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15_ounce
04-19-2011, 11:37 PM
I think Davis Cup is really childish. Why don't they just standardize all DC's court surface, thus no more problems.


Spain objects to U.S. choice of Davis Cup surface
Ticker - Tuesday, April 19, 2011


Spain has appealed to the International Tennis Federation over the surface chosen by the United States for their July Davis Cup quarterfinal in Austin, TX.

The surface, called Indoor Hard Premiere, is not on the list of approved surfaces by the ITF, even though a source told TENNIS.com that it was used in five U.S. Davis Cup home ties and two Fed Cup home ties since 2007, including in the U.S.’ defeat of Spain in the 2007 quarterfinals, in Winston-Salem, N.C.

"It's a court that we are not familiar with because it doesn't meet the criteria," Spanish Davis Cup captain Albert Costa said at a press conference in Barcelona. "So the problem I have right now is to explain to the players what kind of court they will encounter, because even if we wanted to train on a similar one we could not install it because it is not approved."

Apparently the surface is sold in Europe under another brand name and may be used at other European ATP tournaments, but the ITF first classifies surfaces by compostion (there are nine such categories) and is said to focus less on brand name. Premiere is an acrylic hard court, and there are dozens of similar ones in the ITF's official 2011 list of approved surfaces, but Premier's name does not turn up as one of those. Interestingly, the Baltimore-based company that produces the surface, Premier Concepts, promotes its product on its web site as the one used in the 2007 Davis Cup final in Portland when United States defeated Russia at home.

The ITF has yet to release a statement on why Indoor Hard Premiere has been approved before but is not in its official list of approved surfaces.

Spain has apparently objected to the brand name, and not the type of surface, but Costa did tell El Pais that when Spain lost to the US in 2007 playing on the surface, they thought it was close too another surface, Greenset (which is used in Europe) but then found out later that it wasn't.

The ITF said that its Davis Cup committee has been asked to consider whether the surface complies with its rules and that the committee will issue its verdict on Thursday.

Premiere is an overlay of a standard acrylic hard court, where the speed can be adjusted. It is used on the ATP tour at the tournament in San Jose, California under its brand name. The portable surface can be installed onto a wood sub-floor system, which would be the case at the Frank Erwin Center at the University of Texas, where the tie will be held.

The United States will attempt to use a fast indoor surface, which Spanish No. 1 Rafael Nadal is weakest on, and is one of American Andy Roddick's favorite conditions.

A source also told TENNIS.com that Spain objected to the USTA selling tickets before the site in Austin was officially approved. Tickets for the July 8-10 tie are already sold out, but as the away nation Spain has the right to sell 10% of the ticket haul. If it does not, the rest will be released back to the USTA.—Matthew Cronin

babbette
04-20-2011, 02:23 AM
There's already a thread about this and for now it has been established that Albert is the only one complaining at the moment.
"So the problem I have right now is to explain to the players what kind of court they will encounter, because even if we wanted to train on a similar one we could not install it because it is not approved."

ananda
04-20-2011, 04:31 AM
Why don't they use the same surface for the USO so that Roddick can win another slam ?

TheBoom
04-20-2011, 04:47 AM
Because nadal just won the USO duh :)

Bartelby
04-20-2011, 05:01 AM
Spain seems to have a case, but maybe not the best case as it is just an acrylic hardcourt with an overlay. So the style of court is all right, but the overlay is not mentioned as allowable. It seems however to be something that shouldn be allowed, just something not listed for whatever reason.

The reality is the lay up and under-surface - wood - will produce a fast low-bouncing surface, which the US are allowed to do.

Tennis_Monk
04-20-2011, 06:01 AM
I think Davis Cup is really childish. Why don't they just standardize all DC's court surface, thus no more problems.


Spain objects to U.S. choice of Davis Cup surface
Ticker - Tuesday, April 19, 2011


Spain has appealed to the International Tennis Federation over the surface chosen by the United States for their July Davis Cup quarterfinal in Austin, TX.

