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FeVer
01-19-2011, 09:53 AM
Someone on this board claims that Verdasco hit a 189kph forehand winner in his match with Tipsarevic today. Can anyone verify this?

Also, is 189kph therefore the fastest winner on record now?

TBrady
01-19-2011, 10:11 AM
If its the forehand I remember Brad Gilbert commenting on it was 159 kph.

BrooklynNY
01-19-2011, 10:14 AM
I remember seeing it, it did read 189ks.
But........ it was a put away forehand 3 feet from the net. So if the radar gun measures the speed of the ball right over the net, in this case it would also be measuring the speed of the ball right off the racquet as well. Which is an inaccurate way to measure.

AndyArodRoddick
01-19-2011, 10:14 AM
Someone on this board claims that Verdasco hit a 189kph forehand winner in his match with Tipsarevic today. Can anyone verify this?

Also, is 189kph therefore the fastest winner on record now?

I dont think he has the ability to hit that much. Thats like 120? No way Verdasco can rip it that way.

fundrazer
01-19-2011, 10:16 AM
Even if this forehand was in fact 189kph, I believe Gael Monfils has it beat with a 120mph forehand.

FeVer
01-19-2011, 10:17 AM
I dont think he has the ability to hit that much. Thats like 120? No way Verdasco can rip it that way.

If Monfils can hit those sort of speeds, so can Verdasco.

jack_kramer
01-19-2011, 10:19 AM
In terms of peak velocity I woud say Gonzo.

Sustained, flat-ball power forehand - Delpo (eg USO '09)

li0scc0
01-19-2011, 10:21 AM
In terms of peak velocity I woud say Gonzo.

Sustained, flat-ball power forehand - Delpo (eg USO '09)

Yes and yes.

Gonzalez or DelPotro can hit harder than Verdasco or Monfils!

rovex
01-19-2011, 10:32 AM
I remember seeing it, it did read 189ks.
But........ it was a put away forehand 3 feet from the net. So if the radar gun measures the speed of the ball right over the net, in this case it would also be measuring the speed of the ball right off the racquet as well. Which is an inaccurate way to measure.

But then it means every other huge forehand is not faire, since they are all hit from a different location on the court. It doesn't work like that.

BrooklynNY
01-19-2011, 10:57 AM
But then it means every other huge forehand is not faire, since they are all hit from a different location on the court. It doesn't work like that.

Ok, I'm just telling the OP my recollection of the topic.

killer
01-19-2011, 11:00 AM
As a quick mention, delPo's power was on display yesterday...how he generates that much flat on low balls is insane.

Cup8489
01-19-2011, 12:46 PM
Agreed on the Delpo power..

but the speedometer on EPSN showed 117 MPH for the forehand that Tobasco hit.. and while it was a putaway forehand, he also had less room to hit in. It was brutal, especially since he hit a line judge doing it.

but hey, the guy was pumped up

single_handed_champion
01-19-2011, 12:55 PM
Wasn't that Monfils forehand against Baghdatis in 2007 (IIRC) clocked at 140 mph? I might be wrong, but that is the number that I remember for some reason.

AndyArodRoddick
01-19-2011, 12:56 PM
Wasn't that Monfils forehand against Baghdatis in 2007 (IIRC) clocked at 140 mph? I might be wrong, but that is the number that I remember for some reason.

I lold..120 it is.

aldeayeah
01-19-2011, 12:57 PM
I dont think he has the ability to hit that much. Thats like 120? No way Verdasco can rip it that way.

Verdasco can rip it absurdly. Roddick used to say he had the biggest forehand on tour.

Djokovicfan4life
01-19-2011, 12:58 PM
That forehand 3 feet from the net could have easily been that fast. But it was a high ball putaway, basically a slap with no topspin. From the baseline he seems to top out around 170 KPH.

aceX
01-19-2011, 01:19 PM
Wasn't that Monfils forehand against Baghdatis in 2007 (IIRC) clocked at 140 mph? I might be wrong, but that is the number that I remember for some reason.

wow..... that's a fast serve.... forehand..... it would just be incorrect

MethodTennis
01-19-2011, 01:23 PM
wait what shots are measured as the pass the net, i thought it was pretty much straight off the strings or close enough anyway?

Djokovicfan4life
01-19-2011, 01:24 PM
wait what shots are measured as the pass the net, i thought it was pretty much straight off the strings or close enough anyway?

They're measured off the strings, but when the ball is high and so close to the net, you don't need any topspin to put the ball away, so you can hit it faster.

single_handed_champion
01-19-2011, 01:33 PM
How are these measured anyway? High speed cameras? If so, why weren't there high-quality video replays of line calls when the speed-guns started to be used? A good video slow-mo replay is as good as Hawkeye.

killer
01-19-2011, 01:41 PM
Verdasco can rip it absurdly. Roddick used to say he had the biggest forehand on tour.

Yup, and Roddick's fh is now relegated to middle-of-the-road, along with the rest of his game. I really miss how huge he used to hit his forehand.

shadows
01-19-2011, 01:46 PM
A mere 117mph, I suppose it's about as close to a triumph as Verdasco is likely to get this fortnight though?

Azzurri
01-19-2011, 04:27 PM
I thought DeLpo had the biggest FH and would put Gonzo up there..but my god Verdasco hit some thunder against Tipsy.

Fate Archer
01-20-2011, 12:45 AM
I remember seeing it, it did read 189ks.
But........ it was a put away forehand 3 feet from the net. So if the radar gun measures the speed of the ball right over the net, in this case it would also be measuring the speed of the ball right off the racquet as well. Which is an inaccurate way to measure.

But isn't that the way modern radar tracking guns work? It's the speed right off the racquet from what I heard. Or at least on serves. Groundstrokes shouldn't be different.

Btw, I always thought Verdasco could produce the same power as Nando when ripping a power forehand. When I first saw him playing my first impression was that he was like a lefty Fernando Gonzalez.

fuzz nation
01-20-2011, 08:37 AM
I can comfortably agree that Verdasco is hitting it harder than most...

He's also definitely hitting it hard enough...