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APG
03-16-2011, 06:49 AM
Has anyone played with a full bed of Black Gut?
Any perceivable differences from the natural colored gut and/ or the new vs old formulation?
Thanks for you input?

Rabbit
03-16-2011, 06:52 AM
I've not seen Klip's new Legend Black mentioned. Any feedback on it as well?

sidzej
03-16-2011, 07:33 AM
I haven't played with full bed yet, but in a hybrid with WCSS I can't really feel any difference compared to previous version of VS. The only real difference I can see so far is durability. There is no fraying after 11 hours of play. The black colour started to go off in the centre of the stringbed after ca. 8 hours of play...

scotus
03-16-2011, 10:04 AM
I haven't played with full bed yet, but in a hybrid with WCSS I can't really feel any difference compared to previous version of VS. The only real difference I can see so far is durability. There is no fraying after 11 hours of play. The black colour started to go off in the centre of the stringbed after ca. 8 hours of play...

So which is more durable, black or white?

utmiken
03-16-2011, 11:13 AM
I've played with a a full bed of the the Black VS for 1 week now. I cannot tell any difference from the natural color regarding playability, feels exactly the same to me. As far as durability goes, it seems to be on par with with the non-BT7 formulation.

Peter_G
03-16-2011, 11:35 AM
I haven't played with full bed yet, but in a hybrid with WCSS I can't really feel any difference compared to previous version of VS. The only real difference I can see so far is durability. There is no fraying after 11 hours of play. The black colour started to go off in the centre of the stringbed after ca. 8 hours of play...

Agree, not nearly as much fraying so far on my frames. Feels pretty much the same at VS Natural. Looks great in a Black Code hybrid setup :)

APG
03-16-2011, 11:54 AM
A related question that I am confused about. I use 17 gauge vs team which I understand provides more spin potential. However is there any discernible difference between 17& 16 when you have elbow issues?
Is one advantageous over the other.
Thanks in advance.

GPB
03-16-2011, 12:52 PM
A related question that I am confused about. I use 17 gauge vs team which I understand provides more spin potential. However is there any discernible difference between 17& 16 when you have elbow issues?
Is one advantageous over the other.
Thanks in advance.

I don't think there will be a difference between 16 and 17 in the realm of comfort.

parasailing
03-16-2011, 01:52 PM
The 16 and 17 variant differ mainly in feel, playability, and durability with 17 being the ideal string if money is not an issue.

You probably won't be able to tell the difference in comfort as they are both arm friendly. I am waiting for TW to carry the VS Team in BT7 technology so I can do a playtest against the current version.

sidzej
03-16-2011, 02:10 PM
So which is more durable, black or white?
This is not a good question. The question should be: Which is more durable, the new BT7 gut or the previous generation of gut? The black color is just a color on top of a natural gut. It comes off after couple of hours of hitting anyway...For me, the new line of gut (BT7 technology) seems to be more durable. Mind you I am testing only the first set. I have also purchased Tonic with BT7 (both versions Ball feel and Longevity), but haven't tried it yet.

Parasailing: TW Europe is already selling the full line up of BT7 including VS Team 17.

parasailing
03-16-2011, 07:10 PM
Parasailing: TW Europe is already selling the full line up of BT7 including VS Team 17.

Yeah I noticed that but TW US is not :(. Glad the BT7 looks to be more durable. So you really do not notice any difference between the two? This is a good thing.

Boricua
03-17-2011, 04:35 AM
Yeah I noticed that but TW US is not :(. Glad the BT7 looks to be more durable. So you really do not notice any difference between the two? This is a good thing.

Any news on when TW USA will sell this black gut?:)

Boricua
03-17-2011, 04:37 AM
This is not a good question. The question should be: Which is more durable, the new BT7 gut or the previous generation of gut? The black color is just a color on top of a natural gut. It comes off after couple of hours of hitting anyway...For me, the new line of gut (BT7 technology) seems to be more durable. Mind you I am testing only the first set. I have also purchased Tonic with BT7 (both versions Ball feel and Longevity), but haven't tried it yet.

Parasailing: TW Europe is already selling the full line up of BT7 including VS Team 17.

Hi! What is this BT7 technology? Does it come in the 15 gauge?:)

Boricua
03-17-2011, 04:39 AM
The 16 and 17 variant differ mainly in feel, playability, and durability with 17 being the ideal string if money is not an issue.

You probably won't be able to tell the difference in comfort as they are both arm friendly. I am waiting for TW to carry the VS Team in BT7 technology so I can do a playtest against the current version.

Ive never used the 15 gauge. As a cross and main, how does it differ from the 16 and 17?:)

parasailing
03-17-2011, 10:55 AM
Ive never used the 15 gauge. As a cross and main, how does it differ from the 16 and 17?:)

I never tried the VS version in 15 but did in Tonic and I didn't particular like 15 gauge string. It lasted maybe a couple hours longer than VS 16 but again I had tonic which is not their top line string but I would assume it would play about the same.

If you don't break strings, I would go with VS Team because it plays the best especially for volleying.

genius24
03-17-2011, 06:11 PM
I don't think there will be a difference between 16 and 17 in the realm of comfort.

i agree here