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tennis_pro
12-07-2011, 07:02 AM
full article: http://www.atpchampionstour.com/news204.html

celoft
12-07-2011, 08:00 AM
You don't say....

Sartorius
12-07-2011, 08:08 AM
Coming soon to YouTube: "Safin smashes microphone"

Joe Pike
12-07-2011, 10:18 AM
:cry:full article: http://www.atpchampionstour.com/news204.html



Yeah, Putin's party ...
Makes you lose any respect towards Safin.

Mustard
12-07-2011, 10:20 AM
United Russia are the party of the ex-bureaucrats turned mafia plunderers. A lot of them were in the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, and then dropped their "communist beliefs" like a stone when the Soviet Union collapsed due to their totalitarian bureaucracy.

aphex
12-07-2011, 10:21 AM
:cry:



Yeah, Putin's party ...
Makes you lose any respect towards Safin.

I don't get this obsession that people (such as you) have over tennis players as anything more than what they are: tennis players.

BobFL
12-07-2011, 11:46 AM
United Russia are the party of the ex-bureaucrats turned mafia plunderers. A lot of them were in the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, and then dropped their "communist beliefs" like a stone when the Soviet Union collapsed due to their totalitarian bureaucracy.

Don't forget KGB, the crucial part and recruiting center.

helloworld
12-07-2011, 11:49 AM
Marat Safin for President!! :D

pound cat
12-07-2011, 01:57 PM
Marat Safin for President!! :D

Sampras also thought Safin would be #1 for a long time (said after he lost to Safin in the 2000 USO final)

He was #1 for 7 weeks.

Mustard
12-07-2011, 02:00 PM
Sampras also thought Safin would be #1 for a long time (said after he lost to Safin in the 2000 USO final)

He was #1 for 7 weeks.

9 weeks ;)

20th November 2000 - 3rd December 2000 (2 weeks)
29th January 2001 - 25th February 2001 (4 weeks)
2nd April 2001 - 22nd April 2001 (3 weeks)

pound cat
12-07-2011, 02:25 PM
9 weeks ;)

20th November 2000 - 3rd December 2000 (2 weeks)
29th January 2001 - 25th February 2001 (4 weeks)
2nd April 2001 - 22nd April 2001 (3 weeks)



mea culpa, mea culpa,,,,,

kiki
12-07-2011, 03:31 PM
I don't get this obsession that people (such as you) have over tennis players as anything more than what they are: tennis players.

No, the title of this thread clearly supports Pike´s attempt to portray Safin´s politichal choices.In the US you know very little about Europe, but in Europe, it certainly sucks " United Russia" and it sucks to me what Safin has done.

DanaKz
12-07-2011, 08:00 PM
Great progress I'll say - from ATP#1 to member of Party of Crooks and Thieves.

aphex
12-07-2011, 11:57 PM
No, the title of this thread clearly supports Pike´s attempt to portray Safin´s politichal choices.In the US you know very little about Europe, but in Europe, it certainly sucks " United Russia" and it sucks to me what Safin has done.

Yes, I'm sure you know far more than the people who voted for him...lol

PS. I am in Europe

Bartelby
12-08-2011, 12:44 AM
The good news is that the Communist Party is really the most popular party in Russia and all the pro-liberal parties went down the toilet with Putin's mob.

kiki
12-08-2011, 12:44 AM
Yes, I'm sure you know far more than the people who voted for him...lol

PS. I am in Europe

Russian people are the perfect definition for " gregarious".It´s always been the same, from the zars and bolcheviques till Yeltsin or Putin.They´ll never learn to think by themselves.Wonderful and terrific potential country but people there just live like zoombies, and I like the russian culture very much.

namelessone
12-08-2011, 12:57 AM
Russian people are the perfect definition for " gregarious".It´s always been the same, from the zars and bolcheviques till Yeltsin or Putin.They´ll never learn to think by themselves.Wonderful and terrific potential country but people there just live like zoombies, and I like the russian culture very much.