The surface, called Indoor Hard Premiere, is not on the list of approved surfaces by the ITF, even though a source told TENNIS.com that it was used in five U.S. Davis Cup home ties and two Fed Cup home ties since 2007, including in the U.S.’ defeat of Spain in the 2007 quarterfinals, in Winston-Salem, N.C.

"It's a court that we are not familiar with because it doesn't meet the criteria," Spanish Davis Cup captain Albert Costa said at a press conference in Barcelona. "So the problem I have right now is to explain to the players what kind of court they will encounter, because even if we wanted to train on a similar one we could not install it because it is not approved."

Apparently the surface is sold in Europe under another brand name and may be used at other European ATP tournaments, but the ITF first classifies surfaces by compostion (there are nine such categories) and is said to focus less on brand name. Premiere is an acrylic hard court, and there are dozens of similar ones in the ITF's official 2011 list of approved surfaces, but Premier's name does not turn up as one of those. Interestingly, the Baltimore-based company that produces the surface, Premier Concepts, promotes its product on its web site as the one used in the 2007 Davis Cup final in Portland when United States defeated Russia at home.

The ITF has yet to release a statement on why Indoor Hard Premiere has been approved before but is not in its official list of approved surfaces.

Spain has apparently objected to the brand name, and not the type of surface, but Costa did tell El Pais that when Spain lost to the US in 2007 playing on the surface, they thought it was close too another surface, Greenset (which is used in Europe) but then found out later that it wasn't.

The ITF said that its Davis Cup committee has been asked to consider whether the surface complies with its rules and that the committee will issue its verdict on Thursday.

Premiere is an overlay of a standard acrylic hard court, where the speed can be adjusted. It is used on the ATP tour at the tournament in San Jose, California under its brand name. The portable surface can be installed onto a wood sub-floor system, which would be the case at the Frank Erwin Center at the University of Texas, where the tie will be held.

The United States will attempt to use a fast indoor surface, which Spanish No. 1 Rafael Nadal is weakest on, and is one of American Andy Roddick's favorite conditions.

A source also told TENNIS.com that Spain objected to the USTA selling tickets before the site in Austin was officially approved. Tickets for the July 8-10 tie are already sold out, but as the away nation Spain has the right to sell 10% of the ticket haul. If it does not, the rest will be released back to the USTA.—Matthew Cronin

Made me chuckle. Cant fault USA for trying. US best lineup seems to be a combination of Roddick/Fish/Isner/Querrey. Spain has Rafa/ferrer/Verdasco/Robredo/Ferrero.

ninman
04-20-2011, 06:19 AM
They may be complaining about the surface, but I bet that Nadal being such a humbalito won't be complaining about his racquet.

http://www.dimensionsguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Frying-Pan.jpg

fleabitten
04-20-2011, 06:19 AM
Spain actually makes a good point. If it is not on the approved list, end of story. But the OP suggests to standardize the DC surface? Crazy talk. That's not feasible because it would be impossible to change all the venues obviously.

Nuke
04-20-2011, 06:27 AM
Isn't this the way Davis Cup always goes? The host picks the surface that will give their guys the best advantage over the visitors. If our guys were better on skates, the court would be on the ice at a hockey rink.

pmerk34
04-20-2011, 08:49 AM
Isn't this the way Davis Cup always goes? The host picks the surface that will give their guys the best advantage over the visitors. If our guys were better on skates, the court would be on the ice at a hockey rink.

