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tjchurchdr
07-21-2010, 07:44 AM
My wife is a 3.5 player and has problems with planter faciitis, are there any suggestions on shoes? Thanks.

surfsb
07-21-2010, 08:05 AM
Tennis shoes aren't really designed for issues like plantar fasciitis in mind even though they might market words like "stability" or "comfort" with the shoes (same with running shoes). Shoes vary in arch and heel support but that's all subjective to a persons foot.

The best idea is to talk with an orthopedist on options of insoles which will probably yield the best results.

bmwfool
07-21-2010, 08:10 AM
Speaking first hand, I found that Nike's 'Breathe' line has helped me tremendously. I have even recommended the shoes to others that have experienced foot problems and these shoes have helped them as well. I also have another friend who found some inserts that had a label that guaranteed to help reduce foot pain from plantar faciitis and he said it worked wonders. He read through all of the insert packages he found at Walgreens or Rite-Aid, and saw this money-back guarantee to alleviate plantar faciitis (not eliminate) on this particular pair of inserts and went with it. No more pain!

tarkowski
07-21-2010, 08:13 AM
The thing that cured it for me was a combination of taping, and using a good insert (for me, superfeet green). Now I just use the insert (taping can be a pain and will leave a bit of glue in your socks) without any issues.

The primary goal is to get pressure off the tendon - and taping while the foot is contracted will mean the tape is what picks up the slack when the foot is extended under hard movements.

This is the taping method I used:

http://heelspurs.com/_intro2.html

It's important to note that you want the tendon to get stronger, so you don't want to use the tape all the time - just for those occasions that are intense and stress it, like tennis. I lived with this condition for over a year and at one point thought it would never leave unless I gave up on tennis altogether. However, upon using the taping method, I had it 100% cured in 3 months, all the while playing tennis. It took some time, but it was worth it.

Good luck!

denj3325
07-21-2010, 08:29 AM
I had bad plantar faciitis last fall, what I had to go was go get insoles. I have since then got a new pair of tennis shoes, and I havent had the problem since

baseline_monster
07-21-2010, 08:46 AM
I have it really bad at the moment. Was advised by the doctors to have a steroid injection, has not worked. Looking at having the specialist inner soles made but the bill of 300 is not cheap. I use nike ballistec 1.3 and 2.3's. Have like all Nike shoes but am tempted to maybe go down the barricade line as they offer a snugger fit in the heel area, this can only help?

tennis4josh
07-21-2010, 09:05 AM
I have it really bad at the moment. Was advised by the doctors to have a steroid injection, has not worked. Looking at having the specialist inner soles made but the bill of 300 is not cheap. I use nike ballistec 1.3 and 2.3's. Have like all Nike shoes but am tempted to maybe go down the barricade line as they offer a snugger fit in the heel area, this can only help?

I fill a stainless steel bottle with water to 3/4th capacity and put it in freezer overnight. When I am going to sit in one place for a while, I take the frozen bottle and roll it on the floor with my foot. You can spread a towel under the bottle to prevent the floor from getting wet. This has reduced my pain down to 20% of what I used to have. Your mileage may vary but it will definitely help you.

Good Luck
-Josh

Brian Purdie
07-21-2010, 09:08 AM
i have it too. I don't have all the answers, but i did make some lifestyle adjustments, many of which revolve around avoiding excess pressure on the ligament.
1) avoid taking the stairs (especially when wearing dress shoes-this was my downfall)
2) don't put your feet up on side of the coffee table
3) use athletic shoes when possible
4) use cruise control when in the car on highways

baseline_monster
07-21-2010, 09:48 AM
I fill a stainless steel bottle with water to 3/4th capacity and put it in freezer overnight. When I am going to sit in one place for a while, I take the frozen bottle and roll it on the floor with my foot. You can spread a towel under the bottle to prevent the floor from getting wet. This has reduced my pain down to 20% of what I used to have. Your mileage may vary but it will definitely help you.

