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MichaelNadal
05-02-2011, 11:55 AM
According to a former coach of his :shock:

"You can't go wrong with Murray. He's the best there is. He's a better player than Nadal and the other top guys. He's more explosive. He has a better backhand. He has a better serve."

http://tennis.com/articles/templates/news.aspx?articleid=11748&zoneid=25

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cknobman
05-02-2011, 12:03 PM
What you talkin bout Willis?????

That guy is smokin crack or doing some serious but kissin trying to get his job back!!!

BHud
05-02-2011, 12:05 PM
No...I am.

kishnabe
05-02-2011, 12:46 PM
I thought the best player in the world should at least win one slam!

jigar
05-02-2011, 01:09 PM
Yes he is when he is playing against his brother or coach.

nissrro
05-02-2011, 01:11 PM
hahahahahahaha funny

decades
05-02-2011, 01:13 PM
and now we know why nobody has ever heard of Pato Alvarez.

Mick
05-02-2011, 01:23 PM
"You can't go wrong with Murray. He's the best there is. He's a better player than Nadal and the other top guys. He's more explosive. He has a better backhand. He has a better serve."

if this is all true then murray must have a very weak mind otherwise, he would have been the best :)

Mainad
05-02-2011, 01:34 PM
"You can't go wrong with Murray. He's the best there is. He's a better player than Nadal and the other top guys. He's more explosive. He has a better backhand. He has a better serve."

if this is all true then murray must have a very weak mind otherwise, he would have been the best :)

You nailed it.Murray's mental attitude and focus, has often been the weakest part of his game,especially when playing in Grand Slam finals! Of course this is only relative to the top 3 players (Rafa,Fed and Djoko) who happen to be the only guys he's played in Grand Slam finals.His mental attitude may be weaker than their's but it can still knock spots off pretty nearly everybody else!

(Except maybe Donald Young and Alex Bogomolov...lol! ) :)

Murrayfan31
05-02-2011, 01:35 PM
Well he is right. Murray is better than Nadal.

tenis1
05-02-2011, 02:17 PM
Well he is right. Murray is better than Nadal.

But he is not better than the King.

marc45
05-02-2011, 02:34 PM
But he is not better than the King.

who's the king, can you even say it?

boredone3456
05-02-2011, 02:34 PM
which is why he has all those major titles in his cabinet....oh wait

cc0509
05-02-2011, 02:55 PM
I would not say he is the best in the world but he is definitely top 5 material and who knows how far he could go IF, and it is a big IF, he can get his mental game together. He actually really impressed me in that MC match with Nadal. He has the game to beat all the top guys. He just needs to believe in himself more and not get down on himself.

tenis1
05-02-2011, 03:41 PM
who's the king, can you even say it?

What do you mean who is the King? Isn't it obvious. Ask Yoda. He knows the best.

dominikk1985
05-02-2011, 04:46 PM
"You can't go wrong with Murray. He's the best there is. He's a better player than Nadal and the other top guys. He's more explosive. He has a better backhand. He has a better serve."

if this is all true then murray must have a very weak mind otherwise, he would have been the best :)

yes. murray is a very good player. he has plenty of power and can really whack the ball but unfortunately he likes to play a pusher game too much (unless his elbow is hurt:D) especially in tight situations.

he should go for it more then he can win slams.

pjonesy
05-02-2011, 05:07 PM
At times he seems to have really figured out how to compete on clay. He moves well on clay, defends well on any surface and seems to pull an offensive shot out of nowhere on the dirt. Honestly, clay may be where he plays his best tennis this year. Murray may disguise his intentions better any other player, but he is still not going to beat Nadal on red clay. Federer, Nadal and Djokovic are all more talented. They all have more effective game styles, strategy and possess more confidence under pressure. How do I know this? Because they win majors and Murray doesn't.

But I do believe he is one of the most gifted players at running down balls, staying calm and controlling balls that seem impossible to even get to (much less win the point). I would say that he and Nadal are the most effective in those situations.

Cassius Clay
05-02-2011, 05:23 PM
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1970CRBase
05-02-2011, 05:31 PM
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accidental
05-02-2011, 05:52 PM
Yes a better backhand and serve than Nadal is what it takes to be the best in the world. I have read this many times

cc0509
05-02-2011, 05:55 PM
Yes a better backhand and serve than Nadal is what it takes to be the best in the world. I have read this many times

If Murray had an ounce of the mental toughness that Nadal has, he would be getting somewhere.

