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Paul Murphy
12-18-2011, 04:45 PM
If you could pit one player from the past at his peak and put him up against a player also at his peak from the present, who would it be and why?

There are several I'd love to see but top of the list is Federer/McEnroe.

In brief, I'd like to see how Fed coped with one of the best lefthanded serves of all time and how he'd deal with it on return, particularly on his b/h side.
I'd also like to see Fed's passing game under pressure with Mc taking away his time and space with his S/V and general aggression.

Conversely I'd like to see how McEnrow fared on the occasions he couldn't get forward and Fed kept him on or near the baseline and how his backhand fared against Fed's forehand etc

I'd like to see what tactics they'd employ.

Finally I'd like to see how Federer handled the McEnroe rages and if they got to him.

Hood_Man
12-18-2011, 04:49 PM
Borg vs Coria.

1970CRBase
12-18-2011, 04:53 PM
Mecir vs Santoro :D Big Cat vs Magician. Wonder how that one will go.

Crazy man
12-18-2011, 05:04 PM
Safin of US Open 2000 final versus Federer of the US Open 2004 final, at the US Open.

stringertom
12-18-2011, 05:10 PM
Too easy...the original Bull (of the Pampas) vs today's Bull...provided polyester, Cortex and illegal coaching were not allowed.

adamX012
12-18-2011, 06:56 PM
OP, there are several threads like yours in the Former Pro Player Talk. Well, I would pull Marat Safin up with Alex Bogomolov Jr.

FEDERERNADAL13
12-18-2011, 06:59 PM
Doubles: Fed & Rafa vs Laver vs Rosewall

Singles: Fed vs Laver, Fed vs Rafa (on a multisurface, both in primes), Fed vs Sampras, Fed vs Me ;)

Golden
12-18-2011, 07:13 PM
Nadal vs Sampras, Nadal vs Borg, Fed vs Connors.

MichaelNadal
12-18-2011, 07:14 PM
Borg Vs Nadal at the FO
Sampras vs Federer at Wimbledon

Everyone in their primes of course.

SoBad
12-18-2011, 07:17 PM
I'd love to see Ervand Gasparyan play Federer, just to show what a joke that is. Fereder plays the risky first serve and the random half-volley, but Gasparyan hits a much cleaner ball from the baseline, so I think he'd win most of the time, except maybe indoors.

Polaris
12-18-2011, 07:27 PM
I'd love to see Ervand Gasparyan play Federer, just to show what a joke that is. Fereder plays the risky first serve and the random half-volley, but Gasparyan hits a much cleaner ball from the baseline, so I think he'd win most of the time, except maybe indoors.

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I would love to see a match between internet sensation Helen V. Beden and SoBad, even though it will be painfully one-sided both politically and tennistically, with SoBad finally retiring at 0-6 0-5 0-40 citing a sprained conscience. :)

Biscuitmcgriddleson
12-18-2011, 07:34 PM
Borg Vs Nadal at the FO
Sampras vs Federer at Wimbledon

Everyone in their primes of course.

Agreed, Federer Wimbledon 05 vs Sampras Wimbledon 99.

jgreen06
12-18-2011, 07:37 PM
Safin/Nastase
Lendl/Nadal
Graf/Henin

LameTennisPlayer
12-18-2011, 07:42 PM
Paul Morphy vs Garry Kasparov/Robert J Fischer either or

SoBad
12-18-2011, 07:43 PM
I would love to see a match between internet sensation Helen V. Beden and SoBad, even though it will be painfully one-sided both politically and tennistically, with SoBad finally retiring at 0-6 0-5 0-40 citing a sprained conscience. :)

The name of the forum section suggests that the discussion is intended to be limited to professional tennis players. Your spurious remarks are therefore highly inappropriate in this context, even if we chose to ignore the fact that they are clearly intended to further a nefarious vendetta against a respectable poster, which we donít.

Polaris
12-18-2011, 08:06 PM
The name of the forum section suggests that the discussion is intended to be limited to professional tennis players. Your spurious remarks are therefore highly inappropriate in this context, even if we chose to ignore the fact that they are clearly intended to further a nefarious vendetta against a respectable poster, which we don’t.

