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CyberInferno
05-10-2011, 04:00 PM
I'm typically more of a reader than a poster on these forums, but I've encountered a dilemma that I believe you lovely folks can help me out with.

I play with the Babolat PDR+ Cortex. Since switching from the non-cortex version to the cortex version, I've noticed that I am cracking the frames rather easily. I've gone through five frames in six months. With the older model, I broke two total in a year and a half, and both of those breaks were due to serious abuse.

I don't claim to be kind to my racquets. All of the breaks have been due to my temper, but one of the racquets broke after literally hitting it once against the ground without excessive force. I don't feel like I've gotten any stronger or I'm being any more abusive to my racquets than normal--they just seem to be breaking more often.

To Babolat's credit, they've replaced two of racquets that showed cracks toward the upper-side(s) of the racquet. I didn't bother sending back the ones that were blatantly abuse.

I recently got another crack at the upper side of the beam (after a racquet toss that I didn't feel was particularly aggressive), so I'll be sending my last PDR+ cortex back to Babolat in hopes that they'll replace it. Even if they do, I think it's time for me to start planning my future after the PDR+ Cortex.

After a rather long introduction, my questions are two-fold. Firstly, have any of you noticed that Babolat racquets seem to be breaking more often than they used to? Secondly, can you recommend a racquet similar to the PDR+ Cortex that might be of stronger build quality. One of my friends had an old Radical that he used to literally bounce over his head or across the net, and that thing never broke. As much as I love the PDR+ Cortex, I cannot afford (time-wise or money-wise) to be breaking the frame twice per USTA season. I don't have much faith in Prince since I once broke an O3 White by accidentally hitting it against a stringer from about six inches away while pulling out a stubborn knot prior to restringing the racquet, but perhaps that one was just a lemon or Prince's o-port frames have become more solid since then (three years ago).

As a brief description of my playing style, I'm very much a baseliner with a pretty hard flat serve (110 mph on a good day), and I dance around my backhand whenever possible to play the aggressive forehand. My backhand is one-handed (I switched to 1hbh about a year and a half ago), and I probably slice it 85-90% of the time, but I'm working to build my confidence in the topspin. I'm aware that the PDR+ is not the most 1hbh-friendly racquet around, so I'm definitely open to trying new racquets! When I picked my first PDR+, I was choosing between that and the Wilson KBlade Tour (93) as my top two racquets.

Thanks so much for your help and wisdom!

okdude1992
05-10-2011, 09:18 PM
how about you don't hit your racket on the court. then you should be fine.

okdude1992
05-10-2011, 09:19 PM
but for the record, i have found that prestiges can tolerate alot of abuse

Bartelby
05-10-2011, 09:37 PM
The brand is actually Breakalot not Babolat, a common mistranslation from the French.

eidolonshinobi
05-10-2011, 09:41 PM
The brand is actually Breakalot not Babolat, a common mistranslation from the French.

lol ouch!
10 char

flashfire276
05-10-2011, 09:43 PM
The brand is actually Breakalot not Babolat, a common mistranslation from the French.

+1
10char

CyberInferno
05-13-2011, 02:31 PM
how about you don't hit your racket on the court. then you should be fine.
I've kind of given up on controlling my on-court temper I'm afraid. I need a mind coach.
but for the record, i have found that prestiges can tolerate alot of abuse
I might have to check those out. Do you know if they're comparable to the PDR at all?
The brand is actually Breakalot not Babolat, a common mistranslation from the French.
Haha I had not heard that one before.

