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star 5 15
05-11-2011, 08:24 PM
The title pretty much says it all. Right now I have the option between the two but I have not ever hit with a PT57A. Right now I'm playing with the 238.1 but I'm not really sure how the pt57a relates to it or the 238.4. Let me know if you have any input and what your choice would be?

cork_screw
05-11-2011, 09:13 PM
Just imagine a pro tour 630 that is statically light and easier to swing. Same flex.

Power Player
05-11-2011, 09:16 PM
I'd pick the PT57A all day long. They are going extinct.

star 5 15
05-12-2011, 07:24 PM
I'm pretty much going out on a limb and praying here. I have decided on PT57A's. I should be getting 5-6 in the Youtek paintjob. How many I get will depend on price and how fast I can sell my old Babolats.

Anyway anyone have any details on how the PT57A relates to the TGK238.1? That's what I'm currently using...

star 5 15
09-03-2011, 05:00 PM
About 3 months later I finally got an email from my contact who is getting me these racquets so I should have 6 PT57A's with Youtek paint in the next few weeks. They're in spain right now. Looking forward to these. Only having 3 of these TGK's is tough at tournaments.

star 5 15
09-18-2011, 01:59 PM
So I have these racquets in my possession now. They didn't come with leather... they did that incorrectly but the specs I asked for are correct. The only thing is I'm not totally sure if they are PT57A or if they are TGk238.4s. I haven't hit with yet. Since they are newer they have the specs in the throat and no code, just a label printed like B094401. I think it's some sort of order number. It's the same number on all 6 racquets. Anway my point is there any obvious way to distinguish a TGK from a PT57A on a Youtek PJ. I really don't want to take the pallets off cuz that's just a pain in the *****. I'll post some pictures soon.

Edit: For the record I asked for PT57A so I really hope that's what I got.

Edit II: Lost my patience popped half of a pallet off. "TGT238.4 WT:247g BP:381mm E100"... Looks like no PT57A's for me...

movdqa
09-18-2011, 03:56 PM
That's a major disappointment - 238.4s seem to be the most common and easy pro stocks to get. They're fine racquets but many want something more flexible.

star 5 15
09-18-2011, 04:37 PM
That's a major disappointment - 238.4s seem to be the most common and easy pro stocks to get. They're fine racquets but many want something more flexible.

It's not really that big of a deal to me. I've been using 238.1's and I really like them. I only have 3 that I already bought pretty used so I needed new racquets. I had an opportunity to get some pro stocks straight from Austria made to my specs so I went for it. Unfortunately I couldn't get 57A's which I have heard are a lot better, but I'm content with the 238.4 so it's not that big of a deal too me.

movdqa
09-18-2011, 04:51 PM
I'm in a similar position - I'm playing with 238.4s (I have six of them but I mainly just use two) waiting for a different model which I'd rather use. It's just a matter of being patient for me. My issue with the 238.4s was stiffness but I seem to have found a configuration which makes them feel more comfortable.

zapvor
09-18-2011, 05:24 PM
can you post up a few pics for us?

firefox
09-18-2011, 06:29 PM
Is there a steel rod encased inside the shaft, or did they use silicone to add weight the handle?

TaihtDuhShaat
09-18-2011, 06:39 PM
My PT167A has a lead cylinder molded into the hairpin as well as silicone added. It was set up too HL for me so I scooped some of the lead inside the cylinder out with a small screwdriver.

star 5 15
09-18-2011, 08:24 PM
I will post some pictures when I get a chance. It'll probably be in a day or two. All the weight that was put in the handle was silicon and lots of it. Both sides of the hairpin are pretty full it looks like. And theres 2 layers of lead at noon under the bumper guard. Probably 10-12 inch strips....

@movdqa: I'm totally happy with these sticks. I love the 238.1's and my understanding is these are pretty much the same.

movdqa
09-19-2011, 04:35 AM
I think that the 238 series is pretty similar and that maybe the numbers indicate paintjob and string pattern and some other minor stuff.

These are my 238.4s. As you can see, three of them are XLs (27 3/4) and the other two are SL. I'm only using two of the XLs. The third XL is a lot lighter (11.9 oz vs 12.7 oz) than the other two. Someday I might work on matching up the third if I can't get more tgk260.2s by then.

http://vector64.com/Tennis/IMG_1229.jpg
http://vector64.com/Tennis/IMG_1230.jpg
http://vector64.com/Tennis/IMG_1231.jpg
http://vector64.com/Tennis/IMG_1232.jpg

zapvor
09-20-2011, 04:57 AM
man you leaded those things up too.

movdqa
09-20-2011, 05:54 AM
The last set of 238.4s were a lot more comfortable out of the box and one was full-poly and the other poly/multi than my others and I attribute this to the heavier static weight that they came out (12.7 oz vs 11.9 to 12.3 oz). It's amazing how additional mass can help turn a frame that's just a tad on the stiff side to something that is reasonably comfortable. I just added six grams at 3/9 for a little more power.

