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Fate Archer
12-15-2011, 06:46 AM
Former World No. 8 Mikhail Youzhny has graduated from the University of Moscow with a PhDs in Philosophy. In a ceremony held at the Russian State University of Physical Education, Sport, Youth and Tourism on 15th November, the Russian tennis player answered approximately 20 questions about his work before all 16 members of the scientific council approved his PhDs.

"I took my coach (of 17 years), Boris Sobkin, and my family and friends as well, and the guy who helped me with the degree," recalled Youzhny, speaking from Thailand, where he has trained every off-season since 2000. "There were some professors from the university there. I was a bit nervous because it was something new, it’s not like a tennis match I’m going to play, which I do every week. I was answering questions and reasoning, so of course it’s different. But actually, when I think about what I said, it’s my life, what I’m doing every day on court."

The 29-year-old Youzhny began studying for the degree in 2005, knowing that with limited free time as he competed on the ATP World Tour 11 months of the year, it would take him longer than the usual three-year period to complete it.

"I didn’t mind if it took 5, 6, 7, 8 years, when I had some free time I could do it slowly," explained the Muscovite, who reached a career-high of World No. 8 in the South African Airways ATP Rankings in the midst of his studies in January 2008. "I feel good because I took the time to do what I wanted to do, I finished it, and I’m happy with that.

"I didn’t work on the degree when I was at tournaments, but when I came back to Russia I would work on my degree and write about how I see situations: how I feel and explain how I feel about the attitude of tennis, the plusses and minuses, why you have to do certain things."

Youzhny’s work explores the philosophy and attitudes of tennis, and he hopes it will be of benefit to aspiring coaches and players.

"This is my life; I have played tennis on the ATP World Tour all my life," said Youzhny. "I wanted to explain to young players and give them some information about what I think about tennis. So it is mainly for young players and young coaches.

"I didn’t do the degree to help my tennis career on the court, but maybe it can help some coaches working with young players. I speak about it to some young guys I see and how I think they’re doing, but it is mainly for young coaches who want to be a good coach."

After completing his preparations in Thailand, where he is training with young players, Dr. of Philosophy Youzhny will begin his 2012 campaign at the Qatar ExxonMobil Open in Doha, before competing at the first Grand Slam of the year at the Australian Open in Melbourne.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/~/media/74B4AD87C5BC4215A1C8606957B6E2F8.ashx


http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2011/12/Features/Youzhny-Earns-Philosophy-Doctorate.aspx

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That's great news and shows that players can have pretty successful careers and still work in their free time to get superior graduations and achieve other good things in life.

A player's tennis career does not last that long and is expected to reach somewhere in their 30's or earlier, so planning things for the future after their careers are over or having a backup plan if things are not going that well is always a great option.

I would like to see Youzhny's work, it sounds quite insightful and a good read for people who wonder what are some of the many choices and challenges of becoming and being a reasonably successful tennis player. Hopefully it will be posted somewhere in the net and it's in english :p

veritech
12-15-2011, 06:55 AM
impressive! it's always a breath of fresh air to see professional athletes pursue, and in this case achieve, goals of higher education.

much credit for youzhny getting his doctorate! who woulda thunk it?

Bartelby
12-15-2011, 07:08 AM
Anyone got a thesis summary???

Tammo
12-15-2011, 07:08 AM
Congrat to the Colonel. Didn't Raonic graduate before becoming a pro tennis player?

dlk
12-15-2011, 07:09 AM
I think that is awesome! He's certainly moved into one my 'favorites' category. I'd like to see a study comparing IQs or similar testing of knowledge, of varying atheletes. At first glance, the NBA would be last; tennis seems to have some intelligent participants, despite many starting a pro career so early (I'm just basing this on hearing them speak briefly on basic topics).

fadi edwan
12-15-2011, 07:11 AM
Finally...... A player can do more than "NUDITY" in his/her empty time! Which prof to public that players can think exactly like "NORMAL" people !!!!

Congratulations :)

Bartelby
12-15-2011, 07:13 AM
Tipsarevic also does philosophy, but philosophy and tennis as topic???