Macro80
05-14-2011, 12:45 AM
I too changed to a single hander and that was the reason I switched away frommthe PDR, even with weight under the butt cap I couldn't get it's balance to shift enough. PDR is a great racket for serving and clubbing forehands but it's not the most maneuvrable around, check out the Speed Pro.

hunter121
05-14-2011, 03:04 AM
The brand is actually Breakalot not Babolat
http://www.primeaffiliate.com/track/images/10.jpghttp://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx229/j3iR/wind/jeromssummer_flickr_photos_848.gif

eliza
05-14-2011, 03:39 AM
How about anger management class? Because if you this to your racquet you may do it to an animal/person.......
This is serious stuff.

tenapasi
05-14-2011, 04:15 AM
How about going with less-known brand like dunlop, volkl, and yonex ?
i have a pair of yonex rdis 100 mid. One of them which is older, i was accidently dropped it a couple of time. And it still works fine.
I always take good care of my equipment. :)

Because it's quite expensive :D

eliza
05-14-2011, 04:20 AM
How about going with less-known brand like dunlop, volkl, and yonex ?
i have a pair of yonex rdis 100 mid. One of them which is older, i was accidently dropped it a couple of time. And it still works fine.
I always take good care of my equipment. :)

Because it's quite expensive :D

Dunlop "less known"????WHere do you live, on Mars???

tenapasi
05-14-2011, 04:42 AM
Dunlop "less known"????WHere do you live, on Mars???

Ah well, from my experience meeting quite many tennis players. Most of them would buy either wilson, babolat, prince or head.

less known as in brand that's not mainstream in the world of brand-minded people.

CyberInferno
05-14-2011, 06:39 AM
I too changed to a single hander and that was the reason I switched away frommthe PDR, even with weight under the butt cap I couldn't get it's balance to shift enough. PDR is a great racket for serving and clubbing forehands but it's not the most maneuvrable around, check out the Speed Pro.
I have noticed timing issues with my 1hbh. I just attributed it to my own swing rather than thinking that the racquet might have an impact. Good suggestion. By the Speed Pro, are you referring to the Head YOUTEK Speed Pro?

EDIT: I'm hoping so since that racquet can be had for less than $100 from TW!! 98" and 12.3 oz strung weight...interesting combination.
How about anger management class? Because if you this to your racquet you may do it to an animal/person.......
This is serious stuff.
I understand your concern. It's kind of strange, but this level of anger is exclusive to competition for me. I have a completely different (worse) mindset when I'm competing. My friends that watch me play tennis for the first time look at me afterward with astonishment because I'm so calm outside the court. I literally had a friend once say to me, "Who was that out there? That was kind of scary."

I guess I'm fortunate in that my anger is reserved for competition. I've never struck another human being or animal (and I have two kittens, a cat, and a dog). But I agree that I should probably look into some anger management tactics. While my anger hasn't spilled into my regular life yet, that doesn't mean it couldn't in the future.
How about going with less-known brand like dunlop, volkl, and yonex ?
i have a pair of yonex rdis 100 mid. One of them which is older, i was accidently dropped it a couple of time. And it still works fine.
I always take good care of my equipment. :)

Because it's quite expensive :D
In the heat of the moment, I forget how expensive the equipment is. Fortunately, I work at a tennis shop so I can get quite a few racquets for cost+10%, which cuts down on my expenses :)

tenapasi
05-15-2011, 06:15 AM
I understand your concern. It's kind of strange, but this level of anger is exclusive to competition for me. I have a completely different (worse) mindset when I'm competing. My friends that watch me play tennis for the first time look at me afterward with astonishment because I'm so calm outside the court. I literally had a friend once say to me, "Who was that out there? That was kind of scary."

I guess I'm fortunate in that my anger is reserved for competition. I've never struck another human being or animal (and I have two kittens, a cat, and a dog). But I agree that I should probably look into some anger management tactics. While my anger hasn't spilled into my regular life yet, that doesn't mean it couldn't in the future.


You know, based from my experience playing with quite different type of players, I conclude one thing : "Tennis shows people how they really are". No offense here, i am just sharing my experience.
These are some of the examples :
- Someone who complain to me if i i hard. But in reality, his groundstroke are no better than mine.
- Someone who put winning all above everything. Even with (very) crappy technique.
- Someone who just take it easy even they lost the match. This usually players with skills that are below their opponent.
- Someone who's cursing themselves, and even throws their stick to the ground 'cos of i beat him although i was really really tired. But outside the court, he looks calm :|
- Someone who bang his racquet to their ground 'cos of missing his forehand.

