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THESEXPISTOL
07-22-2010, 05:16 PM
Rumor has it that this is the name of the new dunlop racquets line:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNUKR9dPZ5s

GameSetMatch
07-22-2010, 05:20 PM
Intriguing.....

biomimetics

Biomimetic refers to human-made processes, substances, devices, or systems that imitate nature. The art and science of designing and building biomimetic apparatus is called biomimetics, and is of special interest to researchers in nanotechnology, robotics, artificial intelligence (AI), the medical industry, and the military.

Bit of a stupid name to call a line of racquets though. Maybe its just an experimental prototype or mock up?

THESEXPISTOL
07-22-2010, 05:22 PM
http://img832.imageshack.us/f/foto0059.jpg/

canuckfan
07-22-2010, 05:24 PM
The 4D line just came out in 2009...seems like a replacement line would come in 2012. I thought the product cycle was 3 years...although some companies, like Head, are every 2 years.

Thanks for the video. Seems legitimate.

Bartelby
07-22-2010, 05:25 PM
That seems more like the confirmation of the rumour. Biomimesis is a little like Youtek, it seems to suggest the racquet and body relationship is more intricate than the traditional concept of an object/racquet as a tool that the subject/ body manipulates in time/space. Tennis is getting philosophical.



Rumor has it that this is the name of the new dunlop racquets line:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNUKR9dPZ5s

dadozen
07-22-2010, 05:25 PM
http://img832.imageshack.us/f/foto0059.jpg/

Well, this is exactly the PJ Verdasco was using during the Davis Cup games.

dadozen
07-22-2010, 06:39 PM
More info about the new Dunlop line:

http://www.dunlop-sport.at/index.jsp?catId=9

( well, not exactly more info, unless you can speak german :D )

tball
07-22-2010, 06:58 PM
They seem confused about the terminology themselves.
The new racquet is referred to as BIOMOMEMTIC:

Nikolay spielt den neuen BIOMOMEMTIC 200 Plus.

Seems appropriate, first they create a racquet, then they think up what label to put on it. Found something promissing and flashy -- Biomimetic, Biomomentic. Not sure of the exact spelling, but who cares...

The interesting part will come later. I bet there will be commercials explaining how Dunlop emmersed themselved in biomimetics and emerged with a wonder constructed on the laws of quantum physics and human neurobiology... Mark my words ...

sargeinaz
07-22-2010, 07:03 PM
Well the 300 Tour paintjob is sharp

Keifers
07-22-2010, 07:24 PM
http://img832.imageshack.us/f/foto0059.jpg/
Mmm... is that the new 300? Looks like it's not a box-beam.

denj3325
07-22-2010, 07:38 PM
Would 4D go on sale when this comes out?

jchl97
07-22-2010, 09:42 PM
The 4D line just came out in 2009...seems like a replacement line would come in 2012. I thought the product cycle was 3 years...although some companies, like Head, are every 2 years.

Thanks for the video. Seems legitimate.

According to Dunlop and other tennis news sources, Verdasco is to be testing out their new technology for 2011, which obviously, Biomimetic it is.

From the images (thanks for sharing though), there are hints to the technologies combined to the name of Biomimetic, which Dunlop claims that the engineering is inspired by the nature, speaking for the name of the technology itself.

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/1440/foto0043.jpg

It also got what they called "Aeroskin". What's that? A mystery for now....

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/7250/foto0062.jpg

...and if you look carefully, they used a new HM5 Carbon. The logo tells me that they are up to some kind of pentagonal bonded carbon or something similar.

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/6483/foto0060.jpg

Anyway just a whole set of new technologies (so quickly?) to replace the Aerogel and Aerogel 4D. Personally, seems great. I like it, at least the PJ is sharp.

Mig1NC
07-23-2010, 03:43 AM
Am I counting 16 mains correctly? Should be awesome if the frame is anything like the 4D Tour. Definately will get a demo.

stufflebean
07-23-2010, 09:29 AM
...and if you look carefully, they used a new HM5 Carbon. The logo tells me that they are up to some kind of pentagonal bonded carbon or something similar.

As far as I know, carbon really likes to form cubic shapes (diamond) or hexagonal shapes (graphite) and doesn't generally do pentagonal bonding, but there are some really cool things involving a form called fullerines. Here, carbon forms into spheroid, ellipsoid, and tube shapes (carbon nanotubes), some of which have pentagonally-bonded carbon.

I think the most promising of these from a racquet manufacturer's point of view is the fairly recent field of "nanobuds" (see Wikipedia here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_nanobud)). Here, fullerine balls are bonded to a carbon nanotube. This gives the nanotube many interesting properties, most of which are frankly beyond my level of understanding (I haven't studied chemistry in years), but one I do understand is that the balls can provide a molecular anchor for the nanotube, changing its mechanical properties (say, how it reacts when present in a tennis racquet frame).

Of course, this all may be a bit exotic for a mainstream racquet manufacturer, and it's possible that they're referring to something quite a bit more pedestrian (5 layers, all aligned differently? a carbon form of aerogel?), but Dunlop has already shown that it's willing to use (if not at least pay lip service to) fairly exotic materials (see aerogel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerogel)), so who knows? Could be interesting.

Keifers
07-23-2010, 11:05 AM
^^^ Very interesting, stufflebean.

I'm a big fan of Dunlop's AG and 4D racquets. I consider them some of the best-performing frames on the market. I sure hope that continues with this next generation of sticks, especially in their 100 and 200 series, with their emphasis on touch, feel and control.

skiracer55
07-23-2010, 11:22 AM
...cachet going on with the current or near term offerings of the major manufacturers. Head has Youtek, among other things, Wilson has BLX, and now Dunlop has a riff on what sounds like nanotechnology. Is this stuff real? I think it's part real, part marketing hype. I just switched to the Head Speed Lite, and I can swear I can feel the D30 technology...but maybe that's just successful marketing on Head's part.

At least some of this has a real, profound effect, and it's interesting that some of the more exotic advances in today's science are showing up in, if you will, relatively low-cost consumer items like skis and tennis rackets. Some interesting discussions in this thread re what Dunlop's new technology consists of, I'd like to hear next what advantages it's supposed to give the consumer...

rovex
07-23-2010, 11:27 AM
The 4D line just came out in 2009...seems like a replacement line would come in 2012. I thought the product cycle was 3 years...although some companies, like Head, are every 2 years.

Thanks for the video. Seems legitimate.

The 4d line obviously didn't sell well.

dadozen
07-23-2010, 11:37 AM
*****. I just bought my 4th and 5th 4D100s, waiting for them to be delivered, am I going to replace all of them when the new line comes out?:lol:

The pj looks really cool

FloridaAG
07-23-2010, 11:51 AM
I still use m-fils - who cares.

ManuGinobili
07-27-2010, 07:57 PM
This racket looks like it just came out of a video game... to be more precise, I just beat Crysis last week and the Aeroskins looks just like the armor drawn in the game LOL

What does that tell us? Not much I guess. No matter how fancy a racket or technology looks, there is a certain manufacturing cost that it cannot exceed. Sadly in these days and time, it means cheap crap going into prestigious (no pun intended) racket lines.

Let's just hope Dunlop stay on the quality track.

AbsolutTennis
07-28-2010, 04:14 PM
Am I counting 16 mains correctly? Should be awesome if the frame is anything like the 4D Tour. Definately will get a demo.

18X20... Exactly like the 300 4D Tour. If you check http://img832.imageshack.us/f/foto0059.jpg/ you´ll see it´s got an 18X20 pattern, exact SAME WEIGHT as the 300 Tour, and 1 sq. in. smaller in head size (pure marketing). THE SPECS ARE ALL WRITTEN ON THE STICK. It seeems the balance point has been altered A LITTLE BIT. Trust me, it won´t make any difference... Same racquet, new PJ... Hopefully the other models will bring some new excitement to the already dull existing lines... No wonder why the 4D didn´t sell...

Power Player
08-02-2010, 08:31 AM
18X20... Exactly like the 300 4D Tour. If you check http://img832.imageshack.us/f/foto0059.jpg/ you´ll see it´s got an 18X20 pattern, exact SAME WEIGHT as the 300 Tour, and 1 sq. in. smaller in head size (pure marketing). THE SPECS ARE ALL WRITTEN ON THE STICK. It seeems the balance point has been altered A LITTLE BIT. Trust me, it won´t make any difference... Same racquet, new PJ... Hopefully the other models will bring some new excitement to the already dull existing lines... No wonder why the 4D didn´t sell...

Are you serious? The 4d line is incredible to hit with if you have the strokes for it. I am glad they are not changing it up too much to be quite honest. You can buy an older version from 5 years back and it will have a smilar enough feel to be able to be swapped with a newer model.

