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Power Player
03-14-2011, 10:58 AM
The Youtek Prestige Mid is apparently string sensitive. So keeping that in mind I am wondering who uses it with full poly. Here are the requirements I have :

17 gauge or less - the racquet pattern is real tight, so thin should be better.

Good tension maintenance - i want to get 8-12 hours of play if possible. The Prestige is one of the most consistant stringbeds I have hit with, and the closed pattern should help as well.

Feels good in the racquet - I'd like something that retains the plush feel of the stick.

Inexpensive if possible - I prefer 12 bucks or less if it all possible.

My style of play - semi western, 2 handed BH, do not care about spin factor since I can make any string spin. I like to string a little higher than lower to keep my serves in, but I think I can get away with 55 or under with the Prestige.

So far I am curious about Big Ace Micro. Seems like it could make sense in the Prestige. I am not sure how long it lasts though as a full job.

The other wildcard may be the Genesis Hexonic 18 gauge. I am definitley interested in that as well.

JT_2eighty
03-14-2011, 11:08 AM
BAM or SP Hyperion 1.18. I've used those with great results in dense mid (BAM), or mid-plus (SPH), frames. SPH has better tension maintenance though, while BAM plays outstanding for the first few hours, and is almost half the cost. IIRC, I cut it out around 6-8 hours; it does drop tension a bit, but 6 hours for an $8 string if you string your own is decent. SPH though is a very nice, quality "feel" poly, which compliments an 18x20 superbly and holds tension with the best of them; perhaps the best I've tried.

Both are definitely plush when it comes to poly, while the Prestige Mid (although my experience is with the Prestige Tour 600, I've only demoed the YTs) is great with poly at 50-53 lbs.

dadozen
03-14-2011, 11:16 AM
Thin, with good feel, and good tension stability?

Signum Pro Hyperion 1.18

Fits all the above.;)

But you can also try BAM, PLII 1.15, MSV Focus Hex, there are a lot of thin polys.

BAM and PLII 1.15 are pretty similar, IMO. Perform really well at the beginning and die quickly.

MSV Focus Hex 1.10 was stiff for me. But A lot of people like it.

Power Player
03-14-2011, 11:24 AM
Awesome..hyperion it is..thanks!! I will also try the Hexonic 18 since I loved how plush it was in the Tfights. It also was insanely easy to string.

Should be a nice A/B comparison.

bfactor61
03-14-2011, 11:32 AM
i play with the ytpp and have full pl2 17L

Power Player
03-14-2011, 11:34 AM
i play with the ytpp and have full pl2 17L

How do you like it? YTPP is a more open pattern though, so does it eat them pretty fast?

bfactor61
03-14-2011, 12:04 PM
well i have not played with the 17L yet, but i will this week. i played with the 17 and loved it. they lasted along time

BigT
03-14-2011, 12:17 PM
Def. go thin. 1.18 or thinner. And string lower.

Keifers
03-14-2011, 12:19 PM
FWIW, PP, a teammate has his PC strung with Alu Power 125 @ 60 -- tremendous pop and bite.

BagelMe
03-14-2011, 02:47 PM
Technifibre Black Code 17. Its 13 bucks, but if that is an issue you can hybrid it with Gosen micro 17, which is 3.75 (?). I use a prestige MP and the feel, control, and spin are really great. Its a bit low powered, but maybe thats because i strung at 58 lbs....Anyway, you should research more on this string if you're interested.

Fed Kennedy
03-14-2011, 02:53 PM
I use hyperion in all my frames now, I just pick the gauge depending on how dense the pattern is. Its the best poly out right now. You do not have to go super low tension to get pop and feel out of this string.

kslick
03-14-2011, 03:13 PM
Awesome..hyperion it is..thanks!! I will also try the Hexonic 18 since I loved how plush it was in the Tfights. It also was insanely easy to string.

Should be a nice A/B comparison.

PP do you mind giving a write up on Hexonic? if you already did let me know and I'll search a little harder for it.

Thanks

Power Player
03-14-2011, 03:24 PM
Here ya go, this was on the thicker gauge.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=351347&highlight=hexonic

kslick
03-14-2011, 03:26 PM
Thanks...somehow I missed it.

aimr75
03-14-2011, 03:56 PM
Ive used Genesis Spin X in a microgel prestige mid and that felt great.. great spin

kiteboard
03-14-2011, 03:57 PM
Blue gear ultra/hexablade.