As for me, i found out that, i shouldn't play tennis if i am really tired. Else, my performance will be worst. But alas, i ignore the voice of myself :rolleyes:

Just my 0.02$ :D

Satch
05-15-2011, 06:31 AM
The brand is actually Breakalot not Babolat
http://www.primeaffiliate.com/track/images/10.jpghttp://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx229/j3iR/wind/jeromssummer_flickr_photos_848.gif

Gonzales actually picked babolat just to break it more easily :)

purple-n-gold
05-15-2011, 06:38 AM
fyi hollow rackets typically don't take kindly to abuse

CyberInferno
06-14-2011, 03:26 PM
I managed to find a couple old ProStaff 6.1's lying around in the back of my tennis shop closet that were owned by an pro who left a while ago, and I hit with them yesterday out of curiosity, having never tried a racquet this heavy other than the KSix One 90 which I absolutely hated.

I was amazed at how much I enjoyed hitting with it. I played a solid 5.0 player (I'm a 4.0-4.5 myself) and managed to lose 6-3, 6-4, which isn't great but is at least respectable. I found myself shanking fewer balls with the heavier 95-inch frame than the lighter, 100-inch PDR. I'm starting to think that super thick beam might have contributed to shanks. My timing on my one-handed backhand was surprisingly decent too. There were definitely times where I didn't get the racquet out in front in time, but I didn't feel like my swing speed was too hampered by the weight. I also felt like I was hitting my forehand pretty well too.

The only place I noticed the weight was on my serve. I struggled to hit my first serve (hard, flat) in consistently. I hit the tape a LOT. I also dumped almost every overhead into the net (but that's kind of typical of my overhead anyway). While it's obviously possible I was just having a bad serving day, my second serve (kick) actually felt pretty good with the stick.

Back to the original intent of the thread, we'll see if the racquet can hold up to my abuse, but the frame feels pretty solid, so I have good feelings about it. The frames are in good shape, but both could use new head guards. Who knows--maybe I'll just play better with this racquet and that will cure my temper :)

EDIT: I forgot to mention that the racquet is also strung with a full set of NXT 16 when I'm accustomed to hybrid RPM Blast/Gut setups, so restringing the racquet might also help me adjust to it more quickly.

CyberInferno
06-14-2011, 03:49 PM
You know, based from my experience playing with quite different type of players, I conclude one thing : "Tennis shows people how they really are". No offense here, i am just sharing my experience.
These are some of the examples :
- Someone who complain to me if i i hard. But in reality, his groundstroke are no better than mine.
- Someone who put winning all above everything. Even with (very) crappy technique.
- Someone who just take it easy even they lost the match. This usually players with skills that are below their opponent.
- Someone who's cursing themselves, and even throws their stick to the ground 'cos of i beat him although i was really really tired. But outside the court, he looks calm :|
- Someone who bang his racquet to their ground 'cos of missing his forehand.

As for me, i found out that, i shouldn't play tennis if i am really tired. Else, my performance will be worst. But alas, i ignore the voice of myself :rolleyes:

Just my 0.02$ :D
You make a good argument. I think in general you would assess me as a decent guy on the court :) I'm one that would rather lose with good sportsmanship than win without it. I'll overrule myself on line calls if I think I made the wrong call. I probably play a dozen out balls during two-set match. I also correct my opponents when they call out the wrong score (in my favor or theirs).

On the other side, I do have vocal outbursts (not profane--typically just grunts of disgust or me yelling, "Why?") and hit my racquet against the court or toss it a short distance on occasion. If I'm playing doubles, you'll never see me get frustrated at my partner's mistakes, only my own.

So I guess I'm a conflicted person in general.

edogofhe
06-14-2011, 06:45 PM
IMO, the old head rackets are stronger. It is rare to see that the old HEADs are broken.