offers the best combination of all the positive aspects of the racquets mentioned above. Amazing spin potential (best of any of the racquets), huge feeling sweetspot which leads to a solid feel from all over the racquet face, perfect power potential on groundstrokes/serves/volleys, excellent touch at net (never thought I'd say that about an 'O' racquet), easy whipability (crosscourt forehand deep into the opponents court may become my new favorite shot), many many many options on the return of serve, easy on the arm, incredible control (especially depth control...an area I've struggled with lately). This is my new racquet of choice.

I purchased three Prince Ozone Tour racquets over the weekend (from T-W of course). One with soft grommets strung with WeissCannon TurboTwist mains and Forten Sweet crosses. One with soft grommets strung with WeissCannon Scorpion mains and Gosen OG Sheep Micro crosses. One with hard grommets strung with WeissCannon Scorpion mains and Gosen OG Sheep Micro crosses.

I also ordered a set of Mantis Comfort poly and Solinco Outlast poly to try in case I don’t like the feel of either of the WeissCannon strings.

Thank you for your patients over the past several months and your help in narrowing down my demo choices.

I am through with demoing racquets for a loooooooooooooong time (easy to say when you don't have any money to order any more) and will be sticking with the Prince Ozone Tour!!!

TripleB

TripleB,

I don't remember but were you a former Fischer Pro No. 1 user some time ago? I ask because if you were then it might be worth looking at the Ozone Tour more closely since I'm a former Pro No. 1 user.

JackB1
07-19-2010, 12:02 PM
former Fischer users should check out the Pacific XForce Pro.

Mansewerz
07-19-2010, 12:07 PM
Great! Btw, what didn't you like about the C10 pro? Was the weight an issue?

TripleB
07-19-2010, 12:24 PM
Your font choice is harder to read. Can you reformat your post? :)

Sorry about that.

How many times have you switched your main racket in your life? Not trying to be a smart a**, but seriously just curious.

In 38 years of playing tennis, truly switching my main racquet, not including string changes, not taking into account all of the demos, I would guesstimate about 17.5 times.

I played the Ozone Tour for a while and it's a good all around choice. One of few racquets with a lot of power in a flexy racquet. Only thing I didn't like about it was it's very thin beam which lead to a little instability at times for me.

The thin beam (17mm to 23mm) was one of the main things I was looking for in a racquet. Luckily so far I haven't found much instability with this racquet. Of course it may have been the racquets I was comparing it to at the time or it may have been the high quality Prince Synthetic Gut strings in the demo :)

BBB,
Congratulations on your choice. I'm sure it's a relief! I've read many great reviews about the Ozone Tour - enjoy it!

A GREAT relief!! Now I'm looking forward to picking the hard/soft grommets, adjusting the tension, and then playing some amazing tennis!!!

BTW, the Gamma Supreme orange overgrips look great on the Ozone Tour.

I love the Gamma Supreme Orange overgrips. I used to use them on my Gamma T-7 racquets. They look awesome and hold their tack extremely well. The Ozone Tour grip runs a bit small so I ordered 4 5/8" grips and plan to use a thinner overgrip - either the Gamma Derma/Smart overgrip or my new favorite Gosen Perforated overgrip (doesn't start out as tacky as either of the Gamma but the tack remains consistent). If those are too thin I'm still holding onto 1 orange Supreme overgrip in my closet. Thanks for the advice.

TripleB,

I don't remember but were you a former Fischer Pro No. 1 user some time ago? I ask because if you were then it might be worth looking at the Ozone Tour more closely since I'm a former Pro No. 1 user.

I bought the Fischer MPro Number 1 105 when they were on closeout. The balance (not very headlight, not sure what the specs say but mine felt only about 2 points headlight which led to a high swingweight). Compared to the 105, in my opinion the Ozone Tour offers better maneuverability, lighter weight, between spin, and more power.

Great! Btw, what didn't you like about the C10 pro? Was the weight an issue?

Sorry, I left that one out in my initial post...I went back and added it in. The weight wasn't really an issue...I can't explain it but I just couldn't find the sweetspot.

TripleB

g4driver
07-19-2010, 12:35 PM
BTW, the Gamma Supreme orange overgrips look great on the Ozone Tour.

And they also look pretty catchy on my Dunlop 300s.:wink: Yes, the Gamma Supreme in bright orange grows on you.

Sure you can use white or black on a Dunlop 300 or 300 Tour, but the orange is like a trainwreck on my 300s. People look and stare, and when they realize you're not color blind, they realize your just a bit outside the lines.

Why match when you can clash? :)

hoosierbr
07-19-2010, 12:59 PM
I think I'll be switching to the KBlade 98 after my own racquet search. Down to that and the Babolat Pure Drive GT. Demoed the Pure Storm but a bit underpowered and not enough spin on my serve.

Congrats on your choice. I hope you'll be very happy together. :)

CzechM8
07-19-2010, 01:14 PM
Congrats on the choice. It's interesting to see someone whose experience with various models of racquets reflects mine so exactly.

I think I've brought my frames to perfection by putting on a leather grip. Not only did it help me feel the bevels better (which was why I put the leather there in the first place) but it also made the racquet more HL and even more fun in the spin department.

And the best thing is the arm friendliness of the stick. I can play two hours a day for two weeks in a row, with a full poly job, and have no elbow/shoulder trouble at all.

GameSetMatch
07-19-2010, 01:42 PM
Sorry about that.

LOL. Just goes to show that racquets are very much a matter of personal preference. Congrats on your new racquets. Your various reviews made an interesting read.

Rabbit
07-19-2010, 01:45 PM
I am through with demoing racquets for a loooooooooooooong time (easy to say when you don't have any money to order any more) and will be sticking with the Prince Ozone Tour!!!

TripleB

I give it two weeks, tops. ;)

Rainalkar
07-19-2010, 02:01 PM
Anyone had experience playing with these?

Pacific Raptor
Babolat AeroPro Team GT
Babolat Pure Drive Lite
Yonex S-Fit 1 Lite
Yonex S-Fit 3

What I'm looking for is:
-A very maneuverable racket (Wilson k6.1 Team is something I'm talking about)
-Has decent power (much more than the above Wilson, perhaps a bit more than the Fischer Pro Tour). I prefer for this reason rackets around 300g (I'm a 65kg male, probably a 4.0)
-Has plenty of spin potential (MUCH more then the Wilson, I prefer because of this reason a more open stringbed)
-Has to be very arm friendly (Wilson is great here)
-Has to be rather stable (Wilson was poor here, Fischer rather good)

Ofcourse I realize that some conditions partially exclude others, but you get the picture. I had in mind the rackets above, let me know what you think.