Australia complained about the US importing red clay for one of their ties played in the 90's

Djokovicfan4life
04-20-2011, 08:57 AM
Whatever happens, NEVER should they standardize the surface. That's pretty much the best part of Davis Cup, the different surfaces.

boredone3456
04-20-2011, 09:07 AM
If its not on the list of approved surfaces how is this type of court used at an actual Tournament site and how has it, in the past, been approved for Ties? If they want to complain about the name, well, thats Spains right, but it seems to me its also entirely possible they just don't want to play on a surface that doesn't favor them and are going to try and delay and get out of it. This is sort of backed up by the fact they lost on this surface in 2007...will be interesting to see how this plays out.

ananda
04-20-2011, 09:14 AM
Because nadal just won the USO duh :)
That's not what I said. They should use this surface for the USO. The USO should also customize the USO surface so Roddick/Fish/Isner have a better chance. viz a faster surface.

stringertom
04-20-2011, 12:06 PM
Methinks they doth protest too much! I think the French sting has not gone away yet. Show up, play and let the racquets do all the talking! They obviously are capable of winning no matter what surface so just shut up!

Jchurch
04-20-2011, 12:45 PM
Methinks they doth protest too much! I think the French sting has not gone away yet. Show up, play and let the racquets do all the talking! They obviously are capable of winning no matter what surface so just shut up!

I totally agree

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afUTyqG90sE

namelessone
04-20-2011, 12:53 PM
Methinks they doth protest too much! I think the French sting has not gone away yet. Show up, play and let the racquets do all the talking! They obviously are capable of winning no matter what surface so just shut up!

So why do you think they are talking?

To psyche the americans out?

Let's assume the absurd, that the spaniards complaining leads to a change of surface. You think the americans won't put another type of fast surface in?

The spaniards know they can't change the surface, they are just pointing out the fact that they are not familiar with it as it is only played in one tourney from what I could make out from the story.

Also, I don't think I've heard any talking from the spanish team before or after when the frenchies spanked them 5-0 on a much faster surface that what the americans will put on display. I wonder why.

Gorecki
04-20-2011, 12:54 PM
ITF Classification does not imply any form of ITF approval or endorsement.

cheers dear *******s...

namelessone
04-20-2011, 12:56 PM
cheers dear *******s...

So why do you think Costa is talking about this?

Spain have played(and lost BADLY) on much faster surfaces.

I'm just saying that it is a odd thing to complain about and I don't see the advantages for Spain. The surface can't and won't be changed and even in the absolutely absurd scenario in which it is, it will not be a slow surface anyway.

Outside of Dasco I don't think any of the spanish team have played at SAP recently, where this surface is used . Lopez too in the past if I remember correctly.

Gorecki
04-20-2011, 01:02 PM
So why do you think Costa is talking about this?

Spain have played(and lost BADLY) on much faster surfaces.

not my problem.

point is: prior to make assumptions on the innocence of Humbalito and the hord of clay benders, do your search! what i posted is in the ITF page!!!

namelessone
04-20-2011, 01:05 PM
not my problem.

point is: prior to make assumptions on the innocence of Humbalito and the hord of clay benders, do your search! what i posted is in the ITF page!!!

I didn't know one could be "innocent" or "guilty" when dishing out your OPINION on a subject.

Murrayfan31
04-20-2011, 01:07 PM
lol Pathetic. USA picks a fast indoor court and Spain goes nuts about it. What did you think would happen? There are courts clearly faster than the US Open as Nadal will find out soon. He thinks he can moonball on fastcourts. Think again.

Gorecki
04-20-2011, 01:07 PM
I didn't know one could be "innocent" or "guilty" when dishing out your OPINION on a subject.

when you make false claims you are guilty of something right? or it's not like that in romania?

namelessone
04-20-2011, 01:10 PM
I think Davis Cup is really childish. Why don't they just standardize all DC's court surface, thus no more problems.



BS.

That's the whole point of DC. Surviving in a "hostile" country when you play away ties. You play in their conditions provided that they don't try any shennanigans(you always hear food poisoning allegations in DC :) ). Not to mention the usually hostile crowd.

DjokerIsTheBest
04-20-2011, 01:16 PM
when you make false claims you are guilty of something right? or it's not like that in romania?

In romania, justice depends on who you pay off.

cocolate
04-20-2011, 01:18 PM
In romania, justice depends on who you pay off.

like you know.

cocolate
04-20-2011, 01:19 PM
In romania, justice depends on who you pay off.