Tammo
12-15-2011, 07:13 AM
I think that is awesome! He's certainly moved into one my 'favorites' category. I'd like to see a study comparing IQs or similar testing of knowledge, of varying atheletes. At first glance, the NBA would be last; tennis seems to have some intelligent participants

Well according to my tennis coach, tennis players and runners are the smartest athletes.

dlk
12-15-2011, 07:18 AM
Tipsarevic also does philosophy, but philosophy and tennis as topic???

I thought I had heard that.

pound cat
12-15-2011, 07:21 AM
Here's a list of subjects at the university. Youzhny would have a PhD in the psychology of sports...not in philosophy which would be offered by a liberal arts university, but not here.




Hmm..what is the meaning of the fuzzy ball which is used by tennis players...what is the meaning of tennis of tennis?

These sorts of things would be examined in
philosphy of tennis 101.



Great for Youzhny...Phd, and Safin in parliament? Very interesting

dlk
12-15-2011, 07:24 AM
Well according to my tennis coach, tennis players and runners are the smartest athletes.

It seems like fans of tennis are above average in intelligence. You come to this site and there are people discussing World economics and physics (okay some are talking about what Seles wore at Wimbledon in 1991).

Fate Archer
12-15-2011, 07:33 AM
Tipsarevic also does philosophy, but philosophy and tennis as topic???

Yeah, why not?

I once thought that the way the tennis score works is really reminiscent of how we achieve big things in real life.

Like, to win matches, we have to win sets. To win sets, we have to win games. And to win games, we have to win points.

In life, our different goals, specially if they are big and take time, work in a similar way I think. In order to achieve the big goal we often have a number of sub-goals to achieve first, and each of these sub-goals often have their own sub-sub-goals which we have to work for to achieve them.

In the end, bit by bit, like points being played to make games, games to make sets, and sets to achieve a win in a tennis match, we achieve our goals in life.

I think we could find many other different paralels with tennis and life. :)

Hominator
12-15-2011, 07:37 AM
I wonder why he likes to train in Thailand in the off-season. Does he have some kind of connection to Thailand?

zapvor
12-15-2011, 07:39 AM
^probably the warm weather

zapvor
12-15-2011, 07:40 AM
definitely happy to see pros out there pursuing other stuff beyond tennis. although to an extent it may be a distraction i think it brings more to the table

sureshs
12-15-2011, 08:03 AM
Philosophy must be a real easy subject to study if he can get a PhD while playing tennis full time.

Nostradamus
12-15-2011, 08:13 AM
Philosophy must be a real easy subject to study if he can get a PhD while playing tennis full time.

Actually Philosophy is a very difficult subject. Anyone that has taken this course in college knows this. I just wonder what philosophical reasoning gets him to smash his head with the tennis racket once on a while....:)

tennis_pro
12-15-2011, 08:18 AM
http://www.atpworldtour.com/~/media/74B4AD87C5BC4215A1C8606957B6E2F8.ashx

Epic picture.

glazkovss
12-15-2011, 08:27 AM
Philosophy must be a real easy subject to study if he can get a PhD while playing tennis full time.

Read carefully: it took him 6 years to get his research done - twice as long as it usually takes. I also pursue education degree in philosophy, and believe me it isn't easy at all. But I wonder whether he got Doctor's or candidate's degree. I heard he studied for candidates a few years ago, and his research was about tennis strategy. I also now that time for candidate's research is exactly 3 years, so there may be a confusion. Gonna search for news in russian.

batz
12-15-2011, 08:31 AM
Read carefully: it took him 6 years to get his research done - twice as long as it usually takes. I also pursue education degree in philosophy, and believe me it isn't easy at all. But I wonder whether he got Doctor's or candidate's degree. I heard he studied for candidates a few years ago, and his research was about tennis strategy. I also now that time for candidate's research is exactly 3 years, so there may be a confusion. Gonna search for news in russian.

Don't the letters P, h, and D answer that one?

BeHappy
12-15-2011, 08:40 AM
That's hilarious.

This man, of all people:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi-CgSO9Evw&ob=av3e

now has a PHD in PHILOSOPHY

glazkovss
12-15-2011, 08:41 AM
Don't the letters P, h, and D answer that one?