TripleB
07-19-2010, 02:07 PM
I give it two weeks, tops. ;)

Hey, that's twice as long as you've ever given it before :mrgreen:.

TripleB

Hidious
07-19-2010, 02:59 PM
Hello TripleB,

What a great racquet quest that was, i enjoyed it from the start. I may have tried only 2 or 3 racquets out of the ones you mention but i like how your findings relate to mine, especially about the 300 Tour.

Three questions:
-How different does soft vs hard grommet feel? Have you demoed both?
-Why didn't you try the AG 200? Is it out of your weight range?
-Are you a math teacher?

Thanks :)

Parker512
07-19-2010, 06:12 PM
If you get to try the mantis tell me if its good.

marosmith
07-19-2010, 06:17 PM
In 3 months you will want another one.

TripleB
07-19-2010, 06:18 PM
Three questions:
-How different does soft vs hard grommet feel? Have you demoed both?
-Why didn't you try the AG 200? Is it out of your weight range?
-Are you a math teacher?

Thanks :)

- I haven't tried the hard grommets yet...I'm told that it makes the racquet play a bit more 'crisp'. I'm looking forward to trying the hard grommets to see which I prefer. That's why I ordered the exact same string job (Scorpion mains/Gosen crosses) at the exact same tension in two of the racquets - 1 with the soft grommets and 1 with the hard grommets.
- The fact that it had a 18x20 string pattern in a 95 sq in racquet, was afraid it wouldn't give me quite enough spin.
- Yes, 7th grade.

You're welcome.

TripleB

cork_screw
07-19-2010, 07:39 PM
Thin beams don't result in instability. The Pro Staff 85 and the KPS88 are a few of the stablist racquets and they also have the thinnest beams. Same goes with the RDS 001 Mid

I played the Ozone Tour for a while and it's a good all around choice. One of few racquets with a lot of power in a flexy racquet. Only thing I didn't like about it was it's very thin beam which lead to a little instability at times for me.

morningglory75
07-19-2010, 07:54 PM
This is a really amusing post. Made my day!

NLBwell
07-19-2010, 10:37 PM
Thanks for the info BBB. Interesting that, of the rackets on your list I have tried, I'm in general agreement with your quick reviews except of the Ozone Tour which I hated.
Why did you make the string choices you did?
Let us know how you like them, please. I'd be interested to know (and I'm sure others will be too).

new_tennis_player
07-19-2010, 11:34 PM
Congratulations.

I'm really surprised Prince doesn't have a larger market share than it does. In the tennis classes I've taken, I'd say Wilson takes about 90% of the market.

W is like the McDonald's of tennis rackets: popular, easy to find, but it may leave one with a bad aftertaste.

TripleB
07-20-2010, 04:38 AM
Thanks for the info BBB. Interesting that, of the rackets on your list I have tried, I'm in general agreement with your quick reviews except of the Ozone Tour which I hated.
Why did you make the string choices you did?
Let us know how you like them, please. I'd be interested to know (and I'm sure others will be too).

To be honest the Prince Ozone Tour wasn't a racquet I was going to demo. When I was ordering my last set of demos T-W didn't have a demo of the Prince Ozone Tour available and I've never met an 'O' racquet that I liked.

It took about a week for the last four demos I ordered to get in. Around day five I decided to change one of my demos to the Prince Ozone Tour since T-W got a demo in and the Ozone Tour fell right into the perfect weight, balance, and width that I was looking for in a racquet. So the Ozone Tour was almost a racquet I didn't demo. Crazy how things work out.

I went with the Scorpion because I've tried that string in the past and really liked the feel, spin, and touch I got out of it. Although the Ozone Tour wasn't near as 'mushy' as I was expecting, I'm thinking the Scorpion mains will add a bit more of a 'crisp' feel to the racquet (looking for a bit more crisp feel on the serve). I've always loved Gosen as a cross.

I've also tried TurboTwist in the past as well and loved it to so since I ordered three racquets I would give it a shot in one. I put Forten Sweet in the crosses because I've heard great things about this cheap string.

I went with a poly/co-poly string because I use heavy spin and with the Ozone Tour's open string pattern I wanted to make sure I put something in it that will last.

I'll let you know how things turn out. Racquets won't be in for a week or so...UPS ground. Order was over the 12 pound max for free 2 day shipping :(.

TripleB

ChipNCharge
07-20-2010, 06:13 AM
Order was over the 12 pound max for free 2 day shipping :(

What else did you get that would result in a 12+ lb package??

JackB1
07-20-2010, 06:20 AM
Thin beams don't result in instability. The Pro Staff 85 and the KPS88 are a few of the stablist racquets and they also have the thinnest beams. Same goes with the RDS 001 Mid

I would think the weight of the beams has more to do with stability, but for whatever reason, I found the Ozone Tour a bit unstable on off center hits.

TripleB
07-20-2010, 06:43 AM
What else did you get that would result in a 12+ lb package??

Well, I'm not actually sure if it was the weight or the size of the box everything had to go in (both make an order inelligible for free 2 day shipping). I think I also ordered about 5 sets of strings, 9 packages of overgrip, and grommets. I had a tennis bag in there as well but removed it...so that may have put it over the limit and then when it was removed it may have not shown up as a reduction in weight :confused:

TripleB

pug
07-20-2010, 07:22 AM
TripleB,

Congratulations on finding a new partner. I have enjoyed reading all your posts on demos, thanks for taking the time to post them.

It seems that every time I run the racquet finder at TW, the Ozone Tour comes up. I may have to give it a test drive just to see if it needs to be in my bag.

TripleB
07-20-2010, 08:24 AM
TripleB,

Congratulations on finding a new partner. I have enjoyed reading all your posts on demos, thanks for taking the time to post them.

It seems that every time I run the racquet finder at TW, the Ozone Tour comes up. I may have to give it a test drive just to see if it needs to be in my bag.

Thanks. I truly appreciate your response.

Yea, me too. I avoided it for the longest time because other than the O3 White I playtested, I really hadn't found an O3 racquet that I liked the feel of...most felt too 'mushy' compared to what I was used to.

Best of luck!

