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Pioneer
02-14-2011, 09:59 AM
I searched but couldn't find anything. Only that it's 27.5 in

dgoran
02-14-2011, 11:59 AM
361gr

32.4 cm bal

381 sw

LM Instinct Tour XL

BBO

Pioneer
02-16-2011, 07:00 AM
you're the best

chrischris
02-16-2011, 07:19 AM
361gr

32.4 cm bal

381 sw

LM Instinct Tour XL

BBO



I would like to add 'Made In Austria' at the legendary Kennelbach plant.

basso
02-17-2011, 04:17 AM
'made in austria' does mean PT161 with pattern 16x19

FedererBestTennis
03-16-2011, 05:30 PM
I'm posting here because I don't want to make another thread, but why does Gasquet have no stencil on his racquet tonight???

Fuji
03-16-2011, 05:52 PM
He does? I just watched the match as well, and I saw it a hand full of times.

-Fuji

Seth
03-16-2011, 06:04 PM
He does? I just watched the match as well, and I saw it a hand full of times.

-Fuji

Good. Gasquet without a Tour XL would just be weird. He was such a hold-out to even get a PJ, choosing to bypass the Flexpoint graphics entirely.

Greg Raven
03-20-2011, 02:01 PM
I grabbed one of his sticks at IWTG and it was 314 grams, 32 cm balance, 376 swingweight.

dgoran
03-20-2011, 02:41 PM
Something seems off Did you mean 341?

Or maybe some of the specs are strung (sw) some are unstrung (weight)?

Greg Raven
03-20-2011, 02:51 PM
Something seems off Did you mean 341?

Or maybe some of the specs are strung (sw) some are unstrung (weight)?

Nope, I mean 314. Strung racquet right off the machine, ready to go on court.

dgoran
03-20-2011, 03:37 PM
Thank you Greg

WOW that is amazing so he went drastically down in weight since the last time you took these measurements in 2009

361gr

32.4bal

381 sw

Is it still extended?

thelastfurlong
03-20-2011, 04:17 PM
Wow, is that not quite light for a male pro? Very interesting...beginning of a new trend in the pro game maybe? Or just an experiment on Gasquet's part?

Also, what would the main benefit be of the lighter weight if the sw and balance is still approximately the same?

Thanks for the info Greg

ART ART
03-21-2011, 05:31 AM
I grabbed one of his sticks at IWTG and it was 314 grams, 32 cm balance, 376 swingweight.

This is a very dificult setup to achive.

376-SW, with only 32cm balance point and 314 grams ... very very difficult to achive that value of 376-SW !

What's the lenght of his racket Greg ?

Thank's for sharing :)

Ross K
03-21-2011, 05:34 AM
This is a very dificult setup to achive.

376-SW, with only 32cm balance point and 314 grams ... very very difficult to achive that value of 376-SW !

What's the lenght of his racket Greg ?

Thank's for sharing :)

Just... wo!:shock:


R.

ART ART
03-21-2011, 06:06 AM
Just... wo!:shock:


R.

Sorry? (ten ...)

[d]ragon
03-21-2011, 06:25 AM
That's one insane spec but it does sound fun to hit with. The lighter weight and HL balance should make the high swingweight manageable plus it would probably be very stable and monstrous when striking the ball

dgoran
03-21-2011, 07:16 AM
This is a very dificult setup to achive.

376-SW, with only 32cm balance point and 314 grams ... very very difficult to achive that value of 376-SW !

What's the lenght of his racket Greg ?

Thank's for sharing :)

This is what I was thinking To get that high of a swing weight his racket is probably pro stock "pt-161" around 250-260 gr stock with 30sw. and they add lead to 12 and about 1inch from the end.

kiteboard
03-21-2011, 08:05 AM
That's a ton of lead at 12 under the capped grommet.

kiteboard
03-21-2011, 08:45 AM
How can anyone hit a 103mph bh, with 314g?

Don't Let It Bounce
03-21-2011, 01:27 PM
How can anyone hit a 103mph bh, with 314g?They can't. But they can knock the hell out of one with a 376 SW! (While that's happening, the 314 is standing at the service line, facing Gasquet with its little hands up, begging him not to go to the net lest his racquet explode into high-modulus shrapnel.)

I've never heard of such a spec, but it has interesting implications and sounds great for a baseliner. I guess the wizards in Kennelbach got two lumps of lead, connected them with a force field, and painted the whole thing yellow and black.

I bet I'm not the only one here thinking about trying this with an old ultralight racquet...

kiteboard
03-21-2011, 04:32 PM
That's sort of a crazy spec. No way he can volley with that lump of lead at top. How can he serve?

PED
03-21-2011, 05:59 PM
I'm assuming that Gasquet is still using an XL stick.

If so, part of that 376 SW is coming from the extra length.

travlerajm
03-21-2011, 06:15 PM
I've used racquets with specs like that. Very polarized and very, very spin friendly.