Bobby Jr
05-02-2011, 07:27 PM
If Murray is so good how come, in all these years, he's never learned to hit his forehand down the line with more than a 10% success rate?

RoddickAce
05-02-2011, 07:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SdfhhYJsJ8&t=1m47s

MichaelNadal
05-02-2011, 09:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SdfhhYJsJ8&t=1m47s

It's funny watching that and then going 3 years forward in time when his reaction was this instead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhpJnt0SLKk&playnext=1&list=PLE304D8B8DD53F391

batz
05-02-2011, 10:13 PM
Here's an idea for the intellectuial colossuses on this site: when murray states he is the best player in the world then it's fair game to sl@g him off. Until then, how about training your fire on the idiot who said it rather than the subject of the idiocy?

Sentinel
05-02-2011, 10:37 PM
I thought the best player in the world should at least win one slam!
I hate how you experts keep upping the requirements for a player to be called the best or greatest in the world.

16 slams was not good enough, they invented H2H. Now, even H2H is not good enough. Now one is expected to win a slam. That's seven freaking games in a row, did you know that ? !!!!

AlpineCadet
05-02-2011, 10:42 PM
I also think Murray is top dawg, werd up meng. Just don't link me on here or start a thread about it, I'm too busy reveling in the buzz to even respond. Unsubscribed.

cypher
05-02-2011, 11:18 PM
According to a former coach of his :shock:

"You can't go wrong with Murray. He's the best there is. He's a better player than Nadal and the other top guys. He's more explosive. He has a better backhand. He has a better serve."

http://tennis.com/articles/templates/news.aspx?articleid=11748&zoneid=25

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZgS_VCD2GU

Here's an idea for the intellectuial colossuses on this site: when murray states he is the best player in the world then it's fair game to sl@g him off. Until then, how about training your fire on the idiot who said it rather than the subject of the idiocy?

Has there really been that much ****ging off yet?

TennisFan3
05-03-2011, 12:24 AM
Can I please have what Murray's coach is having? He must be smoking some really good stuff.

Federer/Nadal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Murray
Djokovic >>>>>>>>> Murray
Delpo >>>>> Murray

Gorecki
05-03-2011, 01:33 AM
http://www.hot.ee/bond007jamesbond/K16%20-%20Hugo%20%20Drax.JPG

tenis1
05-03-2011, 04:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SdfhhYJsJ8&t=1m47s
It's funny watching that and then going 3 years forward in time when his reaction was this instead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhpJnt0SLKk&playnext=1&list=PLE304D8B8DD53F391

How and why this thread turned into Novak bashing now :shock:

Sentinel
05-03-2011, 04:48 AM
At Monte Carlo, Murray was the best injured player in the world. I've never seen an injured Nadal take a set off the #1 player, for instance. Even The King would retire if not totally fit. Only Murray can beat the #1 while dizzy, and numbed with cortisone and anesthetics.

Mainad
05-03-2011, 06:05 AM
Can I please have what Murray's coach is having? He must be smoking some really good stuff.

Federer/Nadal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Murray
Djokovic >>>>>>>>> Murray
Delpo >>>>> Murray


Delpo??? Murray owns Delpo!!!

H2H Murray 5 - Delpo 1 (with 3 of those wins coming in 2009 when Delpo was at the height of his form!).

PS.He kinda owns Fed a bit too (H2H 8-6 including beating him 2 of out of the last 3 times they met).

He used to own Djoko too winning their 3 previous meetings back to back in straight sets up until meeting the new,improved version at the final of this year's Aussie Open.(But then,nobody else has been able to handle the new,improved Djoko so far)!

cknobman
05-03-2011, 06:16 AM
Delpo??? Murray owns Delpo!!!

H2H Murray 5 - Delpo 1 (with 3 of those wins coming in 2009 when Delpo was at the height of his form!).

PS.He kinda owns Fed a bit too (H2H 8-6 including beating him 2 of out of the last 3 times they met).

He used to own Djoko too winning their 3 previous meetings back to back in straight sets up until meeting the new,improved version at the final of this year's Aussie Open.(But then,nobody else has been able to handle the new,improved Djoko so far)!

And all of that means jack diddly when Murray gets crushed repeatedly in Grand Slam finals!!!!

