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Bud
04-21-2011, 02:21 PM
Nadal's current clay court streak now stands at 32 consecutive match wins :)

Latest victory - Nadal d. Monfils in the QF at the Barcelona Open

Last loss - 2009 FO round of 16 to Robin Soderling

Next up 33!

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Overall record on clay - 211/16 (92.95%)

Bud
04-21-2011, 02:25 PM
Men's Clay Court Winning Streaks:

81 - Rafael Nadal - April 2005 to May 2007 (25 months)
53 - Guillermo Vilas - May to September 1977 (4 months)
46 - Bjorn Borg - October 1977 to May 1979 (19 months)
40 - Thomas Muster - February to June 1995 (4 months)
38 - Thomas Muster - August 1995 to April 1996 (8 months)
38 - Ilie Nastase - May to October 1973 (5 months)

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31 - Rafael Nadal - December 2009 to Current / April 2011 (16 months)

DjokerIsTheBest
04-21-2011, 02:26 PM
Thread disruption tactic.

nadalbestclass
04-21-2011, 02:29 PM
Don't jinx it Bud :(

DjokerIsTheBest
04-21-2011, 02:32 PM
Yeah Buddddd, don't jinx it. Ok time to wait for the tooth fairy, I is expecting a bright shiny quarter!

Bud
04-21-2011, 02:36 PM
Don't jinx it Bud :(

I'm not superstitious :wink:

Sid_Vicious
04-21-2011, 03:16 PM
Djokovic is going to snap it.

Bud
04-21-2011, 03:41 PM
Djokovic is going to snap it.

If so, you're welcome to return here and gloat about it :mrgreen:

RedGuitar
04-21-2011, 03:57 PM
53 - Guillermo Vilas - May to September 1977 (4 months)


How could he play (and win) 53 clay court matches in just 4 months?

And why did Rafa win 81 matches on clay in roughly the same time in which he has now won just 31?

Bud
04-21-2011, 04:09 PM
How could he play (and win) 53 clay court matches in just 4 months?

And why did Rafa win 81 matches on clay in roughly the same time in which he has now won just 31?

Without researching it, I'm assuming Vilas played a hell of alot of tournaments in a very short span of time :)

Nadal played more clay court tournaments early on. Between April of 2005 and May of 2007, he won 13 consecutive tournaments and was the finalist in the 14th. He also played Davis Cup on clay. In the past few years, Nadal has only played 22 to 27 matches per year on clay.

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Nadal's total number of CC matches by year:

2002 - 02
2003 - 17
2004 - 17
2005 - 52 ◄
2006 - 26
2007 - 32
2008 - 25
2009 - 26
2010 - 22
2011 - 07 (so far)

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If he goes undefeated in 2011, he'll be at 49 consecutive matches on clay.

nadalbestclass
04-21-2011, 04:10 PM
How could he play (and win) 53 clay court matches in just 4 months?

And why did Rafa win 81 matches on clay in roughly the same time in which he has now won just 31?

Cuz he won like 8 clay tournaments in 2005

Bud
04-21-2011, 04:16 PM
Cuz he won like 8 clay tournaments in 2005

Yes, he won 8 CC events in the span of 4-5 months and was a finalist in the 9th (losing to Nastase)

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Vi/G/Guillermo-Vilas.aspx?t=pa&y=1977&m=s&e=0#

bolo
04-21-2011, 04:17 PM
Without researching it, I'm assuming Vilas played a hell of alot of tournaments in a very short span of time :)

Nadal played more clay court tournaments early on. Between April of 2005 and May of 2007, he won 13 consecutive tournaments and was the finalist in the 14th. He also played Davis Cup on clay. Now, he just plays 22 to 27 matches per year on clay.

If he goes undefeated in 2011, he'll be at 49 consecutive matches on clay.

IIRC nadal started his new streak on clay towards the end of 2009 in DC against berdcyh. So starting the new streak in may 2009 isn't right.

Mustard
04-21-2011, 04:23 PM
Guillermo Vilas' 53 match winning streak on clay in 1977 is listed below. The streak was ended controversially by Ilie Nastase, who used a spaghetti strung racquet that put abnormal power and spins on the ball, and Vilas retired from the match in protest when 2 sets down in a best of 5 sets match. After this match, the spaghetti strung racquet was banned and Vilas won another 21 clay-court matches in a row.

