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fedtastic
06-10-2011, 06:35 AM
Just heard him on BBC2, in an interview. When asked who he would prefer to play, Roger or Rafa? He replied "I find Rafa's game boring and predictable, you know its going to be physical and he will try to wear you down or if your lucky you might just sneak out a win. With Roger its totally different, he comes up with shots you have never seen before and you never know what to expect. so I prefer to play Roger, he is amazing to watch."

Ljubcheck also said something along those lines but he said he prefers to play Rafa because he knows what to expect and after a few games you can figure Rafa out.


I think its very accurate description of both their games. Federer is a master shotmaker while Nadal is a an amazing counter puncher and fighter.

jmverdugo
06-10-2011, 06:37 AM
well, he is entitled to his opinion, but it just that, his opinion...

Sentinel
06-10-2011, 06:43 AM
We've known this all along. But you can't speak up for fear of being called a hater. Rafa's a great guy, just love him, his humility, his never-die attitude, etc.

But his game is boring as hell.
Anyway, now Max will be crucified by TW poasters ... just see.

vive le beau jeu !
06-10-2011, 06:45 AM
Just heard him on BBC2, in an interview. When asked who he would prefer to play, Roger or Rafa? He replied "I find Rafa's game boring and predictable, you know its going to be physical and he will try to wear you down or if your lucky you might just sneak out a win. With Roger its totally different, he comes up with shots you have never seen before and you never know what to expect. so I prefer to play Roger, he is amazing to watch."

Ljubcheck also said something along those lines but he said he prefers to play Rafa because he knows what to expect and after a few games you can figure Rafa out.


I think its very accurate description of both their games. Federer is a master shotmaker while Nadal is a an amazing counter puncher and fighter.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0LpMeggYFtI/SamxAPnGBiI/AAAAAAAACvU/FZSuLN88Hv4/s400/Seguin+supplice+roue+1.jpg

heretic'max has to pay for this blasphemy towards el martir !!!

TheNatural
06-10-2011, 06:47 AM
it need not be physical v Rafa, the opponent has the option of hitting more winners if they're good enough.

Kunohara
06-10-2011, 06:49 AM
Max is right. Nadal's game is boring. He's the first #1 since the mid 90s that I cant be bothered to watch playing.

Sharpshooter
06-10-2011, 06:50 AM
LOL Mirnyi is a clown to watch I ****ed myself laughing when he used to do that digging motion every time he served.

Sentinel
06-10-2011, 06:50 AM
I'd like to know whether this downgrades Rafa's claim to GOAT ???

Surely a leading doubles player with Major titles should count. He has more creds than anyone on this forum, and those bogus article writers.

This is a serious dent on Rafa's claim to greatness.

tusharlovesrafa
06-10-2011, 06:52 AM
We've known this all along. But you can't speak up for fear of being called a hater. Rafa's a great guy, just love him, his humility, his never-die attitude, etc.

But his game is boring as hell.
Anyway, now Max will be crucified by TW poasters ... just see.

NOW I KNOW THE TRUTH...YOU ARE JUST BEING A HATER..

tusharlovesrafa
06-10-2011, 06:53 AM
Is May Miryni A Hollywood Actor??

vive le beau jeu !
06-10-2011, 06:53 AM
(Yeah but the main thing is Rafa hit a better tweener lob vs Djokovic than Federer has ever hit. Tweeners define greatness man)
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TheNatural
06-10-2011, 06:54 AM
Mirnyi is a doubles guy who cant maintain a rally longer than 2 shots, he wouldnt be able to appreciate rallies longer than 3 shots.

Its kind of like a beginner chess player with 10 hours experience trying to appreciate chess moves of a chess grandmaster.

tusharlovesrafa
06-10-2011, 06:55 AM
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(awesome ! i agree ! you're the tweeniest poster !)
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YES AND TUSHIEST TOO..

Thud and blunder
06-10-2011, 06:56 AM
I agree with Mirnyi; getting passed every time you come to the net is booooooring.

FuriousYellow
06-10-2011, 06:57 AM
I don't get that criticism at all.

He doesn't look as smooth as Federer doing it, but Nadal is one of the most incredible shot makers in the game today.

Breaker
06-10-2011, 06:59 AM
well, he is entitled to his opinion, but it just that, his opinion...

We could simplify every statement made in history to this, but then it would be a bit boring wouldn't it! It's not a bad opinion either, let's be honest the majority of tennis followers find his game boring.

Mustard
06-10-2011, 07:00 AM
My favourite memory of Mirnyi was Kuerten beating him from 2 sets down at the 2001 US Open, a third round night match. That was the match where Kuerten's hip started seriously bothering him. Mirnyi also won the 2000 US Open men's doubles title with Lleyton Hewitt.

As for his opinions on Nadal and his game, I like watching Nadal wear down an opponent with his physical game and his determination to win. I prefer that style to that of a tennis genius like Federer.

vive le beau jeu !
06-10-2011, 07:05 AM
YES AND TUSHIEST TOO..
tushy, i'm sorry but i have to say "no":
you are the only "tushiest one", and this is what makes you so unique ! ;)

sarmpas
06-10-2011, 07:05 AM
Mirnyi is a doubles guy who cant maintain a rally longer than 2 shots, he wouldnt be able to appreciate rallies longer than 3 shots.

Its kind of like a beginner chess player with 10 hours experience trying to appreciate chess moves of a chess grandmaster.

He's 2-1 h2h vs Sampras.

GOAT BAAH!!!
06-10-2011, 07:06 AM
It's amazing how many disparaging articles/interviews/ threads have popped up in the wake of the Roland Garros final. Why is it so difficult for these ***** to comprehend that their favorite player;the most talented player in history is owned time and time again by a "moonballing", "grinding", "monkey" with an "ugly" game.....

time to stop the pity party...

icedevil0289
06-10-2011, 07:17 AM
well to each their own. Even if nadal's game is boring, it doesn't take away from how great of a player he is. I personally do find nadal's game boring. I'm sure there are people who find fed's game boring as well. I don't think this is that big of a deal imo. I don't know why people are getting so defensive and insulting Mirnyi

tusharlovesrafa
06-10-2011, 07:19 AM
tushy, i'm sorry but i have to say "no":
you are the only "tushiest one", and this is what makes you so unique ! ;)

YEAH YEAH......enough of buttering me...lol

li0scc0
06-10-2011, 07:21 AM
well to each their own. Even if nadal's game is boring, it doesn't take away from how great of a player he is. I personally do find nadal's game boring. I'm sure there are people who find fed's game boring as well. I don't think this is that big of a deal imo. I don't know why people are getting so defensive and insulting Mirnyi

Great post.
Nadal is one of my favorites, and Federer is one of my favorites. Yes, Nadal IS (or can be) kind of boring at times. Federer is never boring. That doesn't make Federer better than Nadal. Boring can win.
Mirnyi has the right to his opinion, and we have the right to disagree with it. In this case, he is onto something. He isn't saying "Nadal is bad" he is saying "Nadal is boring".

tusharlovesrafa
06-10-2011, 07:22 AM
Now we need players to serve like this to Kill boredom..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT714mG17bA&feature=related

ben123
06-10-2011, 07:23 AM
agree with max nadals game is boring.

Dan007
06-10-2011, 07:26 AM
lol also to mention, Mirnyi is a good friend of Fed. I think Max asked Rog to be his best man at his wedding but unfortunately couldnt cz of wimbledon 03

willshot
06-10-2011, 07:31 AM
who is Max mirnyi? lol.

TheNatural
06-10-2011, 07:32 AM
He's 2-1 h2h vs Sampras.

So he can't appreciate rallies longer than 2 shots.He beloings in the 90's.

sarmpas
06-10-2011, 07:36 AM
So he can't appreciate rallies longer than 2 shots.He beloings in the 90's.

So Sampras with his tactical smarts didn't change his game plan. He didn't adapt.

tennis_pro
06-10-2011, 07:39 AM
(Yeah but the main thing is Rafa hit a better tweener lob vs Djokovic than Federer has ever hit. Tweeners define greatness man)

hahahaha *chokes* HAHAHAHAHA

TheNatural
06-10-2011, 07:42 AM
So Sampras with his tactical smarts didn't change his game plan. He didn't adapt.

Thats because he played Max in meaningless matches (that no one remembers without googling, lol) that he used as a training run for the important events.

Mick
06-10-2011, 07:45 AM
haha i don't know who who the hell that guy is :)
his opinion probably doesn't matter at all.

Semi-Pro
06-10-2011, 07:59 AM
(I find Federer's game more boring than most players, because nearly every time I see him play he's hitting into the net. Unforced errors are boring. Constructing a point in a crafty manner without giving it away cheaply is not boring)

Then obviously you've only started watching tennis since 2008 or so...which is why I fully understand your reasoning.

tacou
06-10-2011, 07:59 AM
err he likes watching Fed beat him? very competitive

Nadal's shots are unreal as well

Alexio92
06-10-2011, 07:59 AM
Just heard him on BBC2, in an interview. When asked who he would prefer to play, Roger or Rafa? He replied "I find Rafa's game boring and predictable, you know its going to be physical and he will try to wear you down or if your lucky you might just sneak out a win. With Roger its totally different, he comes up with shots you have never seen before and you never know what to expect. so I prefer to play Roger, he is amazing to watch."

Ljubcheck also said something along those lines but he said he prefers to play Rafa because he knows what to expect and after a few games you can figure Rafa out.


I think its very accurate description of both their games. Federer is a master shotmaker while Nadal is a an amazing counter puncher and fighter.
Thats because he is boring....

Marius_Hancu
06-10-2011, 08:03 AM
Mirnyi's damn right. Fed's is the athletic, the truly elegant game. The other is to be making efforts to survive.

zagor
06-10-2011, 08:08 AM
We could simplify every statement made in history to this, but then it would be a bit boring wouldn't it! It's not a bad opinion either, let's be honest the majority of tennis followers find his game boring.

What about this forum? Nadal has plenty of fans here and Nadal news thread is much bigger(and more regularly updated) than Federer news thread.

ssonosk
06-10-2011, 08:13 AM
I don't like nadal's back hand, but i still like to watch him play

Sentinel
06-10-2011, 08:13 AM
LOL Mirnyi is a clown to watch I ****ed myself laughing when he used to do that digging motion every time he served.
Who were you talking of ? Max or Rafa ???

ashitaka2010
06-10-2011, 08:18 AM
I find his game boring when he's not playing well especially on hard court. But i wouldn't say Federer is never boring, "shots that we never saw before... blablabla"... heu... that's shots we saw from him for years, even if they are great i'm sometimes bored.

r2473
06-10-2011, 08:20 AM
This is funny because Mirnyi has been a doubles specialist for some years now. Max and Rafa have only met twice, with Rafa winning both. 2004 in Dubai and 2007 in Queens.