I like that. It hits like butter and is a very well respected racquet. Why change it up?

SirGounder
08-02-2010, 09:45 AM
That is a sick looking frame.

Power Player
08-02-2010, 10:48 AM
^^^

Can't wait to see the 200.

Kimosabi
08-02-2010, 10:59 AM
hope they make another 200 Tour

CHOcobo
08-02-2010, 11:59 AM
it looks great! but i hope they up the weight of the 300.

can't wait to see the 100

AbsolutTennis
08-02-2010, 06:27 PM
Are you serious? The 4d line is incredible to hit with if you have the strokes for it. I am glad they are not changing it up too much to be quite honest. You can buy an older version from 5 years back and it will have a smilar enough feel to be able to be swapped with a newer model.

I like that. It hits like butter and is a very well respected racquet. Why change it up?

You probably missed the fact I'm talking specifically about the 300. VERY LIGHT racquet. 18X20. The ball just doesn't go. IF you try it out you’ll agree with me. Horrible stick. The –TOUR-name must be one of the biggest scams ever. However, if we talk about the 200 (which seems to be the racquet you play with), I would have to agree with you. Great racquet!

kalic
08-02-2010, 11:58 PM
Just another marketing gimmick...

jchl97
08-10-2010, 09:49 PM
They are already "trademarked" according to

http://www.trademarkia.com/biomimetic-77892607.html

GameSetMatch
08-13-2010, 04:02 PM
I've just seen some of the marketing materials and prints for the new line of racquets.

Definitely called Biomimetic (which is a silly name IMO).

They also have the following marketing blurb:-

HM Carbon - presumably high modulus carbon

AeroSkin - "unique surface technology inspired by shark's skin that smoothes airflow over the racket. This reduces aerodynamic drag by up to 25% for increased racket speed and power."

Gecko-Tac - grip like a Gecko lizard presumably!

The marketing guys at Dunlop must be nuts or short of ideas....

Keifers
08-13-2010, 04:32 PM
^^ Did the mktg materials show specific racquet models? Any specs? Will there be Tour versions of the 100 and 200?

Power Player
08-13-2010, 04:36 PM
You probably missed the fact I'm talking specifically about the 300. VERY LIGHT racquet. 18X20. The ball just doesn't go. IF you try it out you’ll agree with me. Horrible stick. The –TOUR-name must be one of the biggest scams ever. However, if we talk about the 200 (which seems to be the racquet you play with), I would have to agree with you. Great racquet!

I just got a 300Tour and I think it is one of the best Dunlop sticks I have ever hit with. I could crush shots with it and I like the weight and balance. It's not "very light". I have mine at 11.6 with a leather grip. Very light to me would be something like 10.6. Regardless, if you really needed the weight you could put lead on it. It is a lighter stick though, but I need that right now due to hurting my wrist.

It is called the tour because it is based on their pro mold. Really amazing stick to me. You can hit heavy shots with it. It is the same weight as the stock apdc.

jchl97
08-14-2010, 12:11 AM
Sneak peek available of their official site, with Dunlop calling it "Inspired by Nature, Perfected by Dunlop". Interesting image.

Automatix
08-14-2010, 01:34 AM
You can look at the new paintjobs here:
http://www.sportcult.nl/hotitems/id88-Inspired_by_nature,_perfected_by_Dunlop.html

Though the pictures are very small. But luckily we can see the AG 4D 100 will have it's successor.

GameSetMatch
08-14-2010, 01:40 AM
^^ Did the mktg materials show specific racquet models? Any specs? Will there be Tour versions of the 100 and 200?

Didn't see any official information on the actual racquets or specs, but from the various leaked photos posted, the 300 Tour seems to be:-

97"
18x20
320g (strung)
Balance: 320mm
RA: 63

Automatix
08-14-2010, 01:41 AM
There is a 200 Tour. No 100 Tour but there's a 100.

rlau
08-14-2010, 01:53 AM
You can look at the new paintjobs here:
http://www.sportcult.nl/hotitems/id88-Inspired_by_nature,_perfected_by_Dunlop.html


Ouch, I can't say I like 'em.... Looks a bit like the current Wilson BLX line...

Hi I'm Ray
08-14-2010, 01:58 AM
Sounds gimmicky but if they're like the 4D line they should have some pretty good frames in there. Maybe this means the 4D 300 will go on sale soon :)

Keifers
08-14-2010, 03:23 AM
There is a 200 Tour. No 100 Tour but there's a 100.
No 100 Tour -- very disappointing. The 100 is an outstanding design; just not heavy enough to play to its full potential.

Kimosabi
08-14-2010, 04:21 AM
the 200 tour almost looks teal from the pictures...

Keifers
08-14-2010, 06:05 AM
the 200 tour almost looks teal from the pictures...
Link?

(10 char)

Kimosabi
08-14-2010, 06:19 AM
it was the link the dude posted above me on the last page, some german blog, maybe scandinavian. by the way, email me back if you get a chance.

Bartelby
08-14-2010, 07:35 AM
Sounds like double Dutch to me and the reference to Amsterdam kind of seals it.

Kimosabi
08-14-2010, 07:51 AM
Sounds like double Dutch to me and the reference to Amsterdam kind of seals it.

yeah sorry I didn't attempt to decipher the text at all I just glanced when scrolling through the pictures. lets hope we can get some more info relating to specs and release dates.

jchl97
08-14-2010, 08:08 AM
I've just seen some of the marketing materials and prints for the new line of racquets.

Definitely called Biomimetic (which is a silly name IMO).

They also have the following marketing blurb:-

HM Carbon - presumably high modulus carbon

AeroSkin - "unique surface technology inspired by shark's skin that smoothes airflow over the racket. This reduces aerodynamic drag by up to 25% for increased racket speed and power."

Gecko-Tac - grip like a Gecko lizard presumably!

The marketing guys at Dunlop must be nuts or short of ideas....

Mind sharing with us? Oh and by the way According to the link leading to a dutch page, I guess that the release date of the 300 Tour (only) will be in november this year.
"Biomimetic 300 serie is verkrijgbaar vanaf 11-2010"

GameSetMatch
08-14-2010, 11:19 AM
Link?

200 Tour

http://www.sportcult.nl/indeximages/hotitems_579_286.jpg

300 Tour

http://a.imageshack.us/img840/9189/foto0040c.jpg

Still not 100% clear whether these would be the final paint designs for the racquet though.

blackfrido
08-14-2010, 05:31 PM
very good pics here;
http://tennis.my/gear/upcoming-dunlop-biomimetic-series/

Woodersen
08-14-2010, 08:13 PM
I don't know about the new paint jobs, but the new Dunlop bags definitely are better than the 4D version.

10ACE
08-14-2010, 08:42 PM
Robredo was using one recently. http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/103308028/Getty-Images-Sport

Mig1NC
08-15-2010, 04:17 AM
very good pics here;
http://tennis.my/gear/upcoming-dunlop-biomimetic-series/

On the throat it mentions a new string, Dunlop Silk. Wonder what this is going to be.

Keifers
08-15-2010, 08:53 AM
I don't know about the new paint jobs, but the new Dunlop bags definitely are better than the 4D version.
Link?

(10 char)

hescobal
08-15-2010, 08:55 AM
Robredo was using one recently. http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/103308028/Getty-Images-Sport

isn't that a 4d 100?

kevoT
08-15-2010, 09:44 AM
200 tour looks really cool! but I still like the PJ on the 4d 200 tour and 18x20

Mig1NC
08-15-2010, 11:50 AM
Link?

(10 char)


You can see it in the background of one of the above photos.

10ACE
08-16-2010, 07:21 AM
isn't that a 4d 100?

No it's not- and you can tell that on the throat it has the new phrase BIOmemmetics. It's the new paint job non the less

see the new dunlop in the head loop http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/102347056/Getty-Images-Sport

another

http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/102347015/Getty-Images-Sport

Keifers
08-16-2010, 08:30 AM
^^^ In the second photo, looks like he's using a 200 Tour (16X18 string pattern).

denj3325
08-16-2010, 08:54 AM
I want to see the 500 version!

10ACE
08-16-2010, 09:53 AM
^^^ In the second photo, looks like he's using a 200 Tour (18X20 string pattern).

? Can't tell if that's a tour under that new paint job- but I believe I count 16x20 (should 16x18 )

Keifers
08-16-2010, 09:54 AM
Yep, just changed it. Thanks.

jchl97
08-16-2010, 09:46 PM
Yep, Dunlop is definitely going to be release the line very soon. The second advertising image is released, still related to the nature. It's covering a Dunlop Biomimetic 100 (green).

visit http://www.dunlopsport.com

jchl97
08-16-2010, 10:09 PM
And check their facebook album

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=201141&id=165056843743

GameSetMatch
08-17-2010, 01:01 AM
^^^ Interesting.

