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KLE
05-25-2011, 06:40 PM
I would like to start a thread to discuss about a transition (if there is any) of Pro Staff 6.0 85 to the latest model BLX Six One Tour of Federer' sticks.

1. In the the early days of Federer's career, he used the Pro Staff. Is that the main reason Wilson developed many racket's models for him based on the Pro Staff spec. ?

2. For club players like us, what are the different playing characteristics of all Federer's sticks retail version in comparison to the original Pro Staff 85 and also any difference in one model to the next.

3. Which one is your favorite stick after all?

4. What are those Wilson rackets that Federer used in his career?
From Rosach quote: Fed's rackets thru out the years

1. PS85
2. PS90
3. PS90 Tour
5. HPS90 Tour
6. N90
7. K90
8. BLX 90 (current)


http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9457/federerprostaffaacc0012.jpg

Federer with Pro Staff 83 in his early professional career

UWBTennis
05-25-2011, 06:57 PM
This may find some more responses in the pro's gear section.

KLE
05-25-2011, 07:23 PM
This may find some more responses in the pro's gear section.

I wanted in this section because I would like to get discussions and club players' input using Federer endorsed rackets.

flashfire276
05-25-2011, 07:26 PM
He's still using a Pro Staff.
And I think he's using a Pro Staff 6.0 85 mold with a 90 inch head.

vsbabolat
05-25-2011, 07:54 PM
He's still using a Pro Staff.
And I think he's using a Pro Staff 6.0 85 mold with a 90 inch head.

No he is not. Think of the K6-1 Tour 90 and that is it.
Here are a cpuple of very good threads on Federer's gear by someone who owns it.
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=340181

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=347886

2Hare
05-25-2011, 09:46 PM
Well, I think PS85 is simply not suitable for today's game or poly strings. Today's heavy topspin games with players hitting varied topspin means players need something with bigger margin of error. We are talking about more than 50% increase in topspin in today's game. Here's a comparison: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/340600-does-rafael-nadal-hit-with-too-much-topspin


Especially for Fed who grew up playing on a lot of clay, he needed something bigger for clay. Even Sampras regretted of not using something bigger for him to do better on clay. I believe the popularity of poly strings also propel wilson to update PS85 to a bigger head as anyone who has strung poly in PS85 would know it simply doesn't work well with it. So he transitioned to PS90.

As for what retail racket is closest to the one he uses in different period, it's up for debate. When he was using ncode 6.1 tour, it was confirmed that even though the string pattern was different, Federer's racket was similar to the retail one in this playtest: http://www.hdtennis.com/grs/federer_playtest.html
When he transitioned to k factor 90, it was also confirmed that his rackets are just modified retailed racket.
Now that he's using BLX90, he said he's racket is closer to retail than ever in an interview, but no one knows for sure as no one has actually hit with it yet.

My favorite stick? I've owned PS85, n90, k90, and blx90. I like them all for different reason: PS85 for its response for heavy shots like serve return and precision volleys; n90 for its best stability, plow and comfort but the control not as good(full poly help to correct this problem); K90 for best precision forehand shots but very harsh for the arm and 1HBH just doesn't feel quite right with this; BLX90 is like the more comfortable version of K90, and also feel more forgiving while still have very nice response. So I would pick BLX90 overall, but nothing's perfect.

That's how I feel about the sticks, please correct me if I'm incorrect in any of the above points thanks.

Fed Kennedy
05-25-2011, 11:00 PM
From the k90 onwards it bites the ball much harder.

Rorsach
05-25-2011, 11:15 PM
AFAIK Federer started with the Pro Staff 85, after this he switched to a racquet designed for Sampras, the PS90 Tour (which Sampras never used). He played a couple of tourneys with the retail version (as can be seen on various pics where the handle length and string pattern matches) and during that time Wilson designed him the racquet he's probably still using today, but in various paintjobs (First the PS90 Tour, HPS90 Tour, N90, K90 and now the BLX90).
That racquet is very close to the retail K90.

c_hari_c
05-26-2011, 05:57 PM
I have used the Prostaff Tour 90, N90 and K90 from 2003 to 2008. Then for some reason, I decided to switch to a bigger frame and went after the Babolat PSL. Now, I am planning to go back to 90 head size and demoing the BLX 90. I will likely go with it. I am a 4.5 player and at this level for rec players, we should be able to handle the spin the opponents generate. I have had some success with these 90 sq.in rackets. People who complain about the racket being heavy need to head to the gym and get stronger. It will reward you. also you need to be a 4.0 level or up to play with this racket. That is just my opinion.

KLE
05-26-2011, 08:51 PM
I have used the Prostaff Tour 90, N90 and K90 from 2003 to 2008. Then for some reason, I decided to switch to a bigger frame and went after the Babolat PSL. Now, I am planning to go back to 90 head size and demoing the BLX 90. I will likely go with it. I am a 4.5 player and at this level for rec players, we should be able to handle the spin the opponents generate. I have had some success with these 90 sq.in rackets. People who complain about the racket being heavy need to head to the gym and get stronger. It will reward you. also you need to be a 4.0 level or up to play with this racket. That is just my opinion.

I am currently a low 4.0 level. Start out in tennis with the Prince Graphite 110 and slowly migrate to mid plus and now using Dunlop 4d 100 90 sq inch. Once you have the right technique in your stroke these 90 head size rackets are much better to play with in term of control and amount of spin one can put on a ball. I hope that you will find your gem strokes again by playing small head size stick. Check out Dunlop 4d 100 also.

KLE
05-31-2011, 09:01 PM
Found this pix on the net:


http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3088/framesinthelineageofthe.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/98/framesinthelineageofthe.jpg/)

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Thepowerofchoice
06-01-2011, 07:00 AM
So did Fed ever use HPS 6.0 95?

KLE
06-01-2011, 09:31 PM
So did Fed ever use HPS 6.0 95?

Yes he did according to this website:

http://thetenniswiki.com/Wilson+Pro+Staff+6.0+Original+Mid+85

Thepowerofchoice
06-01-2011, 10:03 PM
Thanks, great website. I didn't think Fed ever play with anything above 90 sq in

stevewcosta
06-02-2011, 06:44 AM
So did Fed ever use HPS 6.0 95?

No, he didn't. He used a pj of a HPS (6.0 85 painted as HPS).