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leonidas1982
02-28-2011, 02:31 PM
This looks like a blackout frame or maybe a return to the KPS88.

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/181571_10150093946732187_96832392186_6728971_78093 31_n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/190175_10150093958402187_96832392186_6729069_57875 08_n.jpg

AM95
02-28-2011, 02:39 PM
impossible to tell with those pictures.

i would guess with a wilson though.

kevoT
02-28-2011, 02:41 PM
his 85s maybe? blacked out...

AkilKB
02-28-2011, 03:28 PM
hmmm maybe a blx upgrade to the kps88 ;) dare i hope? :D

nalbandian
02-28-2011, 03:39 PM
hmmm maybe a blx upgrade to the kps88 ;) dare i hope? :D

That would be sooo great

leonidas1982
02-28-2011, 03:49 PM
It was around this time 3 years ago when the KPS88 prototype hit the stage at the Madison Square Garden exhibition with Federer.

CHOcobo
02-28-2011, 03:51 PM
any live streaming available?? i haven't seen the two in action yet.

leonidas1982
02-28-2011, 03:57 PM
http://espn.go.com/broadband/espn360/index

CHOcobo
02-28-2011, 04:11 PM
known any others? i've trying to find my comcast id. lol. i cant find it. thanks.



http://espn.go.com/broadband/espn360/index

thanks for the other link!!!

CANTGETENOUGHTENNIS!
02-28-2011, 05:09 PM
that would be awesome if there was an update-i've emailed wilson extensively about this and as you can tell by my signature would be B.A.

leonidas1982
02-28-2011, 05:11 PM
It looks as though it is a midplus racket. It doesn't have the PWS.

leonidas1982
02-28-2011, 05:26 PM
From September:

http://tennisworld.typepad.com/the_pro_shop/2010/09/mailbag-pistol-petes-new-pure-storm.html

I just saw some clips of Pete Sampras and Andre Agassi at an exhibition and it appears Pete has switched to a Babolat racquet that looks like a version of the Pure Storm. I remember hearing that he enjoyed Roddick's Babolat but didn't know he made a permanent switch. Can you confirm and how does it compare to his Wilson Pro Staff?—Eshan

Sure enough, Eshan, Pistol Pete is packing the Pure Storm Tour these days, according to his personal racquet customizer and stringer, Nate Ferguson. “It’s almost his old weight and balance of a decade ago, with stationary weight of about 390 grams [13.8 ounces],” Ferguson reports. He’s also now using the hot Babolat RPM Blast polyester string that Rafael Nadal introduced at the Australian Open this year. Looks like Sampras has joined the Babolat and poly bandwagon. He used just one racquet type, the Wilson Pro Staff, and played with gut during his career.

themitchmann
02-28-2011, 05:34 PM
Last pics of Sampras playing with a non pj racquet:

Babolat Pure Storm.

Fee
02-28-2011, 05:49 PM
But wasn't there a story/rumor/hope that Wilson was trying to lure Pete back?

Cup8489
02-28-2011, 05:52 PM
But wasn't there a story/rumor/hope that Wilson was trying to lure Pete back?

which would likely explain the blacked out frame.

The Wreck
02-28-2011, 05:53 PM
That's definitely not a Pure Storm....at least, it sure doesn't look like one shape/size wise...

Cup8489
02-28-2011, 06:00 PM
how so?
10aces

leonidas1982
02-28-2011, 06:04 PM
It doesn't seem to have a box beam.

The Wreck
02-28-2011, 06:09 PM
Can't put my finger on it exactly, but I just stared at my Pure Storm and they just don't look the same. Also looks like a really small head size, but my perception could be off.

roundiesee
02-28-2011, 06:18 PM
Wow, thanks for posting the pics! :) Pete really looks in great physical shape; hope he played well. Which exo is this and can somebody post some comments on the match and the racket he used? Thanks!

leonidas1982
02-28-2011, 06:55 PM
Sampras wins 6-3 7-5

cnr1guy
02-28-2011, 07:06 PM
Sampras wins 6-3 7-5

I'm watching this delayed on my DVR- thanks for ruining it! :evil:

tennisnoob3
02-28-2011, 07:08 PM
I'm watching this delayed on my DVR- thanks for ruining it! :evil:

:confused:

arent these types of events rigged anyway?

cnr1guy
02-28-2011, 07:12 PM
:confused:

arent these types of events rigged anyway?

What like Andre is gonna just lay down for Pete or at some sponsor's request??? No chance!

tennisnoob3
02-28-2011, 07:14 PM
What like Andre is gonna just lay down for Pete or at some sponsor's request??? No chance!

exhibition matches are serious business. sampras would bribe agassi with loads of cash and kps88s in exchange for the glorious victory

EdVin70
02-28-2011, 07:14 PM
+1, It looked big from a couple of angles; head and beam.

I think its the Pure Storm Tour GT blacked out; with RPM to boot

VGP
02-28-2011, 07:22 PM
....plus a red Sampras Unique dampener.....

