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babbette
04-12-2011, 04:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTSWCqKYXLg&feature=feedu
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babbette
04-12-2011, 04:19 PM
lol just kidding about the go away but what the heck is it normal when a player pulls out he hangs around?:confused: Go rest make yourself scarce:confused:

good interview though

tenis1
04-12-2011, 04:32 PM
Hating again? Please stop with this nonsense.

His residence is Monte Carlo so he is at home. Also he is doing a tournament promotion work, probably to avoid getting 0 for one of his 500 tournament spots for pulling out late.

So please better you go away.

Fee
04-12-2011, 04:35 PM
Hating again? Please stop with this nonsense.

His residence is Monte Carlo so he is at home. Also he is doing a tournament promotion work, probably to avoid getting 0 for one of his 500 tournament spots for pulling out late.

So please better you go away.

Noooo, doing promo work won't stop him from getting zero pointed. He pulled out before the deadline, so he probably won't get fined either.

He said on his twitter/facebook that he felt bad about pulling out and he lived in Monte Carlo, so he would be around all week. I have no problem with it, I'm sure any of the fans that are running into him are happy too.

babbette
04-12-2011, 04:36 PM
Hating again? Please stop with this nonsense.

His residence is Monte Carlo so he is at home. Also he is doing a tournament promotion work, probably to avoid getting 0 for one of his 500 tournament spots for pulling out late.

So please better you go away.

Oh shush stop throwing the word hating around when it's not necessary. If Rafa pulled out and hung around I would be wondering what the hell he is doing there too, would that be classified as hating?

people are so quick to throw the words butthurt and hating around.

Also, I think he attended the players party, not 100% sure. he said something about recording the annual making fun of other player skeets

YodaKnowsBest
04-12-2011, 04:38 PM
His knee has been troubling him since the AO.. interesting so this means Djokovic wasn't 100%? Combine astma with the knee injury and if we have a hero.

tenis1
04-12-2011, 04:39 PM
Noooo, doing promo work won't stop him from getting zero pointed. He pulled out before the deadline, so he probably won't get fined either.

He said on his twitter/facebook that he felt bad about pulling out and he lived in Monte Carlo, so he would be around all week. I have no problem with it, I'm sure any of the fans that are running into him are happy too.

Well Federer avoided getting 0 pointer for Dubai for one of the previous years by doing tournament promotion work. Also I remember Williams sisters avoided getting 0 pointers for missing IW by doing promotion work (obviously not for IW buy for WTA).

tenis1
04-12-2011, 04:41 PM
Oh shush stop throwing the word hating around when it's not necessary. If Rafa pulled out and hung around I would be wondering what the hell he is doing there too, would that be classified as hating?

people are so quick to throw the words butthurt and hating around.

Also, I think he attended the players party, not 100% sure. he said something about recording the annual making fun of other player skeets

Sorry but starting a thread "Go away Novak" or saying "make yourself scarce" is hating.

YodaKnowsBest
04-12-2011, 04:42 PM
Djokovic- "We all know that he's always going to play 100%" :lol:

Fee
04-12-2011, 04:44 PM
Well Federer avoided getting 0 pointer for Dubai for one of the previous years by doing tournament promotion work. Also I remember Williams sisters avoided getting 0 pointers for missing IW by doing promotion work (obviously not for IW buy for WTA).

I doubt it, Dubai isn't mandatory, so I dont see how Fed could get zero pointed for it. Perhaps you can link me to the rulebook where it says that?

As for the WTA/IW/Willams sisters, the WTA rules are different. I think the Williams Sister avoided fines, not zero pointers. Not even sure the WTA has a sero pointer policy like the ATP does (but I've never read the WTA rulebook so I could be wrong about that).

Lemoned
04-12-2011, 04:45 PM
Hating again? Please stop with this nonsense.

His residence is Monte Carlo so he is at home. Also he is doing a tournament promotion work, probably to avoid getting 0 for one of his 500 tournament spots for pulling out late.

So please better you go away.
This! Many fans, sponsors and the tournament director still want to keep him around there and he lives there. Then why not? :confused:

Noooo, doing promo work won't stop him from getting zero pointed. He pulled out before the deadline, so he probably won't get fined either.