Hehe. I like how SoBad gets all prim and proper when he is angry. No "Fred", no "Fededer" no "Feder". Just all good spelling and grammar :).

So Sooo Sooo Sorry about missing the part about citing only professional tennis players. In that case, I'd like to see a matchup between Muster and Nadal on clay, or Edberg v. Federer on carpet or Djokovic v. Safin on slow hard court.

adamX012
12-18-2011, 08:10 PM
Hehe. I like how SoBad gets all prim and proper when he is angry. No "Fred", no "Fededer" no "Feder". Just all good spelling and grammar :).

So Sooo Sooo Sorry about missing the part about citing only professional tennis players. In that case, I'd like to see a matchup between Muster and Nadal on clay, or Edberg v. Federer on carpet or Djokovic v. Safin on slow hard court.

Don't say that again, Polaris. Let it go..

SoBad
12-18-2011, 08:18 PM
Thanks Adam for admonishing Polaris on my behalf. Any effect of his clever remarks aimed to evoke deep-seated anger within my inner self has now been mitigated by your timely reprimand.

adamX012
12-18-2011, 08:26 PM
Thanks Adam for admonishing Polaris on my behalf. Any effect of his clever remarks aimed to evoke deep-seated anger within my inner self has now been mitigated by your timely reprimand.

How are you? Don't worry about those posters. They are not so important to our life, aren't they. Just ignored their posts and move on to the next thread. Honestly, I am very proud of you because your English is not bad at all. Keep working hard and have a faith in god. You would get anything you wish for here in this country. I worked very hard to get what I have now. Just sharing with you ya.

jokinla
12-18-2011, 10:00 PM
Fed v Laver, for the obvious reason.

jokinla
12-18-2011, 10:01 PM
Nadal v Borg at the French

1970CRBase
12-18-2011, 10:08 PM
Edberg vs Pete on 90's grass. Nearly happened but thwarted twice once by the back hand of Courier and another time by Goran's 37 aces.

Another, Graf vs Court on grass.

BJK vs Serena on Grass.

Evert vs Hingis. This is something that even Evert had interest in.

DeShaun
12-18-2011, 11:36 PM
Either Pancho and Federer, or Tilden and Laver.

TennisLovaLova
12-19-2011, 05:29 AM
Fed v Laver, for the obvious reason.
And It would be my pleasure to pay Kiki the ticket to watch this live! :twisted:

Nadal v Borg at the French
Or Federer v Borg at wimbledon

I'd also like to see, for the style of course, Federer V steffi graf
GOAT Vs GOAT

SLD76
12-19-2011, 05:32 AM
Safin of US Open 2000 final versus Federer of the US Open 2004 final, at the US Open.

my brain just orgasmed at the thought of this.

Hood_Man
12-19-2011, 07:17 AM
2008 Nadal vs 2011 Nadal, so he can feel what Fed was going through in 2008 ;)

Is love to see Federer play Lendl at the US Open though.

infonoob
12-19-2011, 07:22 AM
Djokovic vs Agassi

pc1
12-19-2011, 07:24 AM
Edberg vs Pete on 90's grass. Nearly happened but thwarted twice once by the back hand of Courier and another time by Goran's 37 aces.

Another, Graf vs Court on grass.

BJK vs Serena on Grass.

Evert vs Hingis. This is something that even Evert had interest in.

Nice matchups but I'm least thrilled about Edberg and Sampras since we did see them play at or near their primes.

Graf against Court on grass would be fun.

I would think Pancho Gonzalez against Pete Sampras or Federer on a fast surface.

westside
12-19-2011, 07:27 AM
For some good old baseline bashing;

Joachim Johannson v Del Potro. At the US Open

Homeboy Hotel
12-19-2011, 07:59 AM
Nadal vs Federer US Open 2010
Nadal vs Federer US Open 2011

Both could've, would've happened....

snowpuppy
12-19-2011, 08:30 AM
Nadal vs Sampra @ new Wimbledon grass.

