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JRstriker12
02-27-2011, 01:56 PM
Noticed that Del Po was using a K-Factor stick vs. Tipsarevic.

So I sent a tweet to Wilson tennis asking why Del-Po was using the K-Factor and Wilson replied:

http://twitter.com/#!/WilsonTennis/status/41984331517923328

"We are glad he is back out competing and we will have something new from JM and us later this year. Stay tuned!"

Interesting. Wonder why he switched?

JimF
02-27-2011, 02:04 PM
DelPo went to BLX Pro Tour, which IMHO plays quite hard and stiff. Probably not the best thing for someone trying to come back from wrist surgery.

His old 95 six-one is a lot easier on the wrist. Heavy swingweight and a bit of flex.

ci2ca
02-27-2011, 02:11 PM
DelPo went to BLX Pro Tour, which IMHO plays quite hard and stiff. Probably not the best thing for someone trying to come back from wrist surgery.

His old 95 six-one is a lot easier on the wrist. Heavy swingweight and a bit of flex.

He only used a paintjob. Get your flame suit on!

TheBoom
02-27-2011, 02:17 PM
Another stick :shock:

danielrios
02-27-2011, 02:19 PM
delete post

dr325i
02-27-2011, 08:44 PM
DelPo went to BLX Pro Tour, which IMHO plays quite hard and stiff. Probably not the best thing for someone trying to come back from wrist surgery.

His old 95 six-one is a lot easier on the wrist. Heavy swingweight and a bit of flex.

A good one. I can imagine how hard Djokovic's Speed Pro is on the wrist at the RA of 70? ;)

andfor
02-27-2011, 08:48 PM
He's using the old K-Factor. Saw it in Memphis. He's pretty sensitive about his wrist and having had surgery and a year off is likely playing with what he feels is safest for the wrist.

dr325i
02-27-2011, 09:11 PM
He's using the old K-Factor. Saw it in Memphis. He's pretty sensitive about his wrist and having had surgery and a year off is likely playing with what he feels is safest for the wrist.

It is the same racket he used for YEARS now, same as it was under the BLX PJ... Therefore, he is using the K-Factor PAINTJOB. Obviously, Wilson will create a special line for him or something...but under the paint will be the same exact racket...

John_Doe
02-27-2011, 09:35 PM
Anybody else think that superstition is part of the switch to the K-factor paint?

Bartelby
02-27-2011, 10:22 PM
yes, probably superstition, he won a GS with it and he crosses himself after all

gino
02-27-2011, 10:41 PM
What could they be making??????????
It's gotta be another player's frame.

Geeze Wilson, I think you need to realize you already have pretty extensive offering of rackets...

AlpineCadet
02-27-2011, 10:47 PM
Wilson doesn't want him to support the BLX Pro Tour any longer, so he's stuck using old KFactor PJ on whatever is under there.

drakulie
02-28-2011, 03:34 AM
I strung a frame for him this week at the Delray. Full lux alu power at 56 lbs.

Jokerulez
02-28-2011, 04:04 AM
i think it's a PJ only.., :)

ryushen21
02-28-2011, 04:17 AM
DelPo went to BLX Pro Tour, which IMHO plays quite hard and stiff. Probably not the best thing for someone trying to come back from wrist surgery.

His old 95 six-one is a lot easier on the wrist. Heavy swingweight and a bit of flex.

You may want to read the Sticky at the top of this section. Very useful insights about the PJ situation.

I was saying last week, I think he would have to be crazy not to have Wilson at least attempt to develop something close to his HPS 6.1 but with a softer feel to it so that he does not aggravate that wrist again.

dr325i.....Someday, I will snag one of Djoker's frames and throw that bad boy on an RDC for all the world to know the truth of the absurd flexiness of it.

jwbarrientos
02-28-2011, 05:08 AM
A 95 Delpo BLX is coming ... :lol:

"Killer groundstrokes while keeping your wrist healthy":roll:

jwbarrientos
02-28-2011, 05:12 AM
Wilson doesn't want him to support the BLX Pro Tour any longer, so he's stuck using old KFactor PJ on whatever is under there.

