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iMpro
06-17-2011, 03:36 PM
It's basically between Roddick and Fish, but it looks like Roddick's draw is more promising.

Qubax
06-17-2011, 03:42 PM
As a comparison

Roddick plays:

1: Qualifier
2: Hanescu
3: F.Lopez - could be tricky, but not that bad
4: Monfils/Karlo/Janko
QF: Murray(probably Rod's best chance to get to the Semi's)

Fish plays:

1: Granollers
2: Kohlschreiber
3: Verdasco/Stepanek/Haase
4: Berydch
QF: Nadal

I think it's pretty clear that Fish has the tougher draw....

I'm also not sure if you reversed their draws it would matter....

Fish may be in decent form, but he's never made it past the 3rd round....

Qubax
06-17-2011, 04:00 PM
actually while Andy has the easier draw, you can argue that Fish is in the best form he's been in....and that he could be a dangerous floater.

Would be great for American tennis if these two could somehow make the SF's against each other...winner get's the highest American ranking

iMpro
06-17-2011, 04:17 PM
actually while Andy has the easier draw, you can argue that Fish is in the best form he's been in....and that he could be a dangerous floater.

Would be great for American tennis if these two could somehow make the SF's against each other...winner get's the highest American ranking

Either way, I would like to see at least one of them make it to the QFs. The U.S hasn't been represented well in a while

Raphael
06-17-2011, 04:28 PM
Roddick has the easier draw, but I think Fish will do better.

Tammo
06-17-2011, 04:32 PM
They will both lose in the quarters.

Lsmkenpo
06-17-2011, 04:34 PM
I am hoping Ryan Sweeting makes the third round, that would be great. :)

Tony48
06-17-2011, 04:40 PM
Fish is gonna do better than Roddick.

Qubax
06-17-2011, 04:41 PM
I am hoping Ryan Sweeting makes the third round, that would be great. :)

Would be nice, but I think Sweeting may not beat Andujar in the first round...

I guess we shouldn't completely forget about Isner, even if Querrey seems like a lost cause....

Tammo
06-17-2011, 04:42 PM
Jonh Isner has achance if the Mahut match doesn't go 71-69. If it goes 70-68 then he will be fine, i mean he's done it before.:)

Qubax
06-17-2011, 04:49 PM
Fish is gonna do better than Roddick.

Fish has a better game, a harder draw, and no deep-run W19 experience.

Roddick takes 2 of those 3...and probably get's deeper then Fish.

aceX
06-17-2011, 04:59 PM
No way Fish will get through Nadal.

Roddick can get through Murray though

Clay lover
06-17-2011, 05:01 PM
American? Serena Williams.

SoBad
06-17-2011, 05:02 PM
Is Donald Young in the main draw this year?

Qubax
06-17-2011, 05:03 PM
No way Fish will get through Nadal.

Roddick can get through Murray though

Well, the likelyhood of them both getting to Nadal and Murray is quite low...I mean it's probably more likely that they both lose before the QF's then both get there...

I think Fish will lose 4th round or before and I think Roddick will lose to Murray....but would just be ecstatic if he even got there and moreso if he gave him a good run for his money...

BobFL
06-17-2011, 05:09 PM
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq355/bobfl/1286431812_Clown_fish.jpg

NadalAgassi
06-17-2011, 05:28 PM
I dont see either getting past the quarters. Roddick could make the semis if Murray is upset though. I dont see him beating Murray at Wimbledon again this year. Roddick has a good enough draw he should make the quarters but on current form he could also lose earlier to someone like Lopez, Tipsy, or Monfils.

Fish has no shot at going the quarters. His chances of beating a healthy Nadal on any surface is zero, he doesnt have the mobility, mental toughness, or weaponary to pull it off. Even making the quarters will be tough. I would favor Berdych over Fish on grass. And Haase, Stepanek, and Kohl are all dangerous to him.

I would say Roddick is the one with more chance to do better but it is quite possible they lose in the exact same round. Very small chance of Fish going farther.

Lsmkenpo
06-17-2011, 05:34 PM
Is Donald Young in the main draw this year?

Yes he is, he is going to show his superior athletic ability developed from the USTA's new program which puts more emphasis into physical training and less into tennis skill.

Shangri La
06-17-2011, 05:37 PM
Michael Russell.

aceX
06-17-2011, 05:45 PM
M Russell Loses to Nadal in R1
R Sweeting Loses to Nadal in R2
M Fish Loses to Berdych in R4
R Kendrick Loses to Monfils in R2
A Roddick Loses to Murray in QF
J Isner Loses to Federer in R4
J Blake Loses to Beghdatis in R1

SoBad
06-17-2011, 05:51 PM
Yes he is, he is going to show his superior athletic ability developed from the USTA's new program which puts more emphasis into physical training and less into tennis skill.

Thanks for your very detailed answer, would you mind commenting on the US policy in the Middle East and perhaps shed some light on the JFK shooting while you're at it?

aceX
06-17-2011, 05:56 PM
Thanks for your very detailed answer, would you mind commenting on the US policy in the Middle East and perhaps shed some light on the JFK shooting while you're at it?

According to some, there was a second server!

Qubax
06-17-2011, 06:05 PM
M Russell Loses to Nadal in R1
R Sweeting Loses to Nadal in R2
M Fish Loses to Berdych in R4
R Kendrick Loses to Monfils in R2
A Roddick Loses to Murray in QF
J Isner Loses to Federer in R4
J Blake Loses to Beghdatis in R1

I am honestly only doubting the Isner result, just not sure big John will get that far.....maybe it will depend on how long Isner/Mahut II goes..... :?

Anyway, otherwise I think you could be bang on about this

Qubax
06-17-2011, 06:07 PM
Oh yah, Donald Young....forgot about him...whose he playing again? Is he actually touting being in better shape?