And which people(nation) would you say "think for themselves"?

tusharlovesrafa
12-08-2011, 12:58 AM
And which people(nation) would you say "think for themselves"?

What about Americanos??:)

kiki
12-08-2011, 01:00 AM
And which people(nation) would you say "think for themselves"?

UK,France,Italy,Spain,Australia,Canada,Netherlands ,Scandinavian and, in a lesser degree, US and Germany.Not certainly Russia.Story proves it.

gregor.b
12-08-2011, 01:14 AM
Awesome. He's been unemployed for what, 3 or 4 years now and now he's a pollie? Back to chicks,partying and booze. They say what goes around comes around and HE works in mysterious ways. Just that nobody knew that HE was Safin.

Bartelby
12-08-2011, 01:18 AM
Political parties are a path to wealth both over here and other there.

kiki
12-08-2011, 01:22 AM
Awesome. He's been unemployed for what, 3 or 4 years now and now he's a pollie? Back to chicks,partying and booze. They say what goes around comes around and HE works in mysterious ways. Just that nobody knew that HE was Safin.

Unfortunately for him, Berlusconi´s partying days are over.Must look somewhere else for chicks, then.

pound cat
12-08-2011, 03:53 AM
UK,France,Italy,Spain,Australia,Canada,Netherlands ,Scandinavian and, in a lesser degree, US and Germany.Not certainly Russia.Story proves it.


Realistically you would be hard pressed to think of poeple anywhere who think on a level above Walmart or the last football game....anywhere.

Ask anyone you know what the last book they read was or the last serious discussion they had. Go on, I dare you.

Please report the results in this thread.

Why you think that we Canadians as are individual thinkers? Have you ever talked to a Canadian? The very fact that you talk about groups of people ie countries representing the whole, negates the idea that you view them as individuals.

Nostradamus
12-08-2011, 03:58 AM
What kind of man is marat safin. i know he has a big forehand and lots of girlfriends but not sure what kind of human being he is ?

joeri888
12-08-2011, 04:07 AM
Not a fan of Putin or his party, but the American anxiety towards anything social/socialistic or even communistic is as historically logical as it is idiotic indoctrination.
Putin is an *******, but I doubt that the people who criticize Safin have really looked into the parties plans and stuff. In my opinion, being a republican is just as stupid, but hey.. I'm not living in a country where anything social is and government driven is forbidden and where a president who wants to make healthcare affordable for all is called a communist.

pound cat
12-08-2011, 04:30 AM
What kind of man is marat safin. i know he has a big forehand and lots of girlfriends but not sure what kind of human being he is ?

He's smart, well-spoken, hunourous, gregarious, well read, sincere, generous and kind.

On the other hand he has been know to give up when things aren't going his way, lazy in his professional life, and lacking in personal ambition and largely dependent on his tennis talent for his success. Many critics see him as an underachiever, but he says he does what he wants to do..in tennis and his life. He is (impetuous ) suddently deciding to climb mountains in Tibet, likes people, parties, and has many friends, and is charismatic.

Since he retired he has taken an active role in setting up tennis courts and equipment for you people in various parts of Russia.

His venture into politics is connected with his interest in sports and he wants to see the government take a more active in promoting Russian sports.

I hope he is up to the man in suits image and can sustain his interest in politics.

Good luck to him.

Crazy man
12-08-2011, 08:20 AM
He's smart, well-spoken, hunourous, gregarious, well read, sincere, generous and kind.

On the other hand he has been know to give up when things aren't going his way, lazy in his professional life, and lacking in personal ambition and largely dependent on his tennis talent for his success. Many critics see him as an underachiever, but he says he does what he wants to do..in tennis and his life. He is (impetuous ) suddently deciding to climb mountains in Tibet, likes people, parties, and has many friends, and is charismatic.

Since he retired he has taken an active role in setting up tennis courts and equipment for you people in various parts of Russia.