1977 French Open 23rd May 1977 Clay Draw: 128
Round of 128: Guillermo Vilas def. Zeljko Franulovic 6-1 6-2 6-4
Round of 64: Guillermo Vilas def. Belus Prajoux 2-6 6-0 6-3 6-0
Round of 32: Guillermo Vilas def. Bernard Mitton 6-1 6-4 6-2
Round of 16: Guillermo Vilas def. Stan Smith 6-1 6-2 6-1
Quarter Final: Guillermo Vilas def. Wojtek Fibak 6-4 6-0 6-4
Semi Final: Guillermo Vilas def. Raul Ramirez 6-2 6-0 6-3
Final: Guillermo Vilas def. Brian Gottfried 6-0 6-3 6-0

1977 Kitzbuhel 11th Jul 1977 Clay Draw: 32
Round of 32: Guillermo Vilas def. Alvin Gardiner 7-5 6-3
Round of 16: Guillermo Vilas def. Ramiro Benavides 6-1 6-3
Quarter Final: Guillermo Vilas def. Buster C. Mottram 6-4 6-1
Semi Final: Guillermo Vilas def. Zeljko Franulovic 6-2 7-5
Final: Guillermo Vilas def. Jan Kodes 5-7 6-2 4-6 6-3 6-2

1977 Washington DC 18th Jul 1977 Clay Draw: 64
Round of 64: Guillermo Vilas def. Larry Gottfried 6-2 6-4
Round of 32: Guillermo Vilas def. Van Winitsky 6-4 6-1
Round of 16: Guillermo Vilas def. Victor Pecci 6-3 6-7 6-1
Quarter Final: Guillermo Vilas def. Ricardo Cano 6-2 6-3
Semi Final: Guillermo Vilas def. Eddie Dibbs 7-6 6-2
Final: Guillermo Vilas def. Brian Gottfried 6-4 7-5

1977 Louisville 25th Jul 1977 Clay Draw: 64
Round of 64: Guillermo Vilas def. Frank Gebert 4-6 6-2 6-3
Round of 32: Guillermo Vilas def. Tim Gullikson 6-3 6-3
Round of 16: Guillermo Vilas def. Brian Fairlie 6-4 6-2
Quarter Final: Guillermo Vilas def. Ion Tiriac 6-0 6-1
Semi Final: Guillermo Vilas def. Phil Dent 5-7 6-2 6-1
Final: Guillermo Vilas def. Eddie Dibbs 1-6 6-0 6-1

1977 South Orange 31st Jul 1977 Clay Draw: 32
Round of 32: Guillermo Vilas def. Colin Dibley 6-4 6-1
Round of 16: Guillermo Vilas def. Peter Fleming 6-1 6-7 6-1
Quarter Final: Guillermo Vilas def. Jeff Borowiak 6-3 7-5
Semi Final: Guillermo Vilas def. John McEnroe 6-2 2-6 6-0
Final: Guillermo Vilas def. Roscoe Tanner 6-4 6-1

1977 Columbus 8th Aug 1977 Clay Draw: 64
Round of 64: Guillermo Vilas def. Keith Richardson 7-6 7-5
Round of 32: Guillermo Vilas def. Nikola Spear 6-4 6-2
Round of 16: Guillermo Vilas def. Brian Fairlie 6-3 6-1
Quarter Final: Guillermo Vilas def. Tim Gullikson 6-4 6-4
Semi Final: Guillermo Vilas def. Billy Martin 6-0 6-2
Final: Guillermo Vilas def. Brian Gottfried 6-2 6-1

1977 US Open 31st Aug 1977 Clay Draw: 128
Round of 128: Guillermo Vilas def. Manuel Santana 6-1 6-0
Round of 64: Guillermo Vilas def. Gene Mayer 6-3 6-0
Round of 32: Guillermo Vilas def. Victor Amaya 6-3 6-3
Round of 16: Guillermo Vilas def. Jose Higueras 6-3 6-1
Quarter Final: Guillermo Vilas def. Raymond Moore 6-1 6-1 6-0
Semi Final: Guillermo Vilas def. Harold Solomon 6-2 7-6 6-2
Final: Guillermo Vilas def. Jimmy Connors 2-6 6-3 7-6 6-0

