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Boricua
03-23-2011, 10:53 AM
I dont know much about this subject but Im curious.

I think Sampras used a pretty heavy racket. I read Venus Williams uses a heavy racket.

Concerning light rackets, Radwanska I think uses a Pure Drive Light or Team and Zheng Yi (or Yi Zheng) uses a RDIS 300, both very light. In men, I havent checked.

Also, its hard to know because pros tend to customize (add lead, etc.).

Any information about this subject?

LeeD
03-23-2011, 10:57 AM
Some women pros use under 10oz., but not the big hitters.
Upper, probably some big strong guys, a Philipousis or Tsonga, Isner or Croat, Sampras, or DelPo, would use heavier than Fed's 12.5 oz.

Boricua
03-23-2011, 11:25 AM
Some women pros use under 10oz., but not the big hitters.
Upper, probably some big strong guys, a Philipousis or Tsonga, Isner or Croat, Sampras, or DelPo, would use heavier than Fed's 12.5 oz.

I wonder in DelPos wrist injury is an issue now when deciding over the weight to use.

LeeD
03-23-2011, 11:34 AM
Of course.
On the one hand, a heavier racket "plows thru" easier on hard shots.
On the other, a heavier racket stresses the wrist more on the loop takeback.
Consider....when you played baseball in high school, did you use the heaviest 36 oz bat or did you use the lightest 29? I stuck with 32's, choked up an inch, to get distance out of my swings. 8th grade, 4'8" and 75 lbs.

bluetrain4
03-23-2011, 11:55 AM
But, we can't base answers simply on what we see on TV since many players are using custom molds or stock frames with lead or paint jobs.

Does anyone have any insider info about who uses the actual lightest and heaviest frames, not just matching the model seen on TV to TW specs.

It's fairly common knowledge that a lot of male pros use rackets that are considerably heavier than nearly anything offered for commercial sale. I would be interested to know if any male pros actually use a light racket. And, if so, how "light."

Boricua
03-23-2011, 12:09 PM
Of course.
On the one hand, a heavier racket "plows thru" easier on hard shots.
On the other, a heavier racket stresses the wrist more on the loop takeback.
Consider....when you played baseball in high school, did you use the heaviest 36 oz bat or did you use the lightest 29? I stuck with 32's, choked up an inch, to get distance out of my swings. 8th grade, 4'8" and 75 lbs.

I agree on your theory related to the racket.

In terms of baseball, I played basketball in high school. Gave up baseball at 8 years old when I could not figure out high fly balls with my glasses on.:)

Moose Malloy
03-23-2011, 12:11 PM
Don Budge reportedly used a 16 ounce racquet.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=490

LeeD
03-23-2011, 03:48 PM
I gave up baseball during first day tryouts when RonBlair plunked me TWICE in the same at bat. I finally struck out, and the next day, was invited to track for longjump and 50 yard dash. Those upper arm bruises lasted for 3 weeks.

DAS2011
03-23-2011, 04:09 PM
Kimiko Date-Krumm uses a 385 gram racquet. Thats 13.58 ounces! I am guessing that is one of the heaviest on the WTA.

tennisnoob3
03-23-2011, 04:46 PM
Some women pros use under 10oz., but not the big hitters.
Upper, probably some big strong guys, a Philipousis or Tsonga, Isner or Croat, Sampras, or DelPo, would use heavier than Fed's 12.5 oz.

proof? doubt you have any. under 10 oz would get pushed around at pro level. under 10 oz strung is one of the lightest frames available to the public today, basically the next step up for kids

[d]ragon
03-23-2011, 04:50 PM
Gasquet's is 314g strung. Nalby's Yonex is somewherere around 370g I think

LeeD
03-23-2011, 06:17 PM
Look up DominicChibul's racket, then do a search under rackets of women pros....
There's one other who uses rackets in the mid 9's, not top 50.

The Baseline
03-23-2011, 06:55 PM
any men that use under 10 ounce frame???????

dirtballer
03-24-2011, 11:44 AM
The weight of a racket a pro is using is probably not the same as the weight of that racket if you bought it commercially off-the-shelf. The pro's racket is probably either leaded-up or a custom mold.

kevoT
03-24-2011, 11:58 AM
Fed's racquet is pretty heavy, or so I've heard...

tennisdad65
03-24-2011, 12:16 PM
any men that use under 10 ounce frame???????

are you serious? my 8 yr old son uses a 9.2 oz graphite frame. Hard to find anything lighter than that.

Torres
03-24-2011, 01:53 PM
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Torres
03-24-2011, 01:57 PM
Kimiko Date-Krumm uses a 385 gram racquet. Thats 13.58 ounces! I am guessing that is one of the heaviest on the WTA.

But have you seen how hideous her strokes are?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSAHU0yq56o

There's no way that anyone but the most elite athletes with world class technique are going to have a full swing with that.

Alex13
03-24-2011, 02:02 PM
any men that use under 10 ounce frame???????

