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Boricua
03-28-2011, 08:48 AM
Gut mains, poly crosses, or full multi setup.

The gut mains will cost more but will not lose tension as fast as the full multi, so in this aspect will it last more. But, gut may break fast if one hits heavy topspin. On the other hand, gut has better playability adn feel than multi.

So, what is more cost effective considering these and other aspects?:)

pvaudio
03-28-2011, 08:52 AM
Just get a good value multi if you're even considering those two options. Normally it's full multi vs. a gut/syn gut or gut/multi hybrid. The feel is nothing alike and is for different types of players. So with that said, something like Alpha Gut would be a great choice.

Doubles
03-28-2011, 08:55 AM
I agree with pvaudio. A full multi would probably be more cost effective than a gut poly hybrid, if you feel tension drop, and break strings quickly. I would recommend Alpha Gut 2000, HEAD RIP Control, or Mantis Comfort synthetic form a quality, and inexpensive multi...

Boricua
03-28-2011, 09:21 AM
I am an agressive, topspin player. Will these recommended strings fit this type of game or are they too powerful?:)

mikeler
03-28-2011, 10:11 AM
I am an agressive, topspin player. Will these recommended strings fit this type of game or are they too powerful?:)


Try RIP Control if you don't need a lot of feel on your shots. Great spin and solid around the net. Seems durable too.

dadozen
03-28-2011, 10:15 AM
From your game description, I think that a full co-poly setup would work better. You can find nice, cheap and soft co-polys out there, especially the thinner ones.

Some suggestions:

WeissCANNON Scorpion 1.22 / Turbo Twist 1.18 / Black5Edge / Silverstring 1.20
Signum Pro Hyperion 1.18

Boricua
03-28-2011, 01:51 PM
Try RIP Control if you don't need a lot of feel on your shots. Great spin and solid around the net. Seems durable too.

I like FEEL...:)

Boricua
03-28-2011, 01:53 PM
From your game description, I think that a full co-poly setup would work better. You can find nice, cheap and soft co-polys out there, especially the thinner ones.

Some suggestions:

WeissCANNON Scorpion 1.22 / Turbo Twist 1.18 / Black5Edge / Silverstring 1.20
Signum Pro Hyperion 1.18

Ive tried this, too stiff for me.:)

dadozen
03-28-2011, 02:41 PM
Ive tried this, too stiff for me.:)

Really? Which tension did you use? I use these polys @ 50.

mikeler
03-29-2011, 06:11 AM
I like FEEL...:)


Then I would not suggest RIP Control.

Boricua
03-29-2011, 06:13 AM
Really? Which tension did you use? I use these polys @ 50.

55 with Black5Edge and 45 with Polybibre Black Venom

Carolina Racquet
03-29-2011, 06:44 AM
Though I haven't tried it... I've researched the Tourna Quasi-Gut. Here's the RSI review published about a year ago...

http://www.uniquesports.us/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=USP&Category_Code=QGUTR

Also, if you like it, you can buy a reel and pay just over $6.25 for a full set. Not bad for a good multi.

mikeler
03-29-2011, 07:03 AM
Though I haven't tried it... I've researched the Tourna Quasi-Gut. Here's the RSI review published about a year ago...

http://www.uniquesports.us/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=USP&Category_Code=QGUTR

Also, if you like it, you can buy a reel and pay just over $6.25 for a full set. Not bad for a good multi.


Quasi as a full bed had a lot of control but the spin potential is low. There are some flat hitters at my club that use it as a cross and it works great for them. It did not work as well for this heavy topspin player.

ethebull
03-29-2011, 07:09 AM
Feel is very subjective in that "the right feel" for player A may be completely wrong for player B. Feel for me combines power response, sense of pocketing, control, and -the right stiffness- . Again, FOR ME. Every full bed of multi I've tried gets it wrong, being either too powerful and/or mushy at medium tensions, or too boardy at higher tensions. Gut feels great with a soft lower powered poly in the crosses, but tends toward too powerful or jumpy on flat hits. Full beds of syn gut at medium+ tension are my second favorite. They are very predictable and have good feel, but they don't stay that way very long. My favorite set up is a soft'ish lower powered poly main with a durable syn gut cross - current favorite: SPPP 1.18 at 55 with Bab N.vy crossed at 59 in my 18x20 Ozone Pro Tours. I previously used RIP Control in the crosses at 60, but wanted to find something I liked as well or better bc it's such a pain to string. I have a stick I keep experimenting with, but my preference doesn't stray far.

JackB1
03-29-2011, 07:10 AM
I am in a similar quandry. My competition racquets have nat gut/copoly hybrids, but I want one racquet for practice and wet weather play. So should I just outfit one with full multi or multi/copoly to mimick the gut/copoly? This "practice" racquet may not be changed out for a month or 2, so it should be something that can last and hold tension.

tarkowski
03-29-2011, 07:19 AM
Gut mains, poly crosses, or full multi setup.

