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dgdawg
10-16-2010, 06:14 AM
I know this question has been asked before but:
What is the "go to" syn gut???? Value, durability, tension maintenance, feel, etc......you know the drill.
I want to try and stream line my inventory and can't decide which syn to keep around.
I currently use Pro Supex Spiral Flex, Eagnas Perfect Spin, Pro Supex FT Ruff for the nylon players and PSGD 17g for a thinner syn.
I'm looking to see if experienced stringers feel there are better options. AND, a good 15g for the cheap skate, chronic string breakers.
Forten? Gosen?
I want to offer choices, but unless a player knows what they want, they'll tell you: "do what you think"
I already carry about $1500 worth a string, and need to maximize my low cost options.
So, I thought I'd lay it out there.

jim e
10-16-2010, 10:33 AM
Hi dgdawg: I probably keep too many string choices in my inventory. I even typically keep over 30 sets of VS gut on hand, which is a sizable amount just for 1 string.A # of reels of string, and a vast # of sets of strings. I can't even begin to think of the $ I have in string inventory . Every time I put in an order I usually get more than needed.

I did get 1 reel of 15g forten nylon, and in the last 3 years I used 1 set from it was all. Most do not go for the cheap stuff.Usually if I end up with more of a decent string that does not move, I will string it up for a kid at a lower fee, just to move that string, and most are happy with that, especially parents.Then you get their buisness.

I know the typical player that tells me to string it with whatever I feel is best, as they have no clue on strings, and when I attempt to explain, they don't even want to listen, so I go to a typical syn. gut, which makes them happy, and usually a brand name one, as name recognician goes along with those people.I use to use Babolat Super fine play, but once they stopped production of that one, I then went to Tecnifibers syn. gut, and after a reel of that I now just stick with PSGD as the go to string for those players. I figured that it still is the #1 string sold in speciality shops for a reason and has been for a long time, and everyone has heard of the typical Prince string, and all seem to be happy with it, so for now that is my go to string for the "put in what you feel is best" response that I get when the player hits with a syn. gut. (your typical mid age or older club player usually).
For the repeat client, its an easy choice, as I use the same string and tension, but the put in what ever you feel guy comes in for the 1st time and has no idea of string or tension, I put in the PSGD at mid tension, tell them that since this is the 1st stringing for them, if they do not like the tension, I will restring it for free, as a one time offer, so they get the tension they would like. So far not one person has taken me up on that, and it makes them happy as well.

Rabbit
10-16-2010, 10:44 AM
I agree with Jim, PSG is still the most asked for string. I do try to steer folks away from the Durafibre just because I never liked the feel.

coachrick
10-16-2010, 01:27 PM
Over the years, I've established connections that provided me with un-branded syn of various types(Gosen was the main supplier back in the '90s---as you know, they made/make strings that are branded for a variety of marques). For that customer that wanted 'whatever you suggest', that was the type of string I would use. The danger in making PSG-D your main synthetic is that SOMEbody will always use that as their loss leader string--too recognizable. You can carry it for those who ask for it by name. For others, a little 'mystery' can go a long way--as long as you can replicate the string job next time they come in.

I have a couple hundred sets of string on hand. Unless I did a BUNCH of VS, I can't imagine ever needing $1500 worth of string inventory. I don't have 'just in time' inventory channels available to me out here in Texas like I did in Atlanta; so, I could see my inventory 'bulking up' a bit if I tried to carry a bunch of new strings.

dawg, you might try the 'string trade' forum if you decide to pare down your selection. Somebody might want strings that you aren't moving and vice-versa.(Although it might be more trouble and expense to swap bits and pieces)

mikeler
10-16-2010, 01:27 PM
I like Gamma 16g, the non Wearguard version. I tried it in 15g one time and hated it.

Ash_Smith
10-16-2010, 01:36 PM
I know I keep banging on about it but RAB Texflex Premium is my go to syn.gut!!!

Ash

dgdawg
10-16-2010, 02:32 PM
Hi dgdawg: I probably keep too many string choices in my inventory. I even typically keep over 30 sets of VS gut on hand, which is a sizable amount just for 1 string.A # of reels of string, and a vast # of sets of strings. I can't even begin to think of the $ I have in string inventory . Every time I put in an order I usually get more than needed.