Daveydenko seems to be play with a 300 Tour.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4243330&id=165056843743&ref=fbx_album#!/photo.php?pid=4243330&id=165056843743&ref=fbx_album&fbid=404203313743

10ACE
08-17-2010, 05:30 AM
And check their facebook album

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=201141&id=165056843743

Interesting in those pictures the "skin" Dunlop has mentioned used on the new frames looks more pronounced- this idea that it's lest resistance through the air seems gimmick but at least Dunlop is coming up with "tech" that merchandises along the same line of wilson, and head.

Mig1NC
08-17-2010, 07:18 AM
I remember reading something in aviation news a while back about some new aircraft skin that reduced drag.

I was just googling for it and found this, similar to what I was thinking about, but now quite it:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:7jK8nU59QOQJ:www.alt-energy.info/oil-conservation/sharkskin-paint-reduces-drag-can-be-used-for-airplanes-ships-and-wind-turbines/+new+skin+reduces+drag&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Had to use google cache becuase the site needed a login.

Bartelby
08-17-2010, 08:05 PM
Fraunhofer sounds like the institute that makes Volkl's DNX.




I remember reading something in aviation news a while back about some new aircraft skin that reduced drag.

I was just googling for it and found this, similar to what I was thinking about, but now quite it:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:7jK8nU59QOQJ:www.alt-energy.info/oil-conservation/sharkskin-paint-reduces-drag-can-be-used-for-airplanes-ships-and-wind-turbines/+new+skin+reduces+drag&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Had to use google cache becuase the site needed a login.

10ACE
08-18-2010, 07:14 AM
I remember reading something in aviation news a while back about some new aircraft skin that reduced drag.

I was just googling for it and found this, similar to what I was thinking about, but now quite it:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:7jK8nU59QOQJ:www.alt-energy.info/oil-conservation/sharkskin-paint-reduces-drag-can-be-used-for-airplanes-ships-and-wind-turbines/+new+skin+reduces+drag&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Had to use google cache becuase the site needed a login.

Ah good read, thanks for sharing that- would be cool if the paint had texture for the "skin"

Winky
08-18-2010, 03:07 PM
I've heard from reliable sources that the racquet actually fuses with your body and becomes permanently joined to your hand.

GameSetMatch
08-18-2010, 03:15 PM
I just noticed that my local place has reduced the price of some of the current 4D range (though not the 300T) presumably in anticipation of the new line.

Wonder whether its worth picking up another 200 16x19 or waiting for the new range?

Hidious
08-18-2010, 05:06 PM
I've heard from reliable sources that the racquet actually fuses with your body and becomes permanently joined to your hand.

That is also what my rep told me. He added that it's very important to demo with a glove first as the removal process is rather costly (in case you don't like it).

Mig1NC
08-18-2010, 05:38 PM
That is also what my rep told me. He added that it's very important to demo with a glove first as the removal process is rather costly (in case you don't like it).

Well, you see it's like a Lizard's tail. You can cut it off, but it just grows back.

namartens
08-21-2010, 10:25 AM
You can look at the new paintjobs here:
http://www.sportcult.nl/hotitems/id88-Inspired_by_nature,_perfected_by_Dunlop.html

Though the pictures are very small. But luckily we can see the AG 4D 100 will have it's successor.

Funny. I visited this site earlier and there were pictures of the actual new frames and now they are replaced by marketing pictures of the new technology :)

rovex
08-21-2010, 10:38 AM
I've heard from reliable sources that the racquet actually fuses with your body and becomes permanently joined to your hand.

What is this nonsense? Fuses with your body? :) lol.

The Dampener
08-21-2010, 10:44 AM
I just noticed that my local place has reduced the price of some of the current 4D range (though not the 300T) presumably in anticipation of the new line.

That's the one saving grace, GSM, of manufacturers turning over their technologies every year or two. It's a little annoying, but it makes the previous generation far more affordable.

mtommer
08-21-2010, 11:31 AM
I remember reading something in aviation news a while back about some new aircraft skin that reduced drag.

Oh, the technology is sound but I'd be willing to bet that lab tests of swings, even at the speed pros swing at, would not yield any appreciable differences in speeds of racquets with the paint scheme versus those without. But, it all sounds good on paper though. :D

jchl97
08-24-2010, 03:28 AM
From this Japanese website

http://blog.livedoor.jp/tennisplacepeer/archives/51590043.html

The contents (Google Translate)

"Baiomimeteikkusu (BIOMIMETICS) is
"Nature and Biological (BIO)" a mechanism "Imitation (MIMETIC) in science and technology,
The concept is
Learn from nature, human society to take advantage of it

- Inspired by an airplane wing flight of birds of prey
- High-speed train noise and reduced air resistance modeled Kingfisher
Bulletproof vest - an imitation pearl robust structure
- Strong honeycomb honeycomb structure that mimics the body's F1 car
- Fast-inspired swimsuit shark skin"

And further information is due to be released in September.

jchl97
08-24-2010, 03:29 AM
Funny. I visited this site earlier and there were pictures of the actual new frames and now they are replaced by marketing pictures of the new technology :)

Glad I copied them, and oh, I just discovered something: the three marketing represents the technologies they are going to use: Sharkskin, Beehive (the material I guess) and Gecko (Gecko Tac Grip)

HenryS12
08-24-2010, 09:25 AM
Doesn't that PJ looks like a MicroGel copycat??

jdubbs10
08-24-2010, 10:57 AM
Just saw this posted from twitter
http://twitpic.com/2hsx5c

jchl97
08-24-2010, 10:19 PM
Just saw this posted from twitter
http://twitpic.com/2hsx5c

New marketing material: Biomimetic behind the scene

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wPgAvs695Q

And finally, the introduction

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS6v4CdZ7kc

And follow this guy on twitter, he will post sneak peeks of Biomimetics once there are 25 followers.

jchl97
08-24-2010, 11:11 PM
Latest news:

Dunlop Biomimetic introduction and catalog released out:

Aeroskin (Shark) for 25% less drag

HM6 Carbon (Beehive) for enhanced stability and feel, 10% frequency reduction

Gecko Tac Grip (Gecko) for 50% more tac for enhanced precision and control

100: Black/Green
200 Plus/Tour: Light Blue/Black - Davydenko
300 Tour/300: Red/Black - Melzer/Verdasco
300 Lite: Red/Orange/Yellow
500: Yellow/Black - Almagro
600: Black/White - Robredo
600 Lite: White/Black - Cibulkova

CHOcobo
08-24-2010, 11:18 PM
Latest news:

Dunlop Biomimetic introduction leaked out:

Aeroskin (Shark) for 25% less drag

HM6 Carbon (Beehive) for enhanced stability and feel, 10% frequency reduction

Gecko Tac Grip (Gecko) for 50% more tac for enhanced precision and control

100: Black/Green
200: Light Blue/Black - Davydenko (According to image in video)
200 Tour: ? - Melzer (According to video)
300 Tour: Red/Black - Verdasco
300 Lite: Red/Orange/Yellow
500: Yellow/Black - Almagro
600: Black/White - Robredo
600 Lite: White/Black - Cibulkova

that black/green looks sick. i just hope the sw won't be so low.

jchl97
08-24-2010, 11:46 PM
Surprised to realize materials released and leaked so quickly, two months before the release

Yep, the catalog:
http://DunlopCatalog.com/Tennis.aspx

And some news:
http://www.southern.usta.com/inspired_by_nature_perfected_by_dunlop/

CHOcobo
08-25-2010, 12:40 AM
Surprised to realize materials released and leaked so quickly, two months before the release

Yep, the catalog:
http://DunlopCatalog.com/Tennis.aspx

And some news:
http://www.southern.usta.com/inspired_by_nature_perfected_by_dunlop/

wow. the weight for the 300 and 200 is lowered. doesn't look so good for the 100. ill probably just stick to my AG series.

GameSetMatch
08-25-2010, 01:01 AM
New marketing material: Biomimetic behind the scene

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wPgAvs695Q


THey really do need to get Verdsasco a new t-shirt. He's seems to have been wearing that green one for decades.

un6a
08-25-2010, 01:02 AM
Specs on the new 200 plus looks interesting:

100 inch head size
with tiny flexy beam and 18x20 pattern
and moderate heft (327g strung weight)

GameSetMatch
08-25-2010, 01:11 AM
2011 Biomimetic racquet catalogue (including specs):

http://dunlopcatalog.com/Tennis.aspx

I'd say the most interesting thing might be the strings. Have a look at Hex-Fibre .

GameSetMatch
08-25-2010, 01:18 AM
wow. the weight for the 300 and 200 is lowered

The 300 has always been 305g. The specs are no different.