No, I mean that ATP might be wrong in it, and it looks so. Youzhny's wiki page in russian says that he received candidate's degree in pedagogics on nov. 15th and it looks more like truth. For those who did't know, candidate's degree in Russia is something between Magister and Doctor. I wonder if such a degree exists in Europe or US. It is lower degree than Doctor's but still a hard one to get. So congrats to Misha anyway, it should have been a big effort from him studying and researching all this years.

nadalwon2012
12-15-2011, 08:45 AM
I wonder what Youzhny's grades were. Because very few people are granted the opportunity for a PhD, only the best students.

pvaudio
12-15-2011, 08:47 AM
I presume it's much easier to get a PhD over there than it is in the US? Even with 6 years, there is no way he could have researched all he needed to, taken his qualifying and prelim exams (or whatever the equivalent ones are for phil), taken his course work AND written a proper dissertation while playing full time sports. I'm in graduate school (engineering, but nonetheless) now myself and my current hitting partner is a PhD candidate in philosophy. It's no cakewalk.

pvaudio
12-15-2011, 08:50 AM
No, I mean that ATP might be wrong in it, and it looks so. Youzhny's wiki page in russian says that he received candidate's degree in pedagogics on nov. 15th and it looks more like truth. For those who did't know, candidate's degree in Russia is something between Magister and Doctor. I wonder if such a degree exists in Europe or US. It is lower degree than Doctor's but still a hard one to get. So congrats to Misha anyway, it should have been a big effort from him studying and researching all this years.There is not equivalent.There are different professional degrees that are not PhDs or full professional degrees, however. Doctor of Law aka Juris Doctor aka J.D., Doctor of Education aka Ed.D, Doctor of Audiology aka Au.D just to name a few. The last of which is likely the most comparable as an AuD sort of replaces the Masters degree for that line of study.

batz
12-15-2011, 08:51 AM
No, I mean that ATP might be wrong in it, and it looks so. Youzhny's wiki page in russian says that he received candidate's degree in pedagogics on nov. 15th and it looks more like truth. For those who did't know, candidate's degree in Russia is something between Magister and Doctor. I wonder if such a degree exists in Europe or US. It is lower degree than Doctor's but still a hard one to get. So congrats to Misha anyway, it should have been a big effort from him studying and researching all this years.

Apologies, I mis-understood.

In the UK we have Bachelors, Masters and Doctorates. Maybe candidate is like Masters?

glazkovss
12-15-2011, 08:53 AM
I presume it's much easier to get a PhD over there than it is in the US? Even with 6 years, there is no way he could have researched all he needed to, taken his qualifying and prelim exams (or whatever the equivalent ones are for phil), taken his course work AND written a proper dissertation while playing full time sports. I'm in graduate school (engineering, but nonetheless) now myself and my current hitting partner is a PhD candidate in philosophy. It's no cakewalk.

Read my previous post, he didn't get PhD, but a lesser degree. The ATP confused his degree with PhD. PhD is a next step for him if he want's to get it, but it'll take much more effort from him, even in Russia:)

nadalwon2012
12-15-2011, 08:59 AM
You don't even get the chance to study for a PhD unless you get extremely high grades in Masters Degree. Only the best students are given the option. Like I said, I wonder what his grades were.

Fate Archer
12-15-2011, 09:01 AM
Read my previous post, he didn't get PhD, but a lesser degree. The ATP confused his degree with PhD. PhD is a next step for him if he want's to get it, but it'll take much more effort from him, even in Russia:)

Thanks for clearing up. Still a great accomplishment while dedicating most of his time to his professional tennis career. :)

dlk
12-15-2011, 09:04 AM
Wait, so he did not get his PhD? The article was calling him Dr. Youzhny.

gramdacious
12-15-2011, 09:05 AM
congrats to a great competitor and one of my favorite players.

glazkovss
12-15-2011, 09:06 AM
I correct myself: his next step would be not PhD, but Ed.D.

lim
12-15-2011, 09:14 AM
Congrats! Looking forward to seeing him put in work on the tour now...

Nostradamus
12-15-2011, 09:23 AM
So, when is he running for president ?

sureshs
12-15-2011, 09:53 AM
Read carefully: it took him 6 years to get his research done - twice as long as it usually takes. I also pursue education degree in philosophy, and believe me it isn't easy at all. But I wonder whether he got Doctor's or candidate's degree. I heard he studied for candidates a few years ago, and his research was about tennis strategy. I also now that time for candidate's research is exactly 3 years, so there may be a confusion. Gonna search for news in russian.