If he is talking about Rafa's doubles game, that is far from boring. I watched two matches with him and Lopez at IW. Often times, Lopez had no idea where Rafa would be on the court (Lopez anticipating him to move to typical doubles positions and Rafa floating around like a singles player).

Quite entertaining. Even more so because they made it to the semi's (losing to Fed and Wawa.....who lost in the finals to the most "singles doubles team" I have ever seen in Dolgop and X-man.....those guys were hilarious. They made early Venus and Serena look like doubles experts at times).

LeoMOMO
06-10-2011, 08:48 AM
I don't get that criticism at all.

He doesn't look as smooth as Federer doing it, but Nadal is one of the most incredible shot makers in the game today.


agreed!
Although I sometimes find his game boring when Rafa plays too much defensive on clay. :oops:

Also Roger, when he has many easy error.

Legend of Borg
06-10-2011, 08:48 AM
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/34/Misc-Burn_him.jpg

Legend of Borg
06-10-2011, 08:49 AM
well, he is entitled to his opinion, but it just that, his opinion...

That's one way to "win" a philosophical argument.

"But it's just your opinion."

NamRanger
06-10-2011, 08:52 AM
What about this forum? Nadal has plenty of fans here and Nadal news thread is much bigger(and more regularly updated) than Federer news thread.


A handful of posters littering the forum doesn't make the Nadal fan population bigger.

Legend of Borg
06-10-2011, 08:54 AM
On a more serious note, I do like Nadal's work ethic and attitude to tennis off the court.

He's a hard worker and doesn't get ahead of himself. Plays point for point.

I don't like seeing all of this in fruition on the tennis court however, because my eyes start bleeding when he gets into a baseline rally.

LeoMOMO
06-10-2011, 08:55 AM
It's amazing how many disparaging articles/interviews/ threads have popped up in the wake of the Roland Garros final. Why is it so difficult for these ***** to comprehend that their favorite player;the most talented player in history is owned time and time again by a "moonballing", "grinding", "monkey" with an "ugly" game.....

time to stop the pity party...


Yes, they should move on!

ninman
06-10-2011, 09:06 AM
Nadal's game might be boring but it's effective. I personally find Nadal Federer matches boring and predictable. I know that Federer will have numerous chances to beat Nadal, and I know he will throw them all away and lose. It's the same thing every, single, time, so I hate watching it now.

zagor
06-10-2011, 09:09 AM
A handful of posters littering the forum doesn't make the Nadal fan population bigger.

Lol I know,I was just trying to bait Breaker into saying what he thinks about Nadal news thread :).

That said while I'm not his fan I don't really think Nadal is boring,he's agressive with his FH often enough,can hit some sick angles and can come up some ridiculous on the run shots.Not that smooth of a game maybe but not boring,for me someone like Monfils or Robredo is boring.

sureshs
06-10-2011, 09:13 AM
Hey Min Mirnyi, the Fed boat has sailed. Be nice to Nadal, and after you retire from professional doubles at the young age of 55, he will give you a chance in some senior exos or something.

BobFL
06-10-2011, 09:15 AM
Max is right. Nadal's game is boring. He's the first #1 since the mid 90s that I cant be bothered to watch playing.

You certainly missed Hewitt ;) Now, that game was an epitome of "boring to death".

Boricua
06-10-2011, 09:22 AM
Just heard him on BBC2, in an interview. When asked who he would prefer to play, Roger or Rafa? He replied "I find Rafa's game boring and predictable, you know its going to be physical and he will try to wear you down or if your lucky you might just sneak out a win. With Roger its totally different, he comes up with shots you have never seen before and you never know what to expect. so I prefer to play Roger, he is amazing to watch."

Ljubcheck also said something along those lines but he said he prefers to play Rafa because he knows what to expect and after a few games you can figure Rafa out.


I think its very accurate description of both their games. Federer is a master shotmaker while Nadal is a an amazing counter puncher and fighter.

I agree that Fed hits great shots but Rafas inside out forehand is tremendous

Cup8489
06-10-2011, 09:28 AM
Haha, look at all the butthurt *******s in here talking crap about mirnyi. Seriously you guys act like it's a personal attack on you.

Funny stuff, how insecure you can all be. Lol.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
06-10-2011, 09:29 AM
Max is right. Nadal's game is boring. He's the first #1 since the mid 90s that I cant be bothered to watch playing.

Totally agree with you, no excitement at all

TheMagicianOfPrecision
06-10-2011, 09:31 AM
Hey Min Mirnyi, the Fed boat has sailed. Be nice to Nadal, and after you retire from professional doubles at the young age of 55, he will give you a chance in some senior exos or something.

Uhmm...what:confused:

Breaker
06-10-2011, 09:31 AM
Lol I know,I was just trying to bait Breaker into saying what he thinks about Nadal news thread :).

.

LOL. Just looked at the last page of that thread and within two posts it confirmed everything I figured has been going on for the 8000+ posts...

Intelligent tennis discussion on the finer points of Nadal's game.

cknobman
06-10-2011, 12:39 PM
Nadal and exciting go together "like lamb and tuna fish".

MichaelNadal
06-10-2011, 12:46 PM
And Max has the most exciting game the tour has over seen. :roll:

Gorecki
06-10-2011, 12:49 PM
And Max has the most exciting game the tour has over seen. :roll:

http://www.gtfo.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/jackson.5-550x506.jpg

now now... mr max is bad bad... you should not listen to him! he has a very dirty mouth! bad mr max bad...

MichaelNadal
06-10-2011, 12:51 PM
http://www.gtfo.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/jackson.5-550x506.jpg

now now... mr max is bad bad... you should not listen to him! he has a very dirty mouth! bad mr max bad...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/mikeynitro/tumblr_ll7coeDCx31qbwnvzo1_500.gif

ledwix
06-10-2011, 12:54 PM
(The key being, Federer is easier to beat and doesn't physically hurt the opponent)

Nadal is easier to beat in his prime than Federer. Just look at win-loss records.

Mustard
06-10-2011, 01:04 PM
And Max has the most exciting game the tour has over seen. :roll:

That night match Mirnyi had with Kuerten at the 2001 US Open was a thriller :p

MixieP
06-10-2011, 01:10 PM
I'd like to know whether this downgrades Rafa's claim to GOAT ???

Surely a leading doubles player with Major titles should count. He has more creds than anyone on this forum, and those bogus article writers.

This is a serious dent on Rafa's claim to greatness.

I think Rafa should take up figure skating. He would revolutionise the sport.

Mick
06-10-2011, 01:48 PM
And Max has the most exciting game the tour has over seen. :roll:

i think pros who would call other pros' games "boring" is the equivalent of amateurs who would call players who have trashed them "pushers." It's the sort of thing that only losers would do, winners would never do it :)

CCNM
06-10-2011, 01:52 PM
Not saying I dislike his game but it DOES seem like Rafa does the same thing over and over.

PSNELKE
06-10-2011, 01:56 PM
Wow Max Mirnyi said Ralph´s game is boring.
Wow Max MIRNYI. :lol:

Netzroller
06-10-2011, 02:04 PM
If you have ever been to a tournament and seen how crowded it gets even when he is just practicing, you would know how 'boring' his game apparently is to most people...;-)

Legend of Borg
06-10-2011, 02:05 PM
And Max has the most exciting game the tour has over seen. :roll:

He's never suggested such a thing nor should anyone take that impression from his comment.

It's simply what he thinks of Nadal's game, regardless of whether his own game is flawless or not.

tacou
06-10-2011, 02:34 PM
He's never suggested such a thing nor should anyone take that impression from his comment.

It's simply what he thinks of Nadal's game, regardless of whether his own game is flawless or not.

it 's not

pound cat
06-10-2011, 02:52 PM
If any tennis player was asked in an interview what he thought of .....x's game, not to appear like a dummy they would give an answer. And given a choice of one person over another they would feel obliged to choose one of them and explain why.

He answered the question from his point of view and no doubt he would jump at the chance to play either Nadal or Federer.

Who wouldn't?...story for the grandchildren.

(I got 4 points in the match...a double fault and and 2 long balls from N/F on my serve and 1 ace from me)

Zildite
06-10-2011, 03:00 PM
Mirnyi actually beat Fed in a slam, 2002 US Open, pretty good story :)
0-2 against Nadal though

pound cat
06-10-2011, 03:03 PM
Mirnyi actually beat Fed in a slam, 2002 US Open, pretty good story :)
0-2 against Nadal though



Unfortunately for him Max will never get a chance to play either of them again

sureshs
06-10-2011, 03:14 PM
Mirnyi actually beat Fed in a slam, 2002 US Open, pretty good story :)
0-2 against Nadal though

That explains everything

Magnus
06-10-2011, 03:15 PM
I share the same opinion as Max, but I don't think Nad's game is boring. I would rather call it "unappealing" (to me at least). Many would call Fed's effortless play boring, and I'm fine with it. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

The only thing boring about Nadal is the time he takes between serves. Its a shame.

Magnus
06-10-2011, 03:20 PM
And Max has the most exciting game the tour has over seen. :roll:

Oh come on, you're more mature than that. Mirnyi can have his opinion and you can disagree. Bashing Max for four pages just make Nadal fans look bad.

ronalditop
06-10-2011, 04:42 PM
That's what the mayority of people think about Nadal's game (except his fans of course).

Buckethead
06-10-2011, 05:18 PM
Max just said the truth.

Nadal's game is boring, however He has gotten a lot better than He was.

He's more versatile and able to play on any surface.

Why to change if He still beats most with his B game.

Djokovic owns him however with the same boring game.

rafabull
06-10-2011, 05:44 PM
Just heard him on BBC2, in an interview. When asked who he would prefer to play, Roger or Rafa? He replied "I find Rafa's game boring and predictable, you know its going to be physical and he will try to wear you down or if your lucky you might just sneak out a win. With Roger its totally different, he comes up with shots you have never seen before and you never know what to expect. so I prefer to play Roger, he is amazing to watch."

Ljubcheck also said something along those lines but he said he prefers to play Rafa because he knows what to expect and after a few games you can figure Rafa out.


I think its very accurate description of both their games. Federer is a master shotmaker while Nadal is a an amazing counter puncher and fighter.

Ya, shanks. Who cares what some stupid doubles player thinks of Nadal? If he played him in singles he wouldn't even get a game.

TheTruth
06-10-2011, 06:08 PM
It's unprofessional and puts himself in a worse light. Who is he to openly criticize anyone's game? Especially someone who has done a zillion times better than he has.

What has Max done of note?

But I guess haters gon' hate.

Guess ol' Max doesn't live by the Golden Rule. "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you."