SteveI
08-25-2010, 02:53 AM
I still use m-fils - who cares.

I also...:-)

ManuGinobili
08-25-2010, 03:38 AM
no 500 Tour...

Mig1NC
08-25-2010, 04:00 AM
no 500 Tour...

Yeah, but they did say they would be adding more models as the year goes on.

I have faith we will see a 500T (and still hoping for a 400).

jchl97
08-25-2010, 05:06 AM
Yeah, but they did say they would be adding more models as the year goes on.

I have faith we will see a 500T (and still hoping for a 400).

Actually, All, from 100 to 600, will be released. The ones listed in the catalog might due to be released in November, I believe.

jdubbs10
08-25-2010, 06:39 AM
[QUOTE=

I'd say the most interesting thing might be the strings. Have a look at Hex-Fibre .[/QUOTE]

+1 - I agree. The string and grip lines looks great

The Baseline
08-25-2010, 06:45 AM
Dunlop is really doing it. These new frames are works of art. Its about time more people take a look at dunlop and ditch those babolat aerodrives and puredrives.

Hidious
08-25-2010, 07:42 AM
They launch this new BioM line a little fast though, i feel like the 4D 100 just came out. Is it just me or did this 4D line get replaced incredibly fast?

Fedace
08-25-2010, 07:47 AM
Tell me there is no Aerogel in this. Aerogel is crap.

Fedace
08-25-2010, 07:49 AM
that black/green looks sick. i just hope the sw won't be so low.

Are you not well.??? SW being low is what sells. Just Add 2 strips of Lead tape to the head area and you will have what you want. if they make the SW too high to begin with, then you can't take them OUT. but YOu can always ADD.

Fedace
08-25-2010, 07:50 AM
That new Cibulkova Lite looks GOOD. lets hope it has SW of 299 or so.

yourname1245
08-25-2010, 07:53 AM
hey 2011 link is gone!! got any other links to view it?
thanks
sal

HenryS12
08-25-2010, 08:06 AM
Not exactly an impressive line. Why do you need such a big head size when the pattern's tight on the 200 plus? :confused:

yourname1245
08-25-2010, 08:10 AM
i cant see the line wat happend to the link??

Bartelby
08-25-2010, 08:15 AM
Because it's a version of Davydenko's Prince ozone pro tour. The previous 200 plus was much, much lighter.



Not exactly an impressive line. Why do you need such a big head size when the pattern's tight on the 200 plus? :confused:

Gasolina
08-25-2010, 08:44 AM
Can anybody remember the specs for the new 200 Tour?

Mig1NC
08-25-2010, 10:02 AM
Did anybody screenshot or otherwise save the 2011 catalog before it was taken down?

valerio
08-25-2010, 10:13 AM
anyone have saved the 2011 catalog??

CHOcobo
08-25-2010, 10:23 AM
The 300 has always been 305g. The specs are no different.

you mean 309g ;-)

Are you not well.??? SW being low is what sells. Just Add 2 strips of Lead tape to the head area and you will have what you want. if they make the SW too high to begin with, then you can't take them OUT. but YOu can always ADD.
i guess that works too. i added 7g at the neck of my AG100 to maintain the balance and still the felt the sw wasn't enough. i took 2g off at the neck of my AG300 and felt the sw significantly drop.

anyone have saved the 2011 catalog??

i would of saved it if i knew.

Keifers
08-25-2010, 11:58 AM
Just saw this posted from twitter
http://twitpic.com/2hsx5c
This is the first close-up pic of AeroSkin I've seen. Reminds me of the dimples on golf balls that help them to fly further by reducing the laminar flow around the ball as it travels.

Fedace
08-25-2010, 12:19 PM
This is the first close-up pic of AeroSkin I've seen. Reminds me of the dimples on golf balls that help them to fly further by reducing the laminar flow around the ball as it travels.

Is therer any Aerogel in this frame ?????:confused:

GameSetMatch
08-25-2010, 03:49 PM
^^^ Yes, loads of it. About 500kg of Aerogel per cubic inch of hexagonal HM6 carbon. In fact, they put Aerogel in the grip too and coated the strings with it. The more the better!

The Baseline
08-25-2010, 05:45 PM
dunlop will overtake babolat, mark my words. its only a matter of time.

Fedace
08-25-2010, 05:47 PM
dunlop will overtake babolat, mark my words. its only a matter of time.

LMAO,,,,just not long ago,,,Dunlop was about 2 seconds away from going OUT of business........ don't think so on overtaking babolat..:)

Fedace
08-25-2010, 05:47 PM
^^^ Yes, loads of it. About 500kg of Aerogel per cubic inch of hexagonal HM6 carbon. In fact, they put Aerogel in the grip too and coated the strings with it. The more the better!

Are you sure ?? where in the Ad does it say that ??

Fedace
08-25-2010, 05:52 PM
Tommy Robredo is Playing Awsome with that new biometric racket at the NEw Haven event. It must be a great Racket..

jchl97
08-26-2010, 12:56 AM
Are you sure ?? where in the Ad does it say that ??

The catalog says that "The HM6 Carbon is placed between layers of Aerogel enhanced carbon to create an incredibly stable construction." I take their words that they put "layers of Aerogel" inside those Biomimetics.

niktub
08-26-2010, 01:03 AM
Johnny mac could have switched to a new paintjob(300 tour?)

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/7577/8adaf7450d94e2e00e25d5f.jpg

jchl97
08-26-2010, 01:04 AM
Which means, it's literally an "Aerogel HM6", speaking of the generations of Aerogel, starting from original then 4D. Dunlops are getting stronger. Glad that they add more technologies to create a concept, which I like (some of you think it's nonsense though), where Wilson and Head are already doing it with their BLX and Youtek line.

DEH
08-26-2010, 04:04 AM
Can anybody remember the specs for the new 200 Tour?
I think it was 327grams strung, 31.5 balance and it didn't say if that was strung or not with a flex of 63ra and 18x20 string pattern.

Bartelby
08-26-2010, 04:07 AM
that was the 200 plus



I think it was 327grams strung, 31.5 balance and it didn't say if that was strung or not with a flex of 63ra and 18x20 string pattern.

jdubbs10
08-26-2010, 05:19 AM
dunlop will overtake babolat, mark my words. its only a matter of time.

+1, another picture was posted on https://twitter.com/dunlop_usa

niktub
08-26-2010, 05:52 AM
Johnny mac could have switched to a new paintjob(300 tour?)

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/7577/8adaf7450d94e2e00e25d5f.jpg

It looks like a 18x20...:neutral:

Keifers
08-26-2010, 06:00 AM
Looking again at the pics of the new red and new blue frames, I just realized that these are no longer box beam designs.

That's a significant change -- done, I'm sure, for a more aerodynamic profile. But I sure hope the wonderful feel of the AG and 4D sticks has not been compromised!

DEH
08-26-2010, 07:37 AM
that was the 200 plus

Yes it was the 200 plus sorry I thought that what he wanted. My bad

Automatix
08-26-2010, 02:13 PM
Courtesy of RacquetDoctor...

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ZQ4xziZoF5k/THbUwX8FHgI/AAAAAAAAAbo/RTTm2r4wNrE/s800/600Specs.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ZQ4xziZoF5k/THbUwcf-N3I/AAAAAAAAAbs/VIYUWQMWkBw/s800/600LiteSpecs.jpg

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ZQ4xziZoF5k/THbUwqoMAsI/AAAAAAAAAbw/6wbmfKy6OQ0/s800/300TourSpecs.jpg

Automatix
08-26-2010, 02:13 PM
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ZQ4xziZoF5k/THbUwrY9IxI/AAAAAAAAAb0/JelWGi-iCOQ/s800/300Specs.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_ZQ4xziZoF5k/THbUwn326DI/AAAAAAAAAb4/zONaa034w-0/s912/200PlusSpecs.jpg

FloridaAG
08-26-2010, 02:19 PM
Seems like they are changing the packages - the 200+ has a 100 inch head but 18x20 string pattern

The 300T has a 97 inch head and 18/20 and the 300 has a 98 inch head and 16x 19 but only weighs 305 strung and 290 unstrung.

IS there a 16x19 in the 200 line?
Interesting.

acintya
08-26-2010, 02:35 PM
uu biomimetic 600 lite - 27.25

a good choice for two handed forehand?

vs prince exo3 red

Fedace
08-26-2010, 03:41 PM
uu biomimetic 600 lite - 27.25

a good choice for two handed forehand?

vs prince exo3 red

600 lite is my new racket if it doesn't feel too much like the Aerogel. and what about the 700 line,,,where are the specs for those ????