That's been the main question around, some bad thinking people :twisted: was saying that BLX Pro came up at the same time with his wrist issue, but good thinking people was commenting that Delpo was trying to went back to previous injury status (he is still wearing the same socks he wears at USO 09) :oops:

JRstriker12
02-28-2011, 07:17 AM
Just a thought.

If it's just superstition (switching the same stick with a BLX paintjob for the same stick with a K-factor paint job) then JMDP is going to take a big hit to the bank account as Wilson will not pay him the same amount of money to play with an old paint job instead of using a new paintjob to promote their newest line.

I'm thinking he actually used a BLX - or at least a version of it but went back to his old stick (whatever it is under the k-factor paint job).

Seeing as Wilson said they are coming up with something "new" then I'm guessing that odds are JMDP will be seen swinging whatever they come out with (at least a PJ version of it.)

IMHO - alot of tennis players (and athletes in general) are superstitious, but seems like they don't have any problems when it comes down to playing with a new PJ for a fat contract.

Levente
02-28-2011, 07:57 AM
I strung a frame for him this week at the Delray. Full lux alu power at 56 lbs.

Hi,
Congratulation!
Than what is your opinion? Is Delpo frame BLX or K-Factor? You have to know.
Many thanks

drakulie
02-28-2011, 08:33 AM
^^^^^I don't think it is either. Will post some photos tonight when I get home and let you guys decide.

MethodTennis
02-28-2011, 08:38 AM
^^^^^I don't think it is either. Will post some photos tonight when I get home and let you guys decide.

(OFF TOPIC)

drak you changed your avvy back :D

ryushen21
02-28-2011, 09:33 AM
Just a thought.

If it's just superstition (switching the same stick with a BLX paintjob for the same stick with a K-factor paint job) then JMDP is going to take a big hit to the bank account as Wilson will not pay him the same amount of money to play with an old paint job instead of using a new paintjob to promote their newest line.

I'm thinking he actually used a BLX - or at least a version of it but went back to his old stick (whatever it is under the k-factor paint job).

Seeing as Wilson said they are coming up with something "new" then I'm guessing that odds are JMDP will be seen swinging whatever they come out with (at least a PJ version of it.)

IMHO - alot of tennis players (and athletes in general) are superstitious, but seems like they don't have any problems when it comes down to playing with a new PJ for a fat contract.

Interesting. But I don't think he ever used the BLX. We all know the Pros are just too set in their ways. I'm thinking Wilson labeled his frame as as that to try to open up marketing for the Pro Open since Fed pretty well carries the 6.1 line.

I definitely agree about the superstition thing. They are probably all the same frame but he won his slam with the Kfactor PJ so that's whe he will use until they get his new frame and/or PJ ready.

I strung a frame for him this week at the Delray. Full lux alu power at 56 lbs.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that lower than he used to string. IIRC from one of the logs, he used to string around 62. Also, was that ALU smooth or rough.

drakulie
02-28-2011, 09:39 AM
Not sure what he use to string at, but he strung at 56 the entire
Tourney. One of the few guys who did not change tension throughout.

Regular Alu power.

ryushen21
02-28-2011, 09:41 AM
Not sure what he use to string at, but he strung at 56 the entire
Tourney. One of the few guys who did not change tension throughout.

Regular Alu power.

Good to know. Thanks for the response.

AlpineCadet
02-28-2011, 10:58 AM
I strung a frame for him this week at the Delray. Full lux alu power at 56 lbs.
Drak, how have you been?! Any insight on the Delpo frame/weight?

drakulie
02-28-2011, 11:08 AM
Alpine, I'm doing good. How you been??? I'll post photos tonight with swing and static weight.

Levente
02-28-2011, 11:19 AM
^^^^^I don't think it is either. Will post some photos tonight when I get home and let you guys decide.

I hardly can wait.
Thx

AlpineCadet
02-28-2011, 02:21 PM
I've been good, tennis is good, and life is good. Hope all is well with you as well!