He said on his twitter/facebook that he felt bad about pulling out and he lived in Monte Carlo, so he would be around all week. I have no problem with it, I'm sure any of the fans that are running into him are happy too.
a player shall not have the ranking penalty imposed if he completes the Promotional Activities requirement as specified under "Repeal of Withdrawal Fines and/or Penalties" or if the on-site withdrawal procedures apply.
From ATP Rulebook

Fee
04-12-2011, 04:47 PM
From ATP Rulebook

Woah, thanks for that. Do you know what chapter, etc, that is? I want to read more. I am intrigued now (because it seems a bit ridiculous to me).

babbette
04-12-2011, 04:47 PM
Sorry but starting a thread "Go away Novak" or saying "make yourself scarce" is hating.

I should've added the LOL bit in bold and large font.

tenis1
04-12-2011, 04:49 PM
I doubt it, Dubai isn't mandatory, so I dont see how Fed could get zero pointed for it. Perhaps you can link me to the rulebook where it says that?

As for the WTA/IW/Willams sisters, the WTA rules are different. I think the Williams Sister avoided fines, not zero pointers. Not even sure the WTA has a sero pointer policy like the ATP does (but I've never read the WTA rulebook so I could be wrong about that).

Well MC is not mandatory too. The same rules apply for MC as for Dubai. Players get 0 pointers for 500 events. In fact Fed has three 0 pointers at the moment for Hamburg, Tokyo and Washington.
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Roger-Federer.aspx?t=rb

Don't have a rule book reference but I remember reading about Fed and Dubai couple of years ago (I think it was 2009).

You are probably correct for Williams sisters.

Lemoned
04-12-2011, 04:51 PM
Woah, thanks for that. Do you know what chapter, etc, that is? I want to read more. I am intrigued now (because it seems a bit ridiculous to me).
Rulebook page 170
9.03 C ATP world Tour 500 - Ranking Penalty ;)

tenis1
04-12-2011, 04:51 PM
I should've added the LOL bit in bold and large font.

Sorry I was probably a bit harsh. I see that you meant no harm this time.

Fee
04-12-2011, 04:56 PM
Rulebook page 170
9.03 C ATP world Tour 500 - Ranking Penalty ;)

Thank you. Just realized I never saved the 2010 book, but I'll check the 09 book first since its what I've got (and they only make small changes each year anyway).

Lemoned
04-12-2011, 05:02 PM
Thank you. Just realized I never saved the 2010 book, but I'll check the 09 book first since its what I've got (and they only make small changes each year anyway).
You can get it here. http://www.atpworldtour.com/Corporate/Rulebook.aspx
To be fair, those 500 series/commitment player/penalty rules are almost as complicated as it can.

Fee
04-12-2011, 05:03 PM
Somehow, I never caught on to this rule change...


A player's withdrawal from an ATP World Tour 500 event whether on time or of after
the 12 noon deadline, shall result in a zero (0) point included as one of his best of four
(4) results. Further non-consecutive withdrawals shall result in a zero (0) point allocation
replacing the next best positive result for each additional withdrawal. Players with
multiple consecutive withdrawals who are out of competition for 30 days or longer due
to injury will not be subject to a ranking penalty as long as verified and approved medical
forms are provided; or, a player shall not have the ranking penalty imposed if he
completes the Promotional Activities requirement as specified under "Repeal of
Withdrawal Fines and/or Penalties" or if the on-site withdrawal procedures apply.
Players may also appeal withdrawal penalties to a Tribunal who will determine whether
the penalties are affirmed or set aside

I didn't realize that they changed the rules for the 500's, but I guess they did this when they renamed and rebranded the tour events. That's kind of harsh in a way but I guess it keeps the players in line, sort of.

I can see Federer doing promo work in Dubai, since he lives there, but how much does this suck for other players who have to withdraw and can't fly to those cities to avoid the ranking penalty? This rule seems to favor the top 5.

Lemoned
04-12-2011, 05:12 PM
Somehow, I never caught on to this rule change...



I didn't realize that they changed the rules for the 500's, but I guess they did this when they renamed and rebranded the tour events. That's kind of harsh in a way but I guess it keeps the players in line, sort of.

I can see Federer doing promo work in Dubai, since he lives there, but how much does this suck for other players who have to withdraw and can't fly to those cities to avoid the ranking penalty? This rule seems to favor the top 5.
Not sure about it though, Gasquet had to visit Rotterdam for a crappy fashion show, after retiring from Zagreb QF and then Rotterdam due to the shoulder injury this year.

Fee
04-12-2011, 06:28 PM
Not sure about it though, Gasquet had to visit Rotterdam for a crappy fashion show, after retiring from Zagreb QF and then Rotterdam due to the shoulder injury this year.

But how many players would be willing to do that, or have the time/inclination/money, whatever to travel to yet another city, possibly nursing an injury. Something about this just irks me.