Yes, what's his name, Francesca Schiavone uses one :twisted:

Raid
03-24-2011, 02:27 PM
Yes, what's his name, Francesca Schiavone uses one :twisted:

haha saw this one coming

li0scc0
03-24-2011, 02:28 PM
ragon;5515112']Gasquet's is 314g strung.

Really? I thought he used some form of the Liquidmetal Instinct Tour XL...which, even in stock form, is well into the 330g range.

kiteboard
03-24-2011, 05:13 PM
314g, 376g swing wt.

li0scc0
03-24-2011, 07:36 PM
314g, 376g swing wt.

Must be about, oh, 15 points head heavy? :)

Doubles
03-24-2011, 08:22 PM
Must be about, oh, 15 points head heavy? :)

No it head light, but it's 27.5 inches, so the extra half inch adds a lot to the swing weight...

basso
03-25-2011, 01:01 AM
Gasquet's is 361 gr with 381 sw
hier is the thread:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=368558

Fuzzball7
03-25-2011, 02:10 AM
What about Kimiko date krumm

dominikk1985
03-25-2011, 03:01 AM
proof? doubt you have any. under 10 oz would get pushed around at pro level. under 10 oz strung is one of the lightest frames available to the public today, basically the next step up for kids

10 oz is 280 grams. In these days 270 is about standard for (recreational) adult tennis rackets.

I know fischer had a racket weighing under 200 grams years ago (then the lightest racket ever). the head tiS6 weighs about 220.

today carbon technology is so good that manufactorers can easily produce very stiff rackets in the 260 grams range.

the problem for pros is just that such a racket will twist a ton if you hit slightly off center. also they are so strong that they can't swing any faster with a light one. so a bigger racket gives them more power.

li0scc0
03-25-2011, 04:21 AM
Gasquet's is 361 gr with 381 sw
hier is the thread:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=368558

Thanks, that sounds a LOT more reasonable

Doubles
03-25-2011, 08:08 AM
Thanks, that sounds a LOT more reasonable

That's old info. Greg Raven measured it recently and the lighter weight is his current set up...

Rainallday
03-25-2011, 12:32 PM
Dominika Cibulkova uses Dunlop Biomimetic 600 Lite weighs 10.01 oz.

Doubles
03-25-2011, 07:04 PM
Dominika Cibulkova uses Dunlop Biomimetic 600 Lite weighs 10.01 oz.

Supposedly she uses a paint job of a 500, unless she actually switched...

mctennis
03-26-2011, 09:03 AM
But have you seen how hideous her strokes are?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSAHU0yq56o

There's no way that anyone but the most elite athletes with world class technique are going to have a full swing with that.

You're right. Her strokes are pretty poor. She looks like a player that hasn't hit in years coming back out for the first time. Yikes!!

Tar Heel Tennis
03-26-2011, 05:17 PM
Some women pros use under 10oz., but not the big hitters.
Upper, probably some big strong guys, a Philipousis or Tsonga, Isner or Croat, Sampras, or DelPo, would use heavier than Fed's 12.5 oz.

Isner's racket is actually pretty light....at least the one he used in an exho last November that I picked up.

I thought it would be similar in weight to what I play (kps88 weighted to 390 grams), but not close.

Andres
03-26-2011, 05:40 PM
Sabatini used a 14 oz frame. That's the heaviest I've heard from a woman in a long time.

Boricua
03-30-2011, 06:56 AM
Don Budge reportedly used a 16 ounce racquet.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=490

What?!!! Was he into baseball?:)

Boricua
03-30-2011, 06:59 AM
Kimiko Date-Krumm uses a 385 gram racquet. Thats 13.58 ounces! I am guessing that is one of the heaviest on the WTA.

Wow, strong girl! She does not seem so strong physically but she certainly is!:)

Boricua
03-30-2011, 07:00 AM
ragon;5515112']Gasquet's is 314g strung. Nalby's Yonex is somewherere around 370g I think

What's that in ounces?:)

borg number one
03-30-2011, 07:03 AM
See info on Bjorn Borg's frames here:

http://www.80s-tennis.com/pages/borg-anecdote-jose.html

Bjorn Borg’s attention to details is best described in a few anecdotes. In June 1979, some rackets were shipped to a hotel where Bjorn Borg was staying in the USA. As soon as he had the rackets in his hands, Bjorn Borg realised that they were too heavy, weighing 418 grams instead of the prescribed 415gr. Panic spread to Donnay’s management and José got flying instructions for an on-site intervention. Suspecting humidity due to insufficient packaging and fully confident in the quality of his work, José recommended from his sanctuary office that the frames should go on a diet and be put on a radiator to get rid of the excess humidity. Lennart called the next day with the news that the diet had been a success.

The following year, José was called out to Wimbledon to provide his services. Bjorn was horrified by the feel of the grip in his hands. José realised that the Fairway grip had swollen, increasing the width by 1 mm and simply replaced the grips. Stricter quality requirements were later imposed on the UK grip provider.