Ptrac
03-14-2011, 06:51 PM
use pro line II 1.25. GG

rofl_copter3
03-14-2011, 08:22 PM
Signum pro tornado 17 or 18

or

Weiss cannon turbo twist 17L

WitheringDemise
03-14-2011, 09:38 PM
Please post your results and which string you choose, along with tension. I'd like to find out some other options for strings at the moment. Using a Youtek/Microgel Prestige Mid(I have both, kinda hating the hollow feel of the youtek).

BagelMe
03-15-2011, 08:16 AM
Please post your results and which string you choose, along with tension. I'd like to find out some other options for strings at the moment. Using a Youtek/Microgel Prestige Mid(I have both, kinda hating the hollow feel of the youtek).

The YT prestige mid has a nice feel.

The only company that makes hollow feeling rackets is Babolat.

Big Tigger
03-15-2011, 09:49 AM
Ive used Genesis Spin X in a microgel prestige mid and that felt great.. great spin

I second this (YT Prest MId, though). Prefer the 1,23 red at 58. And I have tried many setups with diff strings.

BT

Power Player
03-15-2011, 02:55 PM
And you are using typhoon as well? I ask because I am probably starting with that since I have an extra set. I should have Hexonic 18 coming next since I receive it tomorrow. I will try the typhoon at a little lower tension and see how it goes.

Big Tigger
03-16-2011, 10:47 AM
And you are using typhoon as well? I ask because I am probably starting with that since I have an extra set. I should have Hexonic 18 coming next since I receive it tomorrow. I will try the typhoon at a little lower tension and see how it goes.

Sorry. I need to update my sig. I will do it right now.
Well I used to play Typhoon wich is fine, but Spin X brought me A LOT of control.
If you will use Typhoon I would go higher instead of lower (tension), for it is really powerful.

BT

WitheringDemise
03-16-2011, 07:11 PM
The YT prestige mid has a nice feel.

The only company that makes hollow feeling rackets is Babolat.

well it feels pretty tinny to me. I don't know. Maybe its because I'm use to the solidness of a Microgel that the shifting stiffnesses(Yes I do believe d3o works) that's messing with me.

Power Player
03-18-2011, 08:27 PM
I will keep this thread going as my mini prestige diary.

Love the mids because I can use super thin poly strings in them. The Prestige responds very well so far to Hexonic 18 gauge. I believe the new youtek is made with full poly setups in mind, more than prior models.

I logged about an hour and a half and got a far better hitting experience than with the demo stick I had before (Bab Excel 16 55#s- awful, horrible setup for Prestige). The Hexonic is in at 55#s and will probably drop to 50 or so. I want to see how long it goes for and how the playability is on my next outing. So far I experienced far more control, weight on shots and spin. Basically, the racquet played liked I expected it to when I bought it.

Strings to come :

Hyperion 18 gauge and Mosquite Bite.

I also plan to buy another prestige and hybrid it with Black5edge and Gosen Micro.

bad_call
03-18-2011, 08:52 PM
^ B5E and OGSM should be good combo for that racquet.

ryushen21
03-18-2011, 10:15 PM
Tornado is amazing in the Mid. It overtook BC for me.

OldButGame
03-19-2011, 02:55 PM
I will keep this thread going as my mini prestige diary.

Love the mids because I can use super thin poly strings in them. The Prestige responds very well so far to Hexonic 18 gauge. I believe the new youtek is made with full poly setups in mind, more than prior models.

I logged about an hour and a half and got a far better hitting experience than with the demo stick I had before (Bab Excel 16 55#s- awful, horrible setup for Prestige). The Hexonic is in at 55#s and will probably drop to 50 or so. I want to see how long it goes for and how the playability is on my next outing. So far I experienced far more control, weight on shots and spin. Basically, the racquet played liked I expected it to when I bought it.

Strings to come :

Hyperion 18 gauge and Mosquite Bite.

I also plan to buy another prestige and hybrid it with Black5edge and Gosen Micro.
I'm also planning on trying out Hyperion and Mosquito Bite. Both are reputed to be good strings.
(also looking at Black Magic) :)

Power Player
03-19-2011, 08:29 PM
The hexonic is real good. It dropped 6 pounds of tension today per racquetune. I am hoping it holds steady at that or it may not be the string for me in this stick. I made about 6 straight UEs before getting control of it and then I was fine. I do remember the thicker gauge doing the same thing before it settled in, so we shall see how it goes tomorrow.

Power Player
03-20-2011, 07:56 PM
Ok, tension is about the same today..hit for another 2 hours. I feel like the playability may be going a little, but it is a tough call..may have just been me being a little worn out. I just remember wondering about my strings more than once and then I would a perfect slice or forehand and forget about it. So far the Hex is a nice 7.5/10 due to price and insanely plush feel on the sweetspot.