Azzurri
02-28-2011, 03:42 PM
Alpine, I'm doing good. How you been??? I'll post photos tonight with swing and static weight.

cool. thanks Drak. looking forward to the specs.

drakulie
02-28-2011, 05:53 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v736/drakulie/Delray%20ATP%20International%202011/delpotoframe3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v736/drakulie/Delray%20ATP%20International%202011/delpotroframe1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v736/drakulie/Delray%20ATP%20International%202011/delpotroframe2.jpg

drakulie
02-28-2011, 05:53 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v736/drakulie/Delray%20ATP%20International%202011/delpotroswingweight.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v736/drakulie/Delray%20ATP%20International%202011/delportoweight.jpg

drakulie
02-28-2011, 05:59 PM
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danielrios
02-28-2011, 06:57 PM
Nice stick man. It's me or he used to string at 63 lbs?

roundiesee
02-28-2011, 07:51 PM
Lovely photos ! Thanks drakulie !!

AlpineCadet
02-28-2011, 08:46 PM
Thanks Drak!

jura
03-01-2011, 01:34 AM
Nice stick man. It's me or he used to string at 63 lbs?
Yes he did. I strung his rackets in a tournament in 2008 and it was Alu Power at 63 lbs through the whole tournament.

PED
03-01-2011, 04:47 AM
Nice photos and thanks for taking the time to post them

I can tell in the SW shot that it's unstrung, is the 352g for the static weight unstrung as well, I can't see the hoop in the picture.

drakulie
03-01-2011, 06:08 AM
^^^PED, Yes, it is unstrung.

Bloodshed
03-01-2011, 06:52 AM
Guys. Under the K-Factor paintjob, all his life Del Po always used the Hyper Pro Staff 6.1 with a 18*20 string pattern strung @ 56 lbs.

petema99
03-01-2011, 07:30 AM
awesome pics, cheers drak! :)

Levente
03-01-2011, 08:17 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v736/drakulie/Delray%20ATP%20International%202011/delpotroswingweight.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v736/drakulie/Delray%20ATP%20International%202011/delportoweight.jpg

Hi Drakulie,
Many thanks for the photos.
So Delpo played with a K-Factor Racquet during the Delray Tournament.
But wilson showes he is useing the BLX Pro Tour Racquets. It is conflict, isn't it?

sureshs
03-01-2011, 09:10 AM
Several questions:

Is 317 the weight in grams or the SW? I assume SW by the way the racquet is positioned for measurements.

Then what is the unstrung weight?

Also, what is the balance? I see you don't use the Prince machine built in mechanism for balance (with a rotating knob to move the frame till it balances). How do you read the balance on the other setup?

vsbabolat
03-01-2011, 09:13 AM
Awesome photos drakulie!!!

PED
03-01-2011, 11:28 AM
Guys. Under the K-Factor paintjob, all his life Del Po always used the Hyper Pro Staff 6.1 with a 18*20 string pattern strung @ 56 lbs.

Your frame info is correct, but as Jura mentioned above, his old tension was 63lbs not 56. he's dropped tension in the wake of the wrist issue from last year.

Azzurri
03-01-2011, 05:25 PM
Several questions:

Is 317 the weight in grams or the SW? I assume SW by the way the racquet is positioned for measurements.

Then what is the unstrung weight?

Also, what is the balance? I see you don't use the Prince machine built in mechanism for balance (with a rotating knob to move the frame till it balances). How do you read the balance on the other setup?

the 317 is SW w/out the strings. looks like 352 grams w/out strings.

also curious what the balance is.

The Baseline
03-01-2011, 05:51 PM
the 317 is SW w/out the strings. looks like 352 grams w/out strings.

also curious what the balance is.

it has to be a lot different than the wilson as far as balance goes, those babolats seem headlight, sad to see Sampras turn his back on Wilson like that.

big bang
03-01-2011, 06:36 PM
it has to be a lot different than the wilson as far as balance goes, those babolats seem headlight, sad to see Sampras turn his back on Wilson like that.
Say what?, I think you are in the wrong thread dude:confused:

drakulie
03-01-2011, 07:55 PM
Guys,

the swing weight of his frame, unstrung, was 317.

weight was 355. Not sure about the balance, as I really didn't bother checking it. I will say that it swung really light (even with strings), and was very well balanced. I was extremely surprised how easily it cut through the air.