4 to 5 years is very common for even regular PhDs, 6 years is understandable for part time.

I was just kidding. Any subject is difficult when you go deep into it.

I would like to know how many research papers he got published. If none, then I suspect this might be a bogus publicity-based handing out of a PhD.

aphex
12-15-2011, 09:54 AM
Great news!
Hopefully it will motivate Nadal to get his kindergarten degree.

sureshs
12-15-2011, 09:55 AM
No, I mean that ATP might be wrong in it, and it looks so. Youzhny's wiki page in russian says that he received candidate's degree in pedagogics on nov. 15th and it looks more like truth. For those who did't know, candidate's degree in Russia is something between Magister and Doctor. I wonder if such a degree exists in Europe or US. It is lower degree than Doctor's but still a hard one to get. So congrats to Misha anyway, it should have been a big effort from him studying and researching all this years.

I see. It is called M.Phil in some countries. Sort of between a Masters and a PhD.

sureshs
12-15-2011, 09:56 AM
Great news!
Hopefully it will motivate Nadal to get his kindergarten degree.

Nadal already got his MD and is board-certified in Proctology.

tacou
12-15-2011, 10:04 AM
so his masters was about tennis? I'd really like to read that

Polaris
12-15-2011, 10:27 AM
Even working part-time, he got his Ph.D. in 6 years. This makes me feel really bad.

Did his thesis have anything to do with whacking himself on the face with a tennis racquet, and saluting crowds with said racquet on the head? :)

TheMusicLover
12-15-2011, 10:44 AM
Whatever the level of his Ph.D.-degree (I know they vary a lot among countries and even universities within one country), it's GREAT that Youzhny managed to get it done while being a pro tennis player.
It just shows that not all players are being 'stupid party animals' in their free time, some actually use their spare time pretty well.

CONGRATS, COLONEL!!! :)

pound cat
12-15-2011, 10:47 AM
Congrat to the Colonel. Didn't Raonic graduate before becoming a pro tennis player?

Raonic graduated from high school as on Ontario scholar (85%+average) and first in his class. His parents insisted on his finishing hs. before starting his tennis career. Everyone else in his family has Master's or Phd's ....but his ambition is tennis, not engineering like his parents.

He's an all round smart guy.

pound cat
12-15-2011, 10:49 AM
It seems like fans of tennis are above average in intelligence. You come to this site and there are people discussing World economics and physics (okay some are talking about what Seles wore at Wimbledon in 1991).


Yes we all are.

CDestroyer
12-15-2011, 10:52 AM
Even working part-time, he got his Ph.D. in 6 years. This makes me feel really bad.

Did his thesis have anything to do with whacking himself on the face with a tennis racquet, and saluting crowds with said racquet on the head? :)

I was thinking psychology would be more helpful for Youzhny. The real reason why people study the field is to undertand their own madness.

TheMusicLover
12-15-2011, 10:55 AM
I was thinking psychology would be more helpful for Youzhny. The real reason why people study the field is to undertand their own madness.

:lol: - there is a common misunderstanding that intelligent folks 'never' do anything 'stupid'. ;)

glazkovss
12-15-2011, 11:58 AM
Apologies, I mis-understood.

In the UK we have Bachelors, Masters and Doctorates. Maybe candidate is like Masters?

Not exactly, candidate is higher than Masters. In Russia there is a transition going on for some years now from the traditional degree system to the western. You can either study for Specialist (5 years) and than Candidate (another 3 years) or for Bachelor (4 years) and than Master (another 2 years). So 8 years of studying to get Candidate's degree and 6 years to get Master's. As long as 5 years ago there weren't Bachelor's and Master's degrees in our universities and Russian graduates had troubles with companies aknowledging their degree (Specialist or Candidate) abroad. So in case to solve this problem Russian universities began to switch to western system. Doctorates is above all of those degrees. Answering suresh's question, Youzhny had to publish at least 4 research papers above everything else to get the degree he got. He also should have passed two or three exams (essential ones are phylosophy of science and foreign language) which is called candidate's minimum, make a scientific research (about 150-200 pages) and defend it. That is a program of 3 year studying for Candidate. Now as he got his candidate's degree he can work on a Doctor's research, publish more research papers and so on to try to get Doctor's degree.