Heads Up: Last week I emailed TW and asked if they would be getting more Prince Ozone Tour 4 1/2" grips in (because I was trying to decide between the 4 1/2 and the 4 5/8" and they said that the racquet was discontinued and they wouldn't be getting in any more 4 1/2" grips. Although when I checked earlier today they had two...so I'm not sure how they got more in. Just FYI.

TripleB

BC1
07-20-2010, 08:44 AM
I wonder if Prince has a "new" Ozone Tour in the works? Or if they are discontinuing the line for good?

Rabbit
07-20-2010, 08:54 AM
Hey, that's twice as long as you've ever given it before :mrgreen:.

TripleB

You actually sound convinced this time... ;)

Man, you paid $179/ea for discontinued frames? WOW.....

Jim Hendricks
07-20-2010, 08:56 AM
Thanks for sharing your new racquet journey. It was informative as usual.

JackB1
07-20-2010, 09:20 AM
Man, you paid $179/ea for discontinued frames? WOW.....

I hope not! They had these going for around $100 ea at my local PGA Tour Superstore.

Mansewerz
07-20-2010, 09:42 AM
You actually sound convinced this time... ;)

Man, you paid $179/ea for discontinued frames? WOW.....

Rabbit, why is it that whenever I switch frames, you switch again. I found you and I have similar frame preferences. When I went to AG100, you go to C10 pros. I go to c10 pros, you go to XForce Pro

Dreamwalker
07-20-2010, 09:49 AM
Congrats on your choice ... I very much enjoyed reading your reviews.

One question regarding your experience with the 4D 300 vs. 4D 300 Tour: You mentioned that the Tour didn't have enough power and the non-tour had putaway power. Was the difference fairly significant?

TripleB
07-20-2010, 10:25 AM
You actually sound convinced this time... ;)

Man, you paid $179/ea for discontinued frames? WOW.....

After playing with the demo last night I'm even more convinced. Such a solid feel, heavy spin, great maneuverability, incredible angles, etc, etc, etc.

$179? Maybe..........but probably not ;-)

Congrats on your choice ... I very much enjoyed reading your reviews.

One question regarding your experience with the 4D 300 vs. 4D 300 Tour: You mentioned that the Tour didn't have enough power and the non-tour had putaway power. Was the difference fairly significant?

Thank you...I appreciate the comment.

Yes, I would say it was pretty significant, both on groundstrokes and serves. Both had good put away power at the net but everywhere else it was quite a big difference.

TripleB

Shangri La
07-20-2010, 11:22 AM
Could have easily had TW re-do the order and split into two - there you have your free 2day shipping.

I know what a relief it is to finally settle down. Good luck.

TripleB
07-20-2010, 11:40 AM
Could have easily had TW re-do the order and split into two - there you have your free 2day shipping.

I know what a relief it is to finally settle down. Good luck.

Yea, I thought about that after I found out I was going to have to pay $5.95...but I had added/removed 5 or 6 different items from the order so I didn't want to irritate T-W Customer Service any more (especially over $6). Plus it will do my body (and my marriage) good to take the week off from tennis...'blessing in disguise' so to speak.

Thanks...it's a great relief!!!

TripleB

JackB1
07-20-2010, 12:01 PM
After playing with the demo last night I'm even more convinced. Such a solid feel, heavy spin, great maneuverability, incredible angles, etc, etc, etc.

$179? Maybe..........but probably not ;-)



Thank you...I appreciate the comment.

Yes, I would say it was pretty significant, both on groundstrokes and serves. Both had good put away power at the net but everywhere else it was quite a big difference.

TripleB

A weighted up 300 Tour strung low tension has PLENTY of put away power.

Fed Kennedy
07-20-2010, 12:42 PM
Hey triple b, in your quest, did you ever try the ozone pro tour (davydenko) model?

TripleB
07-20-2010, 01:03 PM
A weighted up 300 Tour strung low tension has PLENTY of put away power.

I agree...however the lack of spin (compared to the Ozone Tour as well as the 16x19 300) made it difficult to play with this racquet. But I loved A LOT of things about the Tour!!!

Hey triple b, in your quest, did you ever try the ozone pro tour (davydenko) model?

No, never have. Sorry.

TripleB

smirker
07-20-2010, 02:13 PM
Got my hands on an Ozone Tour tonight and have got to say it was very nice.

Enough power but not too much, plenty of spin and great for volleying.

Serve suffered a bit compared to my regular sticks. Nothing a little lead tape won't cure:) Think Iwould add leather grip also. Mate selling it second hand so may well buy it.

Can you confirm something on the specs? It all adds up except SW. On the frame it states the SW being 295 which I assume is unstrung as this is how they list the static weight on the frame also.

TW has the SW (strung) at 321. Can strings really add 26 SW points or is someone out with their measurements?

The frame I have is Prince Ozone Tour with a 3 above the O but definitely not the O3 Tour. 100" 27" long 310mm balance (unstrung) 10.9 oz (unstrung) and 295 SW 16m 18x.

I am in the UK so is it possible EU specs are different?

Good racquet, hope you enjoy them when they finally arrive.

TripleB
07-20-2010, 05:40 PM
Serve suffered a bit compared to my regular sticks. Nothing a little lead tape won't cure:) Think Iwould add leather grip also. Mate selling it second hand so may well buy it.

Can you confirm something on the specs? It all adds up except SW. On the frame it states the SW being 295 which I assume is unstrung as this is how they list the static weight on the frame also.

TW has the SW (strung) at 321. Can strings really add 26 SW points or is someone out with their measurements?

The frame I have is Prince Ozone Tour with a 3 above the O but definitely not the O3 Tour. 100" 27" long 310mm balance (unstrung) 10.9 oz (unstrung) and 295 SW 16m 18x.

I am in the UK so is it possible EU specs are different?

Good racquet, hope you enjoy them when they finally arrive.

The first time out with this racquet my serve suffered as well. I think it was the fact that contact didn't feel as crisp as the other racquets I was trying. Second night it came around and has gotten better ever since. Kick serves are incredible.

Not sure about the specs. The demo I had weighed 323 grams strung. Swingweight felt like it was around the 315-320 mark. Not sure how much swingweight strings add...a lot of people here know a lot more about swingweight than I do.

The Prince Ozone Tour racquets I ordered already have a leather grip.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

TripleB

hrstrat57
07-20-2010, 06:11 PM
Good luck with the new sticks......

As we all know a real player needs at least 3 frames to feel complete:)

Looking forward to hear more regarding the way forward!