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/78/fullj.0f20065c9b0025ae9ed64115155f9b34/0f20065c9b0025ae9ed64115155f9b34-getty-108940827cc050_bnp_paribas_.jpg

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/bd/fullj.2f7431e8b8b704af5579984d73bc1ceb/2f7431e8b8b704af5579984d73bc1ceb-getty-108940827cc047_bnp_paribas_.jpg

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/2e/fullj.12d23346c60b0cca896449d7c08c6055/12d23346c60b0cca896449d7c08c6055-getty-108940827cc076_bnp_paribas_.jpg

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/ap/40/fullj.e493891debbd779c98fa4dd02b6550e6/ap-3a88fb4fbbea4bb081fd02592c0629ed.jpg

Lsmkenpo
02-28-2011, 07:35 PM
http://i54.tinypic.com/123laq1.gif

Looks like the same pure storm blacked out with a ton of lead tape at 3 and 9.

tennistomcat
02-28-2011, 07:41 PM
The head shape of the racket at the 3 & 9 o'clock where the lead tape is doesn't look rounded enough like I'd expect it to be like for a babolat - it almost looks yonex-like at the sides to me. I've only hit with it once but it reminded me of the head shape of the volkl power bridge 10 mid but I'm probably way off. Any other guesses or is it still the storm? He played well with it & was solid at the net.

roundiesee
02-28-2011, 07:45 PM
Is he contracted to Wilson? Why does he need to black out the frame, since he had previously used the Pure Storm Tour openly?

cy1126dragonamul
02-28-2011, 07:49 PM
it sure looks like blacked out pure storm...

ucr_tennis90
02-28-2011, 07:58 PM
it sure looks like blacked out pure storm...

i came to the same conclusion. i'm watching the match right now and it looks like a pure storm to me.

Lsmkenpo
02-28-2011, 08:06 PM
This pic should leave no doubt it is the Pure storm

http://i52.tinypic.com/2r763av.gif

lidoazndiabloboi
02-28-2011, 08:31 PM
it looks like a Pure storm to me
those look like woofer grommets at the throat

Fee
02-28-2011, 08:34 PM
Gimelstob just posted a reply on his twitter that he thinks its a painted Babolat.

Sanford
02-28-2011, 08:54 PM
Whatever it is, its probably a denser string pattern that what he played with before. I noticed from the picture that the grommets on the throat are of four pairs (or 8 holes). Could it be prestige 98 or the dunlop aerogel 95?

Pocky
02-28-2011, 09:25 PM
Why would they have a blacked out Pure Storm when he already used it before. It has to be a prototype or there's no point in a blank PJ

Lsmkenpo
02-28-2011, 09:59 PM
Why would they have a blacked out Pure Storm when he already used it before. It has to be a prototype or there's no point in a blank PJ

Probably because Babolat is not paying him to endorse it, therefore they blacked it out. He's not going to give them a free endorsement.

kevvycore
02-28-2011, 10:24 PM
Whatever it is, its probably a denser string pattern that what he played with before. I noticed from the picture that the grommets on the throat are of four pairs (or 8 holes). Could it be prestige 98 or the dunlop aerogel 95?

wtf mate? haha na but idk why you pick those to random racquets to be used by pete. hes used three racquets his whole pro career. its def a blacked out pure storm. its def sponsorship issues and dont want him seen using pure storm on espn.
cant be kps 88 no PWS

SystemicAnomaly
02-28-2011, 10:48 PM
Last pics of Sampras playing with a non pj racquet:

Babolat Pure Storm.

When I saw Pete playing an exo match again Gael Monfils on Feb 7th at the SAP Open it appeared that he was using a Babolat of some sort -- yellow and white, if I recall correctly.

ericsson
02-28-2011, 11:01 PM
From the pics it is most defenitely a pure storm tour...

Ronaldo
03-01-2011, 12:12 AM
Pure Pistol Pete

snoflewis
03-01-2011, 12:48 AM
yeah it's definitely either a pure storm or pure storm tour. the bumperguard pattern, the throat grommet piece (the mains start at the top), it's all from the pure storm. not to mention, that the head shape is square looking , just like the storms. it looks like a denser pattern because storms are 16x20.

junk
03-01-2011, 01:09 AM
if you count strings, it's 16x20 which is a pure storm tour pattern. most likely it's a blacked out babolat pst

http://sports.yahoo.com/tennis/photo?slug=449a2f677e0d35c92cde658203fb461e-getty-108940827cc092_bnp_paribas_#photoViewer=urn%3Anews ml%3Asports.yahoo%2Cap%3A20050301%3Aten%2Cphoto%2C ap-3a88fb4fbbea4bb081fd02592c0629ed%3A1

origmarm
03-01-2011, 03:31 AM
Probably because Babolat is not paying him to endorse it, therefore they blacked it out. He's not going to give them a free endorsement.

This. Storm Tour blacked out I reckon. I think this time (per P1 twitter) they were done by Nate so probably just didn't want to black them out himself earlier on.

retlod
03-01-2011, 04:10 AM
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/bd/fullj.2f7431e8b8b704af5579984d73bc1ceb/2f7431e8b8b704af5579984d73bc1ceb-getty-108940827cc047_bnp_paribas_.jpg

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/2e/fullj.12d23346c60b0cca896449d7c08c6055/12d23346c60b0cca896449d7c08c6055-getty-108940827cc076_bnp_paribas_.jpg

To heck with the racquet. What kind of shoes are those?

VGP
03-01-2011, 04:16 AM
When I saw Pete playing an exo match again Gael Monfils on Feb 7th at the SAP Open it appeared that he was using a Babolat of some sort -- yellow and white, if I recall correctly.

Nope.

http://www.samprasfanz.com/gallery/2006/albums/2011_San_Jose/sap_open_07.jpg

http://www.samprasfanz.com/gallery/2006/albums/2011_San_Jose/sap_open_19.jpg

http://www.samprasfanz.com/gallery/2006/albums/2011_San_Jose/sap_open_09.jpg

http://www.samprasfanz.com/gallery/2006/albums/2011_San_Jose/sap_open_02.jpg

Probably because Babolat is not paying him to endorse it, therefore they blacked it out. He's not going to give them a free endorsement.