AYuille
03-20-2011, 09:11 PM
Big Hitter Silver in the mid 50's range is pretty solid in the prestige if you are looking for something thats not so expensive. Ive only used the 16 gauge but the 17 might be a bit more responsive.

Power Player
03-21-2011, 08:13 PM
I am trying to stay at 18 gauge, but I may try a 17. I know the Hexonic is gone. It just played very inconsistent tonight. I hit around 7 hours of play and while the string is not moving yet, it was real erratic. So I guess that is why the Hexonic is cheap..it will lose tension and then settle for another hour or 2 of play and then the playability is gone. It is better in the thicker gauge, but I don't think the thin gauge version is going to make the cut for me. Playability is gone way too fast. I am hoping this is not the case with the M Bite and Hyperion as well.

I just cut out the Genesis. Have another stick coming, so I am going to make this racquet my backup. Keeping that in mind, I will go with the Black5edge/Gosen hybrid at 56/58 next.

dedpete
03-22-2011, 02:48 AM
I use Pro Hurricane tour 16 on my youtek prestige mid and it is the best strings I have tried for my prestige

Power Player
03-22-2011, 08:08 AM
16 gauge on the prestige mid? that must suck to string up. Pro Hurricane is real nice but loses tension way too fast for me.

ryushen21
03-22-2011, 10:36 AM
*cough*tornado*cough*

In all seriousness, we are very much in the same boat right now. I've been pondering string choice for my mids especially seeing as they are string sensitive. Tornado was just amazing and I am trying to fight the urge to try other strings. But with a TW order looming, it may be too difficult to say no.

Keep us posted.

Preston
03-22-2011, 10:43 AM
PP,

Another cheap option that might be worth trying is Solinco Outlast. I finally strung it up(in a hybrid). It's not as thin as you seem to want, but it does feel fairly soft without being mushy. Pop is decent, and the best part, IT'S RED! It would look very clean in a Prestige. I'm not sure about tension maint yet, but I am impressed with the string.

I can't say it's my new favorite or anything, but it's definitly a decent poly. I'm still liking SPPP 17L more.

Power Player
03-22-2011, 01:06 PM
Good call on Outlast. That is real thin..1.20, so real close to the 18 gauge. Apparently the playability is really good as well.

I am not as into the Tornado because I can use some heavy topspin and I have heard it is not very durable. I want to try and get 8-12 hours of playability from these newer copolys.

Really excited to try the hyperion since most people get 10-12 hours out of it it seems. Also read the same experience with Outlast. Good stuff!

nalvarado
03-22-2011, 05:32 PM
Any thoughts on how a cheap poly(polylon ice 17) would fair in my Prestige Tour Mid? I want to try it but do not want to give up that amazing prestige feel.

JT_2eighty
03-23-2011, 06:38 AM
Playability is gone way too fast. I am hoping this is not the case with the M Bite and Hyperion as well.

I just cut out the Genesis. Have another stick coming, so I am going to make this racquet my backup. Keeping that in mind, I will go with the Black5edge/Gosen hybrid at 56/58 next.

These all sound good, curious how you find them in the Mid.

Hyperion IME does last a long time. I've only tried MB as a cross, and it seemed to hold up well in that role. It is a very lively poly though, but if that's what you seek, should be great in the Mid too. Curious how those two compare.

bad_call
03-23-2011, 06:41 AM
PP - 56/58 is high for B5E combo. probably play like a stiff board at that tension.

Ross K
03-23-2011, 06:59 AM
PP, the string I liked best in the Prestige mid was Tornado, strung low 50's.

ryushen21
03-23-2011, 07:45 AM
Good call on Outlast. That is real thin..1.20, so real close to the 18 gauge. Apparently the playability is really good as well.

I am not as into the Tornado because I can use some heavy topspin and I have heard it is not very durable. I want to try and get 8-12 hours of playability from these newer copolys.

Really excited to try the hyperion since most people get 10-12 hours out of it it seems. Also read the same experience with Outlast. Good stuff!

Was not my experience with Tornado, granted I was using 17g. I got about 10 hours of really good play from it but even when it started dying it was still pretty good.

SlapShot
03-23-2011, 08:18 PM
I still love Big Banger Ace in my mids. I string a lot tighter than most though (I string them at 60#, and the tension usually drops 4-5 lbs before I hit with it, and then it's stable there for a while).

I tried a lot of strings, but always struggled with consistency when I moved from the Ace to anything else.

jefferson9
03-24-2011, 08:35 PM
it might not fit your budget but i use a full bed of rpm blast on my prestige mp, and i love it i string around 52 though

Preston
03-25-2011, 09:46 AM
Good call on Outlast. That is real thin..1.20, so real close to the 18 gauge. Apparently the playability is really good as well.