I did get 1 reel of 15g forten nylon, and in the last 3 years I used 1 set from it was all. Most do not go for the cheap stuff.Usually if I end up with more of a decent string that does not move, I will string it up for a kid at a lower fee, just to move that string, and most are happy with that, especially parents.Then you get their buisness.

I know the typical player that tells me to string it with whatever I feel is best, as they have no clue on strings, and when I attempt to explain, they don't even want to listen, so I go to a typical syn. gut, which makes them happy, and usually a brand name one, as name recognition goes along with those people.I use to use Babolat Super fine play, but once they stopped production of that one, I then went to Tecnifibers syn. gut, and after a reel of that I now just stick with PSGD as the go to string for those players. I figured that it still is the #1 string sold in speciality shops for a reason and has been for a long time, and everyone has heard of the typical Prince string, and all seem to be happy with it, so for now that is my go to string for the "put in what you feel is best" response that I get when the player hits with a syn. gut. (your typical mid age or older club player usually).
For the repeat client, its an easy choice, as I use the same string and tension, but the put in what ever you feel guy comes in for the 1st time and has no idea of string or tension, I put in the PSGD at mid tension, tell them that since this is the 1st stringing for them, if they do not like the tension, I will restring it for free, as a one time offer, so they get the tension they would like. So far not one person has taken me up on that, and it makes them happy as well.

Sounds like we have the same ideas. Anyone that goes w/my suggestion and doesn't like it, I restring gratis. (1 time)
I get the PSGD connection but, I'm not real fond of it, myself.
My recommendations/suggestions always come from my thoughts when I play test, and PSGD isn't my fav. (I play everything I sell)
After playing this "stringing" game for a while, I've discovered a lot of lesser known products preform better (IMPO) than recognizable brands, at a more reasonable price.
Same performance, smaller price point = better value
Pro Supex Spiral Flex is my preference for a PSGD alternative.
I use the Eagnas Perfect Spin for a Prince Top Spin/Head Rip Control alternative.
Pro Supex FT Ruff for the Nylon freaks. I also keep a variety of High-Mid-and low end multi's around, as well as Bab Natties.
Aside from Bab Pro Hurr/Hurr Tour, assorted Lux and a couple others, SPPP 1.28 and 1.18 are my "go to" polies. I get all the Pro Supex & SPPP from the same place.
I purchase mostly reels. Everything I buy is from 2 suppliers, with the exception of Perfect Spin. This keeps shipping costs down.
I guess the Eagnas Perfect Spin is what I need an alturnative for. Something I can get for TW from my "other guy"
I'm thinking, after reading the replies thus far, I'm probably pretty dialed in.
With my customer base, I've found that players want choices but go into over load if you try to educate too much.
This is why I have a lot of choices, but just a few in each "category".

Ash...gonna test drive the RAB Texflex Premium

coackrick......after looking at my inventory, I guess I'm closer to about $1100/$1200 point. I keep this much around to offer choices.
I want me clients to feel they can come to me and get the same "options" as the pro shop 20miles away.

beernutz
10-17-2010, 03:20 PM
No love for Prince Syn Gut with Duraflex? I believe it is the world's best selling syn gut.

coachrick
10-17-2010, 03:30 PM
coackrick......after looking at my inventory, I guess I'm closer to about $1100/$1200 point. I keep this much around to offer choices.
I want me clients to feel they can come to me and get the same "options" as the pro shop 20miles away.

Be glad it's not the mid-'90s, when you had to offer teal, purple, pink, neon yellow, etc in many strings, as well as grips to match! :)


And from:
beernutz:... No love for Prince Syn Gut with Duraflex? I believe it is the world's best selling syn gut.

Two words for PSG-D...Bor ing! BTW, the Ford Escort was the largest selling car in the world for many years! Just sayin'. ;)

struggle
10-17-2010, 04:03 PM
PSGD seems an obvious choice, but I constantly play Gosen OGSM (16 and 17) and i stuff it into my friends rackets with no complaints, nothing but love.

and it's cheap.

and by the reel, i think it has no labeling on the string......
generic.

dgdawg
10-17-2010, 04:18 PM
No love for Prince Syn Gut with Duraflex? I believe it is the world's best selling syn gut.

I don't believe I mentioned anything about love, or the lack of it.
I just said it's not my fav.
Try Pro Supex Spiral Flex. I think you'll find it more lively, just as, or more durable, distorts less and holds tension better.
It IS, the most marketed syn gut.