Congrats on the completion of your quest.

My quest only requires the score of one more i prestige mp with a 4 1/2 grip, glossy finish must be mint and cheap.

Wish me luck!

smirker
07-21-2010, 12:50 AM
The first time out with this racquet my serve suffered as well. I think it was the fact that contact didn't feel as crisp as the other racquets I was trying. Second night it came around and has gotten better ever since. Kick serves are incredible.

Not sure about the specs. The demo I had weighed 323 grams strung. Swingweight felt like it was around the 315-320 mark. Not sure how much swingweight strings add...a lot of people here know a lot more about swingweight than I do.

The Prince Ozone Tour racquets I ordered already have a leather grip.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

TripleB

No Problem. Thanks for the tip on serve. I am just used to serving with heavier sticks and letting them plow through the ball. Agree that second serves were more succesful with plenty of action on the ball. Will have to add some lead and see how we go from there. Will add leather too as I prefer the feel. Looked on the Prince site and I definitely have the right frame.

Anyone care to comment on the amount of SW a set of strings adds?

GTI
07-21-2010, 01:09 AM
Hi TripleB, thanks for sharing your thoughts.

I have played with Kblade98 several months now and agree with you. Very good power and control with it. But one big problem...it's been hurting my arm. Due to that I'm thinking to switch. I'm also hoping to find some more stability at net and little bit more spin (although kblade98 spin is good for 18x20).

How do you compare swingweight, stability and powerlevel between kblade98 and Ozone tour?

TripleB
07-21-2010, 05:37 AM
Hi TripleB, thanks for sharing your thoughts.

How do you compare swingweight, stability and powerlevel between kblade98 and Ozone tour?

You're welcome!

Swingweight: the Ozone Tour swings easier than the KBlade 98. My KBlade 98 demo was 3 points headlight while the Ozone Tour was about 6.5 points headlight. In my opinion the Ozone has a swingweight (not sure what the specs say) about 8 to 10 points less...much easier to whip the Ozone Tour around on groundstrokes and it's also quicker at the net.

Stability: tough call on this one...I would say they are equal but for different reasons. The balance of the KBlade makes it feel very stable while the 'O' rings in the Ozone Tour makes the sweetspot of the Prince feel huge. I like the fact that the Prince is as stable as the KBlade but still gives that great maneuverability.

Power Level: in my opinion the Ozone Tour has more power as well as more consistent power. I noticed a drop off in power (away from the sweetspot) more with the KBlade than I did with the Ozone Tour. The Ozone Tour's power level is very uniform (ie: a huge sweetspot) with no noticeable 'dead' spots on the racquet face. The KBlade still has a good amount of power though but I felt its power came from the plowthrough of the racquet.

Hope some of this helps.

TripleB

pug
07-21-2010, 11:39 AM
You're welcome!

Swingweight: the Ozone Tour swings easier than the KBlade 98. My KBlade 98 demo was 3 points headlight while the Ozone Tour was about 6.5 points headlight. In my opinion the Ozone has a swingweight (not sure what the specs say) about 8 to 10 points less...much easier to whip the Ozone Tour around on groundstrokes and it's also quicker at the net.

Stability: tough call on this one...I would say they are equal but for different reasons. The balance of the KBlade makes it feel very stable while the 'O' rings in the Ozone Tour makes the sweetspot of the Prince feel huge. I like the fact that the Prince is as stable as the KBlade but still gives that great maneuverability.

Power Level: in my opinion the Ozone Tour has more power as well as more consistent power. I noticed a drop off in power (away from the sweetspot) more with the KBlade than I did with the Ozone Tour. The Ozone Tour's power level is very uniform (ie: a huge sweetspot) with no noticeable 'dead' spots on the racquet face. The KBlade still has a good amount of power though but I felt its power came from the plowthrough of the racquet.

Hope some of this helps.

TripleB

TripleB,

You are really making this racquet sound like a winner. It seems like this one was not really on your radar, but just showed up by devine intervention. I am really curious to give it a hit.

TripleB
07-21-2010, 12:14 PM
TripleB,

You are really making this racquet sound like a winner. It seems like this one was not really on your radar, but just showed up by devine intervention. I am really curious to give it a hit.

You are correct...I believe it must have been devine intervention.

Here's the story, the whole story, and nothing but the story:

I had never given the Ozone Tour any thought at all because of the 'O' rings which I felt would give a 'mushy' feel. I even put up a post about the 'mushyness' of the Ozone Tour and everybody pretty much confirmed it was mushy...I like crisp. So the Ozone Tour was definitely out (so I thought).

I ordered 4 demos from T-W. One of them was the Volkl PowerBridge 10 Mid that I wanted to try for a second time. It was taking a while for T-W to get it back in stock (and there were several other racquets I wanted to try) so I ordered it along with 3 others from another tennis store (sorry T-W). I removed the PB 10 Mid from the T-W order.

That left 1 opening so I put the specs I was looking for back into the racquet finder and the Ozone Tour appeared. I figured it was a 'free' demo so I threw it in there expecting to hit with it about 20 minutes and then put it back in the box. Luckily those first 20 minutes were excellent so I kept playing with it.

So there were many, many, many things that had to happen at the right time for me to even demo the Ozone Tour.

Somebody up there (maybe the 'God of the Holy Grails') really wanted me to try the Ozone Tour. I think it's meant to be.

TripleB

jonahnaturals
08-01-2010, 05:01 AM
Hey TripleB,

Funny, I, too, purchased three ozone tours around July 20. This was after testing more than a dozen racquets over the past year!

I've been playing around with different string setups. Here's what I've experienced thus far:

Full bed of volkl cyclone 16 at 48 pounds: Quite nice for spin and depth without tremendous effort.

Full bed of volkl cyclone 16 at 55 pounds: Definitely lose some depth, and not as much gain in control as I anticipated. Still a solid choice.

Full bed of kirschbaum spiky shark 16 at 55 pounds: Nice spin and control. With practice, not so hard to flatten out shots for good plow through. Excellent control over backhand slices, especially high ones that you want to keep short on the other side to bring baseline grinders in.

Hybrid of natural gut 15 g in the mains at 50 and babolat pro hurricane tour at 48 in the crosses: Really nice plow through and spin production, only problem was the ball would fly on me sometimes, and felt like I had to reign in my racquet head speed.