Good Luck
-Josh

Josh, thanks very much. I will try it, does the size of the bottle matter or is it just the general circular motion? I am a postman/mail man in the day so when I finish work, thats the pain! Of If I play tennis, the nexy day at work is agony

charliefedererer
07-21-2010, 10:24 AM
No tennis shoe I have ever seen has truly good insoles. Whatever tennis shoe your wife gets make sure she gets good arch support with good insoles like the Superfeet Green, or for support plus cushioning, the Superfeet Orange.
Some end up needing custom orthotics.
And don't have her just use the insoles in her tennis shoes. Proper arch support all day long is key to getting better from plantar fasciitis. That and doing the foot exercises.

markypoo
07-21-2010, 10:27 AM
super feet helped me....i put them in all my shoes....

tjchurchdr
07-21-2010, 11:18 AM
I had bad plantar faciitis last fall, what I had to go was go get insoles. I have since then got a new pair of tennis shoes, and I havent had the problem since

what were the shoes?

parasailing
07-21-2010, 11:48 AM
what were the shoes?

It really depends on your arch type. You need to match your arch type to the proper shoes. When I started playing tennis last year, I had develop early signs of plantar fasciitis. I first switch to more supportive shoes to match my high arch, ie Vapor VI, CB 2.3 which helped greatly. I then added Sof Athlete soles to the shoe as most shoes come with non supportive inserts. Sof Athlete worked better for me than the Green Superfeet which was a bit too stiff.

I would consult with your doctor to see what your options are.

reaxn
07-21-2010, 12:05 PM
Shoes inserts and cortisone injections are pain relievers to a degree, but the best course of action would be to inform your wife that she needs to visit a knowledgable Physical Therapist. There is an underlying impairment that is leading to the plantar fasciitis, and until the impairment is treated appropriately the plantar fasciitis will remain.

TW Staff
07-21-2010, 12:26 PM
Speaking on behalf of a few of us at Tennis Warehouse that have experienced plantar facsiitis, we all used Superfeet insoles (green), and have all gotten better. On top of that, icing as well as stretching. I would take off my shoe and roll a tennis ball underneath my arch to massage/stretch it out on a daily basis. Time of recovery varied.

Spencer, TW.

athiker
07-21-2010, 12:34 PM
I was having issues a while back. Most of what I read at the time indicated the source can be a tight calf muscle putting strain on the Achilles at the heel and arch.

I did two things at the same time so I can't be sure which helped or if both did. I started using Orange Superfeet in my Barricades. I made sure to stretch my calves pretty much anytime I thought about it and still do.

For stretching my calves I do what they called "dynamic" stretching. I stand with the balls of my feet on a stair. First I move up and down basically doing toe raises to warm up the muscles and tendons. Then I lower my heels to stretch out the calf muscles. I also do the basic calf wall stretches, especially after exercising/playing while the muscles are warm and tired to try to keep them from tightening up too much post exercise.

Finally, there are boots people with bad cases wear to bed. I never did this but the theory is that your calves tighten up over night as the small tears in the heel heal and in the morning one rips them again just by walking around. Its a cycle that never allows full proper healing and produces scar tissue. So the boots are supposed to keep your ankle flexed and allow healing in an elongated position preventing re-injury and breaking the cycle.

There is a ton of writing about this out there on the web and many products and inserts marketed as cures...can be hard and time consuming to sift through it all. There's stuff about overpronating and heel posts, stuff about lower heel shoes being better and more natural than higher even though higher can give you more immediate relief, I read stuff saying to make sure when you run you land on your heel for a full stretch and roll forward and stuff saying basically the opposite and you should have almost no heel strike and run like you are barefoot letting the natural arch of your foot work like it is "supposed" to, and on and on. Good luck and watch your wallet.

tennis4josh
07-21-2010, 02:01 PM
Josh, thanks very much. I will try it, does the size of the bottle matter or is it just the general circular motion? I am a postman/mail man in the day so when I finish work, thats the pain! Of If I play tennis, the nexy day at work is agony

I don't think the size should matter as long as you can roll it. What I have is a typical 4 inch diameter bottle one would take to gym or jogging. Rolling the frozen bottle provides takes care of both massage and icing.

-Josh

dak95_00
07-21-2010, 02:49 PM
I had PF really, really bad for a while because I'm a runner.

What didn't work:

I went to the podiatrist and he gave me PowerSteps for less than I could buy them at the running store even factoring in my co-pay. I also had a cortisone shot. The shot worked for a month. I also visited The Good Feet Store and they wanted something in the neighborhood of $500. I said, "No way. I can't afford it." (I am a member of the cheap players club. Besides, they give me a number like works for 99% of patients. I didn't want to pay to risk being the 1%. I'm a mathematician and I want 100% or a full refund.)

