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dozu
10-16-2011, 07:23 PM
there has to be a happy medium.. too few, you get rusty... too many, you burn out.

season/weather is also a factor... I feel like 7/week is optimal.

you youngsters do what? 20/week? more?

Raid
10-16-2011, 07:32 PM
on court, 6 hours a day

then gym, 1 hour a day

dozu
10-16-2011, 07:46 PM
on court, 6 hours a day

then gym, 1 hour a day

kiddo you don't go to school?

Xizel
10-16-2011, 08:29 PM
4/d, 5/w, so 20/w.

dozu
10-16-2011, 08:34 PM
aren't you kids supposed to be studying?

Bergboy123
10-16-2011, 08:48 PM
Studying is overrated ;)

bhallic24
10-16-2011, 08:54 PM
aren't you kids supposed to be studying?

these kids are a buncha tennis stars. good earn their plate by playing the game, not reading text.

Xizel
10-16-2011, 08:55 PM
aren't you kids supposed to be studying?

That's why you need connections. Spend all your time playing tennis, then copy school work from someone.

OTMPut
10-16-2011, 09:48 PM
That's why you need connections. Spend all your time playing tennis, then copy school work from someone.

i can now see how a few smart people can make a lot of dough and send the bill everyone else, their kids, grand kids and their kids ...

dennis10is
10-16-2011, 10:30 PM
is all I need to recite the mantra of tennis to stay in "perfection".

watch the ball, bend your knees, smart wrist, windshield wiper, racket head speed, pronation, 2bh is better than 1bh, S&V is dead, kinetic chain.

That's it. Saying these things every week makes me feel like I'm the best player ever and that I'm qualified to post on the boards and tell people why they are wrong.

LeeD
10-17-2011, 04:29 PM
At age 24-28, 6 days a week, 6 hours court time each day. Then a couple years when motocross intruded on the tennis until I quit tennis. Those first 4 years, I'd usually manage to surf 4 days a week and shape at least 5 boards a week.
Now sadly, 1/2 hour the last 3 weeks.

dozu
10-17-2011, 05:00 PM
related to this topic - i often get burned out by golf..... this sucker of game gives you too much time to think, and a hacker of a golfer as I am, I have a few check points before I can take a swing.

on course play + driving range + simulator, this stuff usually gets me quite tired mentally if I am not careful.

just finished a tennis hit and was almost dethroned as the community park king status.... was just drawing blank out there, totally reactive to the balls.

not good.... gotta take a few days off from this golf stuff.

LeeD
10-17-2011, 05:50 PM
Yeah, there's nothing like burnout to force you to play reactive tennis, where you have no real strategy or alternative plan, you just hit the ball and see where it goes.
I burnout really easily, so lots of my worse losses are the result of me wanting to hit a certain way, but my opponent is not cooperating by hitting back the way I think he should. He's actually trying strategy and tactics!
Nice to be old, inflexible, and want to work on ONE thing a lot of days.
I"d rather have a nice black book full of good players than to be known as "king of the community courts". OTOH, I have no black book.
Oh, did I beat this to death? Yesterday went to new courts, Hopkins, where I used to teach swimming (at the pool, 1965). Practicing serves with balls older than 6 months, flat and thumb pushes in about 2", every flat serve still bounces thigh high on the backboard, 9 racketengths behind the baseline.
Few twists come close to bouncing to the back/sideboards.
Most topspin second serves hit about thigh high or higher.
While hitting some serves, slow motion moving around, a lady walks across the opposite side to an open court. TWO instructors, one of whom I"ve never seen before, yell to the lady "You're walking into the firing line, watch out", during a pause in my serves. She strolls thru, of course, while I wait a bit. Next serve goes thru the cyclone fence about thigh high, one after, a second serve with those same flat balls, hits the fence at HER HEAD HEIGHT, and both serves were IN.
She and her male partner decide to move from the adjoining court to one farther away...:-?:-?

dozu
10-17-2011, 08:51 PM
yes Lee, the horse was already dead.

The Bawss
10-17-2011, 10:24 PM
yes Lee, the horse was already dead.

ZING.