Buckethead
06-10-2011, 06:12 PM
It's unprofessional and puts himself in a worse light. Who is he to openly criticize anyone's game? Especially someone who has done a zillion times better than he has.

What has Max done of note?

But I guess haters gon' hate.

Guess ol' Max doesn't live by the Golden Rule. "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you."

He isn't criticizing he just gave his opinion which happens to be the absolute truth.

He is entitled to his opinion just as you and I are.

There is no doubt that other some players have a more interesting game than Nadal's.

blue steel
06-10-2011, 06:17 PM
guys nadal is your favorite player not your wife. you dont have to defend his honor. he probably cares less about mirnyi's comment than anyone who posted in this thread. you guys are gettin way too mad over this

MichaelNadal
06-10-2011, 06:27 PM
He isn't criticizing he just gave his opinion which happens to be the absolute truth.

He is entitled to his opinion just as you and I are.

There is no doubt that other some players have a more interesting game than Nadal's.

I agree with everything else you said, and it's really not that serious, and in retrospect, we should respect anyone's opinion. But no "opinion" is truth, he isn't anymore right or wrong than me, when I say I find his game exciting.

TennisandMusic
06-10-2011, 06:36 PM
Nadal hits shots we've never seen before, so not sure what Max is on about. Perhaps Federer and him are buddies and he's just being a pill. I think Nadal is most entertaining player to watch...well that I've yet to see. He is entitled to his own opinion of course.

I actually find Federer incredibly boring to watch. He executes very well but brings nothing new to the table.

cc0509
06-10-2011, 06:57 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0LpMeggYFtI/SamxAPnGBiI/AAAAAAAACvU/FZSuLN88Hv4/s400/Seguin+supplice+roue+1.jpg

heretic'max has to pay for this blasphemy towards el martir !!!

LOL! Maybe Max will get death threats from the nutcase Nadal fans too! :twisted:

cc0509
06-10-2011, 07:10 PM
What about this forum? Nadal has plenty of fans here and Nadal news thread is much bigger(and more regularly updated) than Federer news thread.

That is because I think most of the Nadal fans are generally a little younger(maybe students) and may have more time to dedicate towards posting on the Nadal forum.
I don't think it is because Federer has less fans on this forum.

Stepar
06-10-2011, 07:16 PM
Nadal's style is as effective -- and pretty -- as the slaughter deck of whaling boat. You can't help but respect Nadal's ability to win, but I'd prefer to watch almost any other pro in the top 100.

I favored Connors over Borg 'back in the day' because of Borg's boring style. The irony of course is that Borg looks like a creative serve and volley artist compared to Nadal.

Murrayfan31
06-10-2011, 07:21 PM
He used to post at MTF as himself I guess. lol

SoBad
06-10-2011, 07:25 PM
Max Mirnyi will admit to being from the Moon and shooting JFK in the same breath if it gets him another discount 3-pack of overgrips from Wilson/Fred.

Sentinel
06-10-2011, 07:37 PM
It's unprofessional and puts himself in a worse light. Who is he to openly criticize anyone's game? Especially someone who has done a zillion times better than he has.

What has Max done of note?

But I guess haters gon' hate.

Guess ol' Max doesn't live by the Golden Rule. "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you."
How sweet the irony. What you you done, dear chap? And do you live by the rule. You can check wiki or the atp site to see what Max has done, btw.

JeMar
06-10-2011, 07:42 PM
I agree with Mirnyi.

Murrayfan31
06-10-2011, 07:44 PM
I agree with Mirnyi.
And his game defined boring. lol

Mick
06-10-2011, 07:47 PM
And his game defined boring. lol

haha but murray said he would watch videos of old nadal matches to learn how to play on clay :)
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"Nadal said that he watches videos of his old matches to remind him how to play on clay; Murray said he would benefit by doing the same – of Nadal."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/apr/11/andy-murray-rafael-nadal-monte-carlo

Murrayfan31
06-10-2011, 07:49 PM
haha but murray said he would watch videos of old nadal matches to learn how to play on clay :)
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"Nadal said that he watches videos of his old matches to remind him how to play on clay; Murray said he would benefit by doing the same – of Nadal."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/apr/11/andy-murray-rafael-nadal-monte-carlo
I was talking about Mirnyi. ;)

JeMar
06-10-2011, 07:49 PM
And his game defined boring. lol

Serve and volleyers, in my opinion, are never boring. They are what I think tennis should be. Mirnyi was expressing an opinion, and it is an opinion that I happen to agree with. I understand that some people like players like Nadal exciting, but I just don't see it that way.

I would watch Llodra over Nadal on any surface at any time.

Murrayfan31
06-10-2011, 07:51 PM
Serve and volleyers, in my opinion, are never boring. They are what I think tennis should be. Mirnyi was expressing an opinion, and it is an opinion that I happen to agree with. I understand that some people like players like Nadal exciting, but I just don't see it that way.

I would watch Llodra over Nadal on any surface at any time.
Serve and volleyers defined a very boring time in tennis. The only time I enjoy watching them is seeing passing shots go by them with great baseliners exposing them.

Mick
06-10-2011, 07:51 PM
I was talking about Mirnyi. ;)

oops sorry. honest mistake :)

JeMar
06-10-2011, 07:54 PM
Serve and volleyers defined a very boring time in tennis for me. The only time I enjoy watching them is seeing passing shots go by them with great baseliners exposing them.

Fixed it for you. Is that so hard to understand, little buddy?

Murrayfan31
06-10-2011, 07:56 PM
Fixed it for you. Is that so hard to understand, little buddy?
And many others. For many Agassi fans that hated that style and enjoyed him ripping winners past them.

Mick
06-10-2011, 08:01 PM
mirnyi says nadal is boring but the great federer says nadal is unbelievable :)
_______________

Look, no matter what people say, I never thought my problem was clay. My problem was Rafa. The guy is unbelievable. There are some people who don’t want to believe it, but that’s the truth, unfortunately for a whole great generation of clay courters. So for me, it was as if fate was calling me. Being able to handle the pressure, being able to believe I could win each year, even though Rafa would then come and crush my dreams....
-- federer

http://gototennis.com/2010/05/10/roger-federer-interview-rafa-would-crush-my-dreams/

Agassifan
06-10-2011, 08:11 PM
(Yeah but the main thing is Rafa hit a better tweener lob vs Djokovic than Federer has ever hit. Tweeners define greatness man)

except he didn't

Toxicmilk
06-10-2011, 08:14 PM
More true for Rafa before 2009 I feel.

TheNatural
06-10-2011, 08:26 PM
He isn't criticizing he just gave his opinion which happens to be the absolute truth.

He is entitled to his opinion just as you and I are.

There is no doubt that other some players have a more interesting game than Nadal's.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/nazareneuk/RqWSoWKvOBI/AAAAAAAAAag/91FFiXdoSvI/s400/opinions.gif.jpg

OTMPut
06-10-2011, 08:31 PM
If you have ever been to a tournament and seen how crowded it gets even when he is just practicing, you would know how 'boring' his game apparently is to most people...;-)

most of these guys have no clue about the game.
i know some women from my work place who are crazy about nadal. they know zlich about the game. his fist pumping, dressing, grunting, OCD routines perhaps appeal to different parts of their brain.

we are talking about a pro's opinion. i am sure he is talking about the "tennis".

OTMPut
06-10-2011, 08:33 PM
mirnyi says nadal is boring but the great federer says nadal is unbelievable :)
_______________

Look, no matter what people say, I never thought my problem was clay. My problem was Rafa. The guy is unbelievable. There are some people who don’t want to believe it, but that’s the truth, unfortunately for a whole great generation of clay courters. So for me, it was as if fate was calling me. Being able to handle the pressure, being able to believe I could win each year, even though Rafa would then come and crush my dreams....
-- federer

http://gototennis.com/2010/05/10/roger-federer-interview-rafa-would-crush-my-dreams/

essentially he is saying he is an unbelievable clay courter.
extraordinary defense, i agree.

zagor
06-11-2011, 12:23 AM
He is entitled to his own opinion of course.

He is??? I thought that whomever doesn't consider Nadal's game to beautiful knows squat about tennis(according to you).So we have to presume Max Mirnyi is clueless about tennis.Shame he'll never get to play you and learn a thing or two about the game,he'd probably be in awe of your flawless mastery of tennis.

I actually find Federer incredibly boring to watch.

Good for you.

Sid_Vicious
06-11-2011, 12:51 AM
He is??? I thought that whomever doesn't consider Nadal's game to beautiful knows squat about tennis(according to you).So we have to presume Max Mirnyi is clueless about tennis.Shame he'll never get to play you and learn a thing or two about the game,he'd probably be in awe of your flawless mastery of tennis.



Good for you.

HA! Well said, Zagor.

If you don't think this is beautiful to watch, I would dare say you don't know squat about tennis. I've seen all the top guys live, and simply no one crushes the ball like Nadal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82B7A2u1pF4&playnext=1&list=PL8D5B3ABDAC7455B4

Amazing stuff when seen up close.

Sentinel
06-11-2011, 01:31 AM
I think Rafa should take up figure skating. He would revolutionise the sport.
I didn't know they had figure skating on clay :confused:

MixieP
06-11-2011, 01:40 AM
I didn't know they had figure skating on clay :confused:

That may be the revolutionary part of it. Needs to be figured out properly. Skating on thin ice here, I know, but I'm confident and humble.

ViscaB
06-11-2011, 01:43 AM
Tastes differ. Worthy of a thread? Pathetic thread opener? for sure.

Netzroller
06-11-2011, 02:46 AM
most of these guys have no clue about the game.
i know some women from my work place who are crazy about nadal. they know zlich about the game. his fist pumping, dressing, grunting, OCD routines perhaps appeal to different parts of their brain.

we are talking about a pro's opinion. i am sure he is talking about the "tennis".
Great move, just saying the people who don't agree with you don't have a clue...:)

And talking about pro's, there are dozens of them who have a much different opinion. And pretty much all of them are waaay greater than Max Mirnyi;)

This is what Steffi Graf says, for example:
“Words fail to come out of me to describe his game appropriately. I’ve rarely seen anyone who approaches a ball with so much attention. With such passion and joy that it makes it great fun to watch him. With him, you can associate everything that makes tennis so beautiful.”

But I'm sure you and Max know better than a 22 Slam winner, 377 weeks 1# etc...:D

Sharpshooter
06-11-2011, 03:34 AM
This is what Steffi Graf says, for example:


But I'm sure you and Max know better than a 22 Slam winner, 377 weeks 1# etc...:D

Nah she wouldn't know better than Max Moronyi :rolleyes:

Clay lover
06-11-2011, 03:55 AM
I think that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and that some people do actually find Nadal's game boring, but I also think that Mirnyi being a serve and volleyer has something to do with his opinion.