The exo at MSG was a high-profile televised event. A lot of exposure for what type of gear was used. If there isn't a set contract with Sampras, it would be a huge benefit for Babolat without the potential financial return for Sampras. The other matches he's played, exos and senior tour weren't widely televised. People just know by pics circulating on the internet.

jelichek
03-01-2011, 04:36 AM
Vapor 3. First colorway out. White with black and a little green thrown in.

BrooklynNY
03-01-2011, 05:51 AM
Gimelstob replied to me on twitter saying its a painted Babolat.

Power Player
03-01-2011, 07:18 AM
The legend of the Pure Storm Tour GT grows even bigger with the almighty Sampras endorsement.

kiteboard
03-01-2011, 07:25 AM
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Babolat_Pure_Storm_Tour_GT/descpageRCBAB-BPSTR.html

This look rounder, and doesn't look as oval.

Power Player
03-01-2011, 07:34 AM
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Babolat_Pure_Storm_Tour_GT/descpageRCBAB-BPSTR.html

This look rounder, and doesn't look as oval.

Cool, but I am pretty sure it is the PSTGT as are many in this thread. The new pstgt PJ makes the racquet look rounder and less oval, and this issue has been dissected already.

madmanfool
03-01-2011, 08:32 AM
http://static2.hln.be/static/FOTO/pe/4/11/8/album_large_4080368.jpg

Looks like Nate Ferguson did some work to it..

BrooklynNY
03-01-2011, 08:55 AM
Also, I actually play with the Pure Storm GT, I have to think that Sampras does not use an 11oz racket. He is most definitetly using the more light-head,heavier Tour version of the racket.

I think a few posters mentioned this.

VGP
03-01-2011, 09:06 AM
Judging by his past history and from a post on tennis.com quoting Nate Ferguson, Sampras still leads up his frames to almost 14 ounces.

SystemicAnomaly
03-01-2011, 11:32 AM
When I saw Pete playing an exo match again Gael Monfils on Feb 7th at the SAP Open it appeared that he was using a Babolat of some sort -- yellow and white, if I recall correctly.

Nope.

http://www.samprasfanz.com/gallery/2006/albums/2011_San_Jose/sap_open_07.jpg

...

It seems that I correct about it being a Babolat but wrong about the colors (probably recalling the color scheme of some other player that I saw that week at the SAP). Thnx for those pix -- seems to confirm that the racquet he's been using is the Babo Pure Storm (Tour).

FedererBestTennis
03-01-2011, 11:57 AM
I was so confused when I first saw the pictures! :)

The Baseline
03-01-2011, 12:12 PM
what square inch is the racquet he is using??? IS it the 98 or the 95

tennisnoob3
03-01-2011, 12:16 PM
what square inch is the racquet he is using??? IS it the 98 or the 95

tour is a 98

Devilito
03-01-2011, 12:23 PM
I wish I could buy blacked out racquets from the factory instead of the gaudy paintjobs with stupid logos. Heck don’t even paint it. Leave the naked graphite.

Ronaldo
03-01-2011, 12:40 PM
I wish I could buy blacked out racquets from the factory instead of the gaudy paintjobs with stupid logos. Heck don’t even paint it. Leave the naked graphite.

Remember MegaAge? Forgetnekkidgraphite

Gemini
03-01-2011, 12:47 PM
To heck with the racquet. What kind of shoes are those?

Like someone said, early generation Vapors.

Say Chi Sin Lo
03-01-2011, 01:35 PM
The legend of the Pure Storm Tour GT grows even bigger with the almighty Sampras endorsement.

What legend? :confused:

roundiesee
03-01-2011, 04:06 PM
I wish I could buy blacked out racquets from the factory instead of the gaudy paintjobs with stupid logos. Heck don’t even paint it. Leave the naked graphite.

How True! Don't we all wish... sigh....... :(

The Baseline
03-01-2011, 05:41 PM
What legend? :confused:

Fernando Gonzalez made those Pure Storms relevant.

Carolina Racquet
03-02-2011, 10:18 PM
Wasn't there talk that Wilson was going to develop something for Sampras to use this year? If so, then perhaps the black PJ means they contracted?

Time will tell, but I believe there's a contract that prohibits him from using another non-PJ frame.

big ted
03-03-2011, 12:15 AM
since he has a signature racquet with wilson im sure hes not allowed to use another frame esp in a highly publicized television event such as this. the SAP open exhibition was not televised so he probably didnt have a problem using the other racquet..

Datacipher
03-03-2011, 01:53 AM
Fernando Gonzalez made those Pure Storms relevant.

LOL. Good one :-)

The Baseline
03-03-2011, 12:55 PM
Wasn't there talk that Wilson was going to develop something for Sampras to use this year? If so, then perhaps the black PJ means they contracted?

Time will tell, but I believe there's a contract that prohibits him from using another non-PJ frame.

I hope so. I want to see Sampras staying with Wilson. Sampras and Federer were icons for Wilson tennis.

GS
03-03-2011, 01:30 PM
Fernando Gonzalez made those Pure Storms relevant.

I wish Babolat kept making Gonzo's Pure Control racquet. It was the only Babolat stick that I really liked.

tennisnoob3
03-03-2011, 01:30 PM
I hope so. I want to see Sampras staying with Wilson. Sampras and Federer were icons for Wilson tennis.

were??? lol

The Baseline
03-03-2011, 01:56 PM
were??? lol

still is, still will be. federer has trumped sampras's popularity

Power Player
03-03-2011, 06:47 PM
I wish Babolat kept making Gonzo's Pure Control racquet. It was the only Babolat stick that I really liked.

The Pure Storm Tour GT IS basically the Pure Control remade. That is the beauty of it.