P.S.: As I'am studying for Candidate of Phylosophy now, I can say that passing all the exams means nothing in comparison to preparing research papers and candidate's research itself. You really need to work on it and introduce something new which is the hardest. It is easier if your research is connected to your day to day work (like Youzhny's), but nevertheless.

cc0509
12-15-2011, 12:16 PM
Nice to see. The value of an education should not be underestimated.

cc0509
12-15-2011, 12:18 PM
Raonic graduated from high school as on Ontario scholar (85%+average) and first in his class. His parents insisted on his finishing hs. before starting his tennis career. Everyone else in his family has Master's or Phd's ....but his ambition is tennis, not engineering like his parents.

He's an all round smart guy.

Yet, have you ever read Raonic's tweets? He may be a smart guy but he sure cannot spell! (Not that all smart people can spell. I know a lot of smart people that are terrible spellers.)

CCNM
12-15-2011, 01:41 PM
Congratulations to M. Youzhny and M. Raonic.

vive le beau jeu !
12-15-2011, 01:56 PM
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2008/0402/ten_youzhny_580.jpg

"on the torments of the human soul and the cranial projection of tennistical anger"

Nostradamus
12-15-2011, 01:59 PM
So what can he really do with this degree when he is done with tennis ? Can he become the top advisor to Vladmir Putin ?

pound cat
12-15-2011, 02:49 PM
So what can he really do with this degree when he is done with tennis ? Can he become the top advisor to Vladmir Putin ?

Betweem him and Safin who is in parliament they could shake things up in Russia, sports anyway, and Putin is a sportsman...

Bobby Jr
12-15-2011, 04:32 PM
^probably the warm weather
There are plenty of warm places, but Thailand has one special extra conditioning factor - it is humid as all hell. Probably the perfect AO conditioning location.

ttbrowne
12-15-2011, 05:09 PM
From what I've found..
Philosophy benefits you with:
Speaking in front of large crowds
How to write well
How to handle and creat impromptu analysis and arguments
How to apply logic

Not bad.

15_ounce
12-15-2011, 08:11 PM
I wonder why he likes to train in Thailand in the off-season. Does he have some kind of connection to Thailand?

There are so many Russians in Thailand especially in Pattaya where they also have a WTA tournament there. Many expats tennis players there too. It's like a second home for Russians. The new riches of Russia spend their money in Thailand for holiday and retirement, as well as running businesses. It's warm all year and no snow to bother you while training.

Nostradamus
12-15-2011, 08:17 PM
From what I've found..
Philosophy benefits you with:
Speaking in front of large crowds
How to write well
How to handle and creat impromptu analysis and arguments
How to apply logic

Not bad.

Does it help you become a better human being ? being Selfless, caring for others more than yourself, and putting priority on helping others.

The Wreck
12-15-2011, 08:17 PM
I think there could be confusion since PhD is literally Doctor of Philosophy, but obviously doesn't mean that he did his work in that field. Sports psychology seems far more likely, considering it's all about tennis and the mental game.

coloskier
12-15-2011, 08:43 PM
Actually Philosophy is a very difficult subject. Anyone that has taken this course in college knows this. I just wonder what philosophical reasoning gets him to smash his head with the tennis racket once on a while....:)

Considering a large number of soon to be come lawyers graduate with a Degree in Philosophy so they can get the high GPA to get into law school, it can't be that hard. Although I will give props to anyone that gets a PhD, no matter what it is in. From now on they will have to put Dr. Youzhny whenever they put his name on the screen.

glazkovss
12-15-2011, 09:49 PM
Considering a large number of soon to be come lawyers graduate with a Degree in Philosophy so they can get the high GPA to get into law school, it can't be that hard. Although I will give props to anyone that gets a PhD, no matter what it is in. From now on they will have to put Dr. Youzhny whenever they put his name on the screen.

He isn't a 'Dr.' and his degree is not in philosophy, but in education (see tennis coaching). In Russia prefix for his degree is c.e.s. (candidate of education sciences). In future he can become doctor of education sciences (Ed.D in western countries) if he continues his research work.

kanamit
12-15-2011, 10:02 PM
Multiple PhDs? Amazing!

kanamit
12-15-2011, 10:03 PM
I think there could be confusion since PhD is literally Doctor of Philosophy, but obviously doesn't mean that he did his work in that field. Sports psychology seems far more likely, considering it's all about tennis and the mental game.

