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Matt H.
11-18-2010, 09:27 AM
One of the singles guys on our clubs other 4.0 team got an 0 and 1 beat down from a self-rated 3.5. First USTA match ever for this guy too.

Apparently the new work-around from getting your ringer DQd is to have the ringer self-rate a position lower. On the 3rd strike he'll just get bumped up to the next rank.

dlk
11-18-2010, 09:32 AM
Hey, his team will forfeit his matches too, right. Like if they won 4-1, it would change to 3-2?

Cindysphinx
11-18-2010, 09:33 AM
One of the singles guys on our clubs other 4.0 team got an 0 and 1 beat down from a self-rated 3.5. First USTA match ever for this guy too.

Apparently the new work-around from getting your ringer DQd is to have the ringer self-rate a position lower. On the 3rd strike he'll just get bumped up to the next rank.

Huh? If the guy self-rates at 3.5 but only plays 4.0, what's the problem?

Now, if he really should be a 4.5, that's a problem, but the three strikes DQ should take care of that.

Nellie
11-18-2010, 09:52 AM
No - you get a dynamic rating based on actual play. Self-rating does not matter. In the above example, the self-rated likely gets a dynamic rating along the lines of the of the beaten player rating + .2. IF the beaten player is at the top of the 4.0 scale, the self-rated player could have a dynamic rating in the 4.5 range, earning a strike for 4.0 play.

JoelDali
11-18-2010, 10:46 AM
The greatest tactic is recruiting.

After that, calculated seduction of the recruited ringer's virgin USTA tennis mind with beautiful dreams of Sectionals and Nationals glory, or just some milk chocalate.

http://10000besides.com/mindfreak/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/sensual-seduction.jpg

Matt H.
11-18-2010, 11:08 AM
i was under the assumption that the 3rd strike would bump his rating up to 4.0 first?

so he'd have 6 strikes before being DQ'd from 4.0.

who knows though. the usta is too damn complicated.

J_R_B
11-18-2010, 11:51 AM
http://tennislink.usta.com/Leagues/reports/individualAnchor.aspx?

This guy got DQ'd from both 3.5 and 4.0 within 6 matches. This strategy is flawed if you play up from the start. you would have to self-rate at 3.5, then play at 3.5 until you get DQ'd. Then quit for the year and get a 4.0C rating at the end of the year and play 4.0 the following season. If people are so into cheating that they go to this length to play at Nationals, more power to them. The system can't be perfect, and I suspect that there aren't many people willing to go to these lengths to cheat when there isn't even any money involved.

dizzlmcwizzl
11-18-2010, 04:37 PM
Not on my team but in a district around the corner there was a guy who was DQ'd straight from 3.5 to 4.5.

He self rated as a 3.5. Thumped two decent players he played at 4.0 and one low level 4.5.