Say Chi Sin Lo
03-03-2011, 10:32 PM
LOL. Good one :-)

I know right, Gonzo's apeface really makes want to buy a babolat.

Power Player
03-04-2011, 04:55 AM
I know right, Gonzo's apeface really makes want to buy a babolat.

Sounds like you may be a Yonex user. lol.

Say Chi Sin Lo
03-04-2011, 11:20 AM
Sounds like you may be a Yonex user. lol.

Nope! Never had a Yonex in my life.

Ronaldo
03-04-2011, 12:37 PM
Sounds like you may be a Yonex user. lol.

Is this an insult?

Power Player
03-04-2011, 12:37 PM
Is this an insult?

It's not just an insult, it is a full on challenge for international war.

Datacipher
03-04-2011, 03:05 PM
I know right, Gonzo's apeface really makes want to buy a babolat.

LOL. Well I love FG....I'm sure I'm one of his longest-term fans...been following the guy since his challenger days, but....he's not exactly a legend....

...and unlike a Sampras, Federer, Becker, Agassi, Mcenroe etc....people in future generations aren't going to be thinking....."who can forget Fernando Gonzalez with his pure storm....." ;-)

Ronaldo
03-04-2011, 05:40 PM
Who can forget Fernando Gonzalez with his Forehand!

The Baseline
03-04-2011, 05:48 PM
Who can forget Fernando Gonzalez with his Forehand!

No one. Gonzalez has the biggest forehand in the history of the game. The aggressiveness of Gonzalez game is legendary and scary at the same time. When you talk about "dictating" gonzalez is the player to look at...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6pNFhkZykY&feature=related

Ronaldo
03-04-2011, 06:26 PM
No one. Gonzalez has the biggest forehand in the history of the game. The aggressiveness of Gonzalez game is legendary and scary at the same time. When you talk about "dictating" gonzalez is the player to look at...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6pNFhkZykY&feature=related

Babolat could create a commercial for the Pure Storm just using the sound of Gonzo strking his forehand. Pure Thunder

film1
03-04-2011, 08:34 PM
Sure looks like a babolat pure storm
I have a feeling Fed will change as well.

Datacipher
03-05-2011, 12:21 AM
No one. Gonzalez has the biggest forehand in the history of the game. The aggressiveness of Gonzalez game is legendary and scary at the same time. When you talk about "dictating" gonzalez is the player to look at...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6pNFhkZykY&feature=related

LOL! You kids crack me up!

Yes....also "legendary" is Gonzalez unforced errors, and completely awful shot selection....but not to worry...ALL of it will be very quickly forgotten. Again, I love the kid, but in the end, the only thing that really lasts is tennis accomplishments of substance....

PS. Gonzo doesn't have the biggest forehand in the history of the game, but he probably does on average go for the most!

The Baseline
03-05-2011, 05:42 AM
LOL! You kids crack me up!

Yes....also "legendary" is Gonzalez unforced errors, and completely awful shot selection....but not to worry...ALL of it will be very quickly forgotten. Again, I love the kid, but in the end, the only thing that really lasts is tennis accomplishments of substance....

PS. Gonzo doesn't have the biggest forehand in the history of the game, but he probably does on average go for the most!

Wrong. I would argue that Gonzalez forehand is held by almost everyone as being the gold standard for pace and aggressiveness. No one hits the forehand with that kind of intensity, that ive ever seen. Everyone fears the Gonzalez forehand.

Say Chi Sin Lo
03-05-2011, 01:11 PM
Wrong. I would argue that Gonzalez forehand is held by almost everyone as being the gold standard for pace and aggressiveness. No one hits the forehand with that kind of intensity, that ive ever seen. Everyone fears the Gonzalez forehand.

:shock: :mrgreen: :lol:

Rock Strongo
03-05-2011, 01:15 PM
The Swedish guy who just made a comeback and also posesses a huge serve has a forehand that would match and at times even beat Gonzo's.

Datacipher
03-05-2011, 01:29 PM
The Swedish guy who just made a comeback and also posesses a huge serve has a forehand that would match and at times even beat Gonzo's.

Well Gonzalez himself once stated that Flipper, Soderling, and Safin could hit harder...but hey....one isn't going to change fanboys mind...

Azzurri
03-05-2011, 03:19 PM
No one. Gonzalez has the biggest forehand in the history of the game. The aggressiveness of Gonzalez game is legendary and scary at the same time. When you talk about "dictating" gonzalez is the player to look at...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6pNFhkZykY&feature=related

Jimmy Arias has/had the biggest FH in the game. this is common knowledge.

Pioneer
03-06-2011, 08:18 AM
Yes, Flipper was the gold standard for the tailor-made-for-the-modern-game blend of power and control on the serve and forehand.

Safin was the gold standard for hitting as hard as possible for as long as possible with a decent amount of control.

Gonzalez is neither.

laboule
03-06-2011, 08:55 AM
I think Federer, Soderling and Del Potro's Forehand is, or was, at par with Gonzalez.

The Baseline
03-06-2011, 11:50 AM
:shock: :mrgreen: :lol:

Every touring pro fears Gonzalez forehand. He wins 100 percent of his points off of that thing.

The Baseline
03-06-2011, 11:53 AM
Jimmy Arias has/had the biggest FH in the game. this is common knowledge.

Wrong. Its not common knowledge to me. If you watch Gonzalez game, he bases his play around the forehand. Gonzalez will often bait opponents into a forehand winner. Anything other than Gonzalez having the biggest forehand is hearsay.

Say Chi Sin Lo
03-06-2011, 02:15 PM
Every touring pro fears Gonzalez forehand. He wins 100 percent of his points off of that thing.

You're being sarcastic right? That's like saying Sampras won 100% off of his serves.