His venture into politics is connected with his interest in sports and he wants to see the government take a more active in promoting Russian sports.

I hope he is up to the man in suits image and can sustain his interest in politics.

Good luck to him.

On the whole this was a good post. But this is where I completely disagree with you. Firstly, Safin has won many matches he could have easily folded in, just look at his epic matches with Roddick, Federer and Agassi at the AO for different reasons - Roddick came out hot, Federer was always ahead until the 5th and had match points and Agassi had the momentum going into the 5the set after comming back to 2-2 in sets. Just a few examples of Safin not giving up.



Safin wasn't lazy, and tried hard. Otherwise he wouldn't have continued until 2009 when everyone knew he wasn't the same player after his injury in 2005. Safin worked his *** off pre-season in 2004 and 2005, not to mention working extremely hard in 2008.


Where Safin was an underachiever was A) Not making the most of his abilities when on court. B) Horiffic injuries + small injuries and C) His temper and attitude.




Did he work as hard as he could? No. Was he in Federer, Sampras', Nadal's league of 'trying hard'? Absolutely not. But that doesn't mean he didn't try. He saw tennis as a job and made time for a good life outside. Not being some sad guy holding a tennis racket 12 hours a day.

Mustard
12-08-2011, 10:09 AM
Safin was never dull to watch as a tennis player. Watching his matches, especially at the Australian Open, was like a rollercoaster. I miss him on the tour.

CCNM
12-08-2011, 10:13 AM
Uhhh, congratulations Marat.

dParis
12-08-2011, 04:35 PM
Not a fan of Putin or his party, but the American anxiety towards anything social/socialistic or even communistic is as historically logical as it is idiotic indoctrination.
Putin is an *******, but I doubt that the people who criticize Safin have really looked into the parties plans and stuff. In my opinion, being a republican is just as stupid, but hey.. I'm not living in a country where anything social is and government driven is forbidden and where a president who wants to make healthcare affordable for all is called a communist.
Which is one way to explain why it sounds like you are talking out of your rear end.

OTMPut
12-08-2011, 04:41 PM
Why so much Putin hate?

Mustard
12-08-2011, 04:44 PM
Why so much Putin hate?

Where shall we start? He's the tsar in all but name.

Bartelby
12-08-2011, 05:35 PM
There were reactionary Tsars and reforming Tsars - and it is Russia, after all, so it's been on the wrong historical track since the Tsar entered the First World War.

Mustard
12-08-2011, 06:10 PM
I think the 1917 revolution is the single greatest event in history.

adamX012
12-08-2011, 06:41 PM
full article: http://www.atpchampionstour.com/news204.html

I am just saying....

Could he be a good governor or another Arnold governor in CA?

Well, I like a lot as a tennis player... but in term of political brain.... I would suggest my co-worker, An American born Russian. He is hot but has a girlfriend.

OTMPut
12-08-2011, 06:45 PM
Where shall we start? He's the tsar in all but name.

And the POTUS isn't with all the indefinite detentions and all?

In some places it is more instituionalised and "well presented" through "state guided" media.

In some cultures subtelty is not so valued. They tend to take more philosophical view.

adamX012
12-08-2011, 06:54 PM
And the POTUS isn't with all the indefinite detentions and all?

In some places it is more instituionalised and "well presented" through "state guided" media.

In some cultures subtelty is not so valued. They tend to take more philosophical view.

Philosophical view? Hey, no way.. it should be political views right?

just sharing not big ideal

dParis
12-08-2011, 07:29 PM
And the POTUS isn't with all the indefinite detentions and all?

Actually, no. Their circumstances makes drawing parallels absurd.

Need we go on with the political hackery?

lonux
12-09-2011, 03:58 AM
You can say about Safin whatever you want here, but he is a serious opportunist. Does he even have political knowledge?

I don't lik United Russia, since their reign over Russia is quite undemocratic and to me, it seems quite obvious Safin just joined that party to make some money.