1977 Davis Cup IZ-SF 14th Sep 1977 Clay Argentina 2-3 Australia
1st Rubber: Guillermo Vilas def. Phil Dent 6-2 4-6 7-5 6-3
5th Rubber: Guillermo Vilas def. John Alexander 6-4 7-5 4-6 6-2

1977 Paris Outdoor 19th Sep 1977 Clay Draw: 32
Round of 32: Guillermo Vilas def. Deon Joubert 6-0 6-2
Round of 16: Guillermo Vilas def. Jairo Velasco Sr. 6-3 6-0
Quarter Final: Guillermo Vilas def. Hans Gildemeister 6-1 6-2
Semi Final: Guillermo Vilas def. Patrick Proisy 3-6 6-2 5-7 6-1 6-2
Final: Guillermo Vilas def. Christophe Roger-Vasselin 6-2 6-1 7-6

1977 Aix-en-Provence 26th Sep 1977 Clay Draw: 32
Round of 32: Guillermo Vilas def. Lars Elvstrom 6-1 6-0
Round of 16: Guillermo Vilas def. Peter McNamara 1-6 6-4 6-3
Quarter Final: Guillermo Vilas def. Jose Higueras 7-6 7-5
Semi Final: Guillermo Vilas def. Eric Deblicker 6-4 6-7 6-7 6-3 6-1
Final: Ilie Nastase def. Guillermo Vilas 6-1 7-5 ret.

Bud
04-21-2011, 04:24 PM
IIRC nadal started his new streak on clay towards the end of 2009 in DC against berdcyh. So starting the new streak in may 2009 isn't right.

Yes, silly on my part. I recorded the month (lost on 05/31/09) in which he lost to Soderling :|

Should have been December 2009

Bud
04-21-2011, 04:30 PM
Guillermo Vilas' 53 match winning streak on clay in 1977 is listed below. The streak was ended controversially by Ilie Nastase, who used a spaghetti strung racquet that put abnormal power and spins on the ball, and Vilas retired from the match in protest when 2 sets down in a best of 5 sets match. After this match, the spaghetti strung racquet was banned and Vilas won another 21 clay-court matches in a row.

Thanks for the tidbit of trivia, Mustard!

Mustard
04-21-2011, 04:31 PM
Rafael Nadal's 81 match winning streak on clay from April 2005 to May 2007, is listed below:

2005 Monte Carlo Masters 11th Apr 2005 Clay Draw: 64
Round of 64: Rafael Nadal def. Gael Monfils 6-3 6-2
Round of 32: Rafael Nadal def. Xavier Malisse 6-0 6-3
Round of 16: Rafael Nadal def. Olivier Rochus 6-1 6-2
Quarter Final: Rafael Nadal def. Gaston Gaudio 6-3 6-0
Semi Final: Rafael Nadal def. Richard Gasquet 6-7 6-4 6-3
Final: Rafael Nadal def. Guillermo Coria 6-3 6-1 0-6 7-5

2005 Barcelona 18th Apr 2005 Clay Draw: 56
Round of 64: BYE
Round of 32: Rafael Nadal def. Gilles Muller 6-0 6-2
Round of 16: Rafael Nadal def. Dominik Hrbaty 6-1 6-2
Quarter Final: Rafael Nadal def. Agustin Calleri 6-2 3-0 ret.
Semi Final: Rafael Nadal def. Radek Stepanek 7-5 6-2
Final: Rafael Nadal def. Juan Carlos Ferrero 6-1 7-6 6-3

2005 Rome Masters 2nd May 2005 Clay Draw: 64
Round of 64: Rafael Nadal def. Mikhail Youzhny 6-0 6-2
Round of 32: Rafael Nadal def. Victor Hanescu 6-1 6-1
Round of 16: Rafael Nadal def. Guillermo Canas 6-3 6-1
Quarter Final: Rafael Nadal def. Radek Stepanek 5-7 6-1 6-1
Semi Final: Rafael Nadal def. David Ferrer 4-6 6-4 7-5
Final: Rafael Nadal def. Guillermo Coria 6-4 3-6 6-3 4-6 7-6

