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FedererUberAlles
06-05-2005, 01:55 PM
I can't stand playing against these kids. I am starting to get shoulder problems because I have to hit my backhand and forehand so high. I know taking it early helps, but when it is a moon ball and bounces over my head when I try to take it on the rise (I'm not very successful at this in the first place). And of course, trying to let it come down brings my back to the fence. Should I just slice it?

alan-n
06-05-2005, 02:33 PM
Yep and good slice keeps them off balance.

erik-the-red
06-05-2005, 02:43 PM
I have a fairly regular hitting partner who is in his fifties.

He plays a rather unorthodox yet "traditional" style. He mostly slices, chips, and drives with a continental grip. Consequently, most of his shots stay low, skid, and occassionally can be "heavy."

I play with a semi-western / continental two-handed backhand and a semi-western forehand. Let me tell you. It is hard as crap to try to create topspin on his shots. They are soooo low.

So, what do you need to do to handle these youngins?

Slice more. Keep your shots low.

Ryoma Kun
06-05-2005, 05:28 PM
why not just stand inside the court and take the ball out of the air?

or use a short slice like others have said and bring him to net...

if you can't beat a moon baller than you are not neccessarily worse/better than him, being a good player is the ability to play against opponents with different styles. just practice against people who do this and learn to beat them.

1 tactic i find that works is just dinking the ball back and let them think they can hit the winner, they will either choke n hit it out, or it will give u a decent shot to hit off of.

benasp
06-05-2005, 05:50 PM
if they come so high, why not smash it ? when something is too high i take my badminton bad habit back and i duck a little bit and I smash. assuming you have good smash, this should be a good option

FedererUberAlles
06-05-2005, 06:22 PM
why not just stand inside the court and take the ball out of the air?

or use a short slice like others have said and bring him to net...

if you can't beat a moon baller than you are not neccessarily worse/better than him, being a good player is the ability to play against opponents with different styles. just practice against people who do this and learn to beat them.

1 tactic i find that works is just dinking the ball back and let them think they can hit the winner, they will either choke n hit it out, or it will give u a decent shot to hit off of.

Christ, I never said I was better than them; I just want my shoulder to be intact when I am thirty. And about the dinking, I don't know what leagues you are in, but you have to be playing a 2.0 for someone to screw up like that.

Jack Romeo
06-05-2005, 07:20 PM
there are 2 ways of dealing with high-looping topspin shots. one is to take the ball early and drive it hard and relatively flat. second is to slice it low. both methods can really disrupt the rhythm of your opponent. the drawback is that both tactics are riskier since the trajectory of your shots will naturally be travelling lower to the net, hence a smaller margin for error. federer, grosjean and puerta tried both tactics in their matches with nadal and they made a lot of errors.

on the other hand, i doubt if the guy you're playing with is as proficient with his topspin as nadal or any other atp claycourt specialist. inevitably, he will hit some short and with less kick. you should be quick to recognize these balls and attack him or dropshot him.

Andy Hewitt
06-05-2005, 07:44 PM
Yep and good slice keeps them off balance.
Boy do I ever love punishing a nice low slice with SERIOUS topspin. My best shot, well any low ball will do.

Tennis Ball Hitter
06-06-2005, 06:23 AM
I find these type of players like to plant themselves near or behind the baseline. So depending on how good your opponent is you can probably take the ball early and not have to hit the cover off of it, just get it back into play.

The other thing you don't want is to get into a rally with these players because after a couple of shots they get into a rhythm and start hitting it deeper. So you have to mix it up before he starts hitting deep, make sure he has to move to hit each shot. If you slice make sure he has to move forward to hit it.

FedererUberAlles
06-06-2005, 02:23 PM
I'm trying messing around with dropshots; most of these guys just sit on the baseline. I've just got to get a consistent drop shot off of these loopy, hard shots.

safin_protege
06-06-2005, 04:36 PM
I use this tactic and recommend it to you; close off points at net. Think of how high the ball would be in the middle of the service box. The ball bounces high if you sit on the baseline, but you could also take advantage of that high ball and hit strong deep volleys, angled volleys, or drop shots, all from net.

FedererUberAlles
06-06-2005, 05:00 PM
Yeah, I get passed a lot there, though. I serve and volley and that tends to cut down on this, but when they are serving I have the problem. When I am just rallying for fun/practice I have this problem too. : /