OTMPut
06-11-2011, 04:20 AM
Great move, just saying the people who don't agree with you don't have a clue...:)

And talking about pro's, there are dozens of them who have a much different opinion. And pretty much all of them are waaay greater than Max Mirnyi;)

This is what Steffi Graf says, for example:


But I'm sure you and Max know better than a 22 Slam winner, 377 weeks 1# etc...:D

do you have the source. looks like she is talking about federer. how can you have the words "beautiful" and "nadal" when talking about his game? come on! effective, brutal game. beautiful?

illuminati
06-11-2011, 04:20 AM
max who?

who is this joker?

does he play tennis?

aphex
06-11-2011, 04:24 AM
max who?

who is this joker?

does he play tennis?

Not as well as you. Obviously.

Bartelby
06-11-2011, 04:32 AM
rafamaniacs of the world --- you can't handle the truth

viduka0101
06-11-2011, 04:58 AM
oh, Max Mirnyi thinks that Rafa's game is boring
that's it, I'm no longer a fan,from this day I will no longer watch tennis if Rafael Nadal is playing, I don't know how could I ever think it's fun to watch him play

and I'm switching to watching players that serve and volley, they don't win much but they play mind boggling tennis,they're so fun to watch

Xemi666
06-11-2011, 05:03 AM
A serve bot calling another player boring :lol:

vive le beau jeu !
06-11-2011, 05:27 AM
Nadal's style is as effective -- and pretty -- as the slaughter deck of whaling boat. You can't help but respect Nadal's ability to win, but I'd prefer to watch almost any other pro in the top 100.

I favored Connors over Borg 'back in the day' because of Borg's boring style. The irony of course is that Borg looks like a creative serve and volley artist compared to Nadal.
superb analogy ! ;)

aphex
06-11-2011, 05:31 AM
superb analogy ! ;)

love your avatar!

http://www.aroksun.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/3106_47a64f5837c6f13b8264a2263834160a.jpg

vive le beau jeu !
06-11-2011, 05:33 AM
love your avatar!

http://www.aroksun.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/3106_47a64f5837c6f13b8264a2263834160a.jpg
thx, that's a tribute to this wonderful lost thread. :)

by the way... i probably missed your last posts... and potentially some crucial information about this famous "party" of the golden bull ! ;)

Netzroller
06-11-2011, 05:44 AM
do you have the source. looks like she is talking about federer. how can you have the words "beautiful" and "nadal" when talking about his game? come on! effective, brutal game. beautiful?
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but she was talking about Rafa...

Original interview in German from 2009: (The quesion was "which athlete currently inspires you the most?")
http://www.abendzeitung-muenchen.de/inhalt.tennis-steffi-graf:-ich-bin-gluecklich-wenn-es-der-familie-gut-geht.b7407694-c682-45fb-a9eb-38e678c39cd6.html
Here's the translation:
http://www.nadalvsfederer.com/steffi-graf-on-rafael-nadal/
“If you watch Rafael Nadal play tennis, you can only respond with amazement and great admiration. He is an incredible athlete with so much discipline, so much concentration and someone who likes to put a lot of passion into every point. Words fail to come out of me to describe his game appropriately. I’ve rarely seen anyone who approaches a ball with so much attention. With such passion and joy that it makes it great fun to watch him. With him, you can associate everything that makes tennis so beautiful.”

LeoMOMO
06-11-2011, 06:10 AM
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but she was talking about Rafa...

Original interview in German from 2009: (The quesion was "which athlete currently inspires you the most?")
http://www.abendzeitung-muenchen.de/inhalt.tennis-steffi-graf:-ich-bin-gluecklich-wenn-es-der-familie-gut-geht.b7407694-c682-45fb-a9eb-38e678c39cd6.html
Here's the translation:
http://www.nadalvsfederer.com/steffi-graf-on-rafael-nadal/



wow, what beautiful words from Steffi.
Love it!

Sentinel
06-11-2011, 09:01 AM
max who?

who is this joker?

does he play tennis?
Check the score at Queens. Max has reached the SF whereas the Dull did not.
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/Scores-and-Stats.aspx
oh, Max Mirnyi thinks that Rafa's game is boring
that's it, I'm no longer a fan,from this day I will no longer watch tennis if Rafael Nadal is playing, I don't know how could I ever think it's fun to watch him play

and I'm switching to watching players that serve and volley, they don't win much but they play mind boggling tennis,they're so fun to watch
Well , sadly Max has gone further than Dull at AEGON :(

Gorecki
06-11-2011, 09:11 AM
surely a guy who has won 8 majors (omg... doubles is tennis too.. who would have thought!!) has batter insight on the sport than The Dork & The Dorkettes....

mandy01
06-11-2011, 09:20 AM
surely a guy who has won 8 majors (omg... doubles is tennis too.. who would have thought!!) has batter insight on the sport than The Dork & The Dorkettes....
He's not even giving an insight .He's giving an opinion because he was asked about it.But apparently,he isn't free to exercise his 'right to opinion' :wink:

Legend of Borg
06-11-2011, 09:21 AM
LOL

Mirnyi seems to be the new object of hate and loathing among the Nadal community on TT.

How fast they can turn on you if you say the wrong things at the wrong time.

He should have kissed *** and called Nadal GOAT like Johnny Mac, instead of speaking his mind.

fednad
06-11-2011, 09:24 AM
Is May Miryni A Hollywood Actor??

Max is a pimp.
And Rafa is on sale. Hire him like Shakira did and fulfill your fantasies.

fednad
06-11-2011, 09:27 AM
Mirnyi is a doubles guy who cant maintain a rally longer than 2 shots, he wouldnt be able to appreciate rallies longer than 3 shots.

Its kind of like a beginner chess player with 10 hours experience trying to appreciate chess moves of a chess grandmaster.

Correct. Just like the old days of Sampras when we had rallies of two shots.

TheNatural
06-11-2011, 11:21 AM
this author (http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/06/06/the-unbeatable-rafa/), says it best when he describes Nadal's game:
"

If you like tennis at all, you cannot help but be overwhelmed by the way he plays. He is like a blend of some of the giants of the game — a little bit of Connors, a little bit of Borg, a little bit of Agassi, a little bit of Laver. He plays with passion but he also plays with control. He is a fighter, but he’s also an artist. He hits ridiculous shots all the time. It is impossible, I think, to watch him play and not feel awed.

"

TheTruth
06-11-2011, 04:05 PM
He isn't criticizing he just gave his opinion which happens to be the absolute truth.

He is entitled to his opinion just as you and I are.

There is no doubt that other some players have a more interesting game than Nadal's.

There is a difference between constructive criticism and negative criticism.

And it puts him in a bad light, imo, since he hasn't done *#@* on the tour.

When it's all said and done, Mirnyi's name will not be mentioned. So, him coming out against an all time great is just dumb.

Anyone who dismisses incredible gets, superior and winning tactics, amasses 10 majors, holds an enviable h2h against one who many call the greatest ever is just silly.

If anything, he ought to be saying to himself, "what am I missing? cause I haven't even made a dent on the tour with what I'm doing."

Poor Max, with his boring game. Many posters don't even know who he is or his particular game style.

I could understand it if he had a flashy game (which he does not), but Max is the one of the most boring players on the circuit.

Serve, serve, serve. Next game. Serve, flub, passed. The nerve!

Bud
06-11-2011, 04:10 PM
LOL

Mirnyi seems to be the new object of hate and loathing among the Nadal community on TT.

How fast they can turn on you if you say the wrong things at the wrong time.

He should have kissed *** and called Nadal GOAT like Johnny Mac, instead of speaking his mind.

Most people have never heard of Max Mirnyi. So, who cares what he thinks :confused:

It's like saying Joe Schmoe thinks Nadal's game is boring

Legend of Borg
06-11-2011, 04:16 PM
Most people have never heard of Max Mirnyi. So, who cares what he thinks :confused:

It's like saying Joe Schmoe thinks Nadal's game is boring

Well, apparently people here care enough to jump on his back.

It doesn't matter how popular Mirnyi is.

This is all about the fact that someone has expressed dislike towards Nadal's game and you along with some others here aren't too happy about it.

Now answer my question which is a twist on your original enquiry.

Why should Mirnyi, a successful athlete with 9 millions dollars in his bank account give a damn about some scrubs on a tennis forum and their hateful tirades towards him and his career?

I guess you could ask the same about Fed and Nadal haters.

Funny, innit?

fundrazer
06-11-2011, 04:19 PM
zzz, figures that all the clowns would jump on this and start bashing Mirnyi. If you idiots want to apply clown logic to this thread I can do the same. He says Nadal's game is boring, and I agree. You guys don't. No need to bash him for absolutely no reason then stating his opinion.

Bud, no one has heard of you, who cares what you think? On a more important note, I don't think Peter Polansky cares about what you think.

Thetruth, I don't even know what to say about you. I don't think you even play tennis, and your bias towards Nadal is unbelievable. Other people actually play the game too you know.

cc0509
06-11-2011, 04:24 PM
Most people have never heard of Max Mirnyi. So, who cares what he thinks :confused:

It's like saying Joe Schmoe thinks Nadal's game is boring

By the same token who cares what a person on a tennis forum such as yourself or myself thinks? Don't you think your opinion is valid to you? I think my opinion is valid to me.

Mirnyi was asked a question and he offered an opinion which is something "normal." It is merely an opinion, what is the big deal?

When Martina Navratilova stated recently that she did not think Roger Federer was going to reach number 1 again, as a Federer fan, I did not get all up in arms about it. Who cares? She is entitled to her opinion, just as Mirnyi is entitled to his. He is a tennis pro. Yes, he is not as accomplished as Nadal, but so what? Is there some law that states only people more accomplished than another can state their opinions?

You *******s that are carrying on about something so stupid, need to shut up. He did not come out and say he was going to kill small children did he? :rolleyes:
Grow up *******s!

JustBob
06-11-2011, 04:24 PM
"He is a nobody who has accomplished nothing therefore he doesn't have the right to criticize anyone" is a silly and fallacious argument.

Plus, if his opinion is deemed so irrelevant, one might wonder why Nadal fans are acting like they've all been subjected to one giant collective wedgie at the hands of some evil anti Nadal bully.

TheTruth
06-11-2011, 04:35 PM
Nadal hits shots we've never seen before, so not sure what Max is on about. Perhaps Federer and him are buddies and he's just being a pill. I think Nadal is most entertaining player to watch...well that I've yet to see. He is entitled to his own opinion of course.

I actually find Federer incredibly boring to watch. He executes very well but brings nothing new to the table.

Precisely! I've long known of Mirnyi and his "protectiveness" towards Federer. I hope Marc Lopez never stoops to this level.