2005 French Open 23rd May 2005 Clay Draw: 128
Round of 128: Rafael Nadal def. Lars Burgsmuller 6-1 7-6 6-1
Round of 64: Rafael Nadal def. Xavier Malisse 6-2 6-2 6-4
Round of 32: Rafael Nadal def. Richard Gasquet 6-4 6-3 6-2
Round of 16: Rafael Nadal def. Sebastien Grosjean 6-4 3-6 6-0 6-3
Quarter Final: Rafael Nadal def. David Ferrer 7-5 6-2 6-0
Semi Final: Rafael Nadal def. Roger Federer 6-3 4-6 6-4 6-3
Final: Rafael Nadal def. Mariano Puerta 6-7 6-3 6-1 7-5

2005 Bastad 4th Jul 2005 Clay Draw: 32
Round of 32: Rafael Nadal def. Juan Monaco 6-1 6-1
Round of 16: Rafael Nadal def. Alberto Martin 6-2 6-4
Quarter Final: Rafael Nadal def. Juan Carlos Ferrero 6-3 6-3
Semi Final: Rafael Nadal def. Tommy Robredo 6-3 6-3
Final: Rafael Nadal def. Tomas Berdych 2-6 6-2 6-4

2005 Stuttgart 18th Jul 2005 Clay Draw: 48
Round of 64: BYE
Round of 32: Rafael Nadal def. Hugo Armando 6-1 6-2
Round of 16: Rafael Nadal def. Fernando Verdasco 6-3 6-2
Quarter Final: Rafael Nadal def. Tomas Zib 6-2 6-1
Semi Final: Rafael Nadal def. Jarkko Nieminen 6-2 7-5
Final: Rafael Nadal def. Gaston Gaudio 6-3 6-3 6-4

2005 Davis Cup WGPO 23rd Sep 2005 Clay Italy 2-3 Spain
2nd Rubber: Rafael Nadal def. Daniele Bracciali 6-3 6-2 6-1
4th Rubber: Rafael Nadal def. Andreas Seppi 6-1 6-2 5-7 6-4

2006 Monte Carlo Masters 17th Apr 2006 Clay Draw: 64
Round of 64: Rafael Nadal def. Arnaud Clement 6-4 6-4
Round of 32: Rafael Nadal def. Jean-Rene Lisnard 6-4 6-1
Round of 16: Rafael Nadal def. Kristof Vliegen 6-3 6-3
Quarter Final: Rafael Nadal def. Guillermo Coria 6-2 6-1
Semi Final: Rafael Nadal def. Gaston Gaudio 5-7 6-1 6-1
Final: Rafael Nadal def. Roger Federer 6-2 6-7 6-3 7-6

2006 Barcelona 24th Apr 2006 Clay Draw: 56
Round of 64: BYE
Round of 32: Rafael Nadal def. Feliciano Lopez 6-4 6-2
Round of 16: Rafael Nadal def. Ivan Navarro 6-4 6-2
Quarter Final: Rafael Nadal def. Jarkko Nieminen 4-6 6-4 6-3
Semi Final: Rafael Nadal def. Nicolas Almagro 7-6 6-3
Final: Rafael Nadal def. Tommy Robredo 6-4 6-4 6-0

2006 Rome Masters 8th May 2006 Clay Draw: 64
Round of 64: Rafael Nadal def. Carlos Moya 6-1 2-6 6-2
Round of 32: Rafael Nadal def. Filippo Volandri 6-1 6-2
Round of 16: Rafael Nadal def. Tim Henman 6-2 6-2
Quarter Final: Rafael Nadal def. Fernando Gonzalez 6-4 6-3
Semi Final: Rafael Nadal def. Gael Monfils 6-2 6-2
Final: Rafael Nadal def. Roger Federer 6-7 7-6 6-4 2-6 7-6

