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barty9
03-25-2011, 03:40 PM
Simple - Which pro uses the cheapest racket on the tour?! :)

The Baseline
03-25-2011, 03:42 PM
Simple - Which pro uses the cheapest racket on the tour?! :)

Real easy answer..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DptKbqqO1EY

barty9
03-25-2011, 03:50 PM
that actually happened to me with a sergio tachinni frame!

Migelowsky
03-25-2011, 03:58 PM
Jay Berger used the Prince Pro 110 when it
was already considered a very old racket ,
everybody was hitting with graphite since
5 years earlier. They made fun of his "wallmart rackets"
on tennis magazine.

https://s3.amazonaws.com:443/cs-montrealgazette/CommunityServer.Components.ImageFileViewer/CommunityServer/Blogs/Components/WeblogFiles/opencourt/5722.berger2.jpg-550x0.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0TTXDM86AJ1CB68A7P02&Expires=1301104954&Signature=yF82B2YswUqqy1JTKJsdtyPkcGc%3d

ollinger
03-25-2011, 04:03 PM
They made fun of more than his racquet -- he had the "sawed-off" service motion that began with racquet in the back-scratch position. Made alot of sense really, cutting out alot of the shmutz.

VGP
03-25-2011, 04:05 PM
Yeah, but Prince Pros were priced way over $100 when new....

That's like saying Nadal uses $50 rackets because he uses the APD original.

The Baseline
03-25-2011, 04:13 PM
Jay Berger used the Prince Pro 110 when it
was already considered a very old racket ,
everybody was hitting with graphite since
5 years earlier. They made fun of his "wallmart rackets"
on tennis magazine.

https://s3.amazonaws.com:443/cs-montrealgazette/CommunityServer.Components.ImageFileViewer/CommunityServer/Blogs/Components/WeblogFiles/opencourt/5722.berger2.jpg-550x0.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0TTXDM86AJ1CB68A7P02&Expires=1301104954&Signature=yF82B2YswUqqy1JTKJsdtyPkcGc%3d

thats interesting wow. a 110 sq. inch frame.

Migelowsky
03-25-2011, 04:30 PM
I used it, still have it , I think itīs more like 107 sq inch =),
but yes, people at the time could see the difference
between that prince pro and something newer.
Nadalīs racquet looks almost the same as the "new one", they really have nothing new , just all the new the gimmicks .

brinkeguthrie
03-25-2011, 05:54 PM
that actually happened to me with a sergio tachinni frame!



s.t. made frames?

PBODY99
03-25-2011, 07:20 PM
s.t. made frames?

Yes, and so did Fila.

OHAI
03-25-2011, 07:23 PM
Real easy answer..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DptKbqqO1EY

Yes that's what happens when you mistreat your frame.

barty9
03-26-2011, 05:03 AM
Yes, and so did Fila.

i dint know fila made frames! the ST racket was mental!

Bobby Jr
03-26-2011, 05:39 AM
Jay Berger used the Prince Pro 110 when it
was already considered a very old racket
Way, way worse - Cedric Pioline.

He was using an aluminium racquet into the mid 90s.. including in a grand slam final.

The Prince Magnesium Pro... technically probably not the cheapest frame - but definitely very, very old school. I can't recall another pro using a non-composite frame into the 90s with such success.

http://i55.tinypic.com/az8klu.jpg

Rorsach
03-26-2011, 08:23 AM
Real easy answer..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DptKbqqO1EY

Give me the most expensive racquet and i'll treat like she treated her Babolat. I think the end result is gonna be the same.

No stick is made for hammering the court repeatedly (which is what she did prior to that clip).

Ronaldo
03-26-2011, 08:35 AM
Way, way worse - Cedric Pioline.

He was using an aluminium racquet into the mid 90s.. including in a grand slam final.

The Prince Magnesium Pro... technically probably not the cheapest frame - but definitely very, very old school. I can't recall another pro using a non-composite frame into the 90s with such success.

http://i55.tinypic.com/az8klu.jpg

Still own a pr of 90 and 110 Mag Pros. Sweet racquets, btw did Pat Cash use a Mag Pro?