How I was cured:

I went to a friend of mine who is a chiropracter. I know. I know. They aren't REAL doctors but neither are podiatrists. Anyways, he said he could get me custom insoles/orthotics, an adjustment (I could do w/o), and a massage from the therapist (these are great) for my co-pay. I thought, "GREAT!" I went and he had me step into some foam thing to measure my feet. He mailed it in. I got them a week or two later. Three months after that I was pain free for the first time in 3 years. I've been pain free for two years now and am back to running close to 30 miles a week aside from playing tennis 4 times a week. Life is good. These orthotics and the fit system looked like the kind I would see in the Skymall magazine on planes. All I know is....It works!

My advice:

Try Superfeet or Powerstep. They probably cost $30. If that doesn't work, call around to a chiropracter. Maybe you can get a fitting, massage, and adjustment for your co-pay. Mine was $15. That's cheaper than my Powersteps were! As I think of it, I might just have to make an appointment for a massage. I'm due!

Good luck. I love my feet and stretch regularly by sitting at the computer and pulling my bare toes back as far as I can and holding them there while I read the many ineresting posts on this forum. Here I go now typing w/ one hand while pulling my toes w/ the other. Stretching is key. The ice rolling never worked for me nor did the tennis or golf balls. They just hurt too much.

denj3325
07-21-2010, 05:44 PM
what were the shoes?

I was using the Nike Vapor V's. I never really looked at the insoles of those until I got the plantar faciitis, but they were the flimsiest insoles I have ever seen.

tjchurchdr
07-21-2010, 06:14 PM
Thanks everybody, this is great advice. Can the superfeet green be bought at a Walgreens or does it need to be ordered? Thanks again.

BounceHitBounceHit
07-21-2010, 06:15 PM
There is a cheap appliance called "The Strausburg (sp?) Sock" that works wonders. Inexpensive custom orthotics are also available from good ol' Dr. Scholls at your local Walmart. They work too. :) BHBH

denj3325
07-21-2010, 06:58 PM
Thanks everybody, this is great advice. Can the superfeet green be bought at a Walgreens or does it need to be ordered? Thanks again.

I know for sure that they sell them at REI, if you have one near you. I would assume they would sell them at most big box sporting goods retailers.

Fedace
07-21-2010, 07:01 PM
I know for sure that they sell them at REI, if you have one near you. I would assume they would sell them at most big box sporting goods retailers.

forget all that stuff. go and get the custom made orthotic from the Orthopedic surgeon. that is the ONLY one that works....

dak95_00
07-21-2010, 07:13 PM
DON'T buy Dr. Scholl's. That stuff is crap! You should be able to buy the Superfeet or Powerstep at a running specific store or any big box sporting goods store.

What do orthotics cost form an Orthopedic? I'll look for your response Fedace as I know you've been posting about PF too. If not, I'll ask one of my newest tennis friends who is a foot & ankle surgeon.

Custom fit is best! I don't care where you get them from. Also, it doesn't matter where you get them or what you get. It will take some time to adjust to wearing them. After you get used to them, then the pain will subside.

denj3325
07-21-2010, 07:45 PM
A lot of people swear by Superfeet, but what the head trainer at the college I go to told me to get were SOLE orthotics. They are more custom fit than the Superfeet, because what you do is heat them up in the oven, put them in your shoes and stand on them for like 5-10 minutes. They are then more custom fit than Superfeet.

I dont know if Superfeet would have worked as well, but I am just letting you know what I did and was recommended to.

Jim A
07-21-2010, 07:55 PM
Lots of info on these boards regarding PF, my 0.02 as always

-a large percentage of options seem to treat the symptom but not the cause, if you have PF something else is the trigger -

-aftermarket insoles can help, superfeet/Sole/etc all are quality options, you want to make sure its stiff and not flexible

-for me my PF/achilles issues were traced to my soleus and hamstring which was pulling all the way down my leg and essentially the PF is the end of the line for those muscles..ART/Deep Tissue/stretching and a regimen of ice/heat worked for me...again..treat the cause not just the symptom...

-Trigger Point Therapy (google it) also has a program that works very well...much like P90x it requires you to follow the program for best results ...

-in the meantime don't go barefoot..and make sure you are wearing shoes with some good support..not the time for flip flops or Nike Free type shoes..

good luck and remember its trial/error...a journal is a great investment when you are injured