2006 French Open 29th May 2006 Clay Draw: 128
Round of 128: Rafael Nadal def. Robin Soderling 6-2 7-5 6-1
Round of 64: Rafael Nadal def. Kevin Kim 6-2 6-1 6-4
Round of 32: Rafael Nadal def. Paul-Henri Mathieu 5-7 6-4 6-4 6-4
Round of 16: Rafael Nadal def. Lleyton Hewitt 6-2 5-7 6-4 6-2
Quarter Final: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic 6-4 6-4 ret.
Semi Final: Rafael Nadal def. Ivan Ljubicic 6-4 6-2 7-6
Final: Rafael Nadal def. Roger Federer 1-6 6-1 6-4 7-6

2006 Davis Cup WGPO 22nd Sep 2006 Clay Spain 4-1 Italy
2nd Rubber: Rafael Nadal def. Andreas Seppi 6-0 6-4 6-3
4th Rubber: Rafael Nadal def. Filippo Volandri 3-6 7-5 6-3 6-3

2007 Monte Carlo Masters 15th Apr 2007 Clay Draw: 56
Round of 64: BYE
Round of 32: Rafael Nadal def. Juan Ignacio Chela 6-3 6-1
Round of 16: Rafael Nadal def. Kristof Vliegen 6-1 6-1
Quarter Final: Rafael Nadal def. Philipp Kohlschreiber 6-2 6-3
Semi Final: Rafael Nadal def. Tomas Berdych 6-0 7-5
Final: Rafael Nadal def. Roger Federer 6-4 6-4

2007 Barcelona 23rd Apr 2007 Clay Draw: 56
Round of 64: BYE
Round of 32: Rafael Nadal def. Kristof Vliegen 6-1 6-2
Round of 16: Rafael Nadal def. Thomas Johansson 6-1 6-4
Quarter Final: Rafael Nadal def. Potito Starace 6-2 7-5
Semi Final: Rafael Nadal def. David Ferrer 7-5 6-1
Final: Rafael Nadal def. Guillermo Canas 6-3 6-4

2007 Rome Masters 7th May 2007 Clay Draw: 56
Round of 64: BYE
Round of 32: Rafael Nadal def. Daniele Bracciali 6-4 6-2
Round of 16: Rafael Nadal def. Mikhail Youzhny 6-2 6-2
Quarter Final: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic 6-2 6-3
Semi Final: Rafael Nadal def. Nikolay Davydenko 7-6 6-7 6-4
Final: Rafael Nadal def. Fernando Gonzalez 6-2 6-2

2007 Hamburg Masters 14th May 2007 Clay Draw: 56
Round of 64: BYE
Round of 32: Rafael Nadal def. Oscar Hernandez 7-5 6-1
Round of 16: Rafael Nadal def. Igor Andreev 6-4 6-1
Quarter Final: Rafael Nadal def. Fernando Gonzalez 6-4 6-4
Semi Final: Rafael Nadal def. Lleyton Hewitt 2-6 6-3 7-5
Final: Roger Federer def. Rafael Nadal 2-6 6-2 6-0

Hitman
04-22-2011, 04:24 AM
Interestingly, Nadal has had two impressive clay court winning streaks. Both coming to an end at the hands of Federer. Is there is a possibility for a three-peat - no matter how unlikely it may seem?

Gizo
04-22-2011, 04:32 AM
Yes from Hamburg 2008 to Madrid 2009, Nadal had a streak of 33 consecutive clay court victories in a row.

aphex
04-22-2011, 05:19 AM
Round of 16: Guillermo Vilas def. Peter McNamara 1-6 6-4 6-3
Quarter Final:

Is that Dimitrov's coach?

Mustard
04-22-2011, 05:53 AM
Is that Dimitrov's coach?

Yes............

aphex
04-22-2011, 06:05 AM
Draw: 64[/U][/B]
Round of 64: Guillermo Vilas def. Keith Richardson 7-6 7-5
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Is that the Rolling Stones' guitarist?

batz
04-22-2011, 06:25 AM
Is that the Rolling Stones' guitarist?

Nope - that was Dave Richardson.

Semi-Pro
04-22-2011, 07:29 AM
Is that the Rolling Stones' guitarist?

