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Smasher08
07-09-2011, 03:29 PM
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I've delayed posting this due to shoulder issues that came up just before I started hitting with this set-up.

I'd been trying Turbotwist with Tourna Irradiated 17g in the crosses, and although it had goood bite and decent spin, when I put string savers in due to the crosses started fraying, the stringbed got uncomfortably stiff for me very fast, and I actually injured my shoulder from it while serving in a match. It's now been 5/6 weeks and I still haven't been able to serve since.

I have, however, been able to do everything but serve, and I had Turbotwist strung at 53 and Spiral Flex in the crosses at 50 to really soften things up. I'll be honest: at first I absolutely hated it. The combination felt mushy and underpowered and unresponsive to me, and had I gone and typed this then, my words would have been pretty scathing.

But then after 4 hours or so of hitting, things changed.

Maybe the Spiral Flex loosened up, but suddenly I could feel the ball on the strings, and was getting decent pace and spin. Not quite spin like from MSV Focus Hex, but decent Intellitour-like spin. I'd describe Turbotwist as playing like a muted version of Rip Control: almost as comfortable, even considering how much stiffer it truly is.

Spiral Flex is a decent syn gut cross that really softens up the mains, though after 20 hrs or so I can really feel that the tension has dropped. After using Intellitour 17 for 6 or 7 years, perhaps I've been spoiled because it's my benchmark string and I just don't think Spiral Flex is quite on par with it (although to be fair, very few strings are imo). Spiral Flex does a good job in virtually every category, but the only thing I think it's outstanding in is its price.

From the baseline this hybrid played pretty well, and were good for volleys too. I didn't, however, get to serve with them since whenever I tried I still felt a searing pain in the middle of my shoulder. No pain doing anything else.

All in all, I'd say the combination is pretty decent but not mind-blowingly great. I also say that my shoulder probably just does not mix with poly mains. I'll admit that I'm somewhat jealous of people who don't get arm or shoulder problems from using them, but after trying several I've come to the conclusion that they just don't work for me.

Next up for me will be natural gut.

Torres
07-09-2011, 03:38 PM
Spiral Flex 16 is actually a powerful string with not particularly good control.

I remember trying it out a couple of years ago in a YT Prestige MP at 57lbs CP and desperately trying to win the match on my serve and trying to keep rallies as short as possible because it never really gave me the confidence to really hit out at the ball.

At a guess, it would probably work best when mixed with a low powered poly (though I've no experience of TurboTwist).

bad_call
07-09-2011, 04:02 PM
have used both TT and SF in the MG Prestige Pro. suggest trying Weiss Cannon Black5Edge mains and Mantis Comfort Synthetic at around 47/50 or so. would comment more but have to go now.

Smasher08
07-09-2011, 04:18 PM
have used both TT and SF in the MG Prestige Pro. suggest trying Weiss Cannon Black5Edge mains and Mantis Comfort Synthetic at around 47/50 or so. would comment more but have to go now.

I appreciate your suggestion and would definitely like to hear more about it.

I'm afraid, however, that I'm probably not going back to using poly mains anytime soon: even when I played with MSV Focus Hex mains and Isospeed Professional Classic crosses I had minor arm issues cropping up. For whatever reason poly mains don't seem like a good fit for me.

smirker
07-10-2011, 01:47 AM
At a guess, it would probably work best when mixed with a low powered poly (though I've no experience of TurboTwist).

Indeed it does. My standard cross string in poly hybrids (in black) You get the control from the poly main and power/softness from spiral flex cross.

I didn't like it either as a full bed but as a cross with stiff mains it's ideal.

My favourite use for it currently is as a cross with B5E mains, this set-up in my leaded m-fils feels great.

Smasher08
07-10-2011, 02:43 AM
My favourite use for it currently is as a cross with B5E mains, this set-up in my leaded m-fils feels great.

Just out of curiosity, how do you find its tension maintenance compared to Gosen OGM? Do you notice any differences between natural coloured and black Spiral Flex in this regard?

Torres
07-10-2011, 03:10 AM
I have, however, been able to do everything but serve, and I had Turbotwist strung at 53 and Spiral Flex in the crosses at 50 to really soften things up. I'll be honest: at first I absolutely hated it. The combination felt mushy and underpowered and unresponsive to me, and had I gone and typed this then, my words would have been pretty scathing.

But then after 4 hours or so of hitting, things changed.

That's probably because your starting tension make no sense.

Why would you string the sitffer poly, 3lbs higher thant the softer synthetic gut?

marković
07-10-2011, 09:55 PM
have used both TT and SF in the MG Prestige Pro. suggest trying Weiss Cannon Black5Edge mains and Mantis Comfort Synthetic at around 47/50 or so. would comment more but have to go now.

Yep, 47/50 is a good starting point ! You have to take into account, that the Prestige mid's headsize is one of the smallest on the market ... around 580 cm² (90 sq. in.)
What I want to say is : what plays good for someone who uses a Prestige MP/APDC etc. at tension x/y won't necessarily play good for you ... because of the way smaller headsize ...
The first time I strung up WC Scorpion, I was really shocked how this string could get soo good reviews ...
I strung it at 53 lbs ... he he :-P way too high ^^ felt like a board !
Had to reduce tension (the dirty way ... ) but played awsome then :-) really soft ...
What I've read about TT is that it is softer than Scorpion, B5E, MB, and SS so that, should work for you ... especially with multi crosses ;-) (maybe try Professional Classic crosses ... instead of spiral flex, should play softer ...)
If you get the tension right it should play almost like a multi ;-)
And like someone already mentioned : string crosses 2 or 3 lbs higher ! (with iso pro at least 3 lbs higher ... !)
Hope I could help :-/

smirker
07-10-2011, 10:38 PM
Just out of curiosity, how do you find its tension maintenance compared to Gosen OGM? Do you notice any differences between natural coloured and black Spiral Flex in this regard?

Sorry, never tried Gosen but Spiral Flex holds tension similarly to Prince OG Duraflex in my opinion. The black version I prefer as it seems to resist movement more than the regular one. With the B5E it doesn't move at all which is more than can be said for it on it's own.