Man these rackets are LITE. even the player's frame 200 is only 11 oz....:)

Devilito
08-26-2010, 04:24 PM
the black and green paintjob of the 100 looks great. I wonder when that'll be out. I need a 3rd 100 thinking of holding out for the Biomimetic version. No big rush

10ACE
08-27-2010, 05:30 AM
+1, another picture was posted on https://twitter.com/dunlop_usa

The black mat a paint on the 300 looks beefy- just looks strong!

jdubbs10
08-27-2010, 05:38 AM
A close up of the Black Widow string was posted on the twitter page.. check it out.. https://twitter.com/dunlop_usa

Mig1NC
08-27-2010, 06:16 AM
A close up of the Black Widow string was posted on the twitter page.. check it out.. https://twitter.com/dunlop_usa


Holy crap. That stuff has some seriously well defined edges.

jdubbs10
08-27-2010, 06:43 AM
Holy crap. That stuff has some seriously well defined edges.

I know, i think im becoming more excited about the string and grip line Dunlop have coming out

BobFL
08-27-2010, 07:19 AM
I saw 300T yesterday and I was really disappointed in pj. It looked very cheap. That "skin" looked nice but mirror-like finish is plain ugly.

Mig1NC
08-27-2010, 07:40 AM
I saw 300T yesterday and I was really disappointed in pj. It looked very cheap. That "skin" looked nice but mirror-like finish is plain ugly.

What did the texture of the skin feel like?

Gasolina
08-27-2010, 08:59 AM
Is there a 200 Tour or is the 200 Plus "it"

BobFL
08-27-2010, 09:01 AM
It felt like a hundreds of tiny bubbles :)

Bartelby
08-27-2010, 09:07 AM
yes, the tour is melzer - the plus is davydenko - theyll probably release the catalogue on monday



Is there a 200 Tour or is the 200 Plus "it"

yourname1245
08-27-2010, 10:46 AM
I was at the open yesterday davydenko had his prince ozone again while hittin wit solderling. Also verdasco had a all black frame that was not a dunlop probably his technifibre, I know that it wasn't cuse the guy that was with him had the new biomimetric and it was sooo different then wat he was playing.

Power Player
08-27-2010, 12:09 PM
That 600 looks pretty awesome.

jchl97
08-28-2010, 12:07 AM
This is the official release of the Biomimetic:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/36519059/Dunlop-Biomimetic-Rackets

ShiroRm
08-28-2010, 03:35 AM
uff! where's the 100?
It's still unclear if it has a decent paintjob or not

Mig1NC
08-28-2010, 03:53 AM
They've shown pictures of the 100 and 500 in the past, but not in the recent anouncements.

slagvaerk
08-28-2010, 04:53 AM
http://www.southern.usta.com/inspired_by_nature_perfected_by_dunlop/

Wow! I must say that this description really features all the "hot" key words of any (bio)material science research program dating from the year 2000 and onwards (I only miss "nano" - but that has probably been used by so many tennis companies already)...

I guess most surface/material changes in the new line will have relatively minor effects on playability (which is a good thing - I am a die hard 300-series fan since the release of 300G - currently playing with the 4D 300 Tour). The change of grip is probably to the better (but then - I guess most people use overgrips to ascertain tackiness?).

Please do not missunderstand me as being negative to technical advances - my point is: When will us - the tennis consumers - reward the racket companies also for concistency? When very popular models have been launched and have found a large community of loyal users - then I want to be able to buy an identical racket for several years and not only during a few seasons (the same goes for shoes btw). I do not want to have to buy four new rackets every time I need only one replacement racket.

With this being said - Dunlop make very good frames, they have a good selection of different frames, and the company should also have credit for keeping their pricing at more moderate levels than some of their competitors. I would be even more loyal to Dunlop if they parallelled the new ranges with a huge stock of older popular frames as well!

jchl97
08-28-2010, 09:37 PM
uff! where's the 100?
It's still unclear if it has a decent paintjob or not

The 100 and the 500s aren't going to be released this year. Not yet.

Mig1NC
08-29-2010, 04:26 AM
The 100 and the 500s aren't going to be released this year. Not yet.

Are they shooting for a release around the Australian Open?

brownbearfalling
08-29-2010, 04:54 AM
They might as well call the "200 plus" the biomimetic racquet the Dunlop "biomimetic Davydenko". Making the "200" racquet a 100 sq inch is confusing.

JoshyS
08-29-2010, 05:43 AM
Are there any pics of the 100 still floating around online. I cant seem to find any.

Also, sorry to deviate but it seems like i dont have the option of PMing. GameSetMatch, where abouts in nottingham are you based? Ive recently graduated from the university of nottingham and will be moving back next week as ive found a place there and im looking for a hitting partner. I'll be living around the lenton area so I can easily make it to the tennis centre or the uni courts. Let me know if your intrested.

prjacobs
08-29-2010, 01:14 PM
I have to say that the more I see these, the more distinctly unimpressed I am with the colour scheme. It just looks like black/red or black/blue zebra strips. Disappointly unadventurous.

Good link though.

When going to this site, I was asked if www/tapinn.com could use my present location. This is not good...
Sorry, this actually relates to the post by jch197. The site dunlopbuzz.com directed me to www.tapinn.com.

jdubbs10
08-29-2010, 05:34 PM
When going to this site, I was asked if www/tapinn.com could use my present location. This is not good...
Sorry, this actually relates to the post by jch197. The site dunlopbuzz.com directed me to www.tapinn.com.

The dunlopbuzz.com web page is a mirror of the mobile page you get when you scan the QR code they launched at the launch party sat. night in NY. I cant find right now, but have a picture of the QR code at my office. I will post in the morning so you can scan it with your smart phone.

jdubbs10
08-30-2010, 05:04 AM
Here is an image of the QR code you would scan with your smart phone. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/jdubbs10/QR_Code_For_Banners.jpg

Power Player
08-30-2010, 06:07 AM
Is verdasco going with the 300 tour or 300? I thought he used a 16x19 pattern but I wasn't sure.

niktub
08-30-2010, 06:11 AM
His racquets(Dunlop or Major) "Camilla and Fernando" are painted like the 300 colorwise with the specs of the 300 tour as well.That's a bit confusing...:)

Power Player
08-30-2010, 06:34 AM
ahh..so he does play 18x20 then? I know he is a devotee of the legendary major/tfibre/dunlop300T mold. Hopefully the new ones will stay consistent.

johnnymacfan
08-30-2010, 06:44 AM
Here's a pic from the Biomimetic launch party in NYC on Saturday night. Dunlop had all the players behind the bar serving the invitees drinks...You ever been served a drink by John McEnroe and Fernando Verdasco? I have! :)

http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac174/johnnymacfan/photo.jpg

Kimosabi
08-30-2010, 09:37 AM
that party sounds awesome.

Fedace
08-30-2010, 09:39 AM
When is TW going to have this Racket,,,,I can't wait to buy it..............??????????????????

niktub
08-30-2010, 10:40 AM
That's hilarious!Dunlop rocks.
Fernando is still playing with his black Major and has not switched to 18x20.
If i am not wrong:?...

bri129
08-30-2010, 05:49 PM
Does anyone know when the racquets will be released, especially the 300 Tour??

dadozen
08-30-2010, 06:02 PM
Nice pic!!!

johnnymacfan
08-30-2010, 06:37 PM
Does anyone know when the racquets will be released, especially the 300 Tour??

They told us at the event that the racquets begin shipping in early November. They also said that for the new 300, they had gone back to the original 300G mold, which they had not used in the last couple of generations. I'm jacked bc I always seem to go back to my 300G's and I cannot find more of them anywhere!

Bartelby
08-30-2010, 07:32 PM
jacked? your slang dictionary must have been jacked!



They told us at the event that the racquets begin shipping in early November. They also said that for the new 300, they had gone back to the original 300G mold, which they had not used in the last couple of generations. I'm jacked bc I always seem to go back to my 300G's and I cannot find more of them anywhere!

johnnymacfan
08-30-2010, 07:54 PM
jacked? your slang dictionary must have been jacked!

Would it be better for you if I said I was super duper excited? Don't be a tool.

Fedace
08-30-2010, 08:06 PM
Are the DEMOS in the local clubs now ????? even the demos not out yet ?????

Fedace
08-30-2010, 08:08 PM
Ohhh, for those of you that live and die by the Player's frames,,,,TENNIS magazine said these frames were Not made with Very advanced players in mind. but more for intermediate to Advanced wannabes.
That explains the light weight even for the 300 and 200 series.....

Bartelby
08-30-2010, 08:48 PM
You can use all the slang you want, but I'm just noting that I don't think I've ever heard the word jacked used for excited.

So are you taking 'jack off' as in 'masturbate' and using it as 'excite'? It's not the usual thing to do in my 'hood'.