Let's remember that Youzhny is the guy who slammed his head with his own racket until he bled.

catspaw
12-16-2011, 12:18 AM
I think there could be confusion since PhD is literally Doctor of Philosophy, but obviously doesn't mean that he did his work in that field. Sports psychology seems far more likely, considering it's all about tennis and the mental game.

Yes, it simply comes from the meaning of the word 'philosophy' - from the Greek meaning 'love of wisdom'. So a PhD can be in anything from plate techtonics to The Beatles, the one proviso being that it has to be 'original' research.

Whatever Youzhny has got himself qualified in and at what level he's done it, good for him. Can't have been easy.

ClairHarmony
12-16-2011, 12:30 AM
What I mean is this. Would you want a FANTASTIC BRAINIAC surgeon to fight for your life in a murder trial, if he had the charisma of a frozen peon in a Green Giant bag...oh, no, watch out, he's choking now...man, I'd rather have Eminem in my corner then. Just give him a tie, and he'd be good to go. You want someone with a talent to inspire large masses of people, to get them to pep up and go? Go look at that likely ENFJ acid attack burn victim lady, "Katy and Her Beautiful Friends." That's beautiful, that to me, is what an ENFJ at the peak of their abilities is capable of.

To me, the HARDEST thing by far to "get" is how an ESFJ is able to stay so on task, so bouncy...yet still, so on the button, mowing down clear tasks, on today's "to do" list. "Clear genius potential" has generally come far easier to me, it's more natural to me, 365 plus pages in a week or so? No problem, TOO "smart" for my own good it seemed. It was like I did not know what I was capable of, just how quickly my head mushroomed out of control all abstract like an arse bomb. It's the simplest things in life, that've ALWAYS given me the most problems. Put it this way, on a baseball team, why are batter 1-9 not all picked to be exactly the same? EXACTLY. Because they each and everyone of them are carefully picked to fill in a *unique* spot in the lineup. When they're all working together in sequence, according to "plan," it's a beautiful thing. But if you want the best results for the TEAM *and* the individual, the best thing for each player to do is focus on what they as indvidiauls do best. A good manager will assign you a slot based on your unique attributes. If each player maximizes their unique attributes to the best of their ability, that teams sitting pretty...and the "rally monkey" can go have some sex and have a break, what's with these stupid humans wasting all their precious time watching this boring game called baseball? It's just stupid, they could be knocking down bananas from trees, but no...they have to waste their time hitting stupid balls out of the park...woof-woof, says the stupid dog...sheesh, it seems like only the rally monkey truly gets what life's all about. It's not about evolution baby, it's about bannana milk shakes, the latest in hairy thong bikinis, and worrying about if I just spelled bannnana right, life can be so confusing sometimes!!!

Btw, I've got top of the food chain, Harvard surgeons, crush all the competition CEO whatever, type genes, or whatever running somewhere through my blood...I guess I probably have some of that in me somewhere still...so I guess that qualifies me enough to talk. Freakin' WHO CARES whose smarter, this that, or the other...man, just be yourself to the best of your ability. On your death bed, do you really want your last worthwhile thought to the world to be, yo, all, I'm soooo intellectually more capable of being smarter than you...oh, man, yeah, I'm dead now, but it's sooooo true, and you know it too...na-na-na-Wiener-neener...oh, man, I hope there are bubble baths in heaven, because I love bubble baths, and rainbows, the Fischer Vacuum Pro ceramic edition, and pinups, lots and lots of pinups. I'm smarter than Johnny Cochran, my IQ is through the roof, and "free the juice," for no particular reason, those were the kind of completely pointless, inane conversations my inane genius boyfriend and I had...on my way from saving him from flunking out of high school, for no particularly good reason. Some other types are more "genius" when it comes to not giving up on lost causes, no matter what, like Soul Sista' Teresa, hunny...my type. Every person has their place, I feel as though I'm operating at 1, one millionth of my brain capacity right now, but it's ok, because my heart's in the right place at the moment...knock-knock, yup, I checked. It's still here.