Regarding Roddick he is in fantastic shape, he needs less road work and more work on the court developing his shots...

iMpro
06-17-2011, 06:14 PM
What happened to Ryan Harrison? Did he even qualify

aceX
06-17-2011, 06:26 PM
I am honestly only doubting the Isner result, just not sure big John will get that far.....maybe it will depend on how long Isner/Mahut II goes..... :?

Anyway, otherwise I think you could be bang on about this

For some reason I get the feeling the Isner is going to roll mahut this year.

Qubax
06-17-2011, 06:29 PM
yah I think your right....

6-3, 7-6, 6-2

Something like that

stringertom
06-18-2011, 07:04 AM
What happened to Ryan Harrison? Did he even qualify

Hope this isn't scrubbed as a "Spoiler" but Harrison fought back from 2 sets down on Thursday to force a fifth set today, got another rain delay at 5-6, came back out and was broken immediately to lose.

Re: DYoung...he is in main draw and plays for the "I beat AMurray in straight sets" championship vs. Bogo. If the draw was rigged, the winner should get Murray in the 2nd round!

TennisBatman
06-18-2011, 07:16 AM
It's basically between Roddick and Fish, but it looks like Roddick's draw is more promising.

Isner has really good prospects this year. His performance last year against Mahut and his 5-set epic match against Nadal this year show promising results ahead.

Qubax
06-18-2011, 08:09 AM
Isner has really good prospects this year. His performance last year against Mahut and his 5-set epic match against Nadal this year show promising results ahead.

Yah Isner may be the forgotten man in all of this. I think I am kind of over looking him myself, and realistically with that serve, improving all court play and experience you can never count him out

A couple years ago he beat Roddick at the US Open...there is no saying that he's not the more. Dangerous of the two now.

Tammo
06-18-2011, 08:13 AM
How come I don't see Querry here?

BobFL
06-18-2011, 08:24 AM
How come I don't see Querry here?

Unfortunately he won't be playing at W...

Tammo
06-18-2011, 08:30 AM
Unfortunately he won't be playing at W...

Why? Was it an injury?

jaggy
06-18-2011, 08:37 AM
I know it was only Queens but I find it hard to think Roddick could beat Murray at Wimb after their match there, Murray destroyed him.

Cfidave
06-18-2011, 09:13 AM
I know it was only Queens but I find it hard to think Roddick could beat Murray at Wimb after their match there, Murray destroyed him.

Yes, it was a clinic. I see the same in store for Roddick at Wimbeldon. I don't see any Americans making it past the quarters.

dominikk1985
06-18-2011, 09:15 AM
They will both lose in the quarters.

this.........

RCizzle65
06-18-2011, 09:39 AM
Hope this isn't scrubbed as a "Spoiler" but Harrison fought back from 2 sets down on Thursday to force a fifth set today, got another rain delay at 5-6, came back out and was broken immediately to lose.

Re: DYoung...he is in main draw and plays for the "I beat AMurray in straight sets" championship vs. Bogo. If the draw was rigged, the winner should get Murray in the 2nd round!

:/ damn it, I would have liked to see him here.

Sneezy
06-18-2011, 09:42 AM
Do doubles players count in the conversation? If they do then, I think the Bryan Bros for sure.

egn
06-18-2011, 09:56 AM
Hey at least one american is guaranteed to be in the second round as Alex Bogomolov, Jr. faces off against Donald Young in round 1.

Srsly though Young will win it
R1 def A Bogomolov, Jr. 6-0 6-4 6-1
R2 def J I Chela 6-3 6-2 6-2
R3 def J Benneteau 6-4 6-1 6-4
R4 def R Stepanek 0-6 1-6 6-1 6-1 6-1
QF def M Raonic 7-6 6-7 7-6 6-7 10-8
two days of rain...
SF def A Murray 7-6 6-2 6-1
F def J Isner 7-6 6-7 6-7 7-6 242-240
final ends after the completion of the US Open

stringertom
06-18-2011, 10:01 AM
Why? Was it an injury?

Out indefinitely w/elbow problems.

stringertom
06-18-2011, 10:06 AM
According to some, there was a second server!

Was the second serve fired from Wimbledon's grassy knoll...AKA Murray's Mound?

SandV
06-18-2011, 02:45 PM
Ryan Harrison

SandV
06-18-2011, 02:49 PM
Harrison in as lucky loser

Mainad
06-18-2011, 03:41 PM
Was the second serve fired from Wimbledon's grassy knoll...AKA Murray's Mound?

It's still called Henman Hill.:cool:

MethodTennis
06-18-2011, 04:29 PM
As a comparison

QF: Murray(probably Rod's best chance to get to the Semi's)


I think roddick would have done better against novak or rafa tbh

stringertom
06-18-2011, 07:09 PM
It's still called Henman Hill.:cool:

It's called poetic license. Sorry my attempt at humor offends your over-exactness. Try to laugh next time...it makes the day go easier!

egn
06-18-2011, 08:07 PM
Harrison in as lucky loser

Thank god, he was looking great until that last rain delay threw off his rhythm. Nothing worse then sitting inside and then coming back out to serve to stay in the match after being cold for so long. Hope he does some damage here.

TheBoom
06-18-2011, 08:15 PM
Obviously isner is going to pull a huge upset against federer!!! Seriously i think so!!

Big_Dangerous
06-18-2011, 08:19 PM
M Russell Loses to Nadal in R1
R Sweeting Loses to Nadal in R2
M Fish Loses to Kohlschreiber in R2
R Kendrick Loses to Monfils in R2
A Roddick Loses to Murray in QF
J Isner Loses to Youzhny in R3
J Blake Loses to Beghdatis in R1


Fixed for you! :P