The Baseline
03-06-2011, 02:16 PM
You're being sarcastic right? That's like saying Sampras won 100% off of his serves.

It's common knowledge...............

Say Chi Sin Lo
03-06-2011, 02:24 PM
It's common knowledge...............

It's idiots' knowledge.

The Baseline
03-06-2011, 02:42 PM
It's idiots' knowledge.

Fernando hits the ball of the forehand with more pace than anyone. Sure, he makes errors, but consistent pace is consistent pace. Gonzalez has perfected PACE

Mick
03-06-2011, 02:48 PM
Sure looks like a babolat pure storm
I have a feeling Fed will change as well.

if that ever happened, wow, the current fed racquet would go on sale at significant discount right away :shock:

Say Chi Sin Lo
03-06-2011, 02:52 PM
Fernando hits the ball of the forehand with more pace than anyone. Sure, he makes errors, but consistent pace is consistent pace. Gonzalez has perfected PACE

That's not necessary a good thing.

Mick
03-06-2011, 02:57 PM
That's not necessary a good thing.

that's what rod laver said when he analyzed how james blake play in the james blake - donald young 1st round us open match some years ago.

The Baseline
03-06-2011, 03:18 PM
That's not necessary a good thing.

Pace can be everything! But controlled pace is what wins ATP tour level matches. Gonzalez has done just that.

Say Chi Sin Lo
03-06-2011, 03:37 PM
Pace can be everything! But controlled pace is what wins ATP tour level matches. Gonzalez has done just that.

I like how although your sn is "The Baseline", you know nothing about the baseline game.

If every shot is a bee-line towards the baseline, the opponent with the slightest amount of intelligence will adjust and take advantage of this "consistent" pace. It's one thing if the pace is so tremendous that there's nothing the opponent can do about it, then fine, be predictable all you want.

But it's all bad if you're predictable and your shots don't do much off the ground.

The Baseline
03-06-2011, 03:55 PM
I like how although your sn is "The Baseline", you know nothing about the baseline game.

If every shot is a bee-line towards the baseline, the opponent with the slightest amount of intelligence will adjust and take advantage of this "consistent" pace. It's one thing if the pace is so tremendous that there's nothing the opponent can do about it, then fine, be predictable all you want.

But it's all bad if you're predictable and your shots don't do much off the ground.

I know everything about the baseline game, or the modern game. It truly is a power struggle when opponents blast from the baseline paint. An opponent also will try to counteract by simply hitting it harder and harder from the paint. Such energy is expended from the opponent and the other opponent will use pace when there is an opening on a corner. Its just soo sweet to see kamikazes such as Gonzalez go for broke. Gonzalez is a hero to the avid tennis fan, unleashing huge forehands while indicating that he has no regard for losing position on the baseline.

LPShanet
03-06-2011, 10:58 PM
Fernando Gonzalez made those Pure Storms relevant.

Fernando never used an actual Pure Storm of any kind.

LPShanet
03-06-2011, 10:59 PM
The Pure Storm Tour GT IS basically the Pure Control remade. That is the beauty of it.

Different layup and flex pattern, but the mold is the same.

LPShanet
03-06-2011, 11:04 PM
Oh, and for the record, the racquet Pete used in the photos is a blacked out PSTGT. (Surprised during the sleuthing that no one has mentioned the Woofers, which make it impossible to be anything but a Babolat.) It's blacked out because presumably he thinks he can get someone to pay him for his endorsement. He sometimes greeked out other gear at various times in the past when he wasn't being paid, including shoes as well as racquets.

SFrazeur
03-06-2011, 11:52 PM
Oh, and for the record, the racquet Pete used in the photos is a blacked out PSTGT. (Surprised during the sleuthing that no one has mentioned the Woofers, which make it impossible to be anything but a Babolat.) It's blacked out because presumably he thinks he can get someone to pay him for his endorsement. He sometimes greeked out other gear at various times in the past when he wasn't being paid, including shoes as well as racquets.

They just seemed so damn obvious. Guess it was just us then.

-SF

The Baseline
03-07-2011, 03:09 PM
Fernando never used an actual Pure Storm of any kind.

What did he use?/

LPShanet
03-08-2011, 02:46 AM
What did he use?/

Pure Control +. Still does.

AbsolutTennis
03-08-2011, 06:49 AM
When I saw Pete playing an exo match again Gael Monfils on Feb 7th at the SAP Open it appeared that he was using a Babolat of some sort -- yellow and white, if I recall correctly.

Correct! Same one Alex Corretja plays with. Sampras and Babolat were trying to work some kinda deal as they were trying to find a niche were they could use Sampras to sell sticks. Don't know what's happening now.

LPShanet
03-08-2011, 10:52 AM
Correct! Same one Alex Corretja plays with. Sampras and Babolat were trying to work some kinda deal as they were trying to find a niche were they could use Sampras to sell sticks. Don't know what's happening now.

Nope, not correct. Pete used a Pure Storm Tour at the SAP exo. It wasn't even blacked out. His OUTFIT was black and yellow, not the racquet.

lidoazndiabloboi
03-08-2011, 11:09 AM
it looks like a Pure storm to me
those look like woofer grommets at the throat

Oh, and for the record, the racquet Pete used in the photos is a blacked out PSTGT. (Surprised during the sleuthing that no one has mentioned the Woofers, which make it impossible to be anything but a Babolat.) It's blacked out because presumably he thinks he can get someone to pay him for his endorsement. He sometimes greeked out other gear at various times in the past when he wasn't being paid, including shoes as well as racquets.

i mentioned it earlier in the thread, but i guess not many people noticed.