I was to Romania a couple of times adn let me know if i got it right: sugii pola

namelessone
04-20-2011, 01:20 PM
when you make false claims you are guilty of something right? or it's not like that in romania?

What false claims?

The claim was that the surface wasn't on the list of approved surfaces by the ITF. Costa said this, I repeated this and so did Costa's pupil from the spanish team, Nadal.

Courier said that they used this surface in the past to defend against Costa's allegations but not with the "we don't need ITF approval"(your info) but with the "we've used this surface before(in 2007)" defense.

So it's not as clear cut as you make it.

In fact the article says that the following:

"The ITF has yet to release a statement on why Indoor Hard Premiere has been approved before but is not in its official list of approved surfaces."

"The ITF said that its Davis Cup committee has been asked to consider whether the surface complies with its rules and that the committee will issue its verdict on Thursday."

If this was clear cut there would be no issue and the ITF wouldn't be debating this come Thursday.

Anway, it's a lot of talking for nothing IMO but for Costa apparently this was important.

namelessone
04-20-2011, 01:21 PM
I was to Romania a couple of times adn let me know if i got it right: sugii pola

Nope, it's "sugi pula". :)

Gorecki
04-20-2011, 01:22 PM
I was to Romania a couple of times adn let me know if i got it right: sugii pola

http://www.proz.com/kudoz/romanian_to_english/slang/859129-sugi_pula.html

nice way to get banned

cocolate
04-20-2011, 01:23 PM
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/romanian_to_english/slang/859129-sugi_pula.html

nice way to get banned

i said sugii pola..

Gorecki
04-20-2011, 01:25 PM
What false claims?

The claim was that the surface wasn't on the list of approved surfaces by the ITF. Costa said this, I repeated this and so did Costa's pupil from the spanish team, Nadal.

Courier said that they used this surface in the past to defend against Costa's allegations but not with the "we don't need ITF approval"(your info) but with the "we've used this surface before(in 2007)" defense.

So it's not as clear cut as you make it.

In fact the article says that the following:

"The ITF has yet to release a statement on why Indoor Hard Premiere has been approved before but is not in its official list of approved surfaces."

"The ITF said that its Davis Cup committee has been asked to consider whether the surface complies with its rules and that the committee will issue its verdict on Thursday."

If this was clear cut there would be no issue and the ITF wouldn't be debating this come Thursday.

Anway, it's a lot of talking for nothing IMO but for Costa apparently this was important.

i dont give two shaits on the ways you try to twist it.

for clearer cut in your little brain please visit:

http://www.itftennis.com/technical/equipment/courts/courtlist.asp

namelessone
04-20-2011, 01:31 PM
i dont give two shaits on the ways you try to twist it.

for clearer cut in your little brain please visit:

http://www.itftennis.com/technical/equipment/courts/courtlist.asp

As usual, no civilized retort from you.

I get it, they are spanish but sheesh.

Oh, and where's Indoor Hard Premiere on that list? :)

And another thing, this is from the tennis.com article, those dirty spaniards:

"Spain has apparently objected to the brand name, and not the type of surface"

In short, it's a sort of tehnicality the way I see it.

Gorecki
04-20-2011, 01:34 PM
As usual, no civilized retort from you.

I get it, they are spanish but sheesh.

Oh, and where's Indoor Hard Premiere on that list? :)

And another thing, this is from the tennis.com article, those dirty spaniards:

"Spain has apparently objected to the brand name, and not the type of surface"

In short, it's a sort of tehnicality the way I see it.

LET ME RETORT YOU IN A CIVILIZED MANNER THEN:

YOU CANNOT READ JUST LIKE MR COSTA!

read the fracken page once more! maybe your pea wil get it then... hint approved vs classified...

here

ITF Classification does not imply any form of ITF approval or endorsement.

namelessone
04-20-2011, 01:46 PM
LET ME RETORT YOU IN A CIVILIZED MANNER THEN:

YOU CANNOT READ JUST LIKE MR COSTA!

read the fracken page once more! maybe your pea wil get it then... hint approved vs classified...

here

Apparently neither can the ITF since they are debating this non-issue(in essence) on Thursday. And all they had to do was visit their own webpage. Imagine that.

