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kishnabe
12-09-2010, 07:12 PM
Wilson KGut is possibly the best non Natural Gut GUt string out there? Now it is not avalible at TW...did they stop realeasing it?

BreakPoint
12-09-2010, 07:30 PM
Thank God they discontinued it! Worst string of any type I've ever used. And considering its outrageously high unjustified price, I would rank its price vs. performance at the bottom of all the strings on the market. I guess Wilson finally wised up and stopped making that piece of junk. :???:

In fact, I would say Gosen OG Sheep Micro at 1/20th of the price blows away K-Gut on performance, comfort, and feel.

Just my personal opinion, of course. :)

Ambivalent
12-09-2010, 07:58 PM
Thank God they discontinued it! Worst string of any type I've ever used. And considering its outrageously high unjustified price, I would rank its price vs. performance at the bottom of all the strings on the market. I guess Wilson finally wised up and stopped making that piece of junk. :???:

In fact, I would say Gosen OG Sheep Micro at 1/20th of the price blows away K-Gut on performance, comfort, and feel.

Just my personal opinion, of course. :)

Exaggeration on two levels. I really like kgut and haven't heard bad things about it from anyone. Sure it's a little pricey, but nowhere near 20x the price of og sheep micro.

I think kgut plays better than wilson's other multis, namely hollow core and nxt, although i actually like hollow core as well.

BreakPoint
12-10-2010, 12:54 AM
Exaggeration on two levels. I really like kgut and haven't heard bad things about it from anyone. Sure it's a little pricey, but nowhere near 20x the price of og sheep micro.

I think kgut plays better than wilson's other multis, namely hollow core and nxt, although i actually like hollow core as well.
No exaggeration. K-Gut costs $21.50 a set. You should be able to find OG Micro for a bit over $1 a set (especially in reels). It's out there.

And if you haven't heard bad things about K-Gut (and K-Gut Pro), you haven't been reading this board very much.

BTW, I find Hollow Core to be significantly softer and more comfortable than K-Gut, and that they play very differently. I find it surprising that anyone can like one but not dislike the other.

sansaephanh
12-10-2010, 01:20 AM
Ive seen many people smash on strings cause of bad string jobs, maybe that was the case? I had a cross pop near the frame due to a bad retailer job. They were big bangers too T~T

tlm
12-10-2010, 03:21 AM
Thank God they discontinued it! Worst string of any type I've ever used. And considering its outrageously high unjustified price, I would rank its price vs. performance at the bottom of all the strings on the market. I guess Wilson finally wised up and stopped making that piece of junk. :???:

In fact, I would say Gosen OG Sheep Micro at 1/20th of the price blows away K-Gut on performance, comfort, and feel.

Just my personal opinion, of course. :)

As usual you are way off, i have been buying kgut
for 16.95 for quite a while. Originally it was priced
at $22, but then reduced to 16.95.

As far as gosen og sheep micro goes it is not even
close.It is a so so cheap string with no bite or power.

Cooper_Tecnifibre4
12-10-2010, 03:50 AM
[K]Gut...More like [K]But :lol:
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kishnabe
12-10-2010, 04:07 AM
My go to string with a hybrid of RPM Blast or PHT! Do you guys know any other string that plays at least as good as Kgut in the softness and feel department but with better durability?

Sucks WIlson took it out....they should have reduced the price even more and kept it on!

nvottennis
12-10-2010, 07:36 AM
As usual you are way off, i have been buying kgut
for 16.95 for quite a while. Originally it was priced
at $22, but then reduced to 16.95.

As far as gosen og sheep micro goes it is not even
close.It is a so so cheap string with no bite or power.

Agreed, i found other multis like livewire and x-1 were substantially better despite the close pricing

parasailing
12-10-2010, 09:21 AM
Kgut isn't a bad string and people comparing it to Gosen Micro for $1 is a bit of a stretch. I agree that for $17 plus, it would not be on my list of string to get, X1, NRG2, or Kirschbaum are better strings.

jura
12-10-2010, 09:33 AM
You guys know that K-Gut and NXT are Tecnifibre strings?! They are produced by TF. And as far as I know the difference between K-Gut and NXT is only a bit color and the diameter.
BTW: Some TF people told me that NXT is nearly the same string as TR-3.

sureshs
12-10-2010, 09:34 AM
I tried it and did not like it at all

Fedace
12-10-2010, 09:55 AM
K-gut was a good string. definitely better than Stamina for sure. but it was Over-priced for some unknown reason. X-1 of course is better bang for the buck.
i suppose Cheap natural gut is better than K-gut

Ambivalent
12-10-2010, 10:20 AM
No exaggeration. K-Gut costs $21.50 a set. You should be able to find OG Micro for a bit over $1 a set (especially in reels). It's out there.

And if you haven't heard bad things about K-Gut (and K-Gut Pro), you haven't been reading this board very much.

BTW, I find Hollow Core to be significantly softer and more comfortable than K-Gut, and that they play very differently. I find it surprising that anyone can like one but not dislike the other.

Kgut is more comfortable and FAR more durable than Hollow Core. Also, OGSM is 3.75 a set, whereas kgut is 17. That's not even close to 20x the price. Even if you get ogsm in reels it still comes out to more than 2$ a set, and if you're going to do that then you could also get reels of kgut for a proportional discount.


You guys know that K-Gut and NXT are Tecnifibre strings?! They are produced by TF. And as far as I know the difference between K-Gut and NXT is only a bit color and the diameter.
BTW: Some TF people told me that NXT is nearly the same string as TR-3.