Blakes frame is another story. That thing is a damn log. I think it is about 370 or 380 grams, and he strings at about 68 lbs (full lux alu power).

W1L50N=B3A5T
03-01-2011, 08:38 PM
Guys,

the swing weight of his frame, unstrung, was 317.

weight was 355. Not sure about the balance, as I really didn't bother checking it. I will say that it swung really light (even with strings), and was very well balanced. I was extremely surprised how easily it cut through the air.

Blakes frame is another story. That thing is a damn log. I think it is about 370 or 380 grams, and he strings at about 68 lbs (full lux alu power).

is his frame extended or did it seem standard length?

SirGounder
03-01-2011, 09:30 PM
is his frame extended or did it seem standard length?

I was wondering the same thing.

Pretty sweet pics Drakulie.

Pocky
03-01-2011, 11:24 PM
If I recall, K61 95 has a shinny PJ not matt.

And there is a Wilson logo at the throat in which, is missing. Probably a shortened stick. Completely different IMO.

New stick underway!

drakulie
03-02-2011, 05:01 AM
Guys, I didn't check if it was extended or standard. However, when swinging it, I think I would have noticed if it was extended so I'm fairly certain it was standard.

JRstriker12
03-02-2011, 05:21 AM
Guys, I didn't check if it was extended or standard. However, when swinging it, I think I would have noticed if it was extended so I'm fairly certain it was standard.

BTW- thanks for the picts Drak!

sureshs
03-02-2011, 09:06 AM
Guys,

the swing weight of his frame, unstrung, was 317.

weight was 355. Not sure about the balance, as I really didn't bother checking it. I will say that it swung really light (even with strings), and was very well balanced. I was extremely surprised how easily it cut through the air.

Blakes frame is another story. That thing is a damn log. I think it is about 370 or 380 grams, and he strings at about 68 lbs (full lux alu power).

12.5 oz unstrung?

SandV
03-02-2011, 09:24 AM
yes, probably superstition, he won a GS with it and he crosses himself after all

Only when he wins

Rabbit
03-02-2011, 01:42 PM
Nice photos and thanks for taking the time to post them

I can tell in the SW shot that it's unstrung, is the 352g for the static weight unstrung as well, I can't see the hoop in the picture.

^^^PED, Yes, it is unstrung.

12.5 oz unstrung?

reading is our friend

sureshs
03-02-2011, 02:06 PM
reading is our friend

Yes, I converted 352/355 grams from his post into oz for my clarity as I don't think in grams and I was surprised it was so high because that would be almost 13 oz strung, hence the question mark to see if anyone felt the same, especially for a guy recovering from wrist injuries who has already lowered his tension.

It is a bit subtle for some people to grasp, I understand that. Sorry about that. I will be more explicit next time so everyone can follow.

jwbarrientos
03-02-2011, 02:40 PM
Guys,

the swing weight of his frame, unstrung, was 317.

weight was 355. Not sure about the balance, as I really didn't bother checking it. I will say that it swung really light (even with strings), and was very well balanced. I was extremely surprised how easily it cut through the air.

Blakes frame is another story. That thing is a damn log. I think it is about 370 or 380 grams, and he strings at about 68 lbs (full lux alu power).

That weight is reached adding lead tape, am I ok?
and strings (12/15 grs) + damp (4/5 grs), is could be strung around more or less 370??

drakulie
03-02-2011, 08:53 PM
^^yes, if you look at the photo of the head of the frame, you will see a lot of lead at the 3 and 9 o'clock positions.

Ross K
03-03-2011, 03:58 AM
The young Del Po with HPS 6.1...


http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u291/RRohan/Delpotro-1.jpg



R.

Rabbit
03-03-2011, 04:06 AM
Yes, I converted 352/355 grams from his post into oz for my clarity as I don't think in grams and I was surprised it was so high because that would be almost 13 oz strung, hence the question mark to see if anyone felt the same, especially for a guy recovering from wrist injuries who has already lowered his tension.