Lsmkenpo
12-16-2011, 03:16 AM
It does not surprise me that Youzhny has earned a degree in philosophy.
He is a brilliant strategist and knows how to get a MTO the way a real man should. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHCDdoXHjjg while at the same time intimidating the opponent, none of this jumping around like a circus monkey during the coin flip. Xafa should take note.

Sentinel
12-16-2011, 03:32 AM
Nadal already got his MD and is board-certified in Proctology.
Yeah, I recently saw a pic of him doing a quick colonoscopy on Monaco. They both smiled through the procedure. Dr. Nadal didn't even charge.

"My pleasure", he was heard to have said in his patent humble way.

Legend of Borg
12-16-2011, 04:57 AM
Great news!
Hopefully it will motivate Nadal to get his kindergarten degree.

:lol:

Too good.....

pound cat
12-16-2011, 05:21 AM
It does not surprise me that Youzhny has earned a degree in philosophy.
He is a brilliant strategist and knows how to get a MTO the way a real man should. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHCDdoXHjjg while at the same time intimidating the opponent, none of this jumping around like a circus monkey during the coin flip. Xafa should take note.


He did NOT earn a degree in philosphy. As a post 4 above yours explained a PhD can be in anything. Until we see his research topic we have no idea what he got his PhD in.

I wish you and others would read other peoples posts instead of focusing only on your own ideas which are often wrong.

pound cat
12-16-2011, 05:23 AM
ClairHarmony, your posts are so long I doubt if anyone bothers reading them.

pvaudio
12-16-2011, 05:30 AM
Considering a large number of soon to be come lawyers graduate with a Degree in Philosophy so they can get the high GPA to get into law school, it can't be that hard. Although I will give props to anyone that gets a PhD, no matter what it is in. From now on they will have to put Dr. Youzhny whenever they put his name on the screen.
Your ignorance is blinding. A BA in Philosophy, yes. For the GPA? Harvard law is not stupid enough to believe that the person with the 3.8 coming in with the B.A.Phil and the person coming in with the 3.8 in international finance or electrical engineering have taken similarly difficult coursework. They're even less likely to think that the coursework was similar at all. They're more concerned with what background you're coming in with: does it lend itself to logical thinking (i.e. engineering) does it lend itself to rationale and reasoning (philosophy, psychology) or does it lend itself to reading between the lines to find the crucial yet most important details (business, finance)?

Also, the GPA boost is a myth.

http://stateimpact.npr.org/indiana/2011/07/27/easy-a-the-10-departments-at-iu-purdue-giving-the-most-as/

My engineering "A" has a 23% chance of happening while the philosophy "A" didn't even have a 28% chance of landing on the transcript. So please, PHIL101 may be the gen ed that everyone takes, but you're not guaranteed anything.

1970CRBase
12-16-2011, 05:33 AM
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CH = !Tym? Apologies if I got you confused for somebody else.

flyinghippos101
12-16-2011, 05:49 AM
Considering a large number of soon to be come lawyers graduate with a Degree in Philosophy so they can get the high GPA to get into law school, it can't be that hard. Although I will give props to anyone that gets a PhD, no matter what it is in. From now on they will have to put Dr. Youzhny whenever they put his name on the screen.

Not to mention as a lawyer, it helps to have a degree that helps you improve argumentation

sureshs
12-16-2011, 10:18 AM
Yeah, I recently saw a pic of him doing a quick colonoscopy on Monaco. They both smiled through the procedure. Dr. Nadal didn't even charge.

"My pleasure", he was heard to have said in his patent humble way.

I think that is done by inserting optical fibers up the hole and shining light through them.

Nadal does it the old fashioned way with his hands.

tusharlovesrafa
12-16-2011, 10:23 AM
I think that is done by inserting optical fibers up the hole and shining light through them.

Nadal does it the old fashioned way with his hands.

colon=part of your intestine above your rectum!!DAMN!!
That's one very painful therapy..
Have you gone through colonoscopy,you seem to have quite a large info about it?:)

Lsmkenpo
12-16-2011, 02:21 PM
He did NOT earn a degree in philosphy. As a post 4 above yours explained a PhD can be in anything. Until we see his research topic we have no idea what he got his PhD in.

I wish you and others would read other peoples posts instead of focusing only on your own ideas which are often wrong.

What proof do you have that his PHD is not in philosophy ?