I'm out of natural gut at the moment, and have an order in for some more. Once it arrives, I'm going to try gut in the mains at 55 and a polyester in the crosses at 52 or thereabouts. Lendl and Federer are the two big ones that use gut in the mains and polys in the crosses; most other pros and former pros that use hybrid setups use polys in the mains and gut in the crosses.

I find that putting polys in the crosses gives the ball more bite on the slice, which makes sense, as it's more the crosses than the mains that brush down on the ball on a backhand slice that's well executed.

The stick itself, I couldn't be happier with. After a bunch of testing, I thought I wanted a stick in the 12 ounce range, as you just can't create the same plow through with a 11 to 11.5 ounce stick. But I eventually realized (with the help of a friend) that the most important considerations in choosing a stick should be how well you can return and serve with it over two hours.

The prince ozone tour is quite stable for its weight, and is amazingly maneuverable. With 12 ounce sticks, I would be late on my backhand here and there. But I'm rarely late on any stroke with the prince ozone tour, and this has given me confidence to sit back and hold, hold, hold (like the Scots in Braveheart holding the line before lifting up their spears) before unleashing on the ball.

I'm also very appreciative of the forgiveness afforded by the 100 square inch head size.

Regarding soft and hard grommets, I've tried both and haven't found that they affect play very much, at least not compared to the strings and tension.

If you have any string setups that you can recommend, would love to hear them.

Thanks!

Ben

TripleB
08-01-2010, 05:46 AM
If you have any string setups that you can recommend, would love to hear them.

Thanks!

Ben

Thanks for the info on your string set up...I've had my eye on the Volkl string for a while...may have to try it soon.

Haven't had a chance to try different string set ups in mine yet. One came strung incorrectly (they didn't put it through the hole in the hard grommet) and in another the string came loose (it was cut too close at the tie off) within 4 hits.

So the only string combo I've tried is WC TurboTwist 1.24 mains and Forten Sweet 16g crosses ( 56/58 ) in the soft grommets. This set up gives amazing spin, power, and control but feels a little loose for me. Would want to bump up the tension if using this set up again.

I'm having the other two racquets strung this weekend: a) hard grommets: WC Turbotwist 1.24 mains and Mantis Synthetic Soft 16g crosses (57/59) and b) soft grommets: WC Scorpion 1.28 mains and Gosen OG Sheep Micro 16g crosses (57/59).

After trying these three racquets I'm going to make a decision on hard or soft grommets and then start trying different string set ups. Some mains I'm thinking of using are Poly Force 17, Solinco Revolution 17, Black Code 17, Scorpion 1.22, Turbotwist 1.24.

Crosses I've got narrowed down to Forten Sweet 16, Gosen OG Sheep Micro 16, and Mantis Comfort Syn 16.

I'll let you know what works out the best.

I love the racquet as well...the specs turned out to be perfect. TW matched the 3 racquets and the unstrung specs are: 11.2 ounces, 12 1/8" balance, and 294 swingweight. So solid, crazy spin, thin beam, great maneuverability, etc., etc., etc.

Again, thanks for the input on strings.

TripleB

dParis
08-01-2010, 07:19 AM
13 Demos Later - New Racquet has been Purchased!!!

I purchased three Prince Ozone Tour racquets over the weekend (from T-W of course).Thank you for your patients over the past several months and your help in narrowing down my demo choices.

I am through with demoing racquets for a loooooooooooooong time (easy to say when you don't have any money to order any more) and will be sticking with the Prince Ozone Tour!!!

TripleB
Another milestone has been set on the timeline of TW's Talk Tennis forums.

Happy hitting with your new racquets, 3xB. :)

martin
08-02-2010, 04:06 AM
Over the past couple of months I've demoed numerous racquets in hopes of finding a cross between my old POG mid (great spin potential and perfect power) and my current LiquidMetal Radical Midplus (fantastic control, lighter weight, great maneuverability, and solid feel). During those months I've demoed 12 racquets. Here are my 2 sentence thoughts on each:

Babolat Pure Storm: This racquet offered much better than average stability and the sweetspot seemed huge. When playing with this racquet however there seemed to be a 'disconnected' feel between the head and the stringbed which seemed to give me poor control and make me wonder where the ball actually contacted the strings.

Yonex RDiS 200 Lite: There was great power and spin to be had with this racquet which gave me fantastic control in singles and doubles. The problem I had with this racquet was that there didn't seem to be very much stability so it got pushed around the court very easily, which was noticeable most when returning hard first serves.

Dunlop 4D 300 Tour: This racquet is an amazing racquet because, in a light package, it gives you pinpoint control, a fantastic flexy feel, whipable balance, and truly incredible touch at the net. The two things that kept this racquet out of my bag are the lack of spin potential and there wasn't quite enough power for me.

Wilson BLX Six-One Tour: An extremely solid racquet from everywhere on the court and very fun to play with for a set. But over a two set match it was just too much racquet for me.

Wilson KBlade 98: The KBlade 98 is an awesome racquet that offers great plowthrough ( for a lighter racquet), superior control, fantastic spin (especially for a 16x18 ) , perfect power on groundstrokes and serves, and better than average maneuverability. I loved this racquet except for the fact that every time I played with it my elbow ached for days (and is still tender)

Head YouTek Prestige Pro: The maneuverability and touch with this racquet is outstanding. Other than that I didn't find much I liked about this racquet because of the lack of spin and inconsistent power I got with it.

Volkl C10 Pro: I really liked the look and feel of this racquet and the specs lined up perfectly with what I was looking for in a new racquet. I'm not sure why but I could never really find the sweetspot with this racquet, it lacked a little spin (for me), and I couldn't find consistent depth on my shots.

Wilson BLX Six-One 16x18: This racquet has amazing spin potential (loved watching my opponents eyes when groundstrokes hit), pretty good maneuverability, spot on control and above average power. I liked this racquet and probably 10 years ago could play with this racquet but now I prefer a bit lighter racquet to use.

Volkl DNX 10 Mid: This racquet had a very solid feel. The demoed weighed in at 13 gram over the specs show at T-W and it was only 5 points headlight so in my opinion the PowerBridge 10 Mid is a much better choice of the two.

Volkl PowerBridge 10 Mid: Almost as solid as the BLX 6-1 Tour with much better maneuverability, tremendous control, pop on the serve, and was a lot of fun to play with. I wasn't able to whip my forehand quickly enough to have success going crosscourt so I decided against this one.

