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tennis_tater
10-22-2010, 04:45 PM
With the junior players now being able to play league before college, what happens when a top junior player enters league play and self-rates as a 4.5, but then goes and plays college for a year or two, doesn't really make it, and then starts playing league again. Can the player use his old 4.5 rating that was generated before he played college tennis, or should he now have to go through and re-rate and obtain a new rating which accurately reflects his recent college level experience (which may now bump him over 5.0)?

JLyon
10-23-2010, 07:07 PM
once the player signs with or plays at a D2 or above school, they can have a grievance filed against them and be re-rated. Happened to several players in TX Section this year.

christo
10-24-2010, 02:35 PM
I thought they were automatically rated 5.0 unless they lie and don't cop to it.

JoelDali
10-24-2010, 04:53 PM
I thought they were automatically rated 5.0 unless they lie and don't cop to it.

Theres nothing automatic about self rates when you check off the HS experience only option.

:D

andfor
10-24-2010, 06:33 PM
once the player signs with or plays at a D2 or above school, they can have a grievance filed against them and be re-rated. Happened to several players in TX Section this year.

Good. Used to be if a 18/19 year old rated and played USTA matches before they signed and played matches they were safe.

How you and your family doing Jason? Ya'll in Texas now?

JLyon
10-25-2010, 08:16 AM
Good. Used to be if a 18/19 year old rated and played USTA matches before they signed and played matches they were safe.

How you and your family doing Jason? Ya'll in Texas now?

Staying in AR, just follow TX quite abit. They had a few Jrs get DQ'ed after signing up and then committing to Colleges. Also several former Players got popped as well, ranging from D1 player to D3 All-Americans.
Family is well, just growing, got three kids now and little time to play anymore.

tennis_tater
10-25-2010, 09:31 AM
They had a few Jrs get DQ'ed after signing up and then committing to Colleges.

Is there anything in the rules that requires players like this to re-rate once their status/playing level changes? For example, while it may have been permissible for the junior player to rate himself as a 4.5 under the guidelines at the time of his self-rating, after gaining the experience (however so limited) at the college level, that player is then required to re-rate so his rating accounts for this additional tennis history? Or does the burden rest on this college players opponents to do their research and then file a grievance in order to get the player DQ'd? Seems to me that the burden should be on the player to re-rate and not on the opponents to have to go digging this information up.

JLyon
10-25-2010, 09:34 AM
Is there anything in the rules that requires players like this to re-rate once their status/playing level changes? For example, while it may have been permissible for the junior player to rate himself as a 4.5 under the guidelines at the time of his self-rating, after gaining the experience (however so limited) at the college level, that player is then required to re-rate so his rating accounts for this additional tennis history? Or does the burden rest on this college players opponents to do their research and then file a grievance in order to get the player DQ'd? Seems to me that the burden should be on the player to re-rate and not on the opponents to have to go digging this information up.

Should be on the player, but in the end it requires the opposing Captains to follow the players. The worst part are the kids who are only HS Juniors when they start playing since they have a late Birthday, unless they become Top 20 in the Section there will be little that can be done.
Also the issue of Walk-ons at D1 Schools being placed on the same level as Scholarship players needs a major look as well, for ratings purposes.