I am not as into the Tornado because I can use some heavy topspin and I have heard it is not very durable. I want to try and get 8-12 hours of playability from these newer copolys.

Really excited to try the hyperion since most people get 10-12 hours out of it it seems. Also read the same experience with Outlast. Good stuff!

Update on the Outlast: This Copoly is impressing me more and more. I'm at about the 10hr mark and it just doesn't seem to go dead and also hasn't gained that major trampoline effect. The crack of the string is quite loud, always enjoyable right! Yes, I'm attempting to encourage you to hit it. Price point is good, and I'm very intetested to hear how it plays in that small headed Prestige.

I also hit the 17g Hyperion a while back in my Rebel. Real good poly too IMO. I don't remember it having the same pop as Outlast, but I did hit in a closed pattern string bed. It's just priced a little high for me.

Good luck! Let us know!

Power Player
03-25-2011, 10:46 AM
Preston, I actually have some Outlast coming, thanks for the suggestion. What tension do you string at? I am realizing that I need to string lower with the prestige mid..like 52 or less if I go full poly. I have been reading about poly stringing techniques and they are saying that unless you are on the pro level where you can restring every 3-6 hours of play, you should string the poly at no higher then 52.

I will try Outlast..hyperion, Mosquite Bite and if none do it for me, the tornado. The Outlast really sounds awesome..the pricepoint is kind of crazy though..makes me a little nervous since the Hexonic is cheap but loses playability pretty quick.

Preston
03-25-2011, 02:59 PM
PP,

I strung it up at my normal tension of 55-57.

What are the facts behind not stringing polys above 52? I've tried tensions all over the place going as low as 40lbs, but anything below 50 was just unplayable for me.

Also, where did you pick up Mosquito Bite? This string sounds interesting to try.

Power Player
03-25-2011, 11:08 PM
This link http://ggtennis.wordpress.com/2011/03/17/the-definitive-guide-to-stringing-polys-and-co-polys/#comments

It basically explains that poly is meant to be strung between 30-50.The reason some pros string higher is because they can switch out string jobs a lot more. But when you do that the playability is lost. You can also buy mosquite bite from his site.

Its a little easier for me to do because my stick is a tight pattern and small head.

OldButGame
03-26-2011, 12:08 PM
This link http://ggtennis.wordpress.com/2011/03/17/the-definitive-guide-to-stringing-polys-and-co-polys/#comments

It basically explains that poly is meant to be strung between 30-50.The reason some pros string higher is because they can switch out string jobs a lot more. But when you do that the playability is lost. You can also buy mosquite bite from his site.

Its a little easier for me to do because my stick is a tight pattern and small head.
Interesting site PP !!!! Tx !!!....kinda validates even more my movement and affinity for 52 & lower tensions,...(btw,...let us know when You try that Hyperion and Mos Bite,...I'm really interested,....I may have some very soon too,...) :)

Rjtennis
03-26-2011, 12:41 PM
I would push for you to try Kirshbaum Spiky Shark. It have played with a lot of different poly's and Spiky Shark is my favorite by far. I use a full poly set up and love the pop and feel I get from the string. Also, at $12/pack or $150/reel it's not that expensive

Devilito
03-26-2011, 12:52 PM
This link http://ggtennis.wordpress.com/2011/03/17/the-definitive-guide-to-stringing-polys-and-co-polys/#comments

It basically explains that poly is meant to be strung between 30-50.The reason some pros string higher is because they can switch out string jobs a lot more. But when you do that the playability is lost. You can also buy mosquite bite from his site.

Its a little easier for me to do because my stick is a tight pattern and small head.

with that tight pattern and small headsize i wouldn’t touch full poly at anything over 40lbs. Pros string poly/gut (much less stiff than a full bed) at low-mid 40s while i see amateurs string FULL at 60lbs and complain about arm issues. It boggles the mind. Not talking about you specifically PP but try a full bed at 40 and go from there. I wouldn’t be surprised if 35 would even work better. I string my KPS 88 at 40lbs with Black Code and wouldn't consider going higher. And the KPS88 is more powerful and has a more open pattern. And i dont consider myself a soft hitter either

Power Player
03-26-2011, 01:02 PM
Very good points. I'm a wimp, so I'll try 45 and drop from there. Still will probably feel a lot better then mid 50s.