Would it be better for you if I said I was super duper excited? Don't be a tool.

Don't Let It Bounce
08-30-2010, 09:22 PM
I think I've heard "jacked" used that way. I can imagine fans of the 200 series objecting to it, but a 100 sq inch BM200 with room to customize... hey, I'm wanked.

The paint jobs look good. Which would be a better name, you think: "Biomimetic 300" or "Dunlop Microgel RD7"?

pe3brain
08-30-2010, 10:07 PM
You can use all the slang you want, but I'm just noting that I don't think I've ever heard the word jacked used for excited.

So are you taking 'jack off' as in 'masturbate' and using it as 'excite'? It's not the usual thing to do in my 'hood'.

This is why we have urban dictionary: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jacked Look at definition #7.

Bartelby
08-30-2010, 10:22 PM
Never used nor heard it used that way. I did look up the dictionary but didn't roll down the page far enough. I still think it comes from 'to jack off' and is a newer usage, although the dictionary suggests it is a synonym of pumped, which has probably become somewhat passe. I always assumed it had meaning #4, which is almost the opposite of #7, but I'm not a gym junkie. Hence, the original use of the term seemed nonsensical.



This is why we have urban dictionary: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jacked Look at definition #7.

ManuGinobili
08-30-2010, 11:57 PM
Guys please don't hijack this thread anymore and move the jackedness to a private email exchange or something

Bartelby
08-31-2010, 12:14 AM
The trouble is that nothing has happened of any interest on this thread for quite a while and if anyone actually uses a new dunlop then I hope they start a new thread.



Guys please don't hijack this thread anymore and move the jackedness to a private email exchange or something

johnnymacfan
08-31-2010, 07:07 AM
The trouble is that nothing has happened of any interest on this thread for quite a while and if anyone actually uses a new dunlop then I hope they start a new thread.

They gave us each a racquet at the Launch Party as well as some new stringst to try. I ended up with a Bio 300 and put a set of their new Black Widow in it (see pix)...tested it for just a little while last night and it was awesome. I am JACKED about using it further...Took it to the guy who strings my racquet and here are the specs:

Weight: 318g
Swingweight: 319
RA: 63
http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac174/johnnymacfan/BM300a.jpg

http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac174/johnnymacfan/BM300.jpg

Strung the Black Widow at 61 and loved it. Surprising that I didn't need to string it down like other polys.

Power Player
08-31-2010, 07:21 AM
SW is higher then the last 300s and the last 300T. I am interested in seeing how the 300T's SW is because the 4Ds needed a little lead before they really showed their true colors.

Fedace
08-31-2010, 12:35 PM
I'm trying to figure out your age...I was thinking 12-15, but if you were that age, you'd know what it means to "get jacked" about something. Then again, if you like talking about STDs, etc from AC/DC songs, that's a whole different deal.

You have me stumped. You gotta tell me. I'd be almost as stoked to find out how old you are as I am to give this new Bio 300 a proper test drive this weekend!

are the demos available already ?? i couldn't find any in the local clubs or pro shops.:confused:

jdubbs10
08-31-2010, 01:12 PM
are the demos available already ?? i couldn't find any in the local clubs or pro shops.:confused:

Ask your club or pro shops if they are going to carry the Biomimetic line and if they are, they should be getting them in early to mid november.

ManuGinobili
08-31-2010, 09:16 PM
They gave us each a racquet at the Launch Party as well as some new stringst to try. I ended up with a Bio 300 and put a set of their new Black Widow in it (see pix)...tested it for just a little while last night and it was awesome. I am JACKED about using it further...Took it to the guy who strings my racquet and here are the specs:

Weight: 318g
Swingweight: 319
RA: 63
Strung the Black Widow at 61 and loved it. Surprising that I didn't need to string it down like other polys.

The PJ looks better in your pics than in the catalog!

Grut
09-01-2010, 06:33 AM
It is possile for one of you to post some pics of the Biomimetic 200 plus?
If she looks better is real as the 300...

*breaksracquet
09-01-2010, 06:55 AM
Sorry, am I looking at this correctly or is the PJ along the throat a Matte finish? It doesn't seem to "glisten" like the rest of the frame. IMO, the frame looks sick....

vsbabolat
09-01-2010, 07:23 AM
Yes, but a catalogue was put up and then Dunlop took it down so essentially this whole thread is about waiting around.

No it's not. I guess you were to busy arguing for your own entertainment to have a look here?
http://dunlopbuzz.com/

All in the info you could want or need.

You are one of those people (I use the term loosely) from the rants and raves that just like to annoy people.

jchl97
09-01-2010, 07:29 AM
The 2011 catalog is out again, and for Dunlop fans, especially in new techs, I strongly recommend you to download it.

Bartelby
09-01-2010, 07:31 AM
They've now put the catalogue back up because they've now officially released the racquets.

You're one of those officious types that like to pretend they are the members of a self-appointed judiciary.



No it's not. I guess you were to busy arguing for your own entertainment to have a look here?
http://dunlopbuzz.com/

All in the info you could want or need.

You are one of those people (I use the term loosely) from the rants and raves that just like to annoy people.

vsbabolat
09-01-2010, 07:35 AM
They've now put the catalogue back up because they've now officially released the racquets.

You're one of those officious types that like to pretend they are the members of a self-appointed judiciary.

The Dunlop buzz site has been up for days. Since at least Saturday.

You are consistently wrong.

jdubbs10
09-01-2010, 08:03 AM
i have been following their twitter page and saw this picture posted this morning. I think cool looking http://twitpic.com/2k8z9b

Hope that is relevant to the thread unlike the last page of posts

CHOcobo
09-01-2010, 09:09 AM
catalog is out again but how do i download it?

vsbabolat
09-01-2010, 09:17 AM
VSBAB..did you ever hit with the 300? If so, I was wondering if it was more powerful then the 300T...I am considering getting one to compare. It obviously has a different string pattern too.

I have hit with the AG 300 non 4D. I found it to have a little more pop than the 300 Tour. The 300 has a slightly wider beam than the 300 Tour.

diredesire
09-01-2010, 10:46 AM
keep it on topic, if you want to argue with each other, take it off the board, or I will assist you in doing so.

rovex
09-04-2010, 07:44 AM
Here's a pic from the Biomimetic launch party in NYC on Saturday night. Dunlop had all the players behind the bar serving the invitees drinks...You ever been served a drink by John McEnroe and Fernando Verdasco? I have! :)

http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac174/johnnymacfan/photo.jpg

Haha, verdasco is leaving Dunlop at the end of the open, what a waste of time for Dunlop.

Bartelby
09-04-2010, 08:51 AM
Loyalty never pays - under any circumstances!



Haha, verdasco is leaving Dunlop at the end of the open, what a waste of time for Dunlop.

johnnymacfan
09-04-2010, 08:53 AM
Loyalty never pays - under any circumstances!

Based on what information?

hoodjem
09-04-2010, 09:02 AM
The rackets that will feature the new technology are the Biomimetic 200 Plus, the Biomimetic 300, the Biomimetic 300 Tour, the Biomimetic 600 and the Biomimetic 600 Lite. (See accompanying press release for details on each of the rackets).

Kai Nitsche, Vice President and General Manager of Dunlop Racket Sports, said, “The Biomimetic range gives Dunlop some tremendous momentum heading into 2011. Each racket combines a tangible technological benefit with a sharp cosmetic. Our entire Tour Team is excited to switch to them for the 2011 season, and fans can make the switch before that- starting in mid November, when the rackets hit stores.”

hoodjem
09-04-2010, 09:15 AM
SPECS on Biomimetic series--

200 PLUS
Player Type - 3.5-5.5
Length - 27"
Head Size - 100 sq. inch
Strung Weight - 327g / 11.53oz
Unstrung Weight - 312g / 11oz
Stiffness / RA - 63
Balance - 315mm / Head Light
Beam Width - 20mm
String Pattern - 18 x 20
String Tension - 55-65lbs / 25-29kgs

300 Tour
Player Type - 3.5-5.5
Length - 27"
Head Size - 97 sq. inch
Strung Weight - 320g / 11.28oz
Unstrung Weight - 305g / 10.75oz
Stiffness / RA - 64
Balance - 320mm / Head Light
Beam Width - 20mm
String Pattern - 18 x 20
String Tension - 55-65lbs / 25-29kgs

300
Player Type - 3.0-5.0
Length - 27"
Head Size - 98 sq. inch
Strung Weight - 305g / 10.75oz
Unstrung Weight - 290g / 10.22oz
Stiffness / RA - 65
Balance - 330mm / Even
Beam Width - 21mm
String Pattern - 16 x 19
String Tension - 55-65lbs / 25-29kgs

600
Player Type - 3.0-5.0
Length - 27"
Head Size - 102 sq. inch
Strung Weight - 298g / 10.51oz
Unstrung Weight - 283g / 9.98oz
Stiffness / RA - 70
Balance - 330mm / Even
Beam Width - 25 - 25 - 22.5mm
String Pattern - 16 x 19
String Tension - 55-65lbs / 25-29kgs

600 Lite
Player Type - 3.0-4.5
Length - 27.25"
Head Size - 105 sq. inch
Strung Weight - 290g / 10.22oz
Unstrung Weight - 275g / 9.70oz
Stiffness / RA - 68
Balance - 345mm / Head Heavy
Beam Width - 22-26-24mm
String Pattern - 16 x 19
String Tension - 55-65lbs / 25-29kgs

Damn! I don't see a racquet I can play with.
Hey Dunlop: why so limited?