Kgut is nothing like NXT. Completely different feel.

parasailing
12-10-2010, 10:37 AM
Kgut is nothing like NXT. Completely different feel.


Agreed, Kgut and NXT are not alike, to me Kgut feels a bit more crisp than NXT which is a bit more comfortable. My preference would be X1, NRG2, NXT, and then KGut.

t135
12-10-2010, 10:55 AM
I also loved it. There were rave blind reviews by USRSA professional types to back up it's performance as well.

I asked on here recently about a similar string and was referred to Babolat Xcel. Looks similar but I haven't tried it.

parasailing
12-10-2010, 11:08 AM
I also loved it. There were rave blind reviews by USRSA professional types to back up it's performance as well.

I asked on here recently about a similar string and was referred to Babolat Xcel. Looks similar but I haven't tried it.

Xcel Power plays better than Kgut in my opinion though the most expensive multi out there. My rating would be X1, Xcel power, NRG2, NXT, then Kgut.

Ambivalent
12-10-2010, 11:10 AM
I loved KGut because it was a durable multi that didnt play like *****. Also, tension maintenance was amazing. Also, great crisp feeling and it didn't kink stupidly and start fraying on the stringer. I think the closest thing to it would be NRG2, and that's not exactly a cheap string either. But you pay for quality. I would take a set of KGut over that Gaucho crap any day.

timball
12-10-2010, 11:31 AM
I agree with Ambivalent. I used K-gut pro 17 and it played very crisp, held tension and consequent playability for longer than any multi I have used....X1, NRG, Gamma Pro and NXT Tour. I now use mostly X1 and it is a great multi but doesn't last nearly as long. Not from braking but from tension loss and thus becomming too powerful. In fairness, I have not tried Xcel. I would rate them;

K-gut Pro
X1
NRG
NXT Tour

I'm currently hitting with some Rip Control and it does have some interesting traights. Less power, more spin and time will tell on the tension side. My stringer only has 16 and I have always played with either 17 or 18 so there is obviously some differences associated with guage. If I knew for a fact that TF made K-gut I would try that string but I somehow doubt it. It plays nothing like either X1 or NRG. Yes soft, crisper than X1 and stayed playable until it broke. X1 and NRG both have to be cut out before breaking as I lose all control with both. It's been a few years since I used NXT Tour but as my memory serves me, it was the softest of the bunch and lost tension quicker than the others.

Just my $.02 worth!

parasailing
12-10-2010, 01:20 PM
I agree with Ambivalent. I used K-gut pro 17 and it played very crisp, held tension and consequent playability for longer than any multi I have used....X1, NRG, Gamma Pro and NXT Tour. I now use mostly X1 and it is a great multi but doesn't last nearly as long. Not from braking but from tension loss and thus becomming too powerful. In fairness, I have not tried Xcel. I would rate them;

K-gut Pro
X1
NRG
NXT Tour

I'm currently hitting with some Rip Control and it does have some interesting traights. Less power, more spin and time will tell on the tension side. My stringer only has 16 and I have always played with either 17 or 18 so there is obviously some differences associated with guage. If I knew for a fact that TF made K-gut I would try that string but I somehow doubt it. It plays nothing like either X1 or NRG. Yes soft, crisper than X1 and stayed playable until it broke. X1 and NRG both have to be cut out before breaking as I lose all control with both. It's been a few years since I used NXT Tour but as my memory serves me, it was the softest of the bunch and lost tension quicker than the others.

Just my $.02 worth!

I agree with your assessment of X1 and NRG but I find NXT Tour is not soft at all. It does break relatively quickly but felt more crisp than soft.

jura
12-14-2010, 12:15 AM
Now that I hold the 2011 Wilson dealer workbook in my hands I find K-Gut still listed. So I'm a bit confused if it's really discontinued.

kevoT
12-14-2010, 12:44 AM
Wilson said they were going to come out with a blxgut (basalt fibres you know) ;-)

coolblue123
12-14-2010, 02:54 AM
Wilson said they were going to come out with a blxgut (basalt fibres you know) ;-)

It'll be really interesting how they explain incorporating volcanic rocks in the strings? Must be a heavy string...

tlm
12-14-2010, 04:43 PM
Wilson said they were going to come out with a blxgut (basalt fibres you know) ;-)

Is this new string a kgut upgrade?

Kemitak
12-20-2010, 09:05 AM
Had my K90 strung with Kgut, which I liked (although it frayed too soon), but now I've strung it with Babolat Tonic. I still can't believe it, but I actually prefer the Kgut. Tonic ( + some string savers) cost me $72 CAD, and after a good two hours it was unraveling about as much as the cheaper Wilson gut. Plus, it doesn't play as predictably or bite the ball as well as the Kgut (both strung at 65 lbs).

But, since Kgut is still overpriced, I'd much rather pay the $$ for Gamma Professional, which lasts forever.

Speed Kat
12-20-2010, 10:37 AM
Wilson said they were going to come out with a blxgut (basalt fibres you know) ;-) did the kgut have karophite particles in it? if so the blx gut will have basalt fibres!

I agree with Ambivalent. I used K-gut pro 17 and it played very crisp, held tension and consequent playability for longer than any multi I have used....

Kgut pro 17 was pretty awesome esp in 18x20 youtek speedmp.. wonder when the replacement will be available and if it will be similar/better/anygood...