My previous racquets were the KPS88 at 13 - 13.3 ounces. The 238.4s don't have the power level of the KPS88 but the bigger hoop and the longer length are nice. These are interim racquets until I get a matched set of 260.2s which seem almost as hard to get as PT57As these days. I'm not opposed to buying a set of PT57As - I just haven't seen a full set of them offered for a few months.

zapvor
09-20-2011, 06:01 AM
thanks for the pics! makes me want to get a youtek

what level are you?

Marcus2137
09-20-2011, 09:20 AM
I think that the 238 series is pretty similar and that maybe the numbers indicate paintjob and string pattern and some other minor stuff.

These are my 238.4s. As you can see, three of them are XLs (27 3/4) and the other two are SL. I'm only using two of the XLs. The third XL is a lot lighter (11.9 oz vs 12.7 oz) than the other two. Someday I might work on matching up the third if I can't get more tgk260.2s by then.


Hey movdqa,

Have you ever taken the pallets off of the XL rackets? I just received a 238.4 XL, and I'm wondering if it is real.

OP, sorry to thread-jack!

Marcus

movdqa
09-20-2011, 09:36 AM
> what level are you?

4.5.

> Have you ever taken the pallets off of the XL rackets? I just
> received a 238.4 XL, and I'm wondering if it is real.

Well, the retail frames only come in SL so if it's an XL, then it should be real outside of someone extending a retail frame. Mine are 27 3/4 and I don't really think that you can extend frames safely more than 1/2 inch.

The Pro Stock should either have the code on the throat or a sticker with an A or B number.

I bought the XLs from someone with an impeccable reputation in dealing in Pro Stocks.

Marcus2137
09-20-2011, 10:13 AM
> what level are you?

4.5.

> Have you ever taken the pallets off of the XL rackets? I just
> received a 238.4 XL, and I'm wondering if it is real.

Well, the retail frames only come in SL so if it's an XL, then it should be real outside of someone extending a retail frame. Mine are 27 3/4 and I don't really think that you can extend frames safely more than 1/2 inch.

The Pro Stock should either have the code on the throat or a sticker with an A or B number.

I bought the XLs from someone with an impeccable reputation in dealing in Pro Stocks.

Well, it's supposed to be a newer one without the code inside throat but doesn't have the sticker. Also, do the newer ones that have the retail specs inside the throat also have the hologram sticker?

Anyways, didn't want to hijack this thread any more, so I made my own thread with some pictures, please take a look if you have a second, I'd love to hear your opinion.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?p=6018202#post6018202

hrstrat57
09-20-2011, 04:51 PM
I think that the 238 series is pretty similar and that maybe the numbers indicate paintjob and string pattern and some other minor stuff.

These are my 238.4s. As you can see, three of them are XLs (27 3/4) and the other two are SL. I'm only using two of the XLs. The third XL is a lot lighter (11.9 oz vs 12.7 oz) than the other two. Someday I might work on matching up the third if I can't get more tgk260.2s by then.

http://vector64.com/Tennis/IMG_1229.jpg
http://vector64.com/Tennis/IMG_1230.jpg
http://vector64.com/Tennis/IMG_1231.jpg
http://vector64.com/Tennis/IMG_1232.jpg

That is a really nice collection of frames!

dr325i
09-20-2011, 10:38 PM
So I have these racquets in my possession now. They didn't come with leather... they did that incorrectly but the specs I asked for are correct. The only thing is I'm not totally sure if they are PT57A or if they are TGk238.4s. I haven't hit with yet. Since they are newer they have the specs in the throat and no code, just a label printed like B094401. I think it's some sort of order number. It's the same number on all 6 racquets. Anway my point is there any obvious way to distinguish a TGK from a PT57A on a Youtek PJ. I really don't want to take the pallets off cuz that's just a pain in the *****. I'll post some pictures soon.

Edit: For the record I asked for PT57A so I really hope that's what I got.

Edit II: Lost my patience popped half of a pallet off. "TGT238.4 WT:247g BP:381mm E100"... Looks like no PT57A's for me...

So, I have been playing extensively with both.
They do not compare.
Both are great sticks (if set up properly), however, the PT57A is a unique and irreplacable.
I hope they did not charge you the 57A price for the TGK238.4 since the 57A is probably worth 2x of the TGK...

movdqa
09-21-2011, 06:55 AM
You're not supposed to buy/sell in this forum and can be banned for that. I don't think that it's illegal; just not permitted on the board. If you want to sell your PT57As, string forums would be a better venue. I'd certainly take a look on string forums or if you want to email me at movdqa @ gmail.com.