Thats right how many GS titles does Murray have? Oh, zero you say; then how in the h3ll can he even be mentioned as a candidate for best player in the world???

To anyone who thinks Murray is the best player in the world get of the LSD it is making you hallucinate!!!!

Andres
05-03-2011, 06:18 AM
Delpo??? Murray owns Delpo!!!

H2H Murray 5 - Delpo 1 (with 3 of those wins coming in 2009 when Delpo was at the height of his form!).

PS.He kinda owns Fed a bit too (H2H 8-6 including beating him 2 of out of the last 3 times they met).

He used to own Djoko too winning their 3 previous meetings back to back in straight sets up until meeting the new,improved version at the final of this year's Aussie Open.(But then,nobody else has been able to handle the new,improved Djoko so far)!
Del Potro owns a Slam title. Murray does not.

Mainad
05-03-2011, 07:20 AM
And all of that means jack diddly when Murray gets crushed repeatedly in Grand Slam finals!!!!

If we're just talking about Grand Slams,then you should've said!


Thats right how many GS titles does Murray have? Oh, zero you say; then how in the h3ll can he even be mentioned as a candidate for best player in the world???


I'm not the one trying to say he's the best in the world! All I was doing was defending his record against the top 3 and Delpo when it was implied he was a much worse player than any of them.Of course their Slam records are all indisputably superior to his but then so is Roddick's,Hewitt's and Ferrero's.Does that make them better players on their current form than Murray?


To anyone who thinks Murray is the best player in the world get of the LSD it is making you hallucinate!!!!

The best player in the world is Nadal folllowed by Djokovic and then Federer because that's what the rankings say.Murray comes in at No.4!

cknobman
05-03-2011, 09:46 AM
The best player in the world is Nadal folllowed by Djokovic and then Federer because that's what the rankings say.Murray comes in at No.4!

I agree completely.

Bryan Swartz
05-03-2011, 10:02 AM
There's a difference between 'best' and most accomplished over the last 12 months. A player's precise level of excellence varies day to day.

Nextman916
05-03-2011, 10:09 AM
Murray is still evolving to his prime, he's reached 3 GS finals already as an developing player. Mentally we all know he isn't prime yet but he's still cultivating his weapons, and he's still got alot of game. You can't say the same for Djoker or Nadal at this point which are both in there primes.

I'm not saying Murray is better than Nad/fed/djok but his game allows himself a lot more room to grow right now.

sphinx780
05-03-2011, 12:14 PM
^well, some people do develop slower.

I agree he is still developing where Djok and Nadal have both found their games by the same age.

Of course, I think the tour is full of players with weapons that can't seem to put the whole package together. I hope Murray can find it because it'd be much more intriguing to see each of these players being consistently dangerous against each other.

vive le beau jeu !
05-03-2011, 12:49 PM
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namelessone
05-03-2011, 12:53 PM
Murray is the best player in the world. On the PS3 that is. :)

sureshs
05-03-2011, 01:25 PM
http://box4.chakpak.com:9080/articles/wp-content/files_flutter/1303108806SunnyDeol.jpg

Seen that guy somewhere

AlpineCadet
05-03-2011, 01:26 PM
Seen that guy somewhere
Yeah, it's Nadal in 20 years.

Mick
05-03-2011, 01:38 PM
he's a bad guy from a james bond movie (moonraker)

Gorecki
05-03-2011, 01:52 PM
Seen that guy somewhere

http://www.iol.co.za/polopoly_fs/federer-iw-1.1040106!/image/4115336372.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_300/4115336372.jpg

Federer: that is not Rusty Awol is he?

NadalAgassi
05-03-2011, 02:25 PM
Well he is right. Murray is better than Nadal.

At what, playstation.

NadalAgassi
05-03-2011, 02:27 PM
Delpo??? Murray owns Delpo!!!

H2H Murray 5 - Delpo 1 (with 3 of those wins coming in 2009 when Delpo was at the height of his form!).

PS.He kinda owns Fed a bit too (H2H 8-6 including beating him 2 of out of the last 3 times they met).

He used to own Djoko too winning their 3 previous meetings back to back in straight sets up until meeting the new,improved version at the final of this year's Aussie Open.(But then,nobody else has been able to handle the new,improved Djoko so far)!

