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max
07-30-2010, 12:41 PM
Interesting science at work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD7I024Yms8&feature=related

ollinger
07-30-2010, 01:17 PM
This issue came up in a thread a year or two ago. The concentrations of estrogen in drinking water are so minute as to have no clearly demonstrated effects on humans, though some of the creatures that LIVE in the water and constantly filter it through their systems have shown some effects. It's another argument in favor of what comes out of your tap, as some plastic water bottles have been found to have chemicals with estrogen-like effects, and this can leech into the water.

max
07-30-2010, 04:46 PM
Umm, did you see the video?

OKUSA
07-30-2010, 05:06 PM
Eventually you won't need birth control as every male will be sterile, look on the bright side!

ollinger
07-30-2010, 06:00 PM
Yes, I did see the video and it was really dreadful. It presented no data at all, and teased us with some speculations that have never been shown to be related to consumption of estrogen (or anything else, for that matter). These include earlier onset of puberty in some parts of the world (no data suggesting this is related to estrogen consumption, thought by some to be a selective breeding genetic phenomenon, no evidence for that matter that it's even a bad thing), increased rates of certain cancers (lots of potential reasons for this, no data presented correlating with estrogen consumption), and declining sperm counts (well known to occur in crowded conditions, and the world is becoming more crowded, regardless of what is consumed. Also not a bad thing in an overcrowded world). The video contains musings and speculations, no evidence of anything whatsoever. Let's also remember that all predators, humans included, inevitably consume estrogens, androgens, and whatever when they consume their prey. So it is quite normal to consume some quantities of these things.

fed_the_savior
07-30-2010, 06:35 PM
Yes, I did see the video and it was really dreadful. It presented no data at all, and teased us with some speculations that have never been shown to be related to consumption of estrogen (or anything else, for that matter). These include earlier onset of puberty in some parts of the world (no data suggesting this is related to estrogen consumption, thought by some to be a selective breeding genetic phenomenon, no evidence for that matter that it's even a bad thing), increased rates of certain cancers (lots of potential reasons for this, no data presented correlating with estrogen consumption), and declining sperm counts (well known to occur in crowded conditions, and the world is becoming more crowded, regardless of what is consumed. Also not a bad thing in an overcrowded world). The video contains musings and speculations, no evidence of anything whatsoever. Let's also remember that all predators, humans included, inevitably consume estrogens, androgens, and whatever when they consume their prey. So it is quite normal to consume some quantities of these things.
yeah but itll give you man titties!!! :shock:

max
07-31-2010, 05:02 PM
I think the notion here is that there are accumulated poisons in our water that can do some very bad things.

ollinger
08-01-2010, 04:13 AM
Doesn't really work that way with hormones like estrogen. Our hypothalamus and pituitary makes regulating factors so that if we accumulate too much estrogen, our bodies stop making their own. Very nice feedback loop. Relax.