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NY12345v
06-13-2005, 12:19 PM
Who had the best forehand ever? Was it Alberto Berasetegui?

Jonnyf
06-13-2005, 12:21 PM
from modern time (my age)
Roddick and Nadal's are huge

Tennis Psycho
06-13-2005, 12:39 PM
from modern time (my age)
Roddick and Nadal's are huge

Perfect. That was exactly what I was going to say.

Grimjack
06-13-2005, 12:42 PM
Ivan Lendl.

Jonnyf
06-13-2005, 12:44 PM
Perfect. That was exactly what I was going to say.

oooohhh well sorry

NY12345v
06-13-2005, 12:48 PM
On a slow hard court does it favor a player with a certain type of forehand grip (Eastern vs Western) or is it pretty much equal footing?

NY12345v
06-13-2005, 12:50 PM
Why does John Mcenroe always like to mention Alberto Berasetegui's name on TV? Is it because of his extremeeeee western grip?

Jonnyf
06-13-2005, 12:50 PM
Fast courts the more western the more topspin which will help some players

slice bh compliment
06-13-2005, 01:06 PM
Rod Laver,Guillermo Vilas,Bjorn Borg,Mats Wilander,Ivan Lendl,Jimmy Arias,Andre Agassi,Jim Courier,Yevgeny Kafelnikov,Carlos Moya,Marcelo Rios,Pete Sampras,Roger Federer.

Categories within the category--my opinion...

Pace: Roddick.
Spin: Nadal.
Magic on the run: Pete.
Inside-out: Courier/Berasategui.
Most fearsome: Ivan Lendl.
Ridiculous passing shots: Borg/Wilander.
Rock steady: Vilas/Kafelnikov.
All-around weapon offensively AND defensively: Agassi/Moya.
Best disguise/slickest/smoothest: Federer/Rios.
Nominee for best underhanded serve, which technically is a forehand: Chang.

And the award for best overall forehand goes to: Ivan Lendl...wait, this just in, the winner is Andre Agassi, who had a last minute surge in points for being called, "not much more than a haircut and a forehand" by none other than Ivan Lendl. A controversial call by the Armenian judge deeming that remark admissable. Lendl, however does not go home empty-handed -- he gets the nod for outstanding not-so backhanded compliment by a sarcastic SOB. Congratulations, gentlemen.

exhaleexplode
06-13-2005, 01:06 PM
On a good day I swear it's mine. Really!

gifted_shotmaker
06-13-2005, 01:06 PM
Borg, Lendl, Graf, Courier

ambro
06-13-2005, 01:18 PM
No, fast courts like grass are better suited towards Eastern/Semi-Western. Slow courts like clay are better for Western grips like Nadal.

gugafanatic
06-13-2005, 01:18 PM
JCF had the best forehand on the tour prior to injury and changing racket to Head.

NY12345v
06-13-2005, 01:22 PM
I added 8 grams of lead tape to my Flexpoint Radical Tour and it is sweet! (Luxilon Big Banger Original).

Jonnyf
06-13-2005, 01:22 PM
No, fast courts like grass are better suited towards Eastern/Semi-Western. Slow courts like clay are better for Western grips like Nadal.

ok sorry i just thought you know lots of Topspin on fast court= High bounce

safin_protege
06-13-2005, 01:29 PM
The best 'classic' strokes would have to be Smith and Sampras. However, the modern game calls for different strokes, and I think that Federer has the best 'modern' stroke.

slice bh compliment
06-13-2005, 01:30 PM
Good call guys: Guga, Ferrero, Bruguera for the passes and the top.

gifted_shotmaker
06-13-2005, 01:37 PM
In the men's game more recently, it would have to be Ferrero, Federer, Nadal, Agassi, and Moya.

Return_Ace
06-13-2005, 01:52 PM
*gasp* shotmaker no safin??? no that is a first.............:)

I have to say:

Roddick
Agassi
Nadal
Federer

Jonnyf
06-13-2005, 01:54 PM
safin has a BH not an FH

urban
06-13-2005, 01:55 PM
Some of the best. 20s: Johnston (old western grip), Cochet, 30s: Perry, Vines,40s: Kramer, 50s: Hoad, Segura, 60s: Laver, Santana, Newcombe, 70s: Borg (new western), Nastase, 80s: Lendl, Becker, Krickstein, 90s (Bollettieri-style): Courier, Agassi, Sampras, Bruguera, since 2000: Federer, Roddick, Ferrero.

Jonnyf
06-13-2005, 01:56 PM
Some of the best. 20s: Johnston (old western grip), Cochet, 30s: Perry, Vines,40s: Kramer, 50s: Hoad, Segura, 60s: Laver, Santana, Newcombe, 70s: Borg (new western), Nastase, 80s: Lendl, Becker, Krickstein, 90s (Bollettieri-style): Courier, Agassi, Sampras, Bruguera, since 2000: Federer, Roddick, Ferrero.


Brilliantly said urban

gifted_shotmaker
06-13-2005, 01:57 PM
*gasp* shotmaker no safin??? no that is a first.............:)


hahaha, yeah, Safin does the most damage with the 2hander.

Andres
06-13-2005, 02:48 PM
My choices are Fernando Gonzalez, Tomy Haas and Juan Carlos Ferrero ;)

Oscar
06-13-2005, 02:52 PM
Lendl and Graf

Nosoupforyou
06-13-2005, 03:34 PM
I love Moya's forehand, so beautiful technically imo. I don't think Roddick's is that great, he pounds the **** out of the ball with it but his placement doesn't seem to be that great with it, or it could just be because he stands so far behind the baseline that his power is often negated.

fastdunn
06-13-2005, 03:35 PM
The best 'classic' strokes would have to be Smith and Sampras. However, the modern game calls for different strokes, and I think that Federer has the best 'modern' stroke.