LPShanet
03-08-2011, 08:48 PM
i mentioned it earlier in the thread, but i guess not many people noticed.

Sure enough...my bad.

Agassi-Fan
03-09-2011, 06:41 PM
Dont know if anyone mention this already but there was just a great article on tennis.com with an interview with Sampras after his Garden match with Agassi.

Sampras said he is working with "Wilson" about developing him a new raquet and that is why he is using a blacked out frame. He was very specific about saying he is with "Wilson" and that they are developing him a new frame. He never mention babalot at all and didnt speak about how he has been using their frame for the past few months.

http://www.tennischannel.com/news/NewsDetails.aspx?newsid=8756

The Baseline
03-09-2011, 07:12 PM
Dont know if anyone mention this already but there was just a great article on tennis.com with an interview with Sampras after his Garden match with Agassi.

Sampras said he is working with "Wilson" about developing him a new raquet and that is why he is using a blacked out frame. He was very specific about saying he is with "Wilson" and that they are developing him a new frame. He never mention babalot at all and didnt speak about how he has been using their frame for the past few months.

http://www.tennischannel.com/news/NewsDetails.aspx?newsid=8756

i just breathed a sigh of relief. Pete Federer and Wilson are 4 life. Theres no mistake about the fact that Pete and Roger belong with Wilson. What is weird is seeing Pete with a bigger frame and possibly poly on the stringbed. Pete is getting older and the newer technology will help his game a lot. Great for Pete and great for Wilson.

LPShanet
03-10-2011, 02:03 AM
Dont know if anyone mention this already but there was just a great article on tennis.com with an interview with Sampras after his Garden match with Agassi.

Sampras said he is working with "Wilson" about developing him a new raquet and that is why he is using a blacked out frame. He was very specific about saying he is with "Wilson" and that they are developing him a new frame. He never mention babalot at all and didnt speak about how he has been using their frame for the past few months.

http://www.tennischannel.com/news/NewsDetails.aspx?newsid=8756

I think that is best read as he is working with Wilson on developing a new contract (presumably to pay him for using a frame they design to be as much like the PSTGT as possible) and that is why he is using a blacked out frame. :)

stingstang
03-10-2011, 02:33 AM
Could this mean.... box beam wilson 95? :)

Power Player
03-10-2011, 05:52 AM
Sampras said he is working with "Wilson" about developing him a new raquet and that is why he is using a blacked out frame. He was very specific about saying he is with "Wilson" and that they are developing him a new frame. He never mention babalot at all and didnt speak about how he has been using their frame for the past few months.

http://www.tennischannel.com/news/NewsDetails.aspx?newsid=8756


The new Wilson frame is rumored to be called the Unclean Sun Team fitted with Treble grommets ™.

superjd
03-10-2011, 08:00 AM
hmm.. new wilson racquet in the making... blx on sale all over the place... wonder what's going on... :twisted:

The Baseline
03-10-2011, 12:54 PM
hmm.. new wilson racquet in the making... blx on sale all over the place... wonder what's going on... :twisted:

it might be a [K]onicidence

Azzurri
03-12-2011, 07:59 PM
Wrong. Its not common knowledge to me. If you watch Gonzalez game, he bases his play around the forehand. Gonzalez will often bait opponents into a forehand winner. Anything other than Gonzalez having the biggest forehand is hearsay.

then you never saw Arias. Gonzo has a great FH(powerful), but Delpo is bigger so you are wrong.

Cup8489
03-12-2011, 08:14 PM
then you never saw Arias. Gonzo has a great FH(powerful), but Delpo is bigger so you are wrong.

don't bother reasoning with him; he's a ******* of the lowest degree, as far as he's concerned no one else even plays tennis. only nadal plays tennis, everyone else plays mini tennis according to him.

and yes, Arias had an awesome forehand; i wish i could see him on the champion's tour more often, but sadly our tennis channel subscription was cancelled; i dont like it!

The Baseline
03-13-2011, 01:30 PM
don't bother reasoning with him; he's a ******* of the lowest degree, as far as he's concerned no one else even plays tennis. only nadal plays tennis, everyone else plays mini tennis according to him.

and yes, Arias had an awesome forehand; i wish i could see him on the champion's tour more often, but sadly our tennis channel subscription was cancelled; i dont like it!

you know im right. Gonzalez's forehand has more charisma than anyones in the history of tennis. No need to hide from the reality of the situation.

Azzurri
03-13-2011, 03:00 PM
don't bother reasoning with him; he's a ******* of the lowest degree, as far as he's concerned no one else even plays tennis. only nadal plays tennis, everyone else plays mini tennis according to him.

and yes, Arias had an awesome forehand; i wish i could see him on the champion's tour more often, but sadly our tennis channel subscription was cancelled; i dont like it!

lol..many of these ***** here.

why was your TC cancelled? I pay $5 for a sports pack (Comcast), well worth it.:)

baseline_monster
03-13-2011, 03:55 PM
Sure there will be another Sampras signature frame from Wilson. Looking at how many people purchased KPS88's, a frame that maybe 2% of people can actually use and not be kidding them selfs its right for them. Knowing Wilson they will probs release there version of the storm tour and pj his frames, Wilson PJ'd enough prestiges over the years this should be easy

Devilito
03-13-2011, 04:48 PM
Sure there will be another Sampras signature frame from Wilson. Looking at how many people purchased KPS88's, a frame that maybe 2% of people can actually use and not be kidding them selfs its right for them. Knowing Wilson they will probs release there version of the storm tour and pj his frames, Wilson PJ'd enough prestiges over the years this should be easy

and watch Babolat sue Wilson into the stone age. Legally you can PJ your own sticks but not another company's. If Wilson wanted a PS they’ll make one. Its not rocket science to back engineer tennis racquets. There’s only so much going on there.