VGP
03-26-2011, 08:38 AM
Way, way worse - Cedric Pioline.

He was using an aluminium racquet into the mid 90s.. including in a grand slam final.

The Prince Magnesium Pro... technically probably not the cheapest frame - but definitely very, very old school. I can't recall another pro using a non-composite frame into the 90s with such success.

http://i55.tinypic.com/az8klu.jpg

The Magnesium Pro is still a good frame. As is the Prince Pro. Just because they have the metal frame with plastic throat, don't assume they're the same quality of any current "Wal-Mart" frame.

Pioline - top five ranking (in the age of Sampras, Agassi, et al.) and two grand slam finals.....a lot of guys would kill to have that career.

Ronaldo
03-26-2011, 08:43 AM
The Magnesium Pro is still a good frame. As is the Prince Pro. Just because they have the metal frame with plastic throat, don't assume they're the same quality of any current "Wal-Mart" frame.

Pioline - top five ranking (in the age of Sampras, Agassi, et al.) and two grand slam finals.....a lot of guys would kill to have that career.

Yonex R-22 was a Wal-mart racquet by 1990. Believe Andres Gomez won the FO using it.

dominikk1985
03-26-2011, 08:46 AM
Real easy answer..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DptKbqqO1EY

babolat PJ on a walmart racket?:D

mctennis
03-26-2011, 09:00 AM
I think Albert Costa won the 2002 French Open using a Prince Original Graphite racquet. They were priced very low at that time even though I don't consider that a "cheap" racquet. It was just 25 year old technology. In fact I think Juan Carlos Ferrero was also using the POG against him in that final.

VGP
03-26-2011, 09:05 AM
Yonex R-22 was a Wal-mart racquet by 1990. Believe Andres Gomez won the FO using it.

Yup, he did.

I'm talking about what people consider a "cheap" frame quality wise today. That's what's available at Wal-Mart now, not Yonex R-22s. Although if you go online, they've got better stuff than what's at the in-store locations.

I remember reading an article in the mid-90s about how at the time you could get good rackets for $50 that only a few years earlier were touted as being "new tech" that were priced at $250. I was younger then and that made an impression on me. I rarely ever buy a "new" frame. Up until a few years ago, I would wait until a frame I'm interested in is in the discount bin. I don't wait too long as not to have a choice in grip size should I decide to make them my "playing" frames.

Ever since the transition away from wood, selling new tech to the masses has been true. I just find it funny that people will go on and on about how Babolat's GT technology is better than or they have to "upgrade" from the Wilson kBlade to the Blade BLX.

I'm sure many of these people would hit just as well with a decent past frame that you can get at your local thrift store for $2. I've even moved to less expensive frames from even the retail stores' discount bins. I don't make my living at tennis so.....I consider myself a thrift store/used sporting goods racket kinda guy.

Oh, back to Jay Berger.....not only did he use the Prince Pro 110 while everyone else was using graphite, he strung them at 90 pounds.

Ronaldo
03-26-2011, 09:19 AM
Yup, he did.

I'm talking about what people consider a "cheap" frame quality wise today. That's what's available at Wal-Mart now, not Yonex R-22s. Although if you go online, they've got better stuff than what's at the in-store locations.

I remember reading an article in the mid-90s about how at the time you could get good rackets for $50 that only a few years earlier were touted as being "new tech" that were priced at $250. I was younger then and that made an impression on me. I rarely ever buy a "new" frame. Up until a few years ago, I would wait until a frame I'm interested in is in the discount bin. I don't wait too long as not to have a choice in grip size should I decide to make them my "playing" frames.

Ever since the transition away from wood, selling new tech to the masses has been true. I just find it funny that people will go on and on about how Babolat's GT technology is better than or they have to "upgrade" from the Wilson kBlade to the Blade BLX.

