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Say Chi Sin Lo
03-08-2011, 11:30 PM
The following is a hybrid of Gaucho Classic Gut (mains) with Tourna Big Hitter Blue Rough (crosses)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/saychisinlo/Tennis/DSC02962.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/saychisinlo/Tennis/DSC02961.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/saychisinlo/Tennis/DSC02960.jpg

There are some imperfection on the gut but I can't see how it'll impact playability/durability. I ran my finger through one string and I couldn't feel any gauge inconsistency. There is a slight coating, some sort of wax. I did pre-stretch it and the gut had a "jello-like" bounce to it. This sounds kind of right considering it's mostly collagen. I'm not going to lie, the "jello-like" bounce got me pretty excited :). As far as I'm concerned, if the gut can survive the stringing machine, I'll settle for some imperfection given the cost.

Overall, Gaucho survived the stringing machine without much problem. First time stringing gut and I didn't do anything out of the ordinary to "protect" the gut. You can't see it with my camera, but the BHBR did eat through some of the gut, but it's barely noticeable by touch. I don't see this as a major problem because when I hybrid-ed BHBR with RIP, BHBR ate through RIP in the same fashion.

I strung this for my friend so I don't think I can comment on how it plays anytime soon. Soon I will fullbed on my PC600, just see how great gut is. My fulltime setup will be Gaucho (mains) and Signum Pro Hyperion (crosses).

If the owner of this racquet is reading this, I'm not stringing your BHBR again, they hurt even more than RIP.

SteveI
03-09-2011, 01:47 AM
The following is a hybrid of Global Classic Gut (mains) with Tourna Big Hitter Blue Rough (crosses)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/saychisinlo/Tennis/DSC02962.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/saychisinlo/Tennis/DSC02961.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/saychisinlo/Tennis/DSC02960.jpg

There are some imperfection on the gut but I can't see how it'll impact playability/durability. I ran my finger through one string and I couldn't feel any gauge inconsistency. There is a slight coating, some sort of wax. I did pre-stretch it and the gut had a "jello-like" bounce to it. This sounds kind of right considering it's mostly collagen. I'm not going to lie, the "jello-like" bounce got me pretty excited :). As far as I'm concerned, if the gut can survive the stringing machine, I'll settle for some imperfection given the cost.

Overall, Global survived the stringing machine without much problem. First time stringing gut and I didn't do anything out of the ordinary to "protect" the gut. You can't see it with my camera, but the BHBR did eat through some of the gut, but it's barely noticeable by touch. I don't see this as a major problem because when I hybrid-ed BHBR with RIP, BHBR ate through RIP in the same fashion.

I strung this for my friend so I don't think I can comment on how it plays anytime soon. Soon I will fullbed on my PC600, just see how great gut is. My fulltime setup will be Global (mains) and Signum Pro Hyperion (crosses).

If the owner of this racquet is reading this, I'm not stringing your BHBR again, they hurt even more than RIP.

Nice pics and post. What machine did you use and what tension did you use?

Say Chi Sin Lo
03-09-2011, 09:22 AM
Edited the title, this was GAUCHO, not Global. Sorry, my mistake.

Again this was GAUCHO Classic 16 with Tourna BHBR

I used Eagnas Flex 940, the racquet was strung at 53m/52c.

On my own racquets, I do 55m/57c.

FedererBestTennis
03-09-2011, 10:51 AM
You miswove. Haha jk. Nice, are you playing with it, or is someone else?

Say Chi Sin Lo
03-09-2011, 12:10 PM
You miswove. Haha jk. Nice, are you playing with it, or is someone else?

Someone else's, not a fan of the LM prestige or BHBR

J_aces
03-09-2011, 12:31 PM
Someone else's, not a fan of the LM prestige or BHBR

Is stringing cheap gut like global and gaucho more prone to breakage on the mains or crosses?

Tennis100
03-09-2011, 12:32 PM
ARE YOU KIDDING ME. I just did this same setup less than a week ago. niceeeee.

J_aces
03-09-2011, 12:53 PM
ARE YOU KIDDING ME. I just did this same setup less than a week ago. niceeeee.

How was it?

Say Chi Sin Lo
03-09-2011, 01:07 PM
Is stringing cheap gut like global and gaucho more prone to breakage on the mains or crosses?

Supposedly, but I didn't have problem with the mains. I'll string a fullbed Gaucho today and I'll let you know if I have problems.

Tennis100
03-09-2011, 01:27 PM
hard to string. but plays nicely, great spin. a lot of power.

downs_chris
03-09-2011, 01:50 PM
the new gaucho seems higher quality than the older stuff...they finally went to the air-tight packaging...and you can't beat the price...

anyone try their new "spider silk" (aka, their black colored gut)??

schwuller
03-09-2011, 01:58 PM
the new gaucho seems higher quality than the older stuff...they finally went to the air-tight packaging...and you can't beat the price...

anyone try their new "spider silk" (aka, their black colored gut)??

Where do you buy Gaucho? I am a poly player but I want to give the new spider silk version a try. Thank you.