But comes around a bit too slow on forehands for my taste.

baseline_monster
03-22-2011, 02:38 AM
He can hit such a hard ball with such a "light" stick through perfect technique, hence why he is a top pro and we look at rackets and try and make excuses for why we cant.

0d1n
03-22-2011, 03:22 AM
Dropping 50 grams from his racquet mass sounds ... highly improbable to me...but I guess it is possible.
Perhaps he's going through an experimentation phase, perhaps something related to injury...who knows.
Regardless, I've seen futures players (top 4-500 ATP) playing stock radicals (which are light in mass AND swing weight) so nothing should really surprise me anymore.

dgoran
03-22-2011, 04:51 AM
They hit the center of the sweet spot with such consistency that is does not matter if it is 300 or 350. I think it matter on off center hits but they do not make that mistake that often.

Cup8489
03-22-2011, 05:36 AM
Dropping 50 grams from his racquet mass sounds ... highly improbable to me...but I guess it is possible.
Perhaps he's going through an experimentation phase, perhaps something related to injury...who knows.
Regardless, I've seen futures players (top 4-500 ATP) playing stock radicals (which are light in mass AND swing weight) so nothing should really surprise me anymore.

Stock radicals eh? I suppose I can understand it to an extent, but i find the Radicals, in particular the MG radical, get pushed around pretty easily if you get handcuffed or are late to the ball.. But then those futures players probably are rarely mistiming!

Still, I was discouraged from beefing up the SW on a light racquet by those who claimed a lack of stability would result; guess they were not totally correct.

Don't Let It Bounce
03-22-2011, 01:25 PM
For those who find the numbers interesting...

The average polarization index (recoil wt/mass) for the 1200+ stock frames on the spreadsheet in front of me is 0.464, and almost everything falls within a few percentage points of that average. This Gasquet spec rolls in at an astounding 0.67.

Wilmot McCutcheon (http://www.racquetresearch.com/) has an overall spec he calls "Quality Index" (mr^2/I), for optimizing performance and safety. Lower is better, <1.10 is what he believes a good racquet ought to have, and his top-ranked racquet is the Prince Graphite Classic at 0.99. The Gasquet spec is 0.91.

SlowButSure
03-25-2011, 07:56 AM
Not wanting to question Greg's measurements, but those numbers are very strange.

Just doing the math, in order to get those stats the density of the material in the throat of the racquet would have to be well below any current racquet.

Just picking some really light, relatively high SW racquets, Gasquet's racquet would have to have at least 1/4 less weight in the throat than any of them. More telling, this racquet would have to have only 20-25% as much weight in the throat as many popular 'players' racquets (including APD, Prestige, 6.1 line). To have anywhere near the same playing characteristics, with 1/4 to 1/5 the weight in the throat, would be a major endeavor.

That would mean it's not only a special mold, but a completely different composition and layup.

It's the combination of the low weight and the balance that makes the numbers really hard to imagine. If either of these were different, it becomes a lot easier.

Again, not questioning Greg's measurements, but maybe the machine was off.

li0scc0
03-25-2011, 09:57 AM
I'm assuming that Gasquet is still using an XL stick.

If so, part of that 376 SW is coming from the extra length.

He always used a 27.5...wonder if it is now 28"?

tenis1
05-17-2011, 09:20 AM
I agree that 314g, 32 cm balance and 376 sw seems strange.

PurePrestige
05-17-2011, 09:01 PM
Hey Greg, would you be willing to speculate for us how they managed to drop around 45 grams from his old setup that you provided us with?
I'm really interested in how this might have been done, both Gasquet and Djokovic seem to be playing with racquets that cannot be replicated using any stock racquet.

Gasquet had specs at 361grams, 32.4cm, and 381swingweight for 2009 BNP. How did Head manage to get him down to 314grams, 32cm and 376 swingweight?
He dropped 47grams off his racket, but ended up with a more headlight balance at 32cm and only dropping 5 points of swingweight.
It'd be really interesting to see the platform frame they came up with, Gasquet seems to still be using the Liquidmetal Instinct XL frame shape @ 27.5in. and 100sq in.

This may be a new direction for racquet customizing, I'd like to see how the swingweight and balance were kept so high in the process. Djokovic specs seem interesting as well, given his specs and the stock specs of the Head Youtek/IG Speeds it wouldn't really be possibly to weight a racket up the same way without going much higher in static weight.

Timbo's hopeless slice
05-17-2011, 09:38 PM
pay attention, it's a force field!!

christo
05-17-2011, 10:02 PM
So let me get this straight, light in the throat but leaded at 12 o'clock
and leaded at the butt with a leather grip and overgrip. I still can't fathom SW of 370'ish with an overall weight of 314. It doesn't seem logical, Captain :shock:

Timbo's hopeless slice
05-17-2011, 10:05 PM
it's a racquet, christo, but not as we know it...