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ffrpg
04-22-2004, 09:23 AM
I just got done doing my very first string job on my ATS SS II and I think it went quite well. Some problems I ran into and really can't figure out is how I keep the tension consistent on tieoffs. The last mains (on each side) and the last cross string are a bit loose compared to the rest of the strings. How do I go about in solving this problem?

borisboris
04-22-2004, 10:11 AM
Make sure your knot is close to the grommet and pull it tight w/ needle nose - also your last tension on the x's should be a few lbs higher ex. stringing @ 60 lbs = last tension 62 lbs.

christian
04-22-2004, 02:05 PM
also you can tie the knots and then put the extra string on the clutch gripper and barely tighten it, then lower the bar about half way or so maybe more and hold it there for a few seconds to allow the untensioned string to gain some tension so that you will lose only a little tension.

Gaines Hillix
04-22-2004, 02:33 PM
Lower tension on tie-off strings is normal. Actually, this is not even an issue. The USRSA doesn't recommend even trying to compensate for it. You aren't supposed to hit the ball out there anyway. However, what I've found that helps as much as anything is to keep pressure on the tag end of the knot with parallel jaw pliers while releasing the tension head. Then clip the string. Never use your machine to pull the knot tight. Another mistake is using an awl in the grommet to keep it tight.

serveboy
05-09-2004, 10:48 PM
Another mistake is using an awl in the grommet to keep it tight.

I thought that was the best way to do it. Why do you not recommend it?

Gaines Hillix
05-10-2004, 06:27 AM
This can damage the string. An awl shouldn't be used except as a last resort to help clear a blocked hole.

coachrick
05-10-2004, 02:19 PM
As usual, Gaines speaks the truth. Also, the last(outside) strings(mains and crosses) will not have 'opposing' weaves on the 'other' side to offer resistance...thus the outside strings are easier to move and appear looser than they actually are. As such, they will always appear to be at a lower tension no matter what tricks are employed in tying off. As an important PS...I would choose just about any OTHER tie-off implement rather than needle-nose. I've seen more than a couple of injuries occur when the string broke or needle-nose slipped and suddenly a very sharp tool is headed faceward! It may not happen for 9,999 string jobs but it only takes one to mangle a body part. Let's be careful out there!

Gaines Hillix
05-10-2004, 05:26 PM
Coachrick makes a good point about using needle nosed pliers for tieing off. I see it done all the time, but a starting clamp, a pair of parallel jaw pliers or cam action pliers are much better and safer. Another tip on tieing off and maintaining as much tension as possible is to pull the first knot back and forth and then pull it tight. Then tie the second knot and keep tension on it with the pliers while releasing the clamp. Only then let go of the string and trim it. It makes a noticeable difference, IMO.