I'm not sure if Federer's forehand is even the best among modern players.
He seems to need to plant his right foot securely for his forehand.

If he is strteched wide and has to hit it on the run, his forehand
replies are surprisingly weeak which Safin and Nadal exploited
successfully and repeatedly.

He is also tad slow coming in when hitting forehand approach
shot(on the run) which makes him err on his volley.
It mean to be a finisher. Not mean to be an approach
shot to induce floaters for volleying, IMHO.

FedererUberAlles
06-13-2005, 04:59 PM
He can really pound the ball though, but not as hard as a few others.

Meat
06-13-2005, 06:18 PM
My choices are Fernando Gonzalez, Tomy Haas and Juan Carlos Ferrero ;)

Haas? He's certainly way up there in the backhand department, but not top with his forehands.

Federer's forehand has great results, but not as great on the run (as fastdunn stated). It also tends to crack under pressure, as far as I've seen, and begins to create some mishits.

I'm not going to say Nadal, because while it is certainly hard to return, there isn't much variation, he pretty much just loads it with topspin every time. I can't speak against the results though, although I'd like him to attack more.

Ferrero is definitely up there. Federer would probably be top if it didn't seem to crack so much.

Personally, Agassi's is great. Compact stroke, but he's able to get huge pace off it and take it early. Not to mention he can work the angles pretty well, too.

ShooterMcMarco
06-13-2005, 06:29 PM
federer, sampras, courier, jcf, puerta, gonzalez to name a few

edit: agassi, his is always cleanly hit and its relentless.

uNIVERSE mAN
06-13-2005, 06:44 PM
I'm not sure if Federer's forehand is even the best among modern players.
He seems to need to plant his right foot securely for his forehand.

If he is strteched wide and has to hit it on the run, his forehand
replies are surprisingly weeak which Safin and Nadal exploited
successfully and repeatedly.

He is also tad slow coming in when hitting forehand approach
shot(on the run) which makes him err on his volley.
It mean to be a finisher. Not mean to be an approach
shot to induce floaters for volleying, IMHO.

Thanks for your expert technical opinion.

NY12345v
06-13-2005, 08:25 PM
Drumroll please............

The answer is Murphy Jensen and Tracy Austin.

slice bh compliment
06-13-2005, 10:25 PM
Drumroll please............

The answer is Murphy Jensen and Tracy Austin.


Briiliant! A thread ender!
But don't you think this answer also belongs at the bottom of the 'favorite all time players' thread?

RiosTheGenius
06-13-2005, 10:56 PM
Moya's inside out is the best and most beautiful thing in tennis..... ok, I exagerated. but it's a great thing to see. the real best thing in tennis are Gaudio's blue socks.

verdasco67
06-14-2005, 12:27 AM
moya, puerta, nadal, federer, and GONZO!

iscottius
06-14-2005, 04:52 AM
I find it very interesting that a poster named "verdasco67" does not recognize that Fernando Verdasco has the biggest forehand on tour today!!!!! It is hands down the biggest forehand in tennis.

Pushmaster
06-14-2005, 05:21 AM
Modern era;

Moya, Federer (most versatile)
Gonzalez, Verdasco, Blake (most powerful)
Nadal, Roddick (most topspin)

slice bh compliment
06-14-2005, 05:51 AM
I find it odd that a poster named "PUSHmaster" forgot to mention the devastating forehands of Harold Solomon and Eddie Dibbs!

Rafa Nadal
06-14-2005, 06:05 AM
Whats with Gonzalez, Puerta?

basil J
06-14-2005, 06:06 AM
I would have to go with, Gonzo and Phillipousos for power, Nadal for action on the Ball, Federer for the best short ball put away I have ever seen, Aggasi for style and Pete Sampras for his running forehand.

verdasco67
06-14-2005, 10:24 AM
I find it very interesting that a poster named "verdasco67" does not recognize that Fernando Verdasco has the biggest forehand on tour today!!!!! It is hands down the biggest forehand in tennis.

oops forgot to put his name :P

doriancito
06-14-2005, 10:38 AM
gonzales is the best ! any one agree?

Pushmaster
06-14-2005, 01:58 PM
gonzales is the best ! any one agree?
For pure power (Fernando), maybe? But Federer has the best all-around forehand IMO.

safin_protege
06-14-2005, 05:56 PM
I'm not sure if Federer's forehand is even the best among modern players.

I think it is. It may not be as powerful as bashers like Roddick, but the placement and selection are amazing, as is his ability to retrieve balls on his forehand side. I have yet to see Fed's forehand be 'preyed upon' as you have mentioned. I know of no pro that can hit a perfect forehand while stretched extremely wide.

devila
06-14-2005, 06:49 PM
Federer has more agility and power than Roddick. Federer gets out of tight situations by bashing the ball and serving faster. Federer's not the brightest player of all time.
We've seen in Australia, Miami, Monte Carlo and French Open that his forehand has to be at its best in order to win.
Gonzalez bashes mindlessly.

RiosTheGenius
06-14-2005, 07:23 PM
c'mon now people, did everyone forget already about Rios' angles?? :)

Jet Rink
06-14-2005, 07:51 PM
Ivan Lendl.

Yep. Dead on.

Jet

VictorS.
06-14-2005, 09:49 PM
Lendl had a devastating forehand which had both power and accuracy.

I like Federer's forehand though. It's just such a athletic and graceful shot.

Nuke
06-15-2005, 05:32 AM
Best I've seen was Lendl's. For a brief time, Jimmy Arias had a fantastic forehand that was probably as good, but the rest of his game wasn't at the same level.