It is a bit subtle for some people to grasp, I understand that. Sorry about that. I will be more explicit next time so everyone can follow.

OH, I see.

Usually in English when one questions the weight, one would post:

12.5 ounces isn't that a bit heavy considering a wrist injury?

And in English again when one doesn't understand whether the racquet is weighed strung or unstrung;

12 ounces unstrung?

Love Game
03-03-2011, 05:55 AM
Only when he wins

OT ... but ... that's not correct.

I've seen both delPotro and Baghdatis cross themselves when they lose as well as when they win. There are a few others who do, too.

the reason it seems otherwise is that the directors always focus on the winner when the match is over! :)

Love Game
03-03-2011, 06:00 AM
Lovely photos ! Thanks drakulie !!

absolutely ... much appreciated :)

must be nice to know you actually had a part in his win last week, drak! :D

Bravo!

sureshs
03-03-2011, 06:34 AM
OH, I see.

Usually in English when one questions the weight, one would post:

12.5 ounces isn't that a bit heavy considering a wrist injury?

And in English again when one doesn't understand whether the racquet is weighed strung or unstrung;

12 ounces unstrung?

I will be more explicit next time for those a little slow on the uptake, thanks for reminding me.

Sorry about any confusion.

Pioneer
03-06-2011, 08:01 AM
352g would be about 370g strung and that swingweight would be in the 350-355 range

Gerco
03-08-2011, 04:30 AM
He was recently asked on a website for La Nacion newspaper why did he came back to his old racket. His response was he did it just because he had a better feeling with it.

-En 2010 usaste una nueva raqueta, pero ahora volviste a la que utilizaste en el US Open 09. ¿Por qué?

-Fue por una sensación mejor que tenía con esa raqueta, sólo por eso.


Full interview http://www.canchallena.com/1355756-mi-amor-propio-y-fuerza-interior-estan-intactos

ryushen21
03-08-2011, 12:00 PM
That was a really nice interview with Delpo. I enjoyed reading it in his native Spanish.

stringertom
03-08-2011, 01:53 PM
63# in a 18x20 95in. head w/100% Lux ALU: that 20-year-old wrist was a walking time bomb just waiting to explode! Anybody try to switch him to a gut/ALU hybrid, at least while his wrist fully heals? BTW, one post contained two words I've rarely heard combined: Wilson and flexible. All they make are stiff sticks.

ryushen21
03-09-2011, 12:03 PM
63# in a 18x20 95in. head w/100% Lux ALU: that 20-year-old wrist was a walking time bomb just waiting to explode! Anybody try to switch him to a gut/ALU hybrid, at least while his wrist fully heals? BTW, one post contained two words I've rarely heard combined: Wilson and flexible. All they make are stiff sticks.

I play in that same tension range with a 89.5in. head. No arm or wrist injuries here.

Wilson occasionally produces a stick that isn't horrifically stiff but it does happen occasionally.

stringertom
03-09-2011, 12:54 PM
I play in that same tension range with a 89.5in. head. No arm or wrist injuries here.

Wilson occasionally produces a stick that isn't horrifically stiff but it does happen occasionally.

Ryushen I'm glad your arm is well but the amount of balls DelPo had to hit to reach laser-speed took its toll on the young man's wrist. He ignored the printed 10%-less tension disclaimer on Lux packaging at his own peril and paid for it with a one-year forced vacation while at the top of his game. If he's at 56# now, lesson learned (the hard way). Your rationale that you're in the same range doesn't work unless: you play as much as he does, hit as hard as he does, restring daily like he does, play ALU instead of BCode(very soft poly much easier on arm) and play PS6.1 like he apparently does. Your 60# roughly equals his old 63# choice but ALU @ 63# is far harder than BCode @60# in your Prestige. At a Futures event last year, I strung for only 1 player in the 60#+ range using ALU. The winner, runner-up and one semi loser all played mid-to-high 50's. Still, the trainer's highest activity was treating from the shoulder to the wrist. As to Wilson stiffness reference, I said they rarely produce a flex stick. Rarely vs. Occasionally? Aren't you splitting hairs?

