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dollivier
11-29-2010, 07:10 PM
I'm having trouble understanding this Benchmark rating. My friend is a 3.0 who did really well at the 3.0 level and should - and did - get moved up to 3.5. She played eight 3.5 matches in two fall leagues and went 3-5 in those matches - All doubles matches except 1 singles match which she lost. She has a 3.5 Benchmark rating. How do you get a Benchmark rating without even going to districts at that particular level? How can she be a Benchmark rating with that record?

mctennis
11-29-2010, 07:23 PM
Is this USTA play? If it is the USTA is a really messed up organization. Up and down ratings/rankings each and every year. I wouldn't play USTA if they paid me after seeing all the mess they've created. That's why Atlanta started ALTA years ago. Those folks got tired of the USTA crap.

atatu
11-30-2010, 07:18 AM
You can get a benchmark for participating in a "playoff", it doesn't have to just be sectionals or districts. My question is, can a benchmark rating be appealed ?

dollivier
11-30-2010, 08:00 AM
Ok. So "Benchmark" is the wrong term. As I understand it a Benchmark Rating then means that you participated in Districts or higher the prior year. Has nothing to do with being a "Benchmark" for other players at the level - correct? If that's the case they should change the term or just use a C rating.

gameboy
11-30-2010, 08:44 AM
I really don't think that is what "Benchmark" means. I think it really just means that you are 3.0 or 3.5 or 4.0 and not 2.8 or 3.2 or 3.9. You are at the top of the range for that level.

dollivier
11-30-2010, 08:52 AM
I really don't think that is what "Benchmark" means. I think it really just means that you are 3.0 or 3.5 or 4.0 and not 2.8 or 3.2 or 3.9. You are at the top of the range for that level.

So my friend that just got bumped to 3.5 from a 3.0 and now has a Benchmark rating is at the top of the 3.5 range? No chance. She's going to get worked at 3.5 this year and will be lucky to win 50% of her matches.

JoelDali
11-30-2010, 09:23 AM
You are at the top of the range for that level.

This is incorrect.

All recently bumped friends of mine are nowhere near being the top of their new rating (B).

All of the logic I've heard thus far is nowhere near facts on the ground.

Dude I know won ALL 3 Districts in ONE year, went to Sectionals and had a great record - didn't get bumped which is highly dubious.

I think local coordinators keep high value captains to that level for monetary and captainerary reasons.

I see it consistently in Humboldt County, in 2008 major captain dude had 22 guys on his roster and they bumped everyone but him and the guys that had weak serves and loved mixed dubs. Keeping those transient mixed guys out of the GOATworthy men's leagues.

kylebarendrick
11-30-2010, 09:24 AM
I really don't think that is what "Benchmark" means. I think it really just means that you are 3.0 or 3.5 or 4.0 and not 2.8 or 3.2 or 3.9. You are at the top of the range for that level.

This is incorrect. A "B" rating means that you played in a post-season match (Districts or higher for some sections, local playoffs or higher for others). I believe that the benchmark does have significance in that it allows the computer to compare people from different local leagues, districts, and sections. It does not mean you are at the top of a level. As an example, someone that had a great season at 3.0, played matches at sectionals, and got bumped to 3.5 would get a "3.5B" rating even though they have never played a 3.5 match.

Darkhors
11-30-2010, 10:33 AM
A 'B' rating also includes the fact that you can NOT get DQ'd the following year. So you are safe to play at that level for the entire year.

Vik
11-30-2010, 12:30 PM
A 'B' rating also includes the fact that you can NOT get DQ'd the following year. So you are safe to play at that level for the entire year.

That has nothing to do with the B rating. If you have a C rating you can't be DQ'd either.