10char

arche3
10-18-2011, 03:33 AM
Video of your serve hitting the fence in even 2 bounces or it didn't happen.
It's like ntrp inflation.... Your serves reach the service line on one bounce and your counting that as the back fence. I saw your serve video. It's maybe 60 mph.

Yeah, there's nothing like burnout to force you to play reactive tennis, where you have no real strategy or alternative plan, you just hit the ball and see where it goes.
I burnout really easily, so lots of my worse losses are the result of me wanting to hit a certain way, but my opponent is not cooperating by hitting back the way I think he should. He's actually trying strategy and tactics!
Nice to be old, inflexible, and want to work on ONE thing a lot of days.
I"d rather have a nice black book full of good players than to be known as "king of the community courts". OTOH, I have no black book.
Oh, did I beat this to death? Yesterday went to new courts, Hopkins, where I used to teach swimming (at the pool, 1965). Practicing serves with balls older than 6 months, flat and thumb pushes in about 2", every flat serve still bounces thigh high on the backboard, 9 racketengths behind the baseline.
Few twists come close to bouncing to the back/sideboards.
Most topspin second serves hit about thigh high or higher.
While hitting some serves, slow motion moving around, a lady walks across the opposite side to an open court. TWO instructors, one of whom I"ve never seen before, yell to the lady "You're walking into the firing line, watch out", during a pause in my serves. She strolls thru, of course, while I wait a bit. Next serve goes thru the cyclone fence about thigh high, one after, a second serve with those same flat balls, hits the fence at HER HEAD HEIGHT, and both serves were IN.
She and her male partner decide to move from the adjoining court to one farther away...:-?:-?

Caesar
10-18-2011, 05:23 AM
Man, some of you guys have no life at all.

I play maybe 5 hours a week, sometimes 7 if I fill in for another doubles competition. That's plenty - too much, almost.

arche3
10-18-2011, 05:45 AM
Approx 4 hours week.
1 match and 1 practice session. Sometimes only one of the 2 if I get too busy.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
10-18-2011, 12:15 PM
These days, a regular week is 1-2 hours of tennis and 1-2 times i go and have a run in the forrest for about 20-25 minutes.

Back in the days, 15-20 hours of tennis/week.
3-4 hours/week in the gym, and 4-5 hours of physical fitness sessions/week.

No wonder i gained some weight! :-? ;)

dozu
10-18-2011, 12:52 PM
the 2 posts above from arche3 and MoP bring up this question -

why do some people need less hours for maintenance - (well, assuming you guys arche3 and MoP still play at good level with 2-4 hours/week.)..

I used to play with this guy, who can go a couple of months without hitting, and come out play like he'd been playing every day... it was quite amazing.

for me, 2 hours/week will probably demote me to community park slave level.

yonexpurestorm
10-18-2011, 04:58 PM
i work full time 40 hrs a week and still get in about 5 days a week at an average of 2.5 hrs a session.

MarinaHighTennis
10-19-2011, 12:25 PM
I play tennis 6 days/wk, 3-4 hour sessions

TheMagicianOfPrecision
10-19-2011, 12:41 PM
Well, i think the foundation was built for me and my game decades ago when i practiced like a maniac, these days 2 hours/week is enough for me to sustain a good level, i sure aint getting any better but i dont think im getting worse either. Or am I?

I miss the days when my biggest problem was if my forehand was off or not.

I work 50 hours/week so i dont have the time nor the energy to practice that much even though I still think tennis is the greatest and most fun thing in the world.

Im getting old, I sound like the guy the Boss sings about in "glory days"

CDestroyer
10-19-2011, 01:24 PM
Well, i think the foundation was built for me and my game decades ago when i practiced like a maniac, these days 2 hours/week is enough for me to sustain a good level, i sure aint getting any better but i dont think im getting worse either. Or am I?

I miss the days when my biggest problem was if my forehand was off or not.

I work 50 hours/week so i dont have the time nor the energy to practice that much even though I still think tennis is the greatest and most fun thing in the world.

Im getting old, I sound like the guy the Boss sings about in "glory days"

Come on man your what 34? I play guys that are 63 at the 5.0 level and I never hear about them whining about their age. I infer that they just don't dwell on it and do the best they can without *****ing.