Dechizen
09-04-2010, 09:35 AM
http://dunlopcatalog.com/Tennis.aspx

GameSetMatch
09-10-2010, 04:09 PM
Ohhh, for those of you that live and die by the Player's frames,,,,TENNIS magazine said these frames were Not made with Very advanced players in mind. but more for intermediate to Advanced wannabes.

That covers 99% of the people on these message boards including you.

GameSetMatch
09-10-2010, 04:13 PM
Do we have a release date for the new range yet for Europe, US etc?

Fedace
09-10-2010, 04:20 PM
SPECS on Biomimetic series--

200 PLUS
Player Type - 3.5-5.5
Length - 27"
Head Size - 100 sq. inch
Strung Weight - 327g / 11.53oz
Unstrung Weight - 312g / 11oz
Stiffness / RA - 63
Balance - 315mm / Head Light
Beam Width - 20mm
String Pattern - 18 x 20
String Tension - 55-65lbs / 25-29kgs

300 Tour
Player Type - 3.5-5.5
Length - 27"
Head Size - 97 sq. inch
Strung Weight - 320g / 11.28oz
Unstrung Weight - 305g / 10.75oz
Stiffness / RA - 64
Balance - 320mm / Head Light
Beam Width - 20mm
String Pattern - 18 x 20
String Tension - 55-65lbs / 25-29kgs

300
Player Type - 3.0-5.0
Length - 27"
Head Size - 98 sq. inch
Strung Weight - 305g / 10.75oz
Unstrung Weight - 290g / 10.22oz
Stiffness / RA - 65
Balance - 330mm / Even
Beam Width - 21mm
String Pattern - 16 x 19
String Tension - 55-65lbs / 25-29kgs

600
Player Type - 3.0-5.0
Length - 27"
Head Size - 102 sq. inch
Strung Weight - 298g / 10.51oz
Unstrung Weight - 283g / 9.98oz
Stiffness / RA - 70
Balance - 330mm / Even
Beam Width - 25 - 25 - 22.5mm
String Pattern - 16 x 19
String Tension - 55-65lbs / 25-29kgs

600 Lite
Player Type - 3.0-4.5
Length - 27.25"
Head Size - 105 sq. inch
Strung Weight - 290g / 10.22oz
Unstrung Weight - 275g / 9.70oz
Stiffness / RA - 68
Balance - 345mm / Head Heavy
Beam Width - 22-26-24mm
String Pattern - 16 x 19
String Tension - 55-65lbs / 25-29kgs

Damn! I don't see a racquet I can play with.
Hey Dunlop: why so limited?


Sorry HOODJAM. I was told in the article that Dunlop made this line of rackets with more Intermediate or Game improvement players in mind. I imagine Dunlop will incorporate this NEW tech into the Heavier players's frames in the near future. Maybe Next January or so...:)

Bartelby
09-10-2010, 06:09 PM
What's that Tecnifibre turncoat doing on the cover!



http://dunlopcatalog.com/Tennis.aspx

rz250r
09-11-2010, 03:53 AM
There are little different Japanese model.

http://www.dunlop.co.jp/newsrelease/2010/2010_s44.htm

100, 200 and 200 tour are existence.

100: 90 SQ, 315MM(BP) 310G 19mm 16 x 19 green
200: 95 SQ, 310MM(BP) 322G 20MM 18 X 20 blue
200tour:95SQ,310MM(BP) 334G 20mm 16 x 18 blue

Mig1NC
09-11-2010, 04:27 AM
Nice. Well, there's our 500 and 500 Tour.

Looks like the weight and balance haven't changed much.

niktub
09-11-2010, 04:38 AM
Looks like the japanese 300 is more HL:neutral:

GameSetMatch
09-11-2010, 06:04 AM
Where's the 16x19 200? :(

Bigtime
09-11-2010, 01:04 PM
I wonder if they will come out with a Maxply McEnroe Biomimetic?:lol:

jchl97
09-11-2010, 09:14 PM
In japan they have released all the Biomimetics, where in the US, the so called "limited version" in Japan, including 100, 200 Tour and 200, and also the 500s are not going to be released until somewhere next year.

Fedace
09-12-2010, 08:07 AM
There are little different Japanese model.

http://www.dunlop.co.jp/newsrelease/2010/2010_s44.htm

100, 200 and 200 tour are existence.

100: 90 SQ, 315MM(BP) 310G 19mm 16 x 19 green
200: 95 SQ, 310MM(BP) 322G 20MM 18 X 20 blue
200tour:95SQ,310MM(BP) 334G 20mm 16 x 18 blue

we could never get these Japanese models here in the states.:(

jchl97
09-12-2010, 08:14 AM
we could never get these Japanese models here in the states.:(

You would, but not for now. I know that Dunlop is just going to release the 200 plus, 300 tour, 300, 600 and 600 lite for this moment. The others will join maybe next year. Japan is always ahead of the States when talking about new rackets, as well as many other new products.

Bartelby
09-12-2010, 09:22 AM
I can never understand why they have the same balance point on the 322 gram 200 as they do on the 305 gram 300 tour.

Fedace
09-12-2010, 09:24 AM
You would, but not for now. I know that Dunlop is just going to release the 200 plus, 300 tour, 300, 600 and 600 lite for this moment. The others will join maybe next year. Japan is always ahead of the States when talking about new rackets, as well as many other new products.

can you tell them to release it tomorrow ?? i can't wait for it. there is such a HYPE. suppose to swing better than the Aero tech by babolat.:)

THESEXPISTOL
09-12-2010, 10:05 AM
http://www.dunlop.co.jp/newsrelease/2010/img/2010_s44_02.jpg

Why the babolat stencil?

Mig1NC
09-12-2010, 12:21 PM
I believe that the same company that distributes Dunlop Racquets in Japan also distributes Babolat. So those are probably Bab strings in the pictures.

jdubbs10
09-14-2010, 10:47 AM
can you tell them to release it tomorrow ?? i can't wait for it. there is such a HYPE. suppose to swing better than the Aero tech by babolat.:)

I agree with you, It is going to be great when these come out. But with all the hype on the rackets, what are your thoughts on the new accessories line (string and Grip)?

Fedace
09-14-2010, 05:37 PM
I agree with you, It is going to be great when these come out. But with all the hype on the rackets, what are your thoughts on the new accessories line (string and Grip)?

dunlop strings always sucked. unless they want to try the biomemetic Strings ? Super tacky grip could be a good seller, one that is NOT affected by moisture and sticks to your hand like superglue.

bigdaddy
09-15-2010, 07:40 AM
Has anyone hit with the 600.

mcshift
09-16-2010, 05:47 PM
I've hit with the 200tour, 300 and 300 tour and i must say they feel really good. although none of them are exactly "players" sticks, and the specs could be better. On got to hit with them for like 10 min today but im hitting with them more tomorrow.
also, awesome paint jobs and the dimples feel just like golf balls, just a little less rough.

mcshift
09-16-2010, 05:51 PM
Are the DEMOS in the local clubs now ????? even the demos not out yet ?????

the club i work at just got 3 from a dunlop rep

Mig1NC
09-16-2010, 06:11 PM
You said 200Tour, did you mean to say 200Plus?

bri129
09-16-2010, 06:40 PM
the guy i buy racquets from says he can get me 3 bio 300 tours in 2-3 weeks

ART ART
09-21-2010, 04:31 PM
the club i work at just got 3 from a dunlop rep

Hi,

any news about this new rackets ?

Fed Kennedy
10-15-2010, 08:51 PM
johnnymac any news on your 300?

johnnymacfan
10-17-2010, 06:42 PM
johnnymac any news on your 300?

Played a couple of sets this weekend and still love this Bio 300...I need to re-string it but have not had time. The Black Widow string the Rep gave me to try has not broken yet, but I've worn the edges off in the sweet spot. Still good spin, but nothing like when the set was fresh. Tension still good after about 11 hours of play. This new one 300 is so much better than the 4D one and the AG one too - I can't even begin to say. That HM 300 mold is so good. Not sure why in the world Dunlop ever went away from it, but I'm glad they went back.

