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Federer_Express
06-03-2005, 08:30 PM
Do you guys think the extreme 1hbh grip (like Gaudio) is better than the eastern grip (like Federer) for baseline hardcourters? Thanks

Kana Himezaki
06-03-2005, 10:19 PM
It doesn't matter too much it should depend on your style of play.

Players like Gaudio develop extreme grips to produce heavy topspin, because they're building themselves for clay. The extra time to adjust helps a lot when setting up for these balls.

Do you want to have the ability to produce more topspin? Do you not mind having more problems with low balls? The extreme grip might help. However, keep in mind the setup, higher contact zone, and a little more difficulty in hitting back hard and fast balls.

The eastern backhand grip is versatile, and is fine for hitting low balls, drives, whatever. Slices are also easier, although you can (and most people do) switch into a continental grip.

Keep in mind the extreme grip definitely has it's limits. Topspin isn't everything, the main purpose is to keep the ball in the court. The eastern backhand is more versatile. Also notice that if you want more topspin (which I'm assuming if you're thinking about a more extreme grip) you can still get a lot with an eastern backhand. Most of it is simply the setup and motion through the ball.

Both can be used effectively on hardcourts, although I'm leaning towards the normal Eastern backhand.

TwistServe
06-03-2005, 11:03 PM
Both grips are fine for baseliners on all surfaces. The key to consistency is net clearance and in order to achieve that you need topspin. Both grips will allow you to achieve a good amount of topspin.

I think many players don't understand how high their balls should clear the net. You watch any ATP match live and you can clearly see the men baseliners clear the net by 3-5 feet. It's not so obvious watching on TV..

When you watch the WTA you see the opposite.. their strokes barely clear the net which explains a lot of the inconsistency and shorter rallys.

erik-the-red
06-04-2005, 09:21 AM
The extreme eastern or semi-western single-handed backhand is actually quite popular with clay-court specialists.

The slow red clay often allows these players ample time to set up their shots.

You have much less time to set up your shot with this grip on a hard court or grass court.

In these situations a standard eastern grip is better.

Kana Himezaki
06-04-2005, 09:45 AM
As TwistServe said, your balls should be clearing the net by 3-5 feet with topspin, about 2 feet normally.

However, with an eastern backhand grip you can still generate natural topspin even when driving, which keeps the ball in the court. For me, this is usually the ideal amount of topspin. With an extreme grip, you can certainly generate more -but at a certain point, to me, it becomes unnecessary. I'd rather use my backhands to approach or drive the ball clean rather than sticking the topspin on it.