If this is as clear cut as you make it, the ITF wouldn't have listened to Costa's complaint, which again, is a TECHNICALITY.

The surface WILL NOT be changed IMO, too late for that and even in the absurd case in which it would, it would still be a fast one. It's not like Spain is expecting clay in Texas.

Here's some of what bozo has to say on this whole "issue" and for once I actually agree with him:

http://blogs.tennis.com/tennisworld/2011/04/tj.html

"It seems that Spanish captain Albert Costa has appealed to the ITF, the promoter and ultimate authority in Davis and Fed Cup, noting that the Indoor Hard Premiere surface the U.S. wants to use—and has used in the past for both Davis and Fed Cup ties—is not on the ITF's list of officially approved surfaces. Of course, the ITF approved the surface, tacitly or otherwise, for those past ties. Thus, what we have here is Costa siezing upon a technicality to challenge the choice of surface. The big question is how the ITF will respond, given that, technically speaking, Costa's complaint is valid—the surface is not on the approved list."

"In other words, the court was custom-made, and that appears to be part of Costa's problem. He told the Spanish newspaper El Pais that prior to that 2007 battle in Winston-Salem, the Spanish were led to believe that Premiere was more-or-less the same as a hard court commonly used in Europe, GreenSet (and the basic Premiere court is nearly identical to GreenSet). The Spanish say they learned, upon arriving for that tie, that the similarity between the surfaces was exaggerated.

The argument made by the Spanish also appears to be strengthened by the fact that the "choice of surface" rules specify that the surface for any tie must be used by either a Grand Slam event or at three men's pro tour events. Premiere fails this test, because the only tournament where it's used is San Jose."

Bodo also can't read :)

stringertom
04-20-2011, 06:23 PM
So why do you think Costa is talking about this?

Spain have played(and lost BADLY) on much faster surfaces.

I'm just saying that it is a odd thing to complain about and I don't see the advantages for Spain. The surface can't and won't be changed and even in the absolutely absurd scenario in which it is, it will not be a slow surface anyway.

Outside of Dasco I don't think any of the spanish team have played at SAP recently, where this surface is used . Lopez too in the past if I remember correctly.
Eddie Munster is VERY familiar with the high bounce off this surface. Milos "midget-ized" him in San Jose. BTW, was Costa on the '07 DC staff? If so, he is also VERY familiar with the surface.

As I said, just SHUT UP & PLAY! If you win, bow to the crowd, dance and hug, throw your captain in the air and shout Viva Espana. If you lose cry about how the dirty Americans tricked you by playing a non-approved surface. In short, keep being Spanish.

namelessone
04-20-2011, 07:07 PM
Eddie Munster is VERY familiar with the high bounce off this surface. Milos "midget-ized" him in San Jose. BTW, was Costa on the '07 DC staff? If so, he is also VERY familiar with the surface.

As I said, just SHUT UP & PLAY! If you win, bow to the crowd, dance and hug, throw your captain in the air and shout Viva Espana. If you lose cry about how the dirty Americans tricked you by playing a non-approved surface. In short, keep being Spanish.

LOL at the rampant nationalism :)

single_handed_champion
04-20-2011, 07:12 PM
It seems to me that the issue really is with the Spanish team getting to practise on the identical surface before the tie, which may be problematic if it is fine-tuned like the article suggests, and is also not played on much on the tour.

Much ado about nothing really. Surely Courier will have no problems with revealing the specifics of the surface tuning.

namelessone
04-20-2011, 07:23 PM
It seems to me that the issue really is with the Spanish team getting to practise on the identical surface before the tie, which may be problematic if it is fine-tuned like the article suggests, and is also not played on much on the tour.



Finally, a sensible post about this whole non-issue.