I'm sure many of these people would hit just as well with a decent past frame that you can get at your local thrift store for $2. I've even moved to less expensive frames from even the retail stores' discount bins. I don't make my living at tennis so.....I consider myself a thrift store/used sporting goods racket kinda guy.

Oh, back to Jay Berger.....not only did he use the Prince Pro 110 while everyone else was using graphite, he strung them at 90 pounds.

Better wear safety glasses string for Berger. Knew a guy who wanted his POG strung at 98#. He never saw the racquet strung. The last cheap racquet I used was that Head Ti.5000 w/102" head from Target for $11. 102" Radical

LPShanet
03-26-2011, 12:27 PM
Simple - Which pro uses the cheapest racket on the tour?! :)

Interesting, but definitely not simple. What do you mean by cheapest? Are you talking retail price? If so, do you mean its current cost or its suggested retail when it was introduced? In the end, you probably won't find much variation, as most pros use stuff that was pretty standard anywhere from 3-15 years ago. And performance frames don't vary that much in price. Or did you mean cheapest in the sense of worst quality?

Don't Let It Bounce
03-26-2011, 01:32 PM
Still own a pr of 90 and 110 Mag Pros. Sweet racquets, btw did Pat Cash use a Mag Pro?Yes, the Series 90, though his were in the usual gray color while Pioline's were painted white. (Pioline had a deeply sweet one-hand backhand, I always thought.)

Pam Shriver used what was at the time the entry-level Prince model, the Classic.

For cheapness of manufacture in the context of the time it was used, Connors playing the T2000 after everyone had gone to composites merits mention.

li0scc0
03-29-2011, 12:37 PM
Yonex R-22 was a Wal-mart racquet by 1990. Believe Andres Gomez won the FO using it.

The K6.1 95 is a WalMart racquet now.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Wilson-K-Six.One-95-Strung-Performance-Racket-Small/15739917

Sandwichman
03-30-2011, 09:42 AM
The K6.1 95 is a WalMart racquet now.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Wilson-K-Six.One-95-Strung-Performance-Racket-Small/15739917

I bet all the people who bought the BLX Pro Tour because Del Po used it are now trying to buy them up!

boris becker 1
04-07-2011, 05:43 PM
Way, way worse - Cedric Pioline.

He was using an aluminium racquet into the mid 90s.. including in a grand slam final.

The Prince Magnesium Pro... technically probably not the cheapest frame - but definitely very, very old school. I can't recall another pro using a non-composite frame into the 90s with such success.

http://i55.tinypic.com/az8klu.jpg


he ran out of these and was buying them from retailers.


vitas gerulatis's snauwert racket

barty9
05-19-2011, 01:42 PM
thanks for all the interesting answers

big bang
05-19-2011, 03:01 PM
I think Albert Costa won the 2002 French Open using a Prince Original Graphite racquet. They were priced very low at that time even though I don't consider that a "cheap" racquet. It was just 25 year old technology. In fact I think Juan Carlos Ferrero was also using the POG against him in that final.
I believe it was Graphite II they both used that year.

kiteboard
05-19-2011, 03:26 PM
Raonic: stock kblade.

vsbabolat
05-19-2011, 09:31 PM
I believe it was Graphite II they both used that year.

Costa was using the Graphite II MP Longbody it went by the power level number. While Ferrero was using the Prince Original Graphite Longbody that is 100sq.in.

blackfrido
05-20-2011, 08:28 AM
Way, way worse - Cedric Pioline.

He was using an aluminium racquet into the mid 90s.. including in a grand slam final.

The Prince Magnesium Pro... technically probably not the cheapest frame - but definitely very, very old school. I can't recall another pro using a non-composite frame into the 90s with such success.

http://i55.tinypic.com/az8klu.jpg

Jose Luis Clerc was using a Rossignol Strato (wooden racquet)

reini0100
05-24-2011, 10:10 PM
was there really produced a white mag pro or was it coloured white with paintjob. regards