Dunlop 4D 300: I had a fun time with this racquet because of the great maneuverability, excellent topspin, heavy slice, and put away power. It lacked stability in the upper head area so I added some lead tape but it still wasn't stable enough for me to warrant a purchase.

Boris Becker Delta Core London: This racquet had the Volkl flex which led to fantastic stability (for such a light racquet), power level, control, and I had decent success with it. The 16x19 string pattern on this one is very tight so I wasn't able to get the topspin I needed with it to play my type of game.

Prince Ozone Tour: This racquet offers the best combination of all the positive aspects of the racquets mentioned above. Amazing spin potential (best of any of the racquets), huge feeling sweetspot which leads to a solid feel from all over the racquet face, perfect power potential on groundstrokes/serves/volleys, excellent touch at net (never thought I'd say that about an 'O' racquet), easy whipability (crosscourt forehand deep into the opponents court may become my new favorite shot), many many many options on the return of serve, easy on the arm, incredible control (especially depth control...an area I've struggled with lately). This is my new racquet of choice.

I purchased three Prince Ozone Tour racquets over the weekend (from T-W of course). One with soft grommets strung with WeissCannon TurboTwist mains and Forten Sweet crosses. One with soft grommets strung with WeissCannon Scorpion mains and Gosen OG Sheep Micro crosses. One with hard grommets strung with WeissCannon Scorpion mains and Gosen OG Sheep Micro crosses.

I also ordered a set of Mantis Comfort poly and Solinco Outlast poly to try in case I donít like the feel of either of the WeissCannon strings.

Thank you for your patients over the past several months and your help in narrowing down my demo choices.

I am through with demoing racquets for a loooooooooooooong time (easy to say when you don't have any money to order any more) and will be sticking with the Prince Ozone Tour!!!

TripleB

Congratulations with your new racket but using leadtape at 3 and 9 o'clock at your 4D 300 when you're having instability issues in the upper head is the wrong place to locate leadtape.
You should have asked a master racquet technician instead who can advice you where to place it.

TripleB
08-02-2010, 07:17 AM
Congratulations with your new racket but using leadtape at 3 and 9 o'clock at your 4D 300 when you're having instability issues in the upper head is the wrong place to locate leadtape.
You should have asked a master racquet technician instead who can advice you where to place it.

Thanks for the advice.

Yea, I probably should have looked into where to put the lead tape a little more in order to get the results I was looking for out of the racquet.

To be honest though, as much as I've disliked having to use lead tape in the past, I think I was looking for a reason to move on and find a racquet where I wouldn't have to add lead tape. Luckily I found it in the Ozone Tour.

Again, thank you for your input.

TripleB

JackB1
08-02-2010, 07:42 AM
Thanks for the advice.

Yea, I probably should have looked into where to put the lead tape a little more in order to get the results I was looking for out of the racquet.

To be honest though, as much as I've disliked having to use lead tape in the past, I think I was looking for a reason to move on and find a racquet where I wouldn't have to add lead tape. Luckily I found it in the Ozone Tour.

Again, thank you for your input.

TripleB

just add the tape at 10/2 and it should help.

lefty10spro
08-02-2010, 02:00 PM
I am a Prince sponsored teaching pro and I used the Ozone Tour for years. Recently swithched to the EXO3 Graphite 100 (with holes). Despite the slightly different specs, these 2 rackets are VERY similar. A soft, stable (more so than than the Ozone IMO), spin machine!

new_tennis_player
08-02-2010, 02:21 PM
The EXO3's are very nice, but a bit expensive.

How do the O3's hit? For example, the O3 red vs. EXO3 red, or O3 white vs. EXO3 white?

lefty10spro
08-02-2010, 02:41 PM
The EXO3 skeletal structure seems to make the frames by far more stable than their O3 counterparts. And the EXO3s that have the hole option (instead of ports) are a lot of fun to customize to your individual styles because it makes a huge difference in the way the stick performs.

Connors
08-04-2010, 11:51 AM
Is the Ozone Tour MP the same as the old O3 Tour midplus? It's the one that first came out back in like '05 or '04. Same? Both are 100 sq. inches and have the thin beam, etc.

lefty10spro
08-05-2010, 12:21 PM
Yes, those 2 rackets are just about identical.

VolklPro
08-07-2010, 04:43 PM
Over the past couple of months I've demoed numerous racquets in hopes of finding a cross between my old POG mid (great spin potential and perfect power) and my current LiquidMetal Radical Midplus (fantastic control, lighter weight, great maneuverability, and solid feel). During those months I've demoed 12 racquets. Here are my 2 sentence thoughts on each:

Babolat Pure Storm: This racquet offered much better than average stability and the sweetspot seemed huge. When playing with this racquet however there seemed to be a 'disconnected' feel between the head and the stringbed which seemed to give me poor control and make me wonder where the ball actually contacted the strings.

Yonex RDiS 200 Lite: There was great power and spin to be had with this racquet which gave me fantastic control in singles and doubles. The problem I had with this racquet was that there didn't seem to be very much stability so it got pushed around the court very easily, which was noticeable most when returning hard first serves.

Dunlop 4D 300 Tour: This racquet is an amazing racquet because, in a light package, it gives you pinpoint control, a fantastic flexy feel, whipable balance, and truly incredible touch at the net. The two things that kept this racquet out of my bag are the lack of spin potential and there wasn't quite enough power for me.

Wilson BLX Six-One Tour: An extremely solid racquet from everywhere on the court and very fun to play with for a set. But over a two set match it was just too much racquet for me.

Wilson KBlade 98: The KBlade 98 is an awesome racquet that offers great plowthrough ( for a lighter racquet), superior control, fantastic spin (especially for a 16x18 ) , perfect power on groundstrokes and serves, and better than average maneuverability. I loved this racquet except for the fact that every time I played with it my elbow ached for days (and is still tender)

Head YouTek Prestige Pro: The maneuverability and touch with this racquet is outstanding. Other than that I didn't find much I liked about this racquet because of the lack of spin and inconsistent power I got with it.

Volkl C10 Pro: I really liked the look and feel of this racquet and the specs lined up perfectly with what I was looking for in a new racquet. I'm not sure why but I could never really find the sweetspot with this racquet, it lacked a little spin (for me), and I couldn't find consistent depth on my shots.

Wilson BLX Six-One 16x18: This racquet has amazing spin potential (loved watching my opponents eyes when groundstrokes hit), pretty good maneuverability, spot on control and above average power. I liked this racquet and probably 10 years ago could play with this racquet but now I prefer a bit lighter racquet to use.