I wish you would provide proof to back your claims rather than focusing on one single idea of another and assuming it must be the correct explanation. :)

Bobby Jr
12-16-2011, 02:35 PM
Considering a large number of soon to be come lawyers graduate with a Degree in Philosophy so they can get the high GPA to get into law school, it can't be that hard...
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What would possess someone to do a three year undergraduate degree, then possibly a masters/reading-paper/honours, then a doctorate which in most cases takes another three years - just to get into law school is beyond me. A far simpler path would be to pay to get into a law school and then pull finger.

Once you have a PhD, attaining a law degree would be almost a pointless waste of time in most cases since, in less time, you could become a professor.

sureshs
12-16-2011, 02:56 PM
colon=part of your intestine above your rectum!!DAMN!!
That's one very painful therapy..
Have you gone through colonoscopy,you seem to have quite a large info about it?:)

No I haven't. But if I do, I will post the videos here.

adamX012
12-16-2011, 08:14 PM
Another PhD holder here... Good one....+1

I told you all many times throughout the forum. I love all Russian players... Yes, I am biased...

vernonbc
12-17-2011, 05:01 AM
Not exactly, candidate is higher than Masters. In Russia there is a transition going on for some years now from the traditional degree system to the western. You can either study for Specialist (5 years) and than Candidate (another 3 years) or for Bachelor (4 years) and than Master (another 2 years). So 8 years of studying to get Candidate's degree and 6 years to get Master's. As long as 5 years ago there weren't Bachelor's and Master's degrees in our universities and Russian graduates had troubles with companies aknowledging their degree (Specialist or Candidate) abroad. So in case to solve this problem Russian universities began to switch to western system. Doctorates is above all of those degrees. Answering suresh's question, Youzhny had to publish at least 4 research papers above everything else to get the degree he got. He also should have passed two or three exams (essential ones are phylosophy of science and foreign language) which is called candidate's minimum, make a scientific research (about 150-200 pages) and defend it. That is a program of 3 year studying for Candidate. Now as he got his candidate's degree he can work on a Doctor's research, publish more research papers and so on to try to get Doctor's degree.

P.S.: As I'am studying for Candidate of Phylosophy now, I can say that passing all the exams means nothing in comparison to preparing research papers and candidate's research itself. You really need to work on it and introduce something new which is the hardest. It is easier if your research is connected to your day to day work (like Youzhny's), but nevertheless.
Thank you for this info and clarification glazkovss. Sounds like Youzhney has done a lot of work and research during his "off" time. Congratulations to him. That's quite an achievement.

Raonic graduated from high school as on Ontario scholar (85%+average) and first in his class. His parents insisted on his finishing hs. before starting his tennis career. Everyone else in his family has Master's or Phd's ....but his ambition is tennis, not engineering like his parents.

He's an all round smart guy.
An important factoid to add to this pound cat is that Raonic graduated just days after his 16th birthday, a full year and a half ahead of schedule. He is indeed a very smart guy.

mandy01
12-17-2011, 05:13 AM
That's nice! Congrats :D

Polaris
12-17-2011, 02:58 PM
"on the torments of the human soul and the cranial projection of tennistical anger"

Best thesis title ever!

"Cranial projection" -> Genius.

equinox
12-17-2011, 03:05 PM
Always seemed like a smart chap on court when he wasn't bashing his own head in with his racquet.

Well done.

ttbrowne
12-17-2011, 06:19 PM
Does it help you become a better human being ? being Selfless, caring for others more than yourself, and putting priority on helping others.

Uh....no. Why should it?

beast of mallorca
12-17-2011, 06:26 PM
I wonder why he likes to train in Thailand in the off-season. Does he have some kind of connection to Thailand?

Just like Fed who trains in Dubai, training in Thailand prepares him for the warm weather of similar tournaments like Sydney, Oz open etc. Murray trains in Florida, but it's not as warm compared to DUbai and Thailand

DCaicedo
12-18-2011, 05:10 AM
I'm suprised no one's said anything about the fact that he had a 16-member committee! That's awfully large- I plan on 5 and that's max.

But the fact that he did it in the amount of time he did it in is astonishing- regardless of the international equivalent.

And the fact that he did it all while having a bleeding head, and saluting the crowd military-style, is also exceptional! :)