Max Mirnyi of Belarus, a friend of Federer’s whom he often invited to practice with him in Switzerland…

The Roger Federer Story: Quest for Perfection, p. 61.
http://books.google.com/books?id=9Ka_Lf3sB6gC&pg=PA61&lpg=PA61&dq=max+mirnyi+federer&source=bl&ots=kMRKOy4elx&sig=nk_jIGtRCNCUqGA9mlvRH2Gl0ek&hl=en&ei=5gb0Te3BB6rt0gHC5rDuDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CFAQ6AEwCTge#v=onepage&q=max%20mirnyi%20federer&f=false

ROTTERDAM, Netherlands Big-serving Belarusian Max Mirnyi upset doubles partner Roger Federer of Switzerland 5-7, 6-3, 6-4 Saturday in the semifinals of the ABN Amro.

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-71997267.html

TheNatural
06-11-2011, 04:38 PM
Most people have never heard of Max Mirnyi. So, who cares what he thinks :confused:

It's like saying Joe Schmoe thinks Nadal's game is boring

He's a mixed doubles specialist..lol:)

TheTruth
06-11-2011, 04:38 PM
How sweet the irony. What you you done, dear chap? And do you live by the rule. You can check wiki or the atp site to see what Max has done, btw.

I am not a touring professional where my words will be forever immortalized in print. If I was, I would be more careful about the drivel that came out of it.

Here on an anonymous tennis board where no one knows my true identity, it's just words in the wind.

Anyhoot, I get tired of Federer's "friends" coming out in the media talking crap.

I know enough about Max, thank you.

_maxi
06-11-2011, 04:40 PM
Mirnyi is a doubles guy who cant maintain a rally longer than 2 shots, he wouldnt be able to appreciate rallies longer than 3 shots.

Its kind of like a beginner chess player with 10 hours experience trying to appreciate chess moves of a chess grandmaster.

He's 2-1 h2h vs Sampras.

http://www.wikirevistes.org/wiki/images/f/f9/Pwned_mascao.jpg

nikdom
06-11-2011, 04:45 PM
Look at the insecure Nadalites. One guy thinks Nadal's game is boring and their panties are in a bunch.

So what if Max Mirnyi thinks that way? And what if he's buddies with Roger.

Doesn't Nadal have his own cheering squad in Verdasco, Ferrer and Almugro? Murray openly worships at Nadal's altar. Djokovic goes around saying Nadal is the GOAT who will surpass Roger *even when Roger is still around*.

Speak of double standards.

TheTruth
06-11-2011, 04:46 PM
zzz, figures that all the clowns would jump on this and start bashing Mirnyi. If you idiots want to apply clown logic to this thread I can do the same. He says Nadal's game is boring, and I agree. You guys don't. No need to bash him for absolutely no reason then stating his opinion.

Bud, no one has heard of you, who cares what you think? On a more important note, I don't think Peter Polansky cares about what you think.

Thetruth, I don't even know what to say about you. I don't think you even play tennis, and your bias towards Nadal is unbelievable. Other people actually play the game too you know.

I don't play tennis, but I have eyes :???:.

My bias is no different than anyone else's bias on this board, I think. There are some incredibly biased posters on this board that no one says anything about.

Lol! You don't have to play a sport to enjoy it!

TheNatural
06-11-2011, 04:52 PM
this author (http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/06/06/the-unbeatable-rafa/), says it best when he describes Nadal's game:
"

If you like tennis at all, you cannot help but be overwhelmed by the way he plays. He is like a blend of some of the giants of the game — a little bit of Connors, a little bit of Borg, a little bit of Agassi, a little bit of Laver. He plays with passion but he also plays with control. He is a fighter, but he’s also an artist. He hits ridiculous shots all the time. It is impossible, I think, to watch him play and not feel awed.

"

This sums it up...Max just doesn't like tennis at all.

TheTruth
06-11-2011, 04:52 PM
Look at the insecure Nadalites. One guy thinks Nadal's game is boring and their panties are in a bunch.

So what if Max Mirnyi thinks that way? And what if he's buddies with Roger.

Doesn't Nadal have his own cheering squad in Verdasco, Ferrer and Almugro? Murray openly worships at Nadal's altar. Djokovic goes around saying Nadal is the GOAT who will surpass Roger *even when Roger is still around*.

Speak of double standards.

Maybe you're right. If Mirnyi hadn't said anything I would've forgotten he existed, lol.

Hopefully, Nadal's friends wouldn't come out and say negative things about Roger. It's just uncool, imo.

Bud
06-11-2011, 04:57 PM
Maybe you're right. If Mirnyi hadn't said anything I would've forgotten he existed, lol.

Hopefully, Nadal's friends wouldn't come out and say negative things about Roger. It's just uncool, imo.

Imagine if Marc Lopez tweeted / stated that Federer was a mentally weak chump who lost nearly 3/4 of the time to Nadal :shock: Lol!

It's a perfect analogy

nikdom
06-11-2011, 05:01 PM
Maybe you're right. If Mirnyi hadn't said anything I would've forgotten he existed, lol.

Hopefully, Nadal's friends wouldn't come out and say negative things about Roger. It's just uncool, imo.

How much more negative can it get when someone says Roger will be surpassed even before he retires?

How disrespectful is that to Roger's achievements?

TheTruth
06-11-2011, 05:08 PM
How much more negative can it get when someone says Roger will be surpassed even before he retires?

How disrespectful is that to Roger's achievements?

That's not a negative. You can look at the situation and say that Nadal has 10 majors at this point and he's only 25. That's more of a speculation. Can he do it?

But if you added a negative connotation, that changes the entire flavor of a discussion.

And it is disrespectful to say that while Roger is still playing and in good form. Nobody knows at this point if Roger will continue to add to his tally.

That's the one beef I have against the journalists regarding Roger, and that is that they discount all that he's done for the game.

TheTruth
06-11-2011, 05:12 PM
Imagine if Marc Lopez tweeted / stated that Federer was a mentally weak chump who lost nearly 3/4 of the time to Nadal :shock: Lol!

It's a perfect analogy

Exactly.

I would be appalled if Lopez said something that silly, especially considering he's a doubles specialist and Roger is the Major Title Holder. No way would I try to uphold something that ridiculous. That goes beyond bias, imo.

But speaking of double standards, surely you remember the backlash around here when Wilander suggested that Federer had no -----, or when JMac said you could make an argument that Nadal was the better volleyer.

It was complete pandemonium on these boards. How quickly people forget.

nikdom
06-11-2011, 05:27 PM
That's not a negative. You can look at the situation and say that Nadal has 10 majors at this point and he's only 25. That's more of a speculation. Can he do it?

But if you added a negative connotation, that changes the entire flavor of a discussion.

And it is disrespectful to say that while Roger is still playing and in good form. Nobody knows at this point if Roger will continue to add to his tally.

That's the one beef I have against the journalists regarding Roger, and that is that they discount all that he's done for the game.

That's not a journalists quote.. That is Djokovic, Nadal's "buddy", who said that.

So there you have it with Nadal's friend saying something negative about Roger.


"I think he's the best ever because, even though he's 24 years old, he has done so much already,” Djokovic said. "Many years in front of him too, I think even to overtake Roger in the Grand Slam trophies."

http://www.tennis.com/articles/templates/news.aspx?articleid=11130&zoneid=25

TheNatural
06-11-2011, 05:28 PM
Exactly.

I would be appalled if Lopez said something that silly, especially considering he's a doubles specialist and Roger is the Major Title Holder. No way would I try to uphold something that ridiculous. That goes beyond bias, imo.

But speaking of double standards, surely you remember the backlash around here when Wilander suggested that Federer had no -----, or when JMac said you could make an argument that Nadal was the better volleyer.

It was complete pandemonium on these boards. How quickly people forget.

or when Pat Cash said That Federer's game had become too predictable. Lopez should tweet that..lol

TheTruth
06-11-2011, 05:33 PM
That's not a journalists quote.. That is Djokovic, Nadal's "buddy", who said that.

So there you have it with Nadal's friend saying something negative about Roger.

http://www.tennis.com/articles/templates/news.aspx?articleid=11130&zoneid=25

Have you seen me agreeing with Novak? Nadal laughed at this quote and called it stupid.

But, this article was not up for opinion, as I remember.

Still, I do think that the statement was disrespectful, but you also have to remember that Novak said that with both of them being on the tour, it was impossible for them to be friends.

Novak and Mirnyi? That's what makes the difference imo. That's why I used Lopez because he is closer to Mirnyi as in being a doubles specialist.

nikdom
06-11-2011, 05:40 PM
Have you seen me agreeing with Novak? Nadal laughed at this quote and called it stupid.

But, this article was not up for opinion, as I remember.

Still, I do think that the statement was disrespectful, but you also have to remember that Novak said that with both of them being on the tour, it was impossible for them to be friends.

Novak and Mirnyi? That's what makes the difference imo. That's why I used Lopez because he is closer to Mirnyi as in being a doubles specialist.

So is Roger agreeing with Mirnyi?

Why the double standard is all I'm asking.

I think it all just boils down to who you root for. When the guy you DONT root for is insulted, you can look at it objectively, but when the guy you DO root for is obliquely disparaged, you take umbrage.

cc0509
06-11-2011, 05:41 PM
The point is this: Who cares if a pro tennis player prefers one style of a particular player over another player. He/she is just stating an opinion. Do people know what an opinion actually means? It does not seem like it.

I have never in my life seen such a bunch of immature blind worshippers of an athlete that they don't even know. Nadal is not your father, son, or brother. You don't know anything about him other than what you read and it is not your job to worship over him and protect him. I can't honestly believe some of this stuff on here that I am reading from *******s. Mirnyi gave his opinion only. Who the hell cares? If he or any player came out tomorrow and said Federer is not as talented as Nadal or something similar, do you think I would care? I would disagree with it, but it is not my job to monitor what other people say in life especially about an athlete that I do not personally know!

You guys need to listen to yourselves and see how you are reacting, like a bunch of nuts, I am sorry. Just my opinion (oh, I forgot, I am not allowed to express an opinion. Oh yes I am, as long as it is not any opinion even remotely negative about the all powerful and divine being, Rafael Nadal!)

TheTruth
06-11-2011, 06:18 PM
So is Roger agreeing with Mirnyi?

Why the double standard is all I'm asking.

I think it all just boils down to who you root for. When the guy you DONT root for is insulted, you can look at it objectively, but when the guy you DO root for is obliquely disparaged, you take umbrage.

Maybe in some instances, but really, I don't like disrespect no matter who it comes from.

I also don't see it as double standards.

Max had an opinion.

I have an opinion. That's why we're all here.

That's all there is to it.