VGP
03-14-2011, 08:05 PM
With all the talk about the frame, there's relatively less discussion on his current string setup. I'm sure it was mentioned that he used a full Babolat RPM Blast stringbed.....does anyone know the tension?

I'd be surprised if he's still going at 75 pounds.....

leonidas1982
03-14-2011, 08:06 PM
With all the talk about the frame, there's relatively less discussion on his current string setup. I'm sure it was mentioned that he used a full Babolat RPM Blast stringbed.....does anyone know the tension?

I'd be surprised if he's still going at 75 pounds.....

Still at 75. Nothing about his setup has changed.

VGP
03-14-2011, 08:14 PM
Hmm.... thanks.

leonidas1982
03-14-2011, 08:16 PM
Hmm.... thanks.

No prob. It's interesting that the weight, balance, and tension have not changed.

VGP
03-14-2011, 08:20 PM
Well, they say "change one thing at a time."

First, he bought new frames. Then he went to the gut/poly hybrid. Then he had a frame designed for him. Then he went to the Babolat frame. Now the full poly stringbed.

That's a lot of changes in themselves. Keeping the same weight, balance, and tension seems to be his relative comfort zone.

DNShade
03-14-2011, 08:24 PM
I can find out all the info on his current stringing weight etc. as I get my sticks strung from the same guy who strings Pete's sticks...And it's true - as I posted months and months ago about Pete working with Wilson and playing with a bunch of Wilson prototypes - so something is probably coming down the pipeline soon.

marosmith
03-14-2011, 08:31 PM
Still at 75. Nothing about his setup has changed.

75 would be a change because that would be relative stringbed stiffness of about 100 full natural gut. Do you have proof he strings a full bed of RPM blast at 75 pounds?

VGP
03-14-2011, 08:36 PM
I bet it's a psychological thing for Sampras. I'm sure his stringbed stiffness is way higher with the RPM Blast at 75 pounds compared with natural gut at that tension, but in his mind, all that's changed is the strings and he gets more spin. Balls fly less on him, he can work the backhand more and he beat his opponent. If he's winning, then it's working.

leonidas1982
03-14-2011, 08:42 PM
Nothing said on strings, but there is this:

I just saw some clips of Pete Sampras and Andre Agassi at an exhibition and it appears Pete has switched to a Babolat racquet that looks like a version of the Pure Storm. I remember hearing that he enjoyed Roddick's Babolat but didn't know he made a permanent switch. Can you confirm and how does it compare to his Wilson Pro Staff?—Eshan

Sure enough, Eshan, Pistol Pete is packing the Pure Storm Tour these days, according to his personal racquet customizer and stringer, Nate Ferguson. “It’s almost his old weight and balance of a decade ago, with stationary weight of about 390 grams [13.8 ounces],” Ferguson reports. He’s also now using the hot Babolat RPM Blast polyester string that Rafael Nadal introduced at the Australian Open this year. Looks like Sampras has joined the Babolat and poly bandwagon. He used just one racquet type, the Wilson Pro Staff, and played with gut during his career.

http://tennisworld.typepad.com/the_pro_shop/2010/09/mailbag-pistol-petes-new-pure-storm.html

Devilito
03-14-2011, 09:05 PM
I bet it's a psychological thing for Sampras. I'm sure his stringbed stiffness is way higher with the RPM Blast at 75 pounds compared with natural gut at that tension, but in his mind, all that's changed is the strings and he gets more spin. Balls fly less on him, he can work the backhand more and he beat his opponent. If he's winning, then it's working.

Please do me a favor before you make that assertion ever again. Take a babolat pure storm and string it up with RPM blast at 75 lbs then go hit with it for a couple hours. Medical bills are on you. Thanks

Cup8489
03-14-2011, 09:23 PM
you know im right. Gonzalez's forehand has more charisma than anyones in the history of tennis. No need to hide from the reality of the situation.

No, that's your opinion, and I disagree, so there's no 'reality' to hide from.. just your own perceptions that I find to be wrong. I think, as a shot in itself, Del Potro's forehand is far more fearful to see, and I'm sure that when many of the players on tour saw him unleash it in such a big way against Nadal and Federer two summers ago, they were afraid. I mean the guy was routinely hitting running forehands at 100 mph +.. and they were so flat they literally skidded when they hit the pavement.. Federer couldn't do anything about it really. and Definitely not your precious Nadal.

lol..many of these ***** here.

why was your TC cancelled? I pay $5 for a sports pack (Comcast), well worth it.:)

My parents feel that the extra 60 bucks a year is worth cancelling it; I dont make enough money right now to support my tennis habit let alone watch it on TV for more money; too tied up in school right now.


Please do me a favor before you make that assertion ever again. Take a babolat pure storm and string it up with RPM blast at 75 lbs then go hit with it for a couple hours. Medical bills are on you. Thanks


Most of us mere mortals would be troubled by that; but remember this: sampras strung with full gut in a PS85, at 74 lbs. Going from 85 to 98, I wouldn't be too terribly surprised if the stringbed stiffness wasn't too different in the end, and it's not like the PST is a terribly stiff frame anyways..

Plus, Sampras being the immortal Pistol that he is, would likely have done plenty of prepping for using such high tensions, and if it really bothered him he wouldn't be using it.

Devilito
03-14-2011, 09:35 PM
Most of us mere mortals would be troubled by that; but remember this: sampras strung with full gut in a PS85, at 74 lbs. Going from 85 to 98, I wouldn't be too terribly surprised if the stringbed stiffness wasn't too different in the end, and it's not like the PST is a terribly stiff frame anyways..