Volkl DNX 10 Mid: This racquet had a very solid feel. The demoed weighed in at 13 gram over the specs show at T-W and it was only 5 points headlight so in my opinion the PowerBridge 10 Mid is a much better choice of the two.

Volkl PowerBridge 10 Mid: Almost as solid as the BLX 6-1 Tour with much better maneuverability, tremendous control, pop on the serve, and was a lot of fun to play with. I wasn't able to whip my forehand quickly enough to have success going crosscourt so I decided against this one.

Dunlop 4D 300: I had a fun time with this racquet because of the great maneuverability, excellent topspin, heavy slice, and put away power. It lacked stability in the upper head area so I added some lead tape but it still wasn't stable enough for me to warrant a purchase.

Boris Becker Delta Core London: This racquet had the Volkl flex which led to fantastic stability (for such a light racquet), power level, control, and I had decent success with it. The 16x19 string pattern on this one is very tight so I wasn't able to get the topspin I needed with it to play my type of game.

Prince Ozone Tour: This racquet offers the best combination of all the positive aspects of the racquets mentioned above. Amazing spin potential (best of any of the racquets), huge feeling sweetspot which leads to a solid feel from all over the racquet face, perfect power potential on groundstrokes/serves/volleys, excellent touch at net (never thought I'd say that about an 'O' racquet), easy whipability (crosscourt forehand deep into the opponents court may become my new favorite shot), many many many options on the return of serve, easy on the arm, incredible control (especially depth control...an area I've struggled with lately). This is my new racquet of choice.

I purchased three Prince Ozone Tour racquets over the weekend (from T-W of course). One with soft grommets strung with WeissCannon TurboTwist mains and Forten Sweet crosses. One with soft grommets strung with WeissCannon Scorpion mains and Gosen OG Sheep Micro crosses. One with hard grommets strung with WeissCannon Scorpion mains and Gosen OG Sheep Micro crosses.

I also ordered a set of Mantis Comfort poly and Solinco Outlast poly to try in case I donít like the feel of either of the WeissCannon strings.

Thank you for your patients over the past several months and your help in narrowing down my demo choices.

I am through with demoing racquets for a loooooooooooooong time (easy to say when you don't have any money to order any more) and will be sticking with the Prince Ozone Tour!!!

TripleB
I tried the Ozone Tour today with a full poly setup. (Technifibre blackcode @55 lbs). After stringing I measured the dynamic tension and it came to 52 lbs. I have heard that blackcode loses some tension.

I use the Volk PB 10 mid as my main racquet. When I played with the Prince I noticed I was able to generate more power and better spin. As far as control is concerned I think my Volkl has better control but I feel control might improve if I string the prince around 58-60 lbs.

Overall the prince felt stable, but not as stable as the Volkl. But I think its good enough to call it a stable racquet. The prince is high on comfort even with a full poly setup.

This is my initial assessment. But I need to play with the Prince more to get a better feel for the racquet. So far I think I like it. I will stick with it as my main racquet for now and see how it goes.

Cheers!

Fed Kennedy
08-07-2010, 10:07 PM
I also traded for one of these lately and havent been able to put it down. Stringing full poly at 55, such a fun stick.

TripleB
08-14-2010, 06:24 PM
I love this racquet more and more each time out!!!

It looks as though soft grommets, WC Turbotwist 1.24mm mains (54 pounds), Forten Sweet Synthetic Gut 16g crosses (56 pounds), Gamma Grip 2 or Kirschbaum Touch It Super Thin overgrip, rubberband, and Gamma DuraGuard clear protective head tape is the way to go!!!

Awesome spin, amazing control, fantastic power level, perfect maneuverability, unbelievably solid feel, excellent touch...such a wonderful racquet!!!

TripleB

jonahnaturals
08-14-2010, 06:59 PM
Amen, Brother. :) It's definitely an amazing stick. The only downside that I can comment on is the bit of extra work that is needed to keep the string straight when stringing the crosses.

Happy tennis.

Ben

Fed Kennedy
08-14-2010, 10:27 PM
Hey 3B, any more detail on hard grommet vs. soft? I havent tried the soft yet...

Ross K
08-15-2010, 12:27 AM
Triple, Fed, others,

Not for the first time, some of these reports are impressing me, I must say...

Q.'s:

. How big is that 100" head-size? Does it feel bulky and big? Or is it a relatively small 100", so to speak?

. What frame/s does this slightly resemble in terms of performance? You know, which frame would you say: "If you like....... you'd maybe like the Ozone Tour"...?

. How would you describe the balance and way it swings?... and is their stifness/flex in the throat area or elsewhere?

. How would you describe its serving capabilities?... pros (and cons maybe)?

TIA,

R.

TripleB
08-15-2010, 05:59 AM
The only downside that I can comment on is the bit of extra work that is needed to keep the string straight when stringing the crosses.


Do you use the boomerang tool from Prince when you string it? I don't actually string my racquets but it looks as though the boomerang tool seems to make the task a bit easier.

Hey 3B, any more detail on hard grommet vs. soft? I havent tried the soft yet...

I prefer the softer grommets...which is not what I would have expected since I used to prefer a more crisp feel. They play amazingly similar but the softer grommets seem to make the sweetspot larger and give me a bit more spin. Definitely going with the softer grommets for those two reasons (but again, not that much of a difference in my opinion).


. How big is that 100" head-size? Does it feel bulky and big? Or is it a relatively small 100", so to speak?

It feels 100 square inches when talking about the sweetspot (maybe even larger) but in play I think it feels smaller because of how then the beam is. Doesn't feel bulky at all!

. What frame/s does this slightly resemble in terms of performance? You know, which frame would you say: "If you like....... you'd maybe like the Ozone Tour"...?

None really. There isn't another from that's really that weight with an open string pattern. It's honestly a cross between the Prince Original Graphite Mid and the Prince O3 White. I guess the Gamma T-7 is around the same specs but that don't play very much alike. The most similar racquet I guess I've tried is the Wilson KBlade 98. I get similar results with the KBlade but the Prince gives more pop, spin, and control without any arm pain.

. How would you describe the balance and way it swings?... and is their stifness/flex in the throat area or elsewhere?