*But, thanks for disagreeing without namecalling and insulting. Appreciate it.

mcr619619
06-11-2011, 06:36 PM
Yeah...that's right max..but you can't win against Nadal's Boring game though...but you nailed it, it's boring, i rather watch Dora the Explorer than watching Nadal in Clay court, except when he play against roger, and beat him...damn..

illuminati
06-11-2011, 06:40 PM
LOL

Mirnyi seems to be the new object of hate and loathing among the Nadal community on TT.

How fast they can turn on you if you say the wrong things at the wrong time.

He should have kissed *** and called Nadal GOAT like Johnny Mac, instead of speaking his mind.

borg fan that is so hurt that rafito is the clay GOAT and that rafito is overall better than borg too.

Rickenbacker4003
06-11-2011, 07:26 PM
If I could achieve not even half of what Rafa has accomplished I'll take his "boring" game. Sampras was accused of the same thing. Boring personality, boring clothes, just hit big serves and short rallies at best. "He was bad for tennis." Ok man. Lol at Mirnyi hating on Nadal. Someone asked Pete what was the difference between him and Rafter, he said something like "about 10 majors". I think we can say the same between Nadal and Mirnyi. Stop hating and shut your mouth. :)

ernestsgulbisfan#1
06-11-2011, 07:29 PM
..BUT speaking of double standards,surely you remember how you and your fellow '***** were vehemently defending Mac and Wilander ?
Let's not even go there.And saying someone doesn't have ****** is a very personal comment to make,on National TV without being prompted to do so by anyone or being asked about it.Not sure how this is even a comparison.
The only thing Max is saying or answering is that he doesn't find Nadal's game particularly pleasing to watch.

I'm a delusional Nadal fan....please help me. :(;)

By the way, I agree with the bolded part. :)

ernestsgulbisfan#1
06-11-2011, 07:29 PM
Reported for these reasons:

1. I never said one word to you or your fellow posters.

2. Because it's a rude post (against the forum rules, harrassment, fighting, and rude comments).

3. You get out. You've been arguing with, and starting flamewars since you got here.

4. I am out of patience with posters like you.

Awwww.....please don't report anyone. :( Let's all be friends. :):):)

Sentinel
06-11-2011, 07:35 PM
Not only boring, but the dude shaves his entire body as well :D :D

BeHappy
06-11-2011, 07:50 PM
Ironically Max Mirnyi has an unbelievably boring game to watch.

Still he probably knows this himself and would admit it if you asked him.

Terre Battu
06-11-2011, 10:29 PM
Yeah, Max. Nadal maybe boring but he has made more prize $$$$$$$$$ than your singles and doubles career combined!!!

To top it off, your game is more boring than Nadal's.

BreakPoint
06-11-2011, 10:58 PM
Most people have never heard of Max Mirnyi. So, who cares what he thinks :confused:

It's like saying Joe Schmoe thinks Nadal's game is boring
You mean it's like saying EVERY Joe Schmoe thinks Nadal's game is boring. :)

Roger No.1
06-12-2011, 12:16 AM
Yeah, Max. Nadal maybe boring but he has made more prize $$$$$$$$$ than your singles and doubles career combined!!!

To top it off, your game is more boring than Nadal's.

Just because Max Mirniy isn't as good as Nadal or hasn't made as much money, it doesn't mean he isn't right. He should be able to state his opinion.
The point here is whether Nadal's game is boring or not, not how much money Max Mirniy makes.

jones101
06-12-2011, 12:21 AM
So another player thinks Nadals game is not exciting?? Its not a crime, it could have been worded better, but imo it is not necessarily disrespectful.

Nadal's game is effective and predictable the majority of the time, yet he can hit some outrageous winners too. Im not a Nadal fan and find a lot of his matches boring too, but thats mainly due to his opponents, not him.

He is great to watch if his opponent plays well.

aphex
06-12-2011, 12:55 AM
I don't play tennis, but I have eyes :???:.

My bias is no different than anyone else's bias on this board, I think. There are some incredibly biased posters on this board that no one says anything about.

Lol! You don't have to play a sport to enjoy it!

Hahahahaha...makes perfect sense...

Thanks for confirming you don't know about tennis.

Sentinel
06-12-2011, 02:47 AM
If Max had said Roger's game was boring, he would be a hero today, with these same poasters !!!

Sentinel
06-12-2011, 02:48 AM
So another player thinks Nadals game is not exciting?? Its not a crime, it could have been worded better, but imo it is not necessarily disrespectful.

Nadal's game is effective and predictable the majority of the time, yet he can hit some outrageous winners too. Im not a Nadal fan and find a lot of his matches boring too, but thats mainly due to his opponents, not him.

He is great to watch if his opponent plays well.
nope, he still keeps lobbing back.

Legend of Borg
06-12-2011, 03:00 AM
What would every Nadal fan's reaction be if the word in the title was changed from "boring" to "most aesthetically pleasing"?

Bet you they would sing praises for Mirnyi's career and good taste in players.

Some would even tease Federer for not being mentioned by Max.

Mick
06-12-2011, 07:38 AM
i am a federer fan but i don't like the idea of a guy who hasn't accomplished much criticizing the game of a guy who has accomplished so much.
it would be like listening to some beginner on the next court commenting on how ugly your 3.5 strokes are when he himself couldn't keep 2 balls in play.

Cesc Fabregas
06-12-2011, 07:58 AM
Max who? Mosley? The S&M guy.

NamRanger
06-12-2011, 08:00 AM
I don't play tennis, but I have eyes :???:.

My bias is no different than anyone else's bias on this board, I think. There are some incredibly biased posters on this board that no one says anything about.

Lol! You don't have to play a sport to enjoy it!




Thank you for confirming you really know nothing about tennis.


i am a federer fan but i don't like the idea of a guy who hasn't accomplished much criticizing the game of a guy who has accomplished so much.
it would be like listening to some beginner on the next court commenting on how ugly your 3.5 strokes are when he himself couldn't keep 2 balls in play.


All he said was Nadal's game was boring not effective. Nothing wrong with that. McEnroe and Connors were spouting the same stuff about Borg and Lendl; does that make them evil tennis players too?

FedExpress 333
06-12-2011, 08:04 AM
I agree with myrini....... I fall asleep during Rafas matches, literally.

Buckethead
06-12-2011, 08:12 AM
To back up Max Mirnyi's statement I saw a couple of hours ago on ATP World Tour uncovered ION Tiriak saying the Federer has created shots never seen before, He said that Federer is the greatest player to ever play tennis and how effortless He makes it look.
I suggest you guys to watch that video, and there is no argument about this.

Nadal's game IS REALLY BORING.

Mick
06-12-2011, 10:53 AM
All he said was Nadal's game was boring not effective. Nothing wrong with that. McEnroe and Connors were spouting the same stuff about Borg and Lendl; does that make them evil tennis players too?

well, mcenroe and connors are legends of the game, so they can voice their opinions about other legends. i would have no problem with that.

Legend of Borg
06-12-2011, 11:07 AM
well, mcenroe and connors are legends of the game, so they can voice their opinions about other legends. i would have no problem with that.

So by this logic, very few players in the history of the sport, if any, can criticize Federer.

After all, he's the all time leading GS winner and no one has equaled his achievements yet, right?

Why would players like McEnroe or Wilander be justified in criticizing him?

If we say that only legends can criticize other great players, where do we set the standard of achievement after which we can call a player "legendary"?

Mick
06-12-2011, 11:10 AM
So by this logic, very few players in the history of the sport, if any, can criticize Federer.

After all, he's the all time leading GS winner and no one has equaled his achievements yet, right?

Why would players like McEnroe or Wilander be justified in criticizing him?

i don't like it either because imo federer is greater than both mcenroe and wilander.

have you ever play doubles with a lower level player who would criticize your strokes when you missed a shot when he himself had missed like 20 other shots? that's how i feel.

fundrazer
06-12-2011, 11:14 AM
^^All the logic in this thread is flawed. People claiming Max is a nobody and shouldn't talk about Nadal when in fact they are nobodies(and in some cases don't know/play tennis) and shouldn't be talking about Max.

Mick
06-12-2011, 11:16 AM
^^All the logic in this thread is flawed. People claiming Max is a nobody and shouldn't talk about Nadal when in fact they are nobodies(and in some cases don't know/play tennis) and shouldn't be talking about Max.

by this logic, talk tennis should be closed :)

Legend of Borg
06-12-2011, 11:19 AM
by this logic, talk tennis should be closed :)

It only becomes a problem once we claim "You need to have X accomplishments in order to have a legitimate opinion on other players".

Mick
06-12-2011, 11:23 AM
It only becomes a problem once we claim "You need to have X accomplishments in order to have a legitimate opinion on other players".

yeah for me, opinions about another player's game has to come from his peers, one who has accomplished nearly as much. if federer had said nadal game is boring, i would accept that.

TheTruth
06-12-2011, 01:04 PM
Thank you for confirming you really know nothing about tennis.


Do you remember a post you made bragging about how your mission on this board was to create flamewars and extinguish the Nadaltrolls on this board? You named other cohorts as well.

I couldn't believe you put it in writing, (lucky break for me) but you did. Do you remember that? (I can send it to you, or the mods), your choice.

The good thing is, your posting history backs up your statements. You've come after me so many times that I was forced to keep a file on you, and boy did you keeping adding to that folder. It's really funny if you think about it.

Comet Buster
06-12-2011, 01:09 PM
Do you remember a post you made bragging about how your mission on this board was to create flamewars and extinguish the Nadaltrolls on this board? You named other cohorts as well.

I couldn't believe you put it in writing, (lucky break for me) but you did. Do you remember that? (I can send it to you, or the mods), your choice.

The good thing is, your posting history backs up your statements. You've come after me so many times that I was forced to keep a file on you, and boy did you keeping adding to that folder. It's really funny if you think about it.




No disrespect but you've stated in this thread you don't play tennis. Why not? you're obviously into the sport so why don't you just get out a bit and play it. I'm a recreational player who plays it pretty much for the social side but I like competing. Maybe you should.

mellowyellow
06-12-2011, 05:25 PM
yeah for me, opinions about another player's game has to come from his peers, one who has accomplished nearly as much. if federer had said nadal game is boring, i would accept that.

I know he is not the best singles player and his singles game was boring as has been pointed out, but his doubles accomplishments are pretty good, and take a look at how many times a tourney was won with a different player...

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Max-Mirnyi.aspx?t=tf

Mick
06-12-2011, 06:08 PM
I know he is not the best singles player and his singles game was boring as has been pointed out, but his doubles accomplishments are pretty good, and take a look at how many times a tourney was won with a different player...

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Max-Mirnyi.aspx?t=tf

yeah. i think he's entitled to his opinion but i disagree. i admire federer because i think he got so much weapons and i admire nadal because his defense skill is good enough to counter federer's weapons. if people say that (his defense skill) is boring then there is nothing anybody can do to change that opinion.