The gut mains will cost more but will not lose tension as fast as the full multi, so in this aspect will it last more. But, gut may break fast if one hits heavy topspin. On the other hand, gut has better playability adn feel than multi.

So, what is more cost effective considering these and other aspects?:)

Boricua,

A gut main/poly cross is a very durable combination, much more so than a full bed of multi. Plus, it's quite a bit more responsive and spin friendly as well. I would highly recommend this set up if you are comfortable with the power/control characteristics, as it will be more cost effective.

A few notes:

The poly does lose a bit of tension, but levels out and as a cross works very well over the course of the life of the entire string bed.

At a certain point, the poly will become harsh (losing resiliency) and you may find you will want to cut it out. However, I suspect this will be at a point long after which you would have ripped through a full bed of multi - it is for me.

Take care!

ethebull
03-29-2011, 07:22 AM
^^ I'll second that

JT_2eighty
03-29-2011, 03:06 PM
55 with Black5Edge and 45 with Polybibre Black Venom

Give Polystar Energy a shot first, at 45lbs. If this still hurts your arm, then no poly is going to work for you.

Start testing the "spin-friendly" multis that Mikeler recommends, or use RIP Control and just get accustomed to that "feel". While it may be "muted", there will be definitely more feel found with RIP than most any poly.

I'd suggest gut hybrids but I seem to recall a post where you shredded gut too fast?

Seriously: Polystar Energy ASAP, then get back to us after you test that out for a week.

Racer41c
03-29-2011, 06:11 PM
Gut mains, poly crosses, or full multi setup.

The gut mains will cost more but will not lose tension as fast as the full multi, so in this aspect will it last more. But, gut may break fast if one hits heavy topspin. On the other hand, gut has better playability adn feel than multi.

So, what is more cost effective considering these and other aspects?:)

For me, I can't play a full bed of multi. I'm not as aggressive or hit as hard as you do, but do hit a lot of spin on serves and forehands. Multi's for me are a waste of time/money because I can't get them in the sweet spot for long enough to make it worth the effort.

I would have recommended what the others did with a co-poly hybrid, but too stiff for you and too stiff for me too. I agree on the feel to an extent, but for me it's really touch.

Which is why I play gut mains and various strings in the cross. If your worried about the cost, start with a 15L or 16g which will last a good bit longer than a 17g.

Cross strings are a whole dynamic by themselves. Poly crosses will make the string bed fairly stiff. I've tried multi's as cross and had control issues. So I use a syn gut for the cross string and that works well for me.

In the end, my string setups last well over 20 hours and cost me $16 for the string ($26/2 for the gut and $6/2 for the syn gut). I haven't broken a string in a long time, and just don't have any issues at all.

Boricua
03-30-2011, 06:31 AM
Give Polystar Energy a shot first, at 45lbs. If this still hurts your arm, then no poly is going to work for you.

Start testing the "spin-friendly" multis that Mikeler recommends, or use RIP Control and just get accustomed to that "feel". While it may be "muted", there will be definitely more feel found with RIP than most any poly.

I'd suggest gut hybrids but I seem to recall a post where you shredded gut too fast?

Seriously: Polystar Energy ASAP, then get back to us after you test that out for a week.

First I have to use my current Revenge mains/gut setup and later the mean loking VS Black Gut mains/B5E cross setup. Then I will try Energy, Multifeel and RIP Control and post reviews accordingly..

Good memory by the way!:)

Boricua
03-30-2011, 06:35 AM
For me, I can't play a full bed of multi. I'm not as aggressive or hit as hard as you do, but do hit a lot of spin on serves and forehands. Multi's for me are a waste of time/money because I can't get them in the sweet spot for long enough to make it worth the effort.

I would have recommended what the others did with a co-poly hybrid, but too stiff for you and too stiff for me too. I agree on the feel to an extent, but for me it's really touch.

Which is why I play gut mains and various strings in the cross. If your worried about the cost, start with a 15L or 16g which will last a good bit longer than a 17g.

Cross strings are a whole dynamic by themselves. Poly crosses will make the string bed fairly stiff. I've tried multi's as cross and had control issues. So I use a syn gut for the cross string and that works well for me.

In the end, my string setups last well over 20 hours and cost me $16 for the string ($26/2 for the gut and $6/2 for the syn gut). I haven't broken a string in a long time, and just don't have any issues at all.

What srings are you using now in the gut/ synthetic gut setup? Why not full gut?:)

mikeler
03-30-2011, 08:08 AM
First I have to use my current Revenge mains/gut setup and later the mean loking VS Black Gut mains/B5E cross setup. Then I will try Energy, Multifeel and RIP Control and post reviews accordingly..

Good memory by the way!:)


RIP is pretty decent as a cross for feel, just when it is in the mains is when you lost it.

Boricua
03-30-2011, 08:38 AM
RIP is pretty decent as a cross for feel, just when it is in the mains is when you lost it.

Besides, when I hear RIP i dont know if I should think of RIP the ball or RIP as in Rest in Peace, kind of spooky!:)