I'm sure Roddick is wetting his pants cause the spanish captain complained about the specifics of this surface(and how his own team isn't familiar with it) :)

Almost everyone that criticizes Costa thinks that he is talking about the SPEED of the court which I find hilarious. He is talking about familiarity of it on tour and how they couldn't manage to get hold of a similar surface(regarding brand names in Europe because in composition there are a lot of similar ones that are imported in Europe as well ) because the US surface is customized.

Also, the ITF thought it best to settle this "issue" by debating it on Tuesday and I think they know more about this than the patriottards around TW.

single_handed_champion
04-20-2011, 07:36 PM
Finally, a sensible post about this whole non-issue.

I'm sure Roddick is wetting his pants cause the spanish captain complained about the specifics of this surface(and how his own team isn't familiar with it) :)

Almost everyone that criticizes Costa thinks that he is talking about the SPEED of the court which I find hilarious. He is talking about familiarity of it on tour and how they couldn't manage to get hold of a similar surface(regarding brand names in Europe because in composition there are a lot of similar ones that are imported in Europe as well ) because the US surface is customized.

Also, the ITF thought it best to settle this "issue" by debating it on Tuesday and I think they know more about this than the patriottards around TW.

Besides, as Davis Cup captain, this is no minor detail, especially if it is true that the 2007 team was "led to believe that Premiere was more-or-less the same as a hard court commonly used in Europe, GreenSet (and the basic Premiere court is nearly identical to GreenSet). The Spanish say they learned, upon arriving for that tie, that the similarity between the surfaces was exaggerated."

Sounds like an embarrassing situation for all concerned, and any sensible captain should attend to such things.

namelessone
04-20-2011, 07:45 PM
Besides, as Davis Cup captain, this is no minor detail, especially if it is true that the 2007 team was "led to believe that Premiere was more-or-less the same as a hard court commonly used in Europe, GreenSet (and the basic Premiere court is nearly identical to GreenSet). The Spanish say they learned, upon arriving for that tie, that the similarity between the surfaces was exaggerated."

Sounds like an embarrassing situation for all concerned, and any sensible captain should attend to such things.

I hope you know that you are now supporting the "dirty spaniards" in the eyes of many on TW :twisted:

0d1n
04-21-2011, 01:31 AM
when you make false claims you are guilty of something right? or it's not like that in romania?

Only for regular people. The president gets to make false claims without being guilty of anything. Just like in the USA really...

In romania, justice depends on who you pay off.

Again...just like in many places in this world we live in.

0d1n
04-21-2011, 01:32 AM
I was to Romania a couple of times adn let me know if i got it right: sugii pola

You didn't, but you "got your point across".

babbette
04-21-2011, 01:52 AM
Nadal's response if a Spanish speaker is kind enough to translate?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrC4H3vSM4o&feature=feedu

aphex
04-21-2011, 02:02 AM
Apparently neither can the ITF since they are debating this non-issue(in essence) on Thursday. And all they had to do was visit their own webpage. Imagine that.

If this is as clear cut as you make it, the ITF wouldn't have listened to Costa's complaint, which again, is a TECHNICALITY.

The surface WILL NOT be changed IMO, too late for that and even in the absurd case in which it would, it would still be a fast one. It's not like Spain is expecting clay in Texas.

Here's some of what bozo has to say on this whole "issue" and for once I actually agree with him:

http://blogs.tennis.com/tennisworld/2011/04/tj.html

"It seems that Spanish captain Albert Costa has appealed to the ITF, the promoter and ultimate authority in Davis and Fed Cup, noting that the Indoor Hard Premiere surface the U.S. wants to use—and has used in the past for both Davis and Fed Cup ties—is not on the ITF's list of officially approved surfaces. Of course, the ITF approved the surface, tacitly or otherwise, for those past ties. Thus, what we have here is Costa siezing upon a technicality to challenge the choice of surface. The big question is how the ITF will respond, given that, technically speaking, Costa's complaint is valid—the surface is not on the approved list."