Not that I'm completely against United Russia, because, to be fair, the whole political life in Russia is messed up, and I'm quite sure things wouldn't be better their if the communists were reigning.

Bartelby
12-09-2011, 04:44 AM
The POTUS is both head of state and head of government, just like a monarch or tsar of yesteryear. The constitution forgot to separate the two things that most need separating.

kiki
12-09-2011, 12:55 PM
Realistically you would be hard pressed to think of poeple anywhere who think on a level above Walmart or the last football game....anywhere.

Ask anyone you know what the last book they read was or the last serious discussion they had. Go on, I dare you.

Please report the results in this thread.

Why you think that we Canadians as are individual thinkers? Have you ever talked to a Canadian? The very fact that you talk about groups of people ie countries representing the whole, negates the idea that you view them as individuals.

Canadia,Kiwis,Wallabies and most of west europe countries believe in social protection and welfare state, which is a clear signal of matureness and social consense.They express it in their own way, yet they are quite alike.

The fact that welfare state is in discussion, does not mean it is probably the greatest human achievement of the last century.And those countries represent it better than the rest of the world...together.

pound cat
12-09-2011, 05:06 PM
Canadia,Kiwis,Wallabies and most of west europe countries believe in social protection and welfare state, which is a clear signal of matureness and social consense.They express it in their own way, yet they are quite alike.

The fact that welfare state is in discussion, does not mean it is probably the greatest human achievement of the last century.And those countries represent it better than the rest of the world...together.


Canada is a welfare state in the sense that we are concerned with the well-being of each individual as shown by our generous welfare systems, free health care, and open-minded immigration policies. Citizens pay high taxes to maintain these policies, but we all benefit from them.

The only short-coming is Canada's historical and on-going paternalistic treatment of the aborigal populaition, many of who live in inhumae condiitons. BTW Apartheid was modelled after the Canadian reserve system in the 1940's by S. Africa.

For current articles about what's happening with aboriginals in Canada Google Atawapiskat.

A sociialist leaning country is by no means an egalitarin, one and Canada is a prime example of this.

Shame on us.

pound cat
12-09-2011, 05:13 PM
This is a very interesting thread. And it all start with a Safin discussion as many threads have over the years.


Davai MAPAT

MAPAT is how his first name is writtin in Cyllabics, the type of alphabet Russians use.


Davai (English alphabet, Russian word) is also used in ads for selling cigarettes!

Subventricular Zone
12-09-2011, 08:56 PM
What is it with athletes becoming politicians? Can't they stick to what they do best? :oops:

kiki
12-10-2011, 12:43 AM
Canada is a welfare state in the sense that we are concerned with the well-being of each individual as shown by our generous welfare systems, free health care, and open-minded immigration policies. Citizens pay high taxes to maintain these policies, but we all benefit from them.

The only short-coming is Canada's historical and on-going paternalistic treatment of the aborigal populaition, many of who live in inhumae condiitons. BTW Apartheid was modelled after the Canadian reserve system in the 1940's by S. Africa.

For current articles about what's happening with aboriginals in Canada Google Atawapiskat.

A sociialist leaning country is by no means an egalitarin, one and Canada is a prime example of this.

Shame on us.

True, same as Australia and New Zealand ( and many western europe countries in regards of ethnical minorities like gipsies).I buy your whole argument.

But , in Europe, we tend to see ( or have a romantic picture which cannot be true) Canada as an european country placed in the American continent, just as we see A&NZ european countries based in Oceania, israel and european country in the middle east and, possibly, some part of South Africa´s white elite as europeans placed in Africa.While, somehow, Japan would be an asiatic country that wants to be european, if you get what I mean.

US is a western country but it is the complement of Europe culture, both for the good things and for the bad things.What we lack they have it and what they lack, we have it.

kiki
12-10-2011, 12:47 AM
What is it with athletes becoming politicians? Can't they stick to what they do best? :oops:

Mohamed Ali was a great politicianĦĦĦĦ:)