The ultimate test to see if S&V can still be done in today's game.

sunof tennis
12-19-2011, 08:41 AM
Nadal v Borg at the French

But their match might never end.....

tennis_pro
12-19-2011, 08:47 AM
Nadal v Borg at the French

that would be the longest and most boring match ever with the victor (and loser) both collapsing after the match ended at 7-6 6-7 7-6 6-7 98-96

I choose peak Federer vs peak Federer at the US Open

corners
12-19-2011, 09:05 AM
Fed vs. Laver, Gonzalez, Hoad, Kramer, Budge and Vines.

heftylefty
12-19-2011, 09:29 AM
Fed v Lendl at Roland Garros
Nadal v Courier at A.O.

T1000
12-19-2011, 09:33 AM
Dolgopolov vs Santoro

The name of the forum section suggests that the discussion is intended to be limited to professional tennis players. Your spurious remarks are therefore highly inappropriate in this context, even if we chose to ignore the fact that they are clearly intended to further a nefarious vendetta against a respectable poster, which we don’t.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-JECHcrzu65w/TmZ05xToTSI/AAAAAAAAAgc/dQwpoVWnpW8/s1600/bros.jpg

Warriorroger
12-19-2011, 09:54 AM
Ivan Lendl vs Roger Federer
Steffi Graf vs Justine Henin
Chris Evert vs Martina Hingis
Pete Sampras vs Rafael Nadal

Mixed double: Graf/Federer vs Sabatini/Nadal

Shaolin
12-19-2011, 10:54 AM
Rios vs Santoro

Nadal vs Kuerten on clay

Prime Fed vs Prime Sampras on fast hardcourt

Fed vs Laver

I could go on forever

celoft
12-19-2011, 10:56 AM
Federer vs Sampras. Both in their prime.

Fate Archer
12-19-2011, 11:01 AM
Connors vs Federer at the USO
Federer vs Borg at the FO
Federer vs Muster at the FO
Prime Guga Kuerten vs Nadal at the FO
2004 (or 2005, 2009) Roddick vs Nadal (2008, 2010 or 2011) at Wimbledon
Sampras vs Nadal at Wimbledon

Can't think many suggestions that would stand out to me at the AO right now, despite the Ozz being up there to me as one of the best slams.

Fate Archer
12-19-2011, 11:21 AM
Safin/Nastase
Lendl/Nadal
Graf/Henin

Nice ones. :)

The first would be the clash of insanely talented players and the second a battle of intimidation. I wonder what venues would make for their best clashes.

Fed v Lendl at Roland Garros
Nadal v Courier at A.O.

Great ones too.

Djokovic vs Agassi

At the AO. :)

Eternity
12-19-2011, 11:22 AM
^^ rebound ace or plexicushion?

Fate Archer
12-19-2011, 11:24 AM
^^ rebound ace or plexicushion?

I think rebound ace would be more fair to both players and create better ball striking, plexicushion would be too slow I guess.

I think this match up has potential at the USO too. :)

kishnabe
12-19-2011, 12:04 PM
1978 Borg vs 2008 Nadal at Roland Garros.
1995 Sampras vs 2005 Federer at Wimbledon.
1995 Agassi vs 2011 Djokovic at US Open.
1973 Noah vs 2008 Monfils at Roland Garros.
1984 McEnroe vs 1989 Becker at Wimbledon.

kiki
12-19-2011, 03:02 PM
And It would be my pleasure to pay Kiki the ticket to watch this live! :twisted:


Or Federer v Borg at wimbledon

I'd also like to see, for the style of course, Federer V steffi graf
GOAT Vs GOAT

What ticket do you pay me for? Can you pay me one for the 1972 WCT final?

kiki
12-19-2011, 03:15 PM
Laver vs Hoad, both at their primes at W

Tilden vs Gonzo at FH

Rosewall vs Cochet at RG


Kramer vs Budge indoors

Russeljones
12-19-2011, 03:26 PM
Fed + Pete vs Nadal + Djokovic on 80's grass

kiki
12-19-2011, 03:37 PM
Prime Borg vs prime Laver
Prime Hoad vs Prime Becker or Lendl
Pirme Rosewall vs Prime Mc Enroe
Prime Pancho vs Prime Connors
Prime Court vs Prime Navratilova
Prime Graf vs Prime Bueno