I have an overgrip and dampener in it and the strung weight is just over 11oz. It's about 4pts HL with that setup. I'd say Dunlop hit the nail on the head with this one. The rep in my area said that they begin shipping in a couple of weeks. Can't wait to get my own...I have to turn this one back in to the pro at my club at the end of the week :(.

crism54
10-19-2010, 02:49 AM
where can we find the exact specs for 300 plus?

jchl97
10-19-2010, 03:11 AM
where can we find the exact specs for 300 plus?

It's in Czech
http://www.seekersport.cz/page/69055.rakety-2011-biomimetic/

Mig1NC
10-19-2010, 03:34 AM
johnnymac, can you tell by the feel if the 65 stiffness rating of the BM300 is strung or unstrung?

Dunlop is one of those odd companies that actually gives us strung specs (historically).

johnnymacfan
10-19-2010, 06:37 AM
johnnymac, can you tell by the feel if the 65 stiffness rating of the BM300 is strung or unstrung?

Dunlop is one of those odd companies that actually gives us strung specs (historically).

Yeah...Dunlop has always put strung specs on the frames. It's different, but I actually like it because you cannot play without the strings :).

I'd say that the BIO 300 is a strung 64-65 RA. It feels so much more stable than the AG for 4D one. I'm assuming that it's because of the mold change and the thicker bridge and shoulders. That said, the feel is superb. Swingweight on my set up is 318 and it's lights out.

GameSetMatch
10-19-2010, 08:16 AM
It's in Czech
http://www.seekersport.cz/page/69055.rakety-2011-biomimetic/

That's really interesting. There seems to be an error with the specs on that site, but IF the specs are correct, they've renamed the 200 16x19 as the "300 Plus". But then they go to mention 105sq" as well as 95sq" :confused:

http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pwl69HvnB53_mjO9f5_Er2gTOJP7Melr7mscn7MRnIKwZfzV 71Kssh1oYI32WNt2Sf9UVWf2lVRW-GnnnYKgTxg/Dunlop_06.jpg

Mig1NC
10-19-2010, 10:41 AM
Man, I'm dissapointed in the 500 Plus. I thought it would be something to compete against the Pure Drive Plus, but if it is really 110" head, well, no thanks.

I'm still thinking though that the 300 Plus is designed to compete against the Radical OS.

JediMindTrick
10-19-2010, 12:11 PM
That's really interesting. There seems to be an error with the specs on that site, but IF the specs are correct, they've renamed the 200 16x19 as the "300 Plus". But then they go to mention 105sq" as well as 95sq" :confused:

http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pwl69HvnB53_mjO9f5_Er2gTOJP7Melr7mscn7MRnIKwZfzV 71Kssh1oYI32WNt2Sf9UVWf2lVRW-GnnnYKgTxg/Dunlop_06.jpg

It's probably a typo. It looks like the Bio 200 Lite replaces the great AG 4D 200 16x19. I have a feeling it will be a failure. The paint job is certainly not up to par.

GameSetMatch
10-19-2010, 12:30 PM
It's probably a typo. It looks like the Bio 200 Lite replaces the great AG 4D 200 16x19.

Yep, looks like you're right:

http://www.slicezeit.de/index.php/artikeldetails/category/schl%C3%A4ger/article/biomimetic-200-lite.html

Shame such a hideous paintjob. The 4D 200 16x19 looked really good.

johnnymacfan
10-19-2010, 01:49 PM
Yep, looks like you're right:

http://www.slicezeit.de/index.php/artikeldetails/category/schl%C3%A4ger/article/biomimetic-200-lite.html

Shame such a hideous paintjob. The 4D 200 16x19 looked really good.

The spec is awesome...the cosmetic is a bit different for sure, but it's no different than some of Rafa's nike clothes in 2010...A bit on the bright side.

CHOcobo
10-19-2010, 02:44 PM
yea that lime green should not be in there.

was the string density of the AG200 16x19 the same as the 4D200 16x19?

Fedace
10-19-2010, 02:47 PM
yea that lime green should not be in there.

was the string density of the AG200 16x19 the same as the 4D200 16x19?

What about some Pink and RED mixed in ?

Limpinhitter
10-19-2010, 02:48 PM
yea that lime green should not be in there.

was the string density of the AG200 16x19 the same as the 4D200 16x19?

Uh oh!!! K Factor Kobra Tour anyone?

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Wilson_K_Factor_Kobra_Tour/descpageRCWILSON-KOBRAT.html

CHOcobo
10-19-2010, 09:50 PM
wth? why does wilson copy others?

Limpinhitter
10-20-2010, 06:32 AM
wth? why does wilson copy others?

The Kobra Tour has been out for a few years now. I think the 200 pj looks a little to close to the fugly pj on the Kobra Tour which is, otherwise, a great stick.

CHOcobo
10-20-2010, 07:55 AM
yea i know.....i was just joking. lol. i thought someone was gonna flip out over it. haha.


anyways, can't wait for that Bio100.

JediMindTrick
10-20-2010, 10:56 AM
yea that lime green should not be in there.

was the string density of the AG200 16x19 the same as the 4D200 16x19?

Yes, I think the string pattern is pretty much the same.

1hbhBUX
10-22-2010, 06:45 AM
Are there any additional specs out on the 18x20 200 yet? Someone posted 322g (unstrung, I'm assuming). Anything about balance or swingweight? Same as the 4D version?

johnnymacfan
10-23-2010, 08:11 AM
Just got a text from my rep and Dunlop is apparently shipping the demos of the Bio line now...Racquets will be shipping around Nov. 5, but the demos are on their way! I cannot wait to get my hands on that Bio 300!

GameSetMatch
10-25-2010, 04:23 AM
Just spoke to the Dunlop rep.

The Bio 200 Lite is the replacement for the 4D 200 16x19. Same specs, weight, balance, stringing pattern etc, but updated with the Bio technology.

Oddly, its not going to be sold directly in the UK, but I've managed to place an order for one! TWE may well carry it though (and deliver to the UK), as it will be sold in mainland Europe.

ART ART
10-25-2010, 05:09 AM
Verdasco hitting with the Bio 300 Tour... 16x19 :)

its_me_leon
10-28-2010, 01:01 PM
Here some pics of the 500:

http://i55.tinypic.com/551mqp.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/e63t6q.jpg

prjacobs
10-28-2010, 01:04 PM
Here some pics of the 500:

http://i55.tinypic.com/551mqp.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/e63t6q.jpg

Have you hit with it?

BobFL
10-28-2010, 01:08 PM
Just measured 200 Plus:

Swingweight: 319
Balance: 7pts strung
Flex: 63

its_me_leon
10-28-2010, 01:10 PM
Have you hit with it?

Not yet. It is not mine, just had to restring it.

Fed Kennedy
10-28-2010, 02:06 PM
Have you hit with it yet bobfl?

morten
10-28-2010, 02:44 PM
will the 100 still have the 4D tec?

BobFL
10-28-2010, 04:11 PM
Have you hit with it yet bobfl?

No I haven't, sorry...I dedicated my undivided attention to my Wilson Test racquet :)

Fed Kennedy
10-28-2010, 04:18 PM
haha good man. me too. gotta do the duty.

hescobal
10-30-2010, 05:40 PM
Went in to a local store to possibly pick up a 4d 100 tour. I went to demo and they also had the biomimetic 300 for demo.

So i had a brief hit with the 4d 100, bio, and the 4d 300. I dunno what it was, but I actually hit better with the 4d 300.

Also, I thought the aero skin was suppose to be like a golf ball (concave circles), but it felt and looked more like a basketball

Mig1NC
10-30-2010, 06:19 PM
Went in to a local store to possibly pick up a 4d 100 tour. I went to demo and they also had the biomimetic 300 for demo.

So i had a brief hit with the 4d 100, bio, and the 4d 300. I dunno what it was, but I actually hit better with the 4d 300.

Also, I thought the aero skin was suppose to be like a golf ball (concave circles), but it felt and looked more like a basketball

Did the Bio 300 swing easier than the 4D 300?

hescobal
10-30-2010, 06:21 PM
It felt the same if not the slightest bit heavier

Alan_Hill
11-30-2010, 09:03 AM
I've got bio 100 and 300 with me. matte pj awesome haha

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/7306/photo01610.jpg
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4375/photo0162i.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8473/photo0165i.jpg

Alan_Hill
11-30-2010, 09:04 AM
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/7292/photo0166f.jpg
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/684/photo0168s.jpg

BobFL
11-30-2010, 10:32 AM
I just LOVE matte pjs! These new biomimetics look soooooo good especially 300, 100, and 600...