Plus, Sampras being the immortal Pistol that he is, would likely have done plenty of prepping for using such high tensions, and if it really bothered him he wouldn't be using it.

Where are people getting that Petros is stringing RPM at 75 anyway? Stringing gut in the 70s is not even close to being the same thing

VGP
03-15-2011, 04:05 AM
Please do me a favor before you make that assertion ever again. Take a babolat pure storm and string it up with RPM blast at 75 lbs then go hit with it for a couple hours. Medical bills are on you. Thanks

Where are people getting that Petros is stringing RPM at 75 anyway? Stringing gut in the 70s is not even close to being the same thing

I never said that I'd be doing that. Sampras' choices are up to him, his arm, and his match results. I was just asking if anyone knew his current setup.

Cup8489 is probably right in saying that stringing a larger headed racket with a stiff string at the same tension could compensate somewhat for the increased power should he string his new frames with all gut, or a gut/poly hybrid.

As for it not being the same thing.....isn't that the point. If he wanted the same thing, he could still get it. Sampras' racket and string setup has always been an anomaly even among pros. McEnroe would often go on about an amateur's arm would fall off if he/she used Sampras' frames. Probably even moreso now.

Azzurri
03-15-2011, 09:40 AM
Sure there will be another Sampras signature frame from Wilson. Looking at how many people purchased KPS88's, a frame that maybe 2% of people can actually use and not be kidding them selfs its right for them. Knowing Wilson they will probs release there version of the storm tour and pj his frames, Wilson PJ'd enough prestiges over the years this should be easy

whic Wilson racquet was a PJ of the prestige?

baseline_monster
03-15-2011, 11:07 AM
whic Wilson racquet was a PJ of the prestige?

I mean they put there paint ie the six ones on prestiges for ex head players. Will be easy enough to do it for Pistol

baseline_monster
03-15-2011, 11:11 AM
and watch Babolat sue Wilson into the stone age. Legally you can PJ your own sticks but not another company's. If Wilson wanted a PS they’ll make one. Its not rocket science to back engineer tennis racquets. There’s only so much going on there.

I dont know if thats 100% fact. If Pete purchased those rackets him self, he could paint them black or have them repainted, its his property. Ivo Karlovic was doing it with his old FXP instinct and it still must go on.

Azzurri
03-16-2011, 08:36 AM
I mean they put there paint ie the six ones on prestiges for ex head players. Will be easy enough to do it for Pistol

interesting. do you know of any player that had Wislon PJ their Head Prestige?

Pioneer
03-16-2011, 10:20 AM
K Blade Tour is the Wilson PJ of a Prestige

CDestroyer
03-16-2011, 10:31 AM
Could this mean.... box beam wilson 95? :)

That would be my guess or box beam 98, 100. 18mm beam hopefully.

baseline_monster
03-16-2011, 12:40 PM
interesting. do you know of any player that had Wislon PJ their Head Prestige?

Welll when P H Matthiew signed he used the k blade pj on his prestiges?

Bobby Jr
03-16-2011, 01:24 PM
and watch Babolat sue Wilson into the stone age. Legally you can PJ your own sticks but not another company's. If Wilson wanted a PS they’ll make one. Its not rocket science to back engineer tennis racquets. There’s only so much going on there.
Do you mean you can't buy a Babloat frame and paint it black? Or like another brand's frame?

If you own the frame you can do whatever you like with it - I.e. If they bought some Babolat frames and painted them like BLX frames but didn't sell them Babolat can't do squat legally in terms of passing-off legislation which is the primary area here. In this situation consumers wouldn't be buying Sampras' frame so it's a redundant point (unless Wilson copied Babolat design features too closely for the consumer frame, in which case a design/patent copying issue may arise separately).

Passing-off situation are dependent on there being damage to goodwill through misrepresentation. If a normal, reasonable person was influenced in their buying decision in buying a fake Babolat (made by Wilson) then there damage could be established - but if it was to buy a Wilson based on a Babolat design then it'd be hard to argue any damage occurred (simply because they are not misrepresenting the frame as a Babloat which is the key in passing-off, pretending to be someone else's product - and Babolat can't sue Wilson for 'pretending' to be Wilson).

However - this scenario will likely never arise simple because, if it did, Babolat could rightly do a pile of fair play marketing saying "what frame does Pete really use?" which Wilson would avoid like crazy because it'd make them look like eggs and/or incompetent at making racquets.

baseline_monster
03-16-2011, 01:46 PM
Do you mean you can't buy a Babloat frame and paint it black? Or like another brand's frame?

If you own the frame you can do whatever you like with it - I.e. If they bought some Babolat frames and painted them like BLX frames but didn't sell them Babolat can't do squat legally in terms of passing-off legislation which is the primary area here. In this situation consumers wouldn't be buying Sampras' frame so it's a redundant point (unless Wilson copied Babolat design features too closely for the consumer frame, in which case a design/patent copying issue may arise separately).

Passing-off situation are dependent on there being damage to goodwill through misrepresentation. If a normal, reasonable person was influenced in their buying decision in buying a fake Babolat (made by Wilson) then there damage could be established - but if it was to buy a Wilson based on a Babolat design then it'd be hard to argue any damage occurred (simply because they are not misrepresenting the frame as a Babloat which is the key in passing-off, pretending to be someone else's product - and Babolat can't sue Wilson for 'pretending' to be Wilson).

However - this scenario will likely never arise simple because, if it did, Babolat could rightly do a pile of fair play marketing saying "what frame does Pete really use?" which Wilson would avoid like crazy because it'd make them look like eggs and/or incompetent at making racquets.

Like this, you backed up what I was saying lol.