Balance of mine is perfect...12 1/8" unstrung...about 12 5/8" as I have it now. Swingweight was 294 before stringing and I would guess around 315-320 as is now. Swings quickly but it's not so light that you don't feel the racquet moving through the air. Some racquets you can't really tell where they are when you swing them...with the Ozone Tour you know where it is but it doesn't feel heavy. IMO the flex is pretty uniform with not a specific flexy point.

. How would you describe its serving capabilities?... pros (and cons maybe)?

Fantastic. Kick serves are just incredible (hit a serve yesterday that had so much spin the guy couldn't get his racquet to the right spot and the ball about hit him in the head) and the racquet gives excellent pop on first serves. Control is spot on...which is saying a lot the way I serve.



Hope this helps.

TripleB

Virgilio
08-15-2010, 07:23 AM
Hello TripleB and thanks for your post. By searching for a Prince Ozone Tour I stepped out in various racquets like:

O3 Ozone Pro Tour Team MP (310 grams and 18 x 20 SP)
O3 Ozone Tour Lite MP (280 grams and 16 x 18 SP)
O3 Ozone Tour MP (326 grams and 16 x 18 SP).

Which of the three is yours? Do you know the other ones? What are the difference with the one you chose? Thanks in advance.

TripleB
08-15-2010, 10:44 AM
O3 Ozone Pro Tour Team MP (310 grams and 18 x 20 SP)
O3 Ozone Tour Lite MP (280 grams and 16 x 18 SP)
O3 Ozone Tour MP (326 grams and 16 x 18 SP).

Which of the three is yours? Do you know the other ones? What are the difference with the one you chose? Thanks in advance.

This one: http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpage-POZT.html

I have not tried any of the other ones.

TripleB

new_tennis_player
08-15-2010, 10:47 AM
Virtually every O3 and EXO3 I've ever demo'ed has been exceptionally easy to swing, had a huge sweetspot, and was very comfortable to boot.

The racketheads over there are tireless in R&D, and the proliferation of rackethead sizes and monikers is getting a bit crazy.

One downside: prince customer service SUCKS. They will NEVER reply to an email through customer service and their phoneline is never manned.

Wilson on the other hand replies immediately to every inquiry.

TripleB
08-15-2010, 11:51 AM
One downside: prince customer service SUCKS. They will NEVER reply to an email through customer service and their phoneline is never manned.


I have not contacted them often but the last time was to get a boomerang tool. The lady was very nice and helpful. I had the boomerang tool in 3 days. Maybe I just got lucky.

TripleB

new_tennis_player
08-15-2010, 11:57 AM
I have not contacted them often but the last time was to get a boomerang tool. The lady was very nice and helpful. I had the boomerang tool in 3 days. Maybe I just got lucky.

TripleB

How were you able to contact them? Their phone line is unmanned during regular hours and I've never received an email reply.

Ross K
08-15-2010, 01:43 PM
TripleB,

Thanks for reply earlier.

R

Virgilio
08-15-2010, 03:17 PM
I am puzzled, would a similar racquet be any good for a recreational player like me, too?

TripleB
08-15-2010, 05:38 PM
How were you able to contact them? Their phone line is unmanned during regular hours and I've never received an email reply.

I called them about 10 minutes after their regular hours began one morning. After a couple rings she answered...again, may have just got lucky.

TripleB,

Thanks for reply earlier.

R

You're welcome...I hope some of the info was helpful.

TripleB

newton296
10-05-2011, 03:01 PM
I hated the feel of the prince ozone and exo racquets. sorry, but it feels like I swinging the racquet , and then the racquet hits the ball.. just felt disconnected from the shots. I did like the comfort though. like hitting the ball with a pillow! amazing really!

Hooked
10-06-2011, 08:14 AM
Has anyone compared the Prince Ozone Tour MP to the Babolat AeroPro Drive Cortex? They seem close in specs, but curious to hear from anyone that has played them back to back.

babar
10-06-2011, 12:55 PM
Hey Triple B,
I've tried almost all the racquets on your list and my list is pretty close to yours.

I haven't tried the Ozone Tour, but have tried the BLX Blade 98, YT Radical MP and the EXO3 Tour. I'm coming from the BLX 6.1 95 and am leaving it for the same reasons as you. I love the spin, power, and stability of the BLX 6.1 but the weight keeps me from truly playing up to my potential throughout a match.

Of the 3 racquets above, I love the power,spin and stability of the BLX Blade, but the maneuverability is a little suspect. I really like the EXO3 and YT Radical, but the flex keeps scaring me away. Have you noticed using a poly stringbed to help stiffen the racquet up? Have you tried the EXO3 Tour and is it similar to the Ozone Tour? Is the Ozone Tour more powerful?

newton296
10-11-2011, 06:03 PM
I hate all the prince racquets! no feel ! trampoline like power!

TheOneHander
10-11-2011, 07:26 PM
I hate all the prince racquets! no feel ! trampoline like power!

Yep, I agree. Just like all Babolats are stiff arm killers and Prokennexes are for beat-up old grampus with elbow issues.

Tell it like it is, man!

Doubles
10-11-2011, 07:47 PM
Yep, I agree. Just like all Babolats are stiff arm killers and Prokennexes are for beat-up old grampus with elbow issues.

Tell it like it is, man!

HEAD is where it's at, man...

pug
10-11-2011, 09:10 PM
I hate all the prince racquets! no feel ! trampoline like power!

You have played them "all"? Man you must be quite wealthy or own a tennis shop. Lucky you.

pshulam
10-11-2011, 09:57 PM
You have played them "all"? Man you must be quite wealthy or own a tennis shop. Lucky you.
Obviously not all - just the ones (from Prince) he/she ever used.

RVP
03-24-2014, 01:33 AM
Hi I recently bought a Ozone tour but the unstrung weight (including grip, bumper guard and grommets) was 330 gram but advertised unstrung weight was 310 gram. Is something wrong? did I get a wrong racket?

yes, on the racket no specs is mentioned but a code is given
TX141P-100 27" TK3E.

Any idea what it is?

THanks,

rlau
03-24-2014, 01:53 AM
Hi I recently bought a Ozone tour but the unstrung weight (including grip, bumper guard and grommets) was 330 gram but advertised unstrung weight was 310 gram. Is something wrong? did I get a wrong racket?

yes, on the racket no specs is mentioned but a code is given
TX141P-100 27" TK3E.

Any idea what it is?

THanks,

Pro stock: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=495590

Timbo's hopeless slice
03-24-2014, 09:02 PM
I hate all the prince racquets! no feel ! trampoline like power!


When did you hit with my CTS Precision?