You're thinking of Keith Richards (guy with a cigarettes always in his mouth) lol

Devilito
04-22-2011, 07:46 AM
Is that Dimitrov's coach?

wrong McNamara. Didn't know he played tennis, you learn something new every day
http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/vietnam/slideshow/viet-show4.jpg

Mustard
04-22-2011, 07:54 AM
Peter McNamara was one half of one of the most famous men's doubles teams, with Paul McNamee. McNamara was also something of a nemesis for a rookie Mats Wilander.

MichaelNadal
04-22-2011, 07:56 AM
I just watched the highlights from the Monfils match, Nadal looks MUCH better now and I think Barcelona was a good idea, he's FINALLY sliding and moving very well.

Mustard
04-22-2011, 07:59 AM
I just watched the highlights from the Monfils match, Nadal looks MUCH better now and I think Barcelona was a good idea, he's FINALLY sliding and moving very well.

Yes. I think it was Nadal's best match on clay this year.

jackson vile
04-22-2011, 09:50 AM
Interestingly, Nadal has had two impressive clay court winning streaks. Both coming to an end at the hands of Federer. Is there is a possibility for a three-peat - no matter how unlikely it may seem?

Absolutely, people keep writing Federer off. However, I believe that is a huge mistake. They claim it will be Novak this or Novak that, but I believe it will be Roger.

And it would be very sweet for Roger if he could do it at the FO before the final. Roger has showed us that when he desires he can bring his level back to that of his peak. With the FO and other clay court tournaments becoming faster, the tables may very well be turned on Nadal.

DjokerIsTheBest
04-22-2011, 09:54 AM
Absolutely, people keep writing Federer off. However, I believe that is a huge mistake. They claim it will be Novak this or Novak that, but I believe it will be Roger.

And it would be very sweet for Roger if he could do it at the FO before the final. Roger has showed us that when he desires he can bring his level back to that of his peak. With the FO and other clay court tournaments becoming faster, the tables may very well be turned on Nadal.

Very unlikely. Nadal just too good now at his peak.

Bud
04-22-2011, 01:24 PM
I just watched the highlights from the Monfils match, Nadal looks MUCH better now and I think Barcelona was a good idea, he's FINALLY sliding and moving very well.

I agree, completely. That was the best Nadal has looked on clay since 2010 MC.

That first set was vintage Nadal brutalizing an opponent on clay. There were a number of points that Monfils just chuckled and kinda threw up his hands. I don't know how many FH winners nadal hit in the match, but it seemed to be at least 20.

If you have a chance, re-watch the match on ESPN3

nadalbestclass
04-22-2011, 01:30 PM
^ had he done a better job with those drop shots, it would have been near perfect. No complaints tho!

Bud
04-22-2011, 01:39 PM
^ had he done a better job with those drop shots, it would have been near perfect. No complaints tho!

There were 3 dropshot attempts that were ham-handed and atypical Nadal :D

His FH more than compensated, however

TheTruth
04-22-2011, 02:00 PM
Interestingly, Nadal has had two impressive clay court winning streaks. Both coming to an end at the hands of Federer. Is there is a possibility for a three-peat - no matter how unlikely it may seem?

Funny you should say this. The thought crossed my mind a few days ago. I was thinking, everyone's talking about Novak breaking the streak, which will put a lot of pressure on Novak. Meanwhile, Fed is off preparing for the clay court season too. Then, I remembered, hey wait a minute, didn't Fed stop the last two streaks?

So, yes, it's a possibility. I'm sure Federer doesn't like being cast aside. I just hope if so, it's at Hamburg, or Madrid, definitely not at RG:).

As happy as I am that Nadal seems to be getting back on track it is not wise to write off Federer at this critical juncture.

lgbalfa
04-22-2011, 07:53 PM
muster could beat nadal in muster's prime.

Bud
04-22-2011, 09:12 PM
muster could beat nadal in muster's prime.

We'll never know ;)

TennisFan3
04-22-2011, 11:14 PM
muster could beat nadal in muster's prime.

That's debatable. If I had to put my money on one player (other than Borg) beating peak Nadal on clay it could potentially be Guga.