EDIT: it's gaucho strings dot com

Say Chi Sin Lo
03-09-2011, 03:24 PM
So I strung up my racquet with a fullbed of this stuff. 55lbs (mains), 57 (crosses).

*** Recommended maximum tension on this stuff is 55lbs ***

Upon opening this pack, I ran my finger through when I pre-stretched the strings, and there was more imperfection in this pack than the previous pack. Notably, this pack kinked like a mofo! (this will come back to haunt me when I do the crosses).

Stringing the mains was uneventful, though I did hear some creaking sound coming from the strings. Maybe the recommended maximum tension at 55lbs was correct. Knowing I plan to weave my crosses at 57lbs, with some common sense, I put together a safety precaution should the strings snap on me at 57lbs. Observe and note the smile. That's right, not only am I prolific ball shanker, I am also well versed in Chinese and Cancer Biology.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/saychisinlo/Tennis/DSC02965.jpg

Weaving the crosses gave me all kinds of problems. The strings pretty much did everything it could possibly do except for snapping. It kinked left and right. It was prone to fraying as well.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/saychisinlo/Tennis/DSC02966.jpg

There was a kink right next to the grommet, I didn't catch it and I pulled through it. Unknown to me, I had stripped most of it. This is what it looks like now.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/saychisinlo/Tennis/DSC02970.jpg

I'm almost certain that on one of my epic shanks, that stripped string will snap.

Here are pictures for the rest of string bed. Hopefully, they won't break prematurely...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/saychisinlo/Tennis/DSC02967.jpg

Say Chi Sin Lo
03-09-2011, 03:52 PM
I was just stringing my second racquet, intended to be a hybrid of Gaucho mains (55lbs) and Signum Pro Hyperion (57lbs).

By the time I got to the 4th throat, it snapped...

SteveI
03-09-2011, 05:00 PM
I was just stringing my second racquet, intended to be a hybrid of Gaucho mains (55lbs) and Signum Pro Hyperion (57lbs).

By the time I got to the 4th throat, it snapped...


Sorry to hear that. I know some of these lower end nat guts can be quite hit and miss to be sure. I realy hate it when I spend time stringing and the string fails before I even get the frame off the stringer. Great pics again!!!

Steve

J_aces
03-09-2011, 05:37 PM
Do they let you get a refund?

downs_chris
03-09-2011, 07:54 PM
you have to be delicate with this string...really make sure you don't kink it...i've done at least 20 string jobs with this stuff (both the old and new formula) with no pre-mature breaking...

Say Chi Sin Lo
03-09-2011, 09:13 PM
you have to be delicate with this string...really make sure you don't kink it

That must be the reason, because the ill-fated fullbed snapped before I even had a chance to try it out. And it was kink galore when I was stringing it.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/saychisinlo/Tennis/DSC02973.jpg

Out of the 5 half sets I strung up, two of them snapped on me. One during stringing, one after stringing. Both snapped at 55lbs, their recommended limit.

Though I have to say, when they do survive, they play REALLY well. Definitely better than any synthetic multifilament I have tried. I played a few hours with a hybrid of this stuff with Hyperion and it was :).

tennisinoc
03-09-2011, 09:33 PM
Global Gut is junk!
The last 2 sets I had, only 1 set made it off the stringer and of that 1 set, it broke in my bag after only one day of hitting. It's dry and has horrible tension limits. If you string at 30-40 lbs. maybe it will work for you.
Otherwise, save your $$$.

Say Chi Sin Lo
03-09-2011, 09:55 PM
This is Gaucho actually, I made the spelling error and have since "corrected" it, but TW isn't changing my title... So these are Gaucho.

I can't compare them to other natural guts, because I haven't played with any other natural guts. But like I was saying, if they survive the stringing machine, they were amazing!

Say Chi Sin Lo
03-11-2011, 10:40 PM
Well... ~ 3-4 hours on the court and my hybrid of Classic (m) with Hyperion (c) is done. :-?:neutral:

This comes back down to the imperfections left on the strings. Because it broke right at one of the imperfections. Whereas the rest of the string bed, namely the sweetspot, looked fine. I have no doubts that the Classic will last as long as any other 16g gut, but with the imperfection near the sweetspot, I got 3-4hours...

I think I'll try out the Spider Silk next, they're having a sale right now.

While they were on the racquet, they played very nicely.

J_aces
03-11-2011, 10:43 PM
Well... ~ 3-4 hours on the court and my hybrid of Classic (m) with Hyperion (c) is done. :-?:neutral:

This comes back down to the imperfections left on the strings. Because it broke right at one of the imperfections. Whereas the rest of the string bed, namely the sweetspot, looked fine. I have no doubts that the Classic will last as long as any other 16g gut, but with the imperfection near the sweetspot, I got 3-4hours...

I think I'll try out the Spider Silk next, they're having a sell right now.

While they were on the racquet, they played very nicely.

Did you mean sale? What's the sale price?

Say Chi Sin Lo
03-11-2011, 10:47 PM
Haha yeah, SALE.

Check on their website.

Say Chi Sin Lo
03-13-2011, 12:07 PM
I emailed Gaucho and they have since offered me a refund for the defective sets. Didn't need much convincing to get my money back.