Tennis_Monk
06-12-2011, 06:13 PM
yeah for me, opinions about another player's game has to come from his peers, one who has accomplished nearly as much. if federer had said nadal game is boring, i would accept that.

All that means is Federer's opinion of Nadal's game. That may or may not be accurate or popular opinion.

Pro players say a ton of things at pressers. Cant be considered as ultimate.

TheTruth
06-12-2011, 10:15 PM
No disrespect but you've stated in this thread you don't play tennis. Why not? you're obviously into the sport so why don't you just get out a bit and play it. I'm a recreational player who plays it pretty much for the social side but I like competing. Maybe you should.

My friend and I take our children to the local tennis courts and hit a few from time to time, but I don't consider that "playing tennis." It's not regular, just whenever we're in the mood.

I'm a lefty, and for some reason when I hit the ball it drives my friend crazy. She's always standing on the other side, looking like, wt? She can't seem to figure out where it's going.

Even when she was "teaching" me some years ago, I was able to beat her. Consequently, I had to find a new tennis partner, and that isn't so easy to do.

aphex
06-13-2011, 12:29 AM
Do you remember a post you made bragging about how your mission on this board was to create flamewars and extinguish the Nadaltrolls on this board? You named other cohorts as well.

I couldn't believe you put it in writing, (lucky break for me) but you did. Do you remember that? (I can send it to you, or the mods), your choice.

The good thing is, your posting history backs up your statements. You've come after me so many times that I was forced to keep a file on you, and boy did you keeping adding to that folder. It's really funny if you think about it.

This is so sad...:)
So, she does have hobbies other than Ralph's bum...
It's chasing around Namranger and keeping files on him..
ROFLx Stalky Nadtrardol

vive le beau jeu !
06-13-2011, 12:45 AM
This is so sad...:)
So, she does have hobbies other than Ralph's bum...
It's chasing around Namranger and keeping files on him..
ROFLx Stalky Nadtrardol
http://tar.gr/images/animated-music-notes%5B1%5D.gif *putting some very loud mexican music* http://tar.gr/images/animated-music-notes%5B1%5D.gif
be careful: she also has an "aphex file"... http://forums.gamewinners.com/forums/images/smilies/paranoid.gif

Gorecki
06-13-2011, 12:54 AM
http://tar.gr/images/animated-music-notes%5B1%5D.gif *putting some very loud mexican music* http://tar.gr/images/animated-music-notes%5B1%5D.gif
be careful: she also has an "aphex file"... http://forums.gamewinners.com/forums/images/smilies/paranoid.gif

i was acused of having a personal vendeta... NamRanger as well... your post...

it's starting to sound like a mexican duel, Taratino\Rodriguez style...!

wowowowow... weu weuweu.... wowowoow... weu weu weu...

vive le beau jeu !
06-13-2011, 01:04 AM
i was acused of having a personal vendeta... NamRanger as well... your post...

it's starting to sound like a mexican duel, Taratino\Rodriguez style...!

wowowowow... weu weuweu.... wowowoow... weu weu weu...
i found this guy in my garden yesterday...
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSM4yOsS-FZIsUOC3uyNsEig-Uj17EtZXzvu8dHlknlBl0HDKEO&t=1
he was trying to cut some of my jasmine !!! :shock:
do you think he was sent by TheTrout ?...... http://th6.photobucket.com/albums/y246/prinnypublic/smilies/th_scared.gif

Gorecki
06-13-2011, 01:06 AM
i found this guy in my garden yesterday...
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSM4yOsS-FZIsUOC3uyNsEig-Uj17EtZXzvu8dHlknlBl0HDKEO&t=1
he was trying to cut some of my jasmine !!! :shock:
do you think he was sent by TheTrout ?...... http://th6.photobucket.com/albums/y246/prinnypublic/smilies/th_scared.gif

there is an unspoken rule in TW. you speak bad of Rafito, you get a visit by Danny Trejo!!!

tusharlovesrafa
06-13-2011, 05:07 AM
i found this guy in my garden yesterday...
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSM4yOsS-FZIsUOC3uyNsEig-Uj17EtZXzvu8dHlknlBl0HDKEO&t=1
he was trying to cut some of my jasmine !!! :shock:
do you think he was sent by TheTrout ?...... http://th6.photobucket.com/albums/y246/prinnypublic/smilies/th_scared.gif

I t was sent by me to all fedfans...I have to work my *** to get this devil out of his commode.:twisted:

monfed
06-13-2011, 05:17 AM
No **** Max, ******'s game is boring as hell.

vive le beau jeu !
06-13-2011, 05:28 AM
I t was sent by me to all fedfans...I have to work my *** to get this devil out of his commode.:twisted:
tushy, you should keep a low profile... or this guy will be sent to you, and your strawberry candy fortress won't be enough to protect you.

http://www.bollywoodimages.com/jpg/sunny_deol_015_pcob.jpg

tusharlovesrafa
06-13-2011, 05:44 AM
tushy, you should keep a low profile... or this guy will be sent to you, and your strawberry candy fortress won't be enough to protect you.

http://www.bollywoodimages.com/jpg/sunny_deol_015_pcob.jpg

LOL*SUNNYDELOL...i am impressed by your vivalism..and fedalism...:twisted:..but now nadalism will take care of itsm..:evil:

Gorecki
06-13-2011, 08:04 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OHChT1NFBoY/TfD-rlsRMrI/AAAAAAAAAaE/tv5eM8rpDcg/s1600/max-mirnyi-daniel-nestor-french-open-2011-doubles-winners.jpg

how does this cump dare...

ksbh
06-13-2011, 11:29 AM
You are my favorite writer for the month of June, just for posting that great pic! LOL! :)

tushy, you should keep a low profile... or this guy will be sent to you, and your strawberry candy fortress won't be enough to protect you.

http://www.bollywoodimages.com/jpg/sunny_deol_015_pcob.jpg

Sentinel
06-13-2011, 08:05 PM
Max Mirnyi was actually referring to Sunny Deol movies as being boring. But after a few beers, he mixed up Deol with Sir ******.

Rafa Garros
06-14-2011, 02:17 AM
it all about opinion. many people prefer feds balletarena game. many people prefer the brutalness and relentlessness of rafas game. who is right??? they boths are.

aphex
06-14-2011, 02:42 AM
it all about opinion. many people prefer feds balletarena game. many people prefer the brutalness and relentlessness of rafas game. who is right??? they boths are.

Another Nadal scholar joins the forum. Aren't we lucky...

Gorecki
06-14-2011, 02:44 AM
Another Nadal scholar joins the forum. Aren't we lucky...

strongest era ever...

aphex
06-14-2011, 02:47 AM
strongest era ever...

Yep...strong year...

Not as vintage as 2009 (peak Fedace, gj, N_F, maximo) though, imo...

Gorecki
06-14-2011, 02:49 AM
Yep...strong year...

Not as vintage as 2009 (peak Fedace, gj, N_F, maximo) though, imo...

and dangerous floaters like King of aces, Mun and Mungo...

and the Slam specialist Conquistador!!!! only peaks in the most important moments

aphex
06-14-2011, 02:57 AM
and dangerous floaters like King of aces, Mun and Mungo...

and the Slam specialist Conquistador!!!! only peaks in the most important moments

How could I forget these legends!:oops::oops:

tusharlovesrafa
06-14-2011, 03:22 AM
and dangerous floaters like King of aces, Mun and Mungo...

and the Slam specialist Conquistador!!!! only peaks in the most important moments

What about me??How can you forget me??

Rafa Garros
06-14-2011, 03:29 AM
most fans identifeye with there favorit player. the meterosexual types will like feds flamboyanse walking into court wereas the more maskuline fans will like nadals strong silant type demenor. its a great rifalry. enjoy.

tusharlovesrafa
06-14-2011, 03:30 AM
most fans identifeye with there favorit player. the meterosexual types will like feds flamboyanse walking into court wereas the more maskuline fans will like nadals strong silant type demenor. its a great rifalry. enjoy.

LOL*SUNNYDEOL...

mcr619619
06-14-2011, 04:16 AM
i am a federer fan but i don't like the idea of a guy who hasn't accomplished much criticizing the game of a guy who has accomplished so much.
it would be like listening to some beginner on the next court commenting on how ugly your 3.5 strokes are when he himself couldn't keep 2 balls in play.

i don't think that you have to accomplished too much before you can criticize other players, even the great ones in history(Nadal)...Max has been around the tour long enough and know the game very well, he just said what he think of Nadal's game, and in my opinion, it's boring, very boring in Clay matches if no Fed in the other side.. though when in hardcourts and grass, is way lesser boring, but still boring...

Gorecki
06-14-2011, 04:22 AM
most fans identifeye with there favorit player. the meterosexual types will like feds flamboyanse walking into court wereas the more maskuline fans will like nadals strong silant type demenor. its a great rifalry. enjoy.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EHpcgCC7z8U/S9sYBmQ_VqI/AAAAAAAAAEs/7cJ0gP7ZSz0/s1600/b_nadal_verdasco_30_01.jpg

http://www.rafa-nadal.com/images/news/rafa-nadal_carlos-moya_roma.jpg

http://fearofbliss.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/rafael_nadal12_116.jpg

very maskuline...

Rafa Garros
06-14-2011, 04:29 AM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EHpcgCC7z8U/S9sYBmQ_VqI/AAAAAAAAAEs/7cJ0gP7ZSz0/s1600/b_nadal_verdasco_30_01.jpg

http://www.rafa-nadal.com/images/news/rafa-nadal_carlos-moya_roma.jpg

http://fearofbliss.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/rafael_nadal12_116.jpg

very maskuline...

nice. do you haves these pics on your hard drives??? what else you haves on there???

Gorecki
06-14-2011, 04:38 AM
nice. do you haves these pics on your hard drives??? what else you haves on there???

if you haves defrosted your only brain cell, you could see that i posted them directly from the webs

hence i dont haves them!

but i haves this one in my Komputer:

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/0/7/2/2/2/9/webimg/403012946_tp.jpg

vive le beau jeu !
06-14-2011, 06:16 AM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EHpcgCC7z8U/S9sYBmQ_VqI/AAAAAAAAAEs/7cJ0gP7ZSz0/s1600/b_nadal_verdasco_30_01.jpg

http://www.rafa-nadal.com/images/news/rafa-nadal_carlos-moya_roma.jpg

http://fearofbliss.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/rafael_nadal12_116.jpg

very maskuline...
updating gorecki.txt
14.06.2011, unknown underground parking: trading suspicious pictures with roland-******.

updating pending_investigations.txt
14.06.2011: would gorecki be a closet nadal fan ?...

updating pending_investigations.txt
14.06.2011: naaah... not possible......

updating pending_investigations.txt
14.06.2011: ... or maybe ??? http://www.twcenter.net/forums/images/smilies/emoticons/fear2.gif

aphex
06-14-2011, 06:23 AM
updating gorecki.txt
14.06.2011, unknown underground parking: trading suspicious pictures with roland-******.

updating pending_investigations.txt
14.06.2011: would gorecki be a closet nadal fan ?...

updating pending_investigations.txt
14.06.2011: naaah... not possible......

updating pending_investigations.txt
14.06.2011: ... or maybe ??? http://www.twcenter.net/forums/images/smilies/emoticons/fear2.gif

Is that TheDrool's file on Gorecki?