Djokovic has ended every single year ranekd higher than Murray. Djokovic has never had a career losing record vs Murray. Djokovic has had better slam results than Murray every single year. Djokovic has always been a far superior player to mopey Murray. And dont even get me started on Federer or Nadal, Murray isnt worthy of kissing their feet.

Heracles
05-03-2011, 02:33 PM
He is not until he proves it.

Personnally I think that Murray is a great player but not the best player in the world. Nadal is.

Murray has a few problems:

1) His forehand is not great and usually you need a top class forehand to reach the top.

2) He is prone to be upset in early rounds for no reasons.

3) He is not clutch, his 3 finals of GS have been a disaster for him and the last one was just ridiculousely bad. He totally missed his match.

And to say that he is better than Nadal, who has 9 slams , way more MS and who is 10-4 against him is a joke.

vive le beau jeu !
05-03-2011, 03:06 PM
http://www.iol.co.za/polopoly_fs/federer-iw-1.1040106!/image/4115336372.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_300/4115336372.jpg

Federer: that is not Rusty Awol is he?
http://i52.tinypic.com/maje6t.jpg

Mainad
05-03-2011, 04:19 PM
Djokovic has ended every single year ranekd higher than Murray. Djokovic has never had a career losing record vs Murray. Djokovic has had better slam results than Murray every single year.


Yep,fair point.


Djokovic has always been a far superior player to mopey Murray.


Always?? I guess someone must have forgot to remind 'mopey' Murray of this when he beat 'always far superior Djokovic' in straight sets at the quarter-finals of the Canadian Masters in 2008 and then so far forgot his place to have the cheek to do it on the next two occasions they met at the finals of the Cincinnati Masters a month later and again at Miami in 2009! Agreed,Djoko has proved far superior this year just as he has to pretty nearly everybody else!


And dont even get me started on Federer or Nadal, Murray isnt worthy of kissing their feet.

Woe,what a disgrace it must be to Federer to have lost 8 out of his 14 matches against a player who 'isn't worthy of kissing his feet' and to Nadal to allow himself to be beaten by His Mopiness twice in Grand Slams (2008 US Open semis and 2010 AO quarters).Tsk tsk tsk! :oops:

NadalAgassi
05-03-2011, 04:55 PM
Always?? I guess someone must have forgot to remind 'mopey' Murray of this when he beat 'always far superior Djokovic' in straight sets at the quarter-finals of the Canadian Masters in 2008 and then so far forgot his place to have the cheek to do it on the next two occasions they met at the finals of the Cincinnati Masters a month later and again at Miami in 2009! Agreed,Djoko has proved far superior this year just as he has to pretty nearly everybody else!


I doubt Djokovic is losing any sleep about losing to Murray in a couple past Masters matches when he has continued to be ranked higher than Murray, continued to outperform Murray in slams, and thumped Murray in embarassing fashion in their biggest ever match. If you want to focus just on head to head which is a poor way to compare players on its own anyway, Djokovic leads the head to head, has always been tied or ahead in the head to head, and is the only one who has handed out bagel or breadstick sets. Djokovic has ALWAYS been a better player than Murray, not just this year. Murray winning an occasional match changes nothing about this reality.


Woe,what a disgrace it must be to Federer to have lost 8 out of his 14 matches against a player who 'isn't worthy of kissing his feet'

Who cares. They played two matches that really matter and Murray got destroyed in both. Not to mention one has 16 slams and the other has 0. Not to mention Murray has played only about 2 matches against Federer in his prime.

Murray preserves his head to heads against people like Federer and Djokovic from being worse than they are by losing to guys like Wawrinka, Berdych, Gonzalez, Verdasco, and a slew of others before the semifinals of slams.

and to Nadal to allow himself to be beaten by His Mopiness twice in Grand Slams (2008 US Open semis and 2010 AO quarters).Tsk tsk tsk! :oops:

9 slams to 0. Almost the same age. And since you love this head to head thing, Nadal has a huge lead in head to head and even leads the head to head on only hard courts I believe, the only surface Murray can even hope to ever beat Nadal on since the idea of it happening on clay or grass is laughable.

kishnabe
05-03-2011, 05:08 PM
http://i52.tinypic.com/maje6t.jpg

icanhazahaggis.com.....hmmm Underhand website, no?

single_handed_champion
05-03-2011, 05:35 PM
So many things wrong with this statement. For starters, the irony of it coming on the heels of straight sets losses to Baghdatis, Young and Bogmolov.