One day, José and some of his Donnay colleagues were attending a tennis exhibition in Liège. All of a sudden, the crowd got struck by Bjorn Borg’s racket, which had exploded as a result of the combination between the power of the stroke and the heavy string tension. José’s colleagues all looked bewildered at him and they soon burst into laughter. Today, José still vividly remembers the following days and weeks of private jokes which followed.

Bjorn Borg’s ritual during the Wimbledon tournament best reflects the extreme care he took in preparing himself mentally and in ensuring his equipment was in the best condition (2). This meant that all the environmental parameters had to be reproduced exactly to obtain the ideal brain conditioning. For instance, Bjorn Borg would always set the air conditioning to 12 degrees or always go on a diet to make sure he did not weigh more than 73 kg. Two days before the tournament, Lennart would make sure Bjorn Borg received a two-hour massage sessionOn the day before the tournament, Bjorn Borg would turn into a musician and complete a two-to-three hour percussion exercise, setting his 50 rackets in front of him in very much the same way as a xylophone player would prepare for a concert. A racket in each hand, Bjorn Borg would then test the slightest variation in the strings’ notes. He would then methodically display the 50 rackets on the floor according to their notes. On every match day, he would pick up his usual six rackets. Sometimes, a highly strung gut would snap in the middle of the night as an unexpected echo to the earlier concert. However, these singing rackets could not wake such a relaxed tennis virtuoso.

José therefore started to customise Bjorn Borg’s rackets in 1975. Two series of 400 frames were produced annually according to Bjorn’s specifications of wood quality, weight (415gr), length and balance. These frames had to be reinforced by adding one additional ply of wood to cope with the extreme string tension of 28/35 kg. Out of the special issue, José would typically select the best 25 rackets which would then be stored for six months before delivery. Bjorn Borg realised that, like special Belgian beers, wood is a living material that delivers its best mechanical performance after a complete drying period.

José exercised the greatest care when he applied the English Fairway branded grip. José carefully selected the 1.7 mm leather grip width. Two grips were then applied side by side along a 4 5/8 handle up to 25 cm (1) This was a particularly painful exercise, as the leather had to be stretched tightly to provide Bjorn Borg with the ideal grip size. Over time, José’s index finger got deformed and a lump grew on the joint of one of his fingers.

Boricua
03-30-2011, 07:08 AM
The weight of a racket a pro is using is probably not the same as the weight of that racket if you bought it commercially off-the-shelf. The pro's racket is probably either leaded-up or a custom mold.

So why would a pro use a stock racket and then alter it? Why doesnt the company just make a racket for that pro and sell it commercially as given to the pro?:) Maybe there is no market for them?

I would think that the por would use a demo stick, put and add lead, and then the company would make that racket for him, but not add lead after making the final racket.


Maybe I could be wrong, just my uspcious theory.:)

Boricua
03-30-2011, 07:09 AM
So why would a pro use a stock racket and then alter it? Why doesnt the company just make a racket for that pro and sell it commercially as given to the pro?:) Maybe there is no market for them?

I would think that the por would use a demo stick, put and add lead, and then the company would make that racket for him, but not add lead after making the final racket.


Maybe I could be wrong, just my uspcious theory.:)

suspicious theory, that is:)

bluetrain4
03-30-2011, 07:54 AM
Kimiko Date-Krumm uses a 385 gram racquet. Thats 13.58 ounces! I am guessing that is one of the heaviest on the WTA.


Such a heavy racket would be perfect for Date-Krumm's strokes, which are incredibly compact, hardly any backswing. Thus, she can effectively use that mass to redirect other player's pace. If she had enourmous loop strokes (such as a Soderling forehand or Gasquet backhand), then such a heavy frame would probably be a liability for her (though Sabatini had pretty long strokes and used an even heavier frame).

kiteboard
03-30-2011, 09:07 AM
See info on Bjorn Borg's frames here:

http://www.80s-tennis.com/pages/borg-anecdote-jose.html

Does anyone still think the pros are less sensitive to their equipment than the rest of us?

Doubles
03-30-2011, 06:52 PM
Does anyone still think the pros are less sensitive to their equipment than the rest of us?

No one ever said that they were. The fact is, that amateurs are the ones who should care less about what they use...

jonRF
04-17-2011, 06:34 AM
Robredo's racket is sort of light in the ATP.

In the WTA, the lightest belongs to Dominika Cibulkova.

I consider Federer's stick one of the heaviest in present day!

SandV
04-18-2011, 10:34 AM
Don Budge reportedly used a 16 ounce racquet.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=490

Jack Krramer too, 16 oz. with a 5 3/4 grip.(Tennis Magazine)

ivo
04-22-2011, 04:13 AM
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TheBoom
04-22-2011, 05:50 AM
What's that in ounces?:)

Around 11 oz