TERRASTAR18
12-19-2011, 03:59 PM
mcenroe vs joker
leconte vs gasquet
02 serena vs golden slam graf
92 seles vs 01 venus
bjk vs suzanne lenglen
tracy austin vs wozzy
davenport vs stosur
chang vs henman
nadal vs hewitt
pacho gonzalez vs ivanesevic
djoker vs rafter

kiki
12-19-2011, 04:01 PM
mcenroe vs joker
leconte vs gasquet
02 serena vs golden slam graf
92 seles vs 01 venus
bjk vs suzanne lenglen
tracy austin vs wozzy
davenport vs stosur
chang vs henman
nadal vs hewitt
pacho gonzalez vs ivanesevic
djoker vs rafter

I like the Austin vs Wozniacky choice.

In serious terms, mandlikova vs Bueno and Graf vs Court

SoBad
12-19-2011, 07:03 PM
Dolgopolov vs Santoro

http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab108/SoBad2010/atfirstiwaslike1.jpg

http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab108/SoBad2010/atfirstiwaslike2.jpg

Warriorroger
12-20-2011, 09:34 AM
And It would be my pleasure to pay Kiki the ticket to watch this live! :twisted:


Or Federer v Borg at wimbledon

I'd also like to see, for the style of course, Federer V steffi graf
GOAT Vs GOAT

Like watching two tennis dancers Roger and Steffi, that footwork!!

Nathaniel_Near
12-20-2011, 10:02 AM
Like watching two tennis dancers Roger and Steffi, that footwork!!

Oh baby!

1semi

Rock Strongo
12-20-2011, 11:26 AM
Edberg vs Federer or 1996 Krajicek vs Federer, all on old Wimby grass.

Hood_Man
12-20-2011, 12:22 PM
Like watching two tennis dancers Roger and Steffi, that footwork!!

Roger and Steffi playing doubles on Strictly Come Dancing :) Now there's a matchup.

TopFH
12-20-2011, 09:53 PM
I choose peak Federer vs peak Federer at the US Open

What the frack?!!!

Crazy man
12-21-2011, 09:19 AM
Edberg vs Federer or 1996 Krajicek vs Federer, all on old Wimby grass.

Krajicek at Wimbledon 1996 would have beaten anyone that tournament. Period.

Polaris
01-05-2012, 09:03 AM
Don't say that again, Polaris. Let it go..

Ok, I'll let it go. He's really sensitive with his "deep seated inner anger", so I should be more careful :).

DjokovicForTheWin
01-05-2012, 09:12 AM
At their respective peaks:

Federer beats Sampras at Wimbledon (there is actually data supporting this).

Borg beats Nadal at FO.

beast of mallorca
01-05-2012, 09:16 AM
At their respective peaks:

Federer beats Sampras at Wimbledon (there is actually data supporting this).

Borg beats Nadal at FO.

Rafa beats Borg at FO.............there corrected that for you.

DjokovicForTheWin
01-05-2012, 09:18 AM
Rafa beats Borg at FO.............there corrected that for you.

No that is incorrect. Nadal has no chance against peak Borg. LOL even injured Soderling beat him at his best.

ManFed
01-06-2012, 09:11 AM
Everyone at his God mode levels

French Open
Borg vs Nadal
Vilas vs Nadal
Kuerten vs Borg
Kuerten vs Nadal
Borg vs Federer
Vilas vs Federer
Muster vs Nadal
Sampras vs Federer

Wimbledon
Edberg vs Sampras
Edberg vs Federer
Sampras vs Federer
Laver vs Sampras
Laver vs Federer
Mcenroe vs Federer
Mcenroe vs Sampras
Roddick vs Nadal
Sampras vs Nadal
Connors vs Nadal

US Open
Sampras vs Federer
Agassi vs Djokovic
Sampras vs Nadal
Agassi vs Nadal
Mcenroe vs Federer
Sampras vs Djokovic
Safin vs Djokovic

TERRASTAR18
01-07-2012, 02:11 PM
I like the Austin vs Wozniacky choice.

In serious terms, mandlikova vs Bueno and Graf vs Court

good picks yourself.

here's another-
schiavone vs virgina wade.