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BirdWalkR
10-24-2011, 02:41 PM
be as brutal as you'd like just tell me what i need to work on more. Trying to not make my motion so jerky and hit two down the T and two out wide (kinda) want to start working on landing inside the court more. How does it look?

Old Serve
http://s999.photobucket.com/albums/af114/BirdWalk-R/?action=view&current=1stServe.mp4
New and (Hopefully) Improved
http://s999.photobucket.com/albums/af114/BirdWalk-R/?action=view&current=Final.mp4

dozu
10-24-2011, 02:50 PM
hat no hat, jacket no jacket.

I am dazzled and confused :)

BirdWalkR
10-24-2011, 04:13 PM
hat no hat, jacket no jacket.

I am dazzled and confused :)

Figure noone wanted to wait around for 45 seconds while i took my jacket off :)

ski racer
10-24-2011, 04:29 PM
the main issue is see is your over rotating. try to push all your weight and power up and forward into the shot and instead of falling off to the side. try practicing this by just hitting from the Trophy pose and not worrying about where or how you hit the ball just that all weight goes through the shot without veering off to the side.

in regards to your motion as a whole you've got some hitches so you might want to try revamping it to this video from the serve doc at Bolleteri. It really helped me a lot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixx-MCC7D88&feature=channel_video_title

I had pretty similar problems with the hitches and falling off to the side which im now working through. if you fix these thing you'll notice a huge difference in power and consistency and you'll have a very solid serve.

charliefedererer
10-24-2011, 05:45 PM
ski racer has hit the nail on the head.


There are two great ways to use your whole power your serve. One is to coil and uncoil. You are doing that.

But the other great way, and in fact what should be the dominant force, is to form your body into the shape of a bow in your trophy pose, and then "reverse the bow" as rapidly as possible.

Without this forward motion dominating your body movement, you will continue to spin on your left leg.


From the side you want to get more of this positioning:
http://www.tennisquotes.com/gallery/DJOKOVIC_SERVE.jpg
The big thing you should be aiming for is a near vertical shoulder angle, with your upper body tilted sideways toward toward the fence. To counterweight the upper body lean, the hip has to be pushed out toward the court you are serving into.
Will Hamilton of Fuzzy Yellow Balls emphasizes this in the following video:
Serve Tips: Lead with the Hip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgeYmEScfgQ

Notice that this is also main message in the following video:
Nick Bollettieri-Sonic Serve.wmv http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajoZ0f7hw-A

Robin Soderling takes it to an extreme with a very powerful bow/reverse the bow motion (and relatively little coil/uncoil) but you can sense the power in this slow motion annotated video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a56pvP1i6x8



Because the force from a dramatic "reversing the bow" are so powerful, you will also have to learn how to land on your left leg, and kick backwards to maintain your balance. Will Hamilton of course has an excellent video explaining this aspect as well:
Leg Kick on Tennis Serve http://blip.tv/fuzzy-yellow-balls/leg-kick-on-tennis-serve-1190196

Good luck!

RafatheChamp
10-24-2011, 06:39 PM
One thing that I am currently being taught is the full extension of the upper body. My coach showed me this picture that helped...http://www.secsportsfan.com/images/tennis-serve1.jpg

RafatheChamp
10-24-2011, 06:40 PM
^It could help you too.

Tebow
10-25-2011, 05:44 AM
Dude, that is a ghetto court lol

spaceman_spiff
10-25-2011, 06:35 AM
Looks like you're getting more pace and wider range of placement (can't tell if spin is more or the same). It's not a finished products, but it's improving.

The other guys have already listed some good tips.

LeeD
10-27-2011, 02:54 PM
You are definetely swinging faster, and TRYING to use more body.
However, all that extraneous pre trophy movement, you are wandering all over the map from prep to trophy, takes away any chance you have of gathering arm speed and forward momentum.
Forward momentum you totally lack, as you move right towards the ball, but you don't end up inside the court at all.
Try limiting all that pre trophy position movement, and use MORE movement towards your target after the trophy position to the finish of your serve.

BirdWalkR
10-29-2011, 12:19 PM
You are definetely swinging faster, and TRYING to use more body.
However, all that extraneous pre trophy movement, you are wandering all over the map from prep to trophy, takes away any chance you have of gathering arm speed and forward momentum.
Forward momentum you totally lack, as you move right towards the ball, but you don't end up inside the court at all.
Try limiting all that pre trophy position movement, and use MORE movement towards your target after the trophy position to the finish of your serve.

Sorry I don't understand. When you say "extraneous pre trophy movement" do you mean my beginning windup?