Kuerten wasn't as consistent day in and day out (as Nadal/Borg are), but gosh his peak tennis was devastating.

Gizo
04-23-2011, 12:16 AM
One thing I would say is that as fit as Nadal is, Muster was even fitter. In a pure fitness duel, Muster is one of the few players who could outlast Nadal. However from a technical point of view, Nadal is clearly the better player in most areas, and I think he would dominate a hypothetical head to head.

I agree that aside from Borg, Kuerten would have a better chance against Nadal than any of the other clay court greats. His serve on clay was outstanding and one of the best in history, and despite having a one handed backhand and i think that it would hold up fairly well in rallies against Nadal. Again Nadal is clearly the better player, but this match-up there could have been interesting.

miyagi
04-23-2011, 12:17 AM
muster could beat nadal in muster's prime.

I have no doubt Muster could, when you think about it Nadal has been beaten by a handful of players and some of them way below Musters level.

But could a peak Muster beat a peak Nadal? Hmmmm......

I think the answer is yes but maybe only 2 times out of 10, but its hard to know!

Tony48
04-23-2011, 12:45 AM
Men's Clay Court Winning Streaks:

81 - Rafael Nadal - April 2005 to May 2007 (25 months)
53 - Guillermo Vilas - May to September 1977 (4 months)
46 - Bjorn Borg - October 1977 to May 1979 (19 months)
40 - Thomas Muster - February to June 1995 (4 months)
38 - Thomas Muster - August 1995 to April 1996 (8 months)
38 - Ilie Nastase - May to October 1973 (5 months)

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31 - Rafael Nadal - December 2009 to Current /April 2011 (16 months)

Just doing some Wikipedia searching.

Guillermo Vilas won 2 slams in 1977 and only got to No. 2??? wtf

Also, it was possible to win 5 slams that year. lol

Hitman
04-23-2011, 03:49 AM
Funny you should say this. The thought crossed my mind a few days ago. I was thinking, everyone's talking about Novak breaking the streak, which will put a lot of pressure on Novak. Meanwhile, Fed is off preparing for the clay court season too. Then, I remembered, hey wait a minute, didn't Fed stop the last two streaks?

So, yes, it's a possibility. I'm sure Federer doesn't like being cast aside. I just hope if so, it's at Hamburg, or Madrid, definitely not at RG:).

As happy as I am that Nadal seems to be getting back on track it is not wise to write off Federer at this critical juncture.

I guess we just have to wait and see what transpires. That is what is so good about sports, the unpredictability of what is coming around the corner.

nadalbestclass
04-23-2011, 11:29 AM
I dunno if someone mentioned this, but according to the following article, Nadal has won 73 of the last 76 sets he has played on clay. :shock:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2011/04/16/Barcelona-Saturday-Nadal-Records-500th-Win.aspx

Mustard
04-23-2011, 11:42 AM
I dunno if someone mentioned this, but according to the following article, Nadal has won 73 of the last 76 sets he has played on clay. :shock:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2011/04/16/Barcelona-Saturday-Nadal-Records-500th-Win.aspx

I make it 74 out of the last 77. In the 2009 Davis Cup final, Nadal beat Berdych in 3 straight sets and Hajek in 2 straight sets (5-0 sets). In 2010, Nadal won Monte Carlo, Rome, Madrid and the French Open dropping just 2 sets in total (51-2 in sets). In 2011 so far, Nadal has won 9 matches for the loss of just 1 set (18-1 in sets).

nadalbestclass
04-23-2011, 12:07 PM
I make it 74 out of the last 77. In the 2009 Davis Cup final, Nadal beat Berdych in 3 straight sets and Hajek in 2 straight sets (5-0 sets). In 2010, Nadal won Monte Carlo, Rome, Madrid and the French Open dropping just 2 sets in total (51-2 in sets). In 2011 so far, Nadal has won 9 matches for the loss of just 1 set (18-1 in sets).

I think you have enough info to make a Rafa fact sheet. haha.

MichaelNadal
04-23-2011, 03:29 PM
I think you have enough info to make a Rafa fact sheet. haha.

Him and Bud lol :)