Devilito
03-26-2011, 01:17 PM
Very good points. I'm a wimp, so I'll try 45 and drop from there. Still will probably feel a lot better then mid 50s.

try 40 right off trust me :wink:

GoodSamaritan
03-26-2011, 01:32 PM
I'm really tempted to go low tension (I usually don't go under 52) on my PC600.. Pretty worried balls will fly though. My next stringjob will be somewhere among the 40s, any suggestions?

bad_call
03-26-2011, 02:07 PM
Very good points. I'm a wimp, so I'll try 45 and drop from there. Still will probably feel a lot better then mid 50s.

.45 - yeah that's more like it...

bad_call
03-26-2011, 02:14 PM
I'm really tempted to go low tension (I usually don't go under 52) on my PC600.. Pretty worried balls will fly though. My next stringjob will be somewhere among the 40s, any suggestions?

suggest low powered string...probably not BH.

Played with BHSR in a match today and I underestimated how powerful it was as well. They're both a bit more powerful to what I'm used to and should've strung 3 pounds tighter on both but great string nonetheless. I agree that spin is pretty similar on both though. Biggest difference to me is feel which isn't too different at all. If these strings last long enough I think BHSR will be my new string. If not, then I'm back to WeissCannon

GoodSamaritan
03-26-2011, 02:21 PM
Ya, definitely not Big Hitter. I'm really enjoying BHSR right now though at 52/50. I'm going to be doing PolyStar Strike 1.25 which is pretty low-powered and thick in a prestige mid so low tension wouldn't be too unreasonable

Power Player
03-27-2011, 06:41 PM
I got a Prestige with black Magic in it that is really blowing me away. I have logged about 7 hour with it and the pocketing is incredible. I would imagine the tension is in the 40s (i did not string it up). I have had black magic before and was never that into it, but either I am a worse stringer then I thought or it just is an awesome match with the prestige.

The mosquito bite plays well in my other prestige, but does not have the pocketing. It is currently at 45#s.

bad_call
03-27-2011, 06:49 PM
PP - have found that a string can work well in one racquet and not so much in another (different model) racquet. reads like you're getting the pocketing that lower tension can provide.

Power Player
03-27-2011, 07:03 PM
Yes definitley with the Black Magic, but not with the Mosquito Bite. that is ok though. Next up is the Solinco Outlast, once I break or kill the BM.

Preston
03-28-2011, 01:04 PM
Thanks for the link! The spring analagy makes sense to me from a physics standpoint. Combine that with other articles that have been popping up about stringing poly at lower tensions and we might have something new here.

I tried a hybrid at 40lbs and it was aweful, but I have yet to try full poly at lower tensions.

Glad to hear you like Blackcode, now can you convince them to drop the price?:evil:

Power Player
03-28-2011, 01:36 PM
Black Magic, not Black Code. I think you will like the price of the BM ;)

xsmasher
03-29-2011, 03:08 AM
MSV focus hex 1.10 @ 45lbs.

allrounder
03-29-2011, 01:03 PM
I have LM prestige mid strung with Lux BigBanger Ace 18 in mains and Gosen OG micro generic 17 in crosses @ 49lb Main & 51 lb crosses.
This hybrid seems to work on many HEAD racquets.
I have the same setup on i.Radical MP also , feels great.

No comments on how it will feel with full poly as I have not tried it.

Gtech
03-29-2011, 01:17 PM
with that tight pattern and small headsize i wouldn’t touch full poly at anything over 40lbs. Pros string poly/gut (much less stiff than a full bed) at low-mid 40s while i see amateurs string FULL at 60lbs and complain about arm issues. It boggles the mind. Not talking about you specifically PP but try a full bed at 40 and go from there. I wouldn’t be surprised if 35 would even work better. I string my KPS 88 at 40lbs with Black Code and wouldn't consider going higher. And the KPS88 is more powerful and has a more open pattern. And i dont consider myself a soft hitter either

You know you can just educate yourself instead of following some random internet post with wrong info. Go to the Bigbanger.com site (under the pro tour tab) and download their very detailled and specific, player by player, main and cross tension document, the last one is 2010 US Open. You will see that with poly most players still string from 49-57, the large majority is mid fifties, plenty of pros still 60 and above. Pros in the low forties, I think I only see 5 out of 214 listed.

Get real data, make your own decisions using your own brain.

Preston
03-31-2011, 08:34 AM
Well PP, I strung up some SPPP at 48lbs in my ti80. I must say it played much better than expected. Soft for full poly, great spin, but the ball trajectory had a lot more arc than normal. Most shots still went in, but I wasn't ready for the increase in net clearance.

So, not to highjack your thread, have you hit Outlast yet? I am going to try Blackmagic again too.