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Irvin
08-11-2010, 02:39 AM
I seen a picture on the board of a knot that looked very strange to me and when I looked at it real close the more I thought it was a double half hitch. So I started looking up how to tie a double half hitch. Most people tie it completely wrong. Most people the two knots the same way OUT - Over, Under, and Through. Actually the double half hitch has two opposing knots. If you don't tie it right the movement of the string will untie the outside knot. Ever wonder why your knot came untied?

So I made another video and included the Parnell knot, Wilson knot (Pro knot,) and a starting knot.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Mr10sStringer#p/a/u/1/G_IzoGUSbmg

Irvin

Lakers4Life
08-11-2010, 05:02 AM
I seen a picture on the board of a knot that looked very strange to me and when I looked at it real close the more I thought it was a double half hitch. So I started looking up how to tie a double half hitch. Most people tie it completely wrong. Most people the two knots the same way OUT - Over, Under, and Through. Actually the double half hitch has two opposing knots. If you don't tie it right the movement of the string will untie the outside knot. Ever wonder why your knot came untied?

So I made another video and included the Parnell knot, Wilson knot (Pro knot,) and a starting knot.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Mr10sStringer#p/a/u/1/G_IzoGUSbmg

Irvin

A Double Half Hitch with to opposite (mirrored) knots is a Full Hitch.

tnnsman7
08-11-2010, 06:54 AM
I know it as a reverse half hitch
http://www.realknots.com/knots/hitches.htm

Irvin
08-11-2010, 08:46 AM
As far as I am concerned you can call it anything you want. The USRSA calls figure 3 a Double Half Hitch. They go on to say you can tie the double half hitch by remembering the word OUT. Thread the string Over, Under, and Through and you have completed a half hitch. Then they stop short of telling how to complete the knot, but their picture says it all.

http://i422.photobucket.com/albums/pp304/Irvin44_2008/Doublehalfhitch.png

Follow the sting on the picture above. It goes over, under, and through and then under, over, and through. No wonder so many double half hitch knots look loose. If you tie it backwards it will naturally untie itself.

Irvin

Irvin
08-11-2010, 09:16 AM
Here is another video on how to tie that double half hitch

http://www.ehow.com/video_4956314_tying-round-turn-double-half.html

Whatever you call the knot you want the two knots to oppose each other they you will have that loose looking knot when you complete the job. If you look at this veido close it almost looks like the person hesitates for a second when he starts to tie the second knot. Then he thinks about it and completes the knot.

Irvin

destroyer
08-12-2010, 05:13 PM
Will try the Wilson knot next time.
Thanks Irvin

Lakers4Life
08-12-2010, 06:34 PM
The important thing about tying tie-off knots on rackets is that they don't slip or unravel. That being said, it really does not matter what knot to tie as long as it holds.

Irvin
08-13-2010, 03:22 AM
I think there are (at least) three equally important features of a tie off knot. First it must be simple and easy to tie, it must hold well and easily tightened, and it must look neat and not protrude out so it can catch on clothing or scratch anyone. I don't use the double half hitch for a couple of reasons but I do not think it is a bad knot if it is tied properly.

I made another short video about why I think it is important for the knots to oppose each other. Whether the knot is a double half hitch is reverse half hitch, a full hitch, a tie-off, or whatever does not matter we all know what knots we are talking about. Yes I meant knots because there is one right one and three wrong ones. The problem is there are four ways to tie it (O=Over, U=Under, and T=Through) OUT-UOT, OUT-OUT, UOT-UOT, and UOT-OUT. It is hard to mess up a Parnell knot or a Wilson Pro knot (I think it is really hard to mess up the Wilson Pro knot.)

Here is the video http://www.youtube.com/user/Mr10sStringer#p/a/u/0/RCQqky_9ihg

Irvin

Irvin
08-13-2010, 03:45 AM
Now that I think about it I think I could have it backwards. To tighten the knot properly at the end the tail should come up from the bottom of the racket so maybe it should be UOT-OUT. But then again you would have to tighten the first hitch from the bottom.

Anyway you look at it I have problems with this knot. Going out for the weekend I will think on this one next week. Looks like I am all tied up for the weekend. LOL

Irvin

drakulie
08-13-2010, 05:01 AM
As always great video. Thanks for sharing.

The strings and their "proper names" could get confusing and many times become interchangeable depending on who you speak to. Such is the case with what Wilson states as the "Wilson Knot", which is essentially been around forever, and from memory, it is basically called a one and a half hitch. It is also referrred to as a Pro Knot.

Irvin
08-15-2010, 11:51 AM
As always great video. Thanks for sharing.

The strings and their "proper names" could get confusing and many times become interchangeable depending on who you speak to. Such is the case with what Wilson states as the "Wilson Knot", which is essentially been around forever, and from memory, it is basically called a one and a half hitch. It is also referrred to as a Pro Knot.

Thanks 'drakulie' yes I copied that knot off a racket I had when I first started stringing a long time ago.

Irvin