"In other words, the court was custom-made, and that appears to be part of Costa's problem. He told the Spanish newspaper El Pais that prior to that 2007 battle in Winston-Salem, the Spanish were led to believe that Premiere was more-or-less the same as a hard court commonly used in Europe, GreenSet (and the basic Premiere court is nearly identical to GreenSet). The Spanish say they learned, upon arriving for that tie, that the similarity between the surfaces was exaggerated.

The argument made by the Spanish also appears to be strengthened by the fact that the "choice of surface" rules specify that the surface for any tie must be used by either a Grand Slam event or at three men's pro tour events. Premiere fails this test, because the only tournament where it's used is San Jose."

Bodo also can't read :)

LOL at the rampant nationalism :)

Finally, a sensible post about this whole non-issue.

I'm sure Roddick is wetting his pants cause the spanish captain complained about the specifics of this surface(and how his own team isn't familiar with it) :)

Almost everyone that criticizes Costa thinks that he is talking about the SPEED of the court which I find hilarious. He is talking about familiarity of it on tour and how they couldn't manage to get hold of a similar surface(regarding brand names in Europe because in composition there are a lot of similar ones that are imported in Europe as well ) because the US surface is customized.

Also, the ITF thought it best to settle this "issue" by debating it on Tuesday and I think they know more about this than the patriottards around TW.

I hope you know that you are now supporting the "dirty spaniards" in the eyes of many on TW :twisted:

If Spain under General Humbalito, invaded Romania one day, namelessone would be the first one to bend over.

...and take it with dignified pleasure...

Hitman
04-21-2011, 02:04 AM
If Spain under General Humbalito, invaded Romania one day, namelessone would be the first one to bend over.

...and take it with dignified pleasure...

I shouldn't have, but I LOL'd at this!

namelessone
04-21-2011, 02:22 AM
If Spain under General Humbalito, invaded Romania one day, namelessone would be the first one to bend over.

...and take it with dignified pleasure...

Doesn't this forum have any mods?

Are we allowed to insult each other around here?

aphex
04-21-2011, 02:26 AM
Doesn't this forum have any mods?

Are we allowed to insult each other around here?

I've asked that question many times.

Your mancrush on Humbalito insults me greatly...

namelessone
04-21-2011, 02:35 AM
I've asked that question many times.

Your mancrush on Humbalito insults me greatly...

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/9/90123/1668660-cool_story_bro_jesus_super.jpg

aphex
04-21-2011, 02:41 AM
http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/4630871/thanks-BRO.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=jesus-says

ninman
04-21-2011, 08:11 AM
If Spain under General Humbalito, invaded Romania one day, namelessone would be the first one to bend over.

...and take it with dignified pleasure...

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l2a25qVn9d1qzf23oo1_500.png

TheTruth
04-21-2011, 09:54 AM
Doesn't this forum have any mods?

Are we allowed to insult each other around here?

That's pretty bad.

yellowoctopus
04-21-2011, 10:44 AM
I think the regulations for time between points should also be strictly enforced at this particular Davis Cup match up as well as the sideline 'spa treatments'. That will show the U.S. team that everyone should follow the ITF regulations to the letter.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/blogs/straightsets/07usopen_medical1.480.jpg

Murrayfan31
04-21-2011, 11:00 AM
I think the regulations for time between points should also be strictly enforced at this particular Davis Cup match up as well as the sideline 'spa treatments'. That will show the U.S. team that everyone should follow the ITF regulations to the letter.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/blogs/straightsets/07usopen_medical1.480.jpg
Yeah Nadal's delay tactics are also against the rules. Davis Cup should definitely look into this situation.

Tennis Truth
04-21-2011, 11:31 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/tennis/news?slug=ap-daviscup-spain

LONDON (AP)—Davis Cup organizers unanimously rejected an appeal by Spain on Thursday over the choice of playing surface by the United States for the quarterfinal in July, saying it complies with competition regulations.