Legend of Borg
06-14-2011, 06:34 AM
most fans identifeye with there favorit player. the meterosexual types will like feds flamboyanse walking into court wereas the more maskuline fans will like nadals strong silant type demenor. its a great rifalry. enjoy.

lol

Lil kids and middle aged women?

GTFO.

Rafa Garros
06-14-2011, 06:52 AM
lol

Lil kids and middle aged women?

GTFO.

that the same as sayings that only dandy boys with chiwowas in a little bag like fed. ps anna wintour counts as middle aged

mandy01
06-14-2011, 06:55 AM
that the same as sayings that only dandy boys with chiwowas in a little bag like fed. ps anna wintour counts as middle agedShe's over 60 :-?

Gorecki
06-14-2011, 06:56 AM
updating gorecki.txt
14.06.2011, unknown underground parking: trading suspicious pictures with roland-******.

updating pending_investigations.txt
14.06.2011: would gorecki be a closet nadal fan ?...

updating pending_investigations.txt
14.06.2011: naaah... not possible......

updating pending_investigations.txt
14.06.2011: ... or maybe ??? http://www.twcenter.net/forums/images/smilies/emoticons/fear2.gif

Is that TheDrool's file on Gorecki?

ROFL x ALEXANDR DOLGOPOLov

mandy01
06-14-2011, 06:58 AM
and dangerous floaters like King of aces, Mun and Mungo...

and the Slam specialist Conquistador!!!! only peaks in the most important momentsLOOOOOL! I so miss Conquistador's threads :lol:
One of these days ,I'm going to bump some of them. :)

Gorecki
06-14-2011, 07:03 AM
LOOOOOL! I so miss Conquistador's threads :lol:
One of these days ,I'm going to bump some of them. :)

remember those where we used to go around his texts switching to Porky pig, Bugs bunny and Scooby doo???

btw... i have been cat free for over a week!

mandy01
06-14-2011, 07:05 AM
remember those where we used to go around his texts switching to Porky pig, Bugs bunny and Scooby doo???LOL Yeah.That's the reason I loved them.

btw... i have been cat free for over a week!This is a very good development.You're on the right path :cool:

Rafa Garros
06-14-2011, 07:06 AM
She's over 60 :-?

she maybe live untils 120 years of ages with the help of cosmetics science

mandy01
06-14-2011, 07:09 AM
she maybe live untils 120 years of ages with the help of cosmetics scienceif she live 120 years by somehow receive help from cosmetics science we shall thinks of calling her 'middle-aged',okay?
Bye.

vive le beau jeu !
06-14-2011, 07:11 AM
btw... i have been cat free for over a week!
c'mon... just a little one...... why resist the tempcat'tion ? :cool:

http://pokato.net/demot/2010-12-28-09-44-581691557834.jpg

Gorecki
06-14-2011, 07:12 AM
LOL Yeah.That's the reason I loved them.

This is a very good development.You're on the right path :cool:

c'mon... just a little one...... why resist the tempcat'tion ? :cool:

http://pokato.net/demot/2010-12-28-09-44-581691557834.jpg

this is complex...

http://mascot.crystalxp.net/png/aves-devil-angel-7143.png

Rafa Garros
06-14-2011, 07:14 AM
if she live 120 years by somehow receive help from cosmetics science we shall thinks of calling her 'middle-aged',okay?
Bye.

are you middle aged or a older???

mandy01
06-14-2011, 07:18 AM
are you middle aged or a older???
I is bunnytard.

TheNatural
06-14-2011, 07:19 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OHChT1NFBoY/TfD-rlsRMrI/AAAAAAAAAaE/tv5eM8rpDcg/s1600/max-mirnyi-daniel-nestor-french-open-2011-doubles-winners.jpg

The stadium is packed with all of Mirnyi's fans, Mirnyi must have really entertained the fans with his exciting tennis this day..looks like only his parents came to watch..:lol:

vive le beau jeu !
06-14-2011, 07:22 AM
are you middle aged or a older???
roland-******... if you want to invite mandy to the cinema, this is not how it works......
first you have to show some respect to this young lady, and pick up a bunch of rabbits for her ! ;)

http://img.over-blog.com/240x320/1/58/08/56/deco-MB/PICT0004.JPG

Gorecki
06-14-2011, 07:23 AM
are you middle aged or a older???

meet Mandy...

http://meusdiasnaindia.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/krishna1.jpg

Gorecki
06-14-2011, 07:25 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OHChT1NFBoY/TfD-rlsRMrI/AAAAAAAAAaE/tv5eM8rpDcg/s1600/max-mirnyi-daniel-nestor-french-open-2011-doubles-winners.jpg

The stadium is packed with all of Mirnyi's fans, Mirnyi must have really entertained the fans with his exciting tennis this day..looks like only his parents came to watch..:lol:

at least they didnt get booed despite being victorious... something ****** cant say!

tennis_pro
06-14-2011, 07:26 AM
[IMG]
The stadium is packed with all of Mirnyi's fans, Mirnyi must have really entertained the fans with his exciting tennis this day..looks like only his parents came to watch..:lol:

How can I believe someone who said Stepanek was looking like prime Edberg on grass?:)

Gorecki
06-14-2011, 07:28 AM
How can I believe someone who said Stepanek was looking like prime Edberg on grass?:)

Andujar hits Harder and has better touch at the net than Djokovic...

mandy01
06-14-2011, 07:30 AM
meet Mandy...

http://meusdiasnaindia.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/krishna1.jpg...atleast post a female goddess :(

btw-I really Love Krishna pictures.So beautiful.

vive le beau jeu !
06-14-2011, 07:31 AM
How can I believe someone who said Stepanek was looking like prime Edberg on grass?:)
see post #228.

tennis_pro
06-14-2011, 07:34 AM
see post #228.

Oh, I get it now:)

Stepanek himself approves

http://answers.bettor.com/images/Articles/thumbs/extralarge/2010_6_17-2010_6_17_18_4_12-jpg-12907.jpg

Gorecki
06-14-2011, 07:37 AM
...atleast post a female goddess :(

btw-I really Love Krishna pictures.So beautiful.

i thought Krishna suited you best, but... will Shakti do the job?

http://margareteshakti.zip.net/images/shakti.jpg

you must go easy on me. i'm still taking my first steps into your culture

Rafa Garros
06-14-2011, 07:38 AM
roland-******... if you want to invite mandy to the cinema, this is not how it works......
first you have to show some respect to this young lady, and pick up a bunch of rabbits for her ! ;)

http://img.over-blog.com/240x320/1/58/08/56/deco-MB/PICT0004.JPG

maybes you needs marytal aids to a pleasure your ladys but dont asume that everbodys haves the same misfautune

Gorecki
06-14-2011, 07:38 AM
Oh, I get it now:)

Stepanek himself approves

http://answers.bettor.com/images/Articles/thumbs/extralarge/2010_6_17-2010_6_17_18_4_12-jpg-12907.jpg

so does Gasquet's random kisser...

Gorecki
06-14-2011, 07:42 AM
maybes you needs marytal aids to a pleasure your ladys but dont asume that everbodys haves the same misfautune

this guy must be Manuel from Barcelona...

http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/jan2009/2/2/A3E5AA41-B422-8360-6F7DB6B16B2876AB.jpg

TheNatural
06-14-2011, 07:48 AM
How can I believe someone who said Stepanek was looking like prime Edberg on grass?:)


Context my friend.Context.
He was looking like prime edberg........for a few points ;)

mandy01
06-14-2011, 09:04 AM
i thought Krishna suited you best, but... will Shakti do the job?

http://margareteshakti.zip.net/images/shakti.jpg

you must go easy on me. i'm still taking my first steps into your culture
Aaaw! Thanks Gorecki :oops:
Another beautiful picture btw.Thanks for posting these.:)

Gorecki
06-14-2011, 09:41 AM
Aaaw! Thanks Gorecki :oops:
Another beautiful picture btw.Thanks for posting these.:)

lets see if i get this right....

Shukriyaa

zagor
06-14-2011, 09:43 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OHChT1NFBoY/TfD-rlsRMrI/AAAAAAAAAaE/tv5eM8rpDcg/s1600/max-mirnyi-daniel-nestor-french-open-2011-doubles-winners.jpg

how does this cump dare...

Can either of those two hold their own against a 15 year old girl who was former US junior #1 though? I'm just not sure how much value should be given to Max's opinion.

Gorecki
06-14-2011, 09:47 AM
Can either of those two hold their own against a 15 year old girl who was former US junior #1 though? I'm not sure how much value should be given to Max's opinion.

not sure...

what about holding it against someone who doesnt even play tennis but has the habit of quoting philosophers...

we all know how smart those kinds of people are!!

zagor
06-14-2011, 09:54 AM
not sure...

what about holding it against someone who doesnt even play tennis but has the habit of quoting philosophers...

we all know how smart those kinds of people are!!

Dammit,you're pushing your luck again Gorecki,she's gonna sick Treyo on you.We haven't seen Nam posting lately,haven't we? Let's hope that's just a coincidence.

mandy01
06-14-2011, 09:54 AM
lets see if i get this right....

Shukriyaa
Oh you're absolutely right
http://www.smileygarden.de/smilie/Schleifchen-Girls/smilie_girl_021.gif

..and you're welcome.:) (how d'you say that in Portuguese?)

Gorecki
06-14-2011, 10:05 AM
Oh you're absolutely right
http://www.smileygarden.de/smilie/Schleifchen-Girls/smilie_girl_021.gif

..and you're welcome.:) (how d'you say that in Portuguese?)

the coloquial situation would be :

Muito Obrigado
(Thank you) spoken : "Muytoo Obreegadu"

De Nada
(no reason for) spoken : "the Náda"

Cesc Fabregas
06-14-2011, 10:07 AM
Never mind India or Portugal, let's get back to topic which is Max is a clown.

mandy01
06-14-2011, 10:08 AM
Never mind India or Portugal, let's get back to topic which is Max is a clown.
That isn't the topic though.Read the thread title.