JRstriker12
10-19-2011, 01:32 PM
Summer:
Tennis: 6-8 hours a week (3-4X a week at about 2hours per hit)
Gym: 1-2 hours a week

Winter:
Tennis: 4.5 hours a week indoors ( 3X a week at about 1.5 hours per hit)
Gym: 3 hours a week

JRstriker12
10-19-2011, 01:36 PM
Come on man your what 34? I play guys that are 63 at the 5.0 level and I never hear about them whining about their age. I infer that they just don't dwell on it and do the best they can without *****ing.

IMHO - it's about perspective.

I think a lot of guys who played high-level tennis notice their level drop off drastically as they age and miss the old days.

I'm in my late 30's, used to play a little high school, and my game is better now than it every was as there's a slight chance I might get the bump to 4.5. I see upside, guys who were hot shots in their youth prob see down-side.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
10-19-2011, 02:04 PM
Come on man your what 34? I play guys that are 63 at the 5.0 level and I never hear about them whining about their age. I infer that they just don't dwell on it and do the best they can without *****ing.

I just turned 32.

I agree with you, although it IS hard (atleast for me) for my ego to accept that I cant do things on court I could only 10 years ago. Thats a fact.

LeeD
10-19-2011, 02:28 PM
Try aging 35 years past your tennis prime, accumulating 4 collarbone breaks, 3 broken legs that required pins, plates, wires, and some actual phillips head screws, separate your hitting shoulder 3 times, dislocating it once (the left side...right side twice), then a non healing gimpy left (that's your RIGHT) ankle, get vided posted by a bud, posted at the end of a rainy winter, and you guys just knock my motion out of the ballpark !

TheMagicianOfPrecision
10-19-2011, 02:33 PM
I understand what you are saying LeeD, but with all due respect, i have been to the moon, i dont wanna fall down to the clouds, you know...That is hard to accept

SeriousSummer
10-19-2011, 02:50 PM
My weekly range is from 4 to 9 hours at age 59. I try to play at least twice (2 hours each) per week, three times if I can. On a good week, I'll also go and practice up to 3 times for about an hour each.

I'm still playing singles, almost no doubles, and I need at least a day in between matches to recover, so three times per week is my maximum.

LeeD
10-19-2011, 03:09 PM
MofP, I fully understand.
35 years ago, I was a better player, and even had a better serve. I know that's hard to believe, but I say it's true.:mad:
Now wait until YOU make it to 62 years old, and let's see how your game becomes.
Everyone has to deal with advancing age. Just because some players quit, while other's keep trying to play, doesn't mean that ONE path is the glorious one.
I've quit more than a handfull of times, and came back a few more.

GuyClinch
10-19-2011, 03:19 PM
The 'number' depends on alot of factors..

Do you have coaching? If you have coaching that on court number can certainly go up as you will have productive hitting sessions rather then just blindly whacking the ball back and forth.

Are you in good shape? The better shape you are in - the more your body can tolerate playing. If you are out of shape your body will start to 'fall apart' with the extended wear and tear.

What is your age? Older players start to suffer more injuries and have slower recovery times.

Tennis doesn't IMHO provide a perfect stimulus for fitness - despite what tennis advocates want to tell. It's a fun activity - that's not necessarily BAD for your health and it can be good.

It's really up to each player to find his optimal level. For most of us we are constrained by either court cost/availability or work schedule so its well below our 'max' number. Not to mention most of us get bored..

So it works something like this.

Kids at a tennis academy can probably handle 50 hours or so.. College guys with some coaching I would guess that number slips to 40 or so. For young adults - I think it falls more to 30. And so on and so forth until you get to out of shape seniors - who can probably only handle 10 hours of doubles a week..

Caesar
10-19-2011, 07:32 PM
Personally I'd say that if tennis burnout is a concern for you, you're either:

a) a pro,
b) training to become a pro; or
c) someone who needs to get their life priorities in order.

arche3
10-20-2011, 05:51 AM
Agree. Or your the king of public courts and you have to defend the throne. :)

Personally I'd say that if tennis burnout is a concern for you, you're either:

a) a pro,
b) training to become a pro; or
c) someone who needs to get their life priorities in order.