W1L50N=B3A5T
05-28-2011, 05:59 PM
Drakulie, did u notice whether or not if he was using a leather or synthetic grip?

drakulie
05-28-2011, 06:42 PM
^^^I didn't check. sorry. :(

philosoraptor
05-31-2011, 02:34 PM
i posted this on the other thread about federer switching to a racquet with a bigger head on the general pro discussion forum...My local pro shop's owner heard from the reps that wilson was making a special us open racquet, maybe the racquet that Federer and Sampras want (a bigger headsize) and the one that Del Po might switch to, be the same as this us open edition

drakulie
05-31-2011, 07:13 PM
^^^It is extremely doubtful that Fed will switch to another racquet in the middle of a season.

philosoraptor
06-01-2011, 11:02 AM
^^^It is extremely doubtful that Fed will switch to another racquet in the middle of a season.

you're probably right about that, could end up being a pj for uso :)

callmethedoctor
06-01-2011, 11:20 AM
I think Wilson didn't think DelPo would come back strong, so they didn't give him a contract (which would have forced him to use a BLX PJ). Therefore, the K Factor is his actual racket of choice. They wouldn't do a PJ and make it a K6.1 obviously...

Carolina Racquet
06-02-2011, 02:49 AM
I discussed Delpo with a Wilson rep who says he's under contract with normal incentives, but it pays him less than it would if he went with a current model PJ.

They made a "set" of BLX PJ sticks for him to use and he rejected them. He's very partial to the K Factor PJ because he likes it.

Weird, but true.

philosoraptor
06-02-2011, 11:23 AM
It could just be that he's a little supersticious since he's won the uso with that racquet. I mean once he switched to the blx pjs, he's had problems. It might be a coincidence to us, but to him it might actually be a supersticion

Fedace
06-02-2011, 11:43 AM
Hi,
Congratulation!
Than what is your opinion? Is Delpo frame BLX or K-Factor? You have to know.
Many thanks

how the heck does he control the ball so well at 56 lbs ?? such low tension, won't there be trampoline effect ??

Kunohara
06-02-2011, 11:56 AM
how the heck does he control the ball so well at 56 lbs ?? such low tension, won't there be trampoline effect ??

56lbs isnt low tension.

formula16
06-04-2011, 12:34 AM
how the heck does he control the ball so well at 56 lbs ?? such low tension, won't there be trampoline effect ??

*facepalm.

JoelDali
06-04-2011, 01:58 AM
how the heck does he control the ball so well at 56 lbs ?? such low tension, won't there be trampoline effect ??

http://www.parenting-blog.net/wp-content/uploads/online-preschool.jpg

chip&chrge
06-11-2011, 04:17 AM
how the heck does he control the ball so well at 56 lbs ?? such low tension, won't there be trampoline effect ??

He probably does get a little bit of a trampoline effect...but that is a pretty stiff string and restrings after each time he hits on the stick.

No matter how springy the setup as long as he keeps the ball in and cranks that forehand as hard as he does, I would say that it is working out pretty good for Delpo!

Has anyone heard more about this player's stick that Wilson is supposed to release for him to use as I'm sure they won't be supporting the K Factor PJ forever.

li0scc0
06-11-2011, 04:20 AM
how the heck does he control the ball so well at 56 lbs ?? such low tension, won't there be trampoline effect ??

At 56??? That isn't low at all.

Smasher08
06-13-2011, 05:40 AM
They made a "set" of BLX PJ sticks for him to use and he rejected them. He's very partial to the K Factor PJ because he likes it.

I don't blame him: imo the k6.1 PJ is one of the best ever. Personally, I don't think the BLX6.1 even comes close.

Stormcrow
07-20-2011, 09:00 AM
Just noticed on Tennis Warehouse Europe the BLX Pro Tour's went on closeout. That frame hardly lasted a year. I imagine it won't be long before they are closed out here in U.S also. It would seem a new paintjob for Del Potro and retail stick to match wouldn't be too far away. Or maybe they are just scrapping the Pro Tour since the BLX or K didn't sell very well.