DjokerIsTheBest
04-21-2011, 11:40 AM
Again...just like in many places in this world we live in.

Yeah, but Romania like many other eastern european nations is still particularly living in the stone ages.

aphex
04-21-2011, 12:03 PM
Yeah, but Romania like many other eastern european nations is still particularly living in the stone ages.

Certainly not as useless a stone as your brain seems to be.

namelessone
04-21-2011, 12:29 PM
Yeah, but Romania like many other eastern european nations is still particularly living in the stone ages.

http://www.withoutatraceroute.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/facepalm.jpg

0d1n
04-21-2011, 12:29 PM
Yeah, but Romania like many other eastern european nations is still particularly living in the stone ages.

Yeh, I must have a cat 5 network cable coming out of the wall of my cave, then entering my stone wireless router and I'm replying to your idiotic post from the keyboard of a stone Dell Latitude while lying down on a bloody bear skin rug eating some bear meat and killing some fleas on my hairy belly.
Bugger off you moron, you are not worth talking to...

15_ounce
04-21-2011, 05:52 PM
ITF rejects Spain's appeal of U.S. surface choice
AP - Thursday, April 21, 2011




LONDON (AP)—Davis Cup organizers unanimously rejected an appeal by Spain on Thursday over the choice of playing surface by the United States for the quarterfinal in July, saying it complies with competition regulations.

The Spanish Tennis Federation disputed the use of the surface, better known as Indoor Hard Premiere. The federation said it is not on the list of 91 manufacturers approved by the International Tennis Federation and “fraudulently infringes” Davis Cup rules.

But the ITF’s three-member Davis Cup Committee gave the Americans the go-ahead, saying its “Acrylic, which is used in over 30 tour events and two Grand Slam tournaments.”

As usual, the pace of the court will be tested with a match ball once it is laid and available for play.

The July 8-10 quarterfinal will be held in Austin, Texas.

Spain has won the Davis Cup four times since 2000, while the U.S. has won a record 32 times.

http://www.tennis.com/articles/templates/?a=11587&z=25

TMF
04-21-2011, 05:58 PM
Spain should stop acting like they have the authority over tennis. It's a global sport and no nation has any upper hand over the others. All should be treated equal whether it's a small country like Belgium or large as Russia.

Bartelby
04-21-2011, 06:01 PM
They had the right to appeal and had some sort of case, but they lost.

Bartelby
04-21-2011, 06:02 PM
It should be fascinating to see Spain play the US on a lightning fast court.

Manus Domini
04-21-2011, 06:34 PM
hopefully as fast as the courts used to be, with fast balls

mellowyellow
04-22-2011, 05:27 AM
Spain should stop acting like they have the authority over tennis. It's a global sport and no nation has any upper hand over the others. All should be treated equal whether it's a small country like Belgium or large as Russia.

This is simply not the case, clearly they have got a homogenization of all court surfaces by "boycotting" wimby for decades. Now every surface plays the same in general, as evidenced by the sucess of all Spaniards on practically every surface. They are just planning for the future upstarts:)

tideronthehooch
04-22-2011, 06:05 AM
Of course, Spain never toys with the red clay by watering it to death and making it like playing in mud...

Tennisworld
04-22-2011, 06:16 AM
It is not new, but sad for tennis, that Spain, Nadal and his uncle Toni think they are bigger than the sport itself. That is why they are and were always whining about the court speed. I have read, that the US Open will be slowed down this year, I hope it is not the case. Otherwise I would assume that the sport is controlled by the mafia now.

cucio
04-22-2011, 06:26 AM
This thread is calling for the talents of our resident photoshop wizards.

http://images.wikia.com/residentevil/images/3/30/RE_TUC.jpg

sureshs
04-22-2011, 07:24 AM
Imagine the shame if Roddick now loses to Nadal

BrooklynNY
04-22-2011, 07:26 AM
Imagine the shame if Roddick now loses to Nadal

Do you mean When? 6-7 6-7?