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fed_is_GOD
12-24-2011, 11:27 AM
Here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Loxm1vFYs7M

here at 6:22 watch the rally between hewitt and federer in AO. watch the court coverage.. am sure now federer doesnt even bother chasing the first ball in that rally..

fed_is_GOD
12-24-2011, 11:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Loxm1vFYs7M&t=6m

Faster
12-24-2011, 01:55 PM
Why would he? He's better off saving that energy for other points

Bobby Jr
12-24-2011, 02:56 PM
Yeah. It's only Hewitt... Federer is saving his energy for the next opponent.

ZeroSkid
12-24-2011, 10:38 PM
Fed seems faster now but less powerful

Xizel
12-24-2011, 11:31 PM
After years of abuse by Nadal, I thought his backhand got better.

zapvor
12-24-2011, 11:34 PM
lol the guy is 30 now...with kids....and hes still potentially #1 even if ranking points dont indicate it

ledwix
12-24-2011, 11:41 PM
What the eff kind of defense was that against Hewitt? Those shots didn't seem remotely retrievable.

helloworld
12-25-2011, 12:06 AM
lol the guy is 30 now...with kids....and hes still potentially #1 even if ranking points dont indicate it

How is he still #1 when both Djokovic and Nadal outperformed him in 2011? :confused:

Povl Carstensen
12-26-2011, 06:53 AM
It said potentially...
Ah yes, the famed Federer defence, once described by Sureshs as "fluke shots landing in".

Biscuitmcgriddleson
12-26-2011, 07:07 AM
Fed seems faster now but less powerful

I think he has to run more to make up for decrease in his movement(ie starting and stopping, changing directions, etc)

I don't see Federer of today moving well enough let alone being fast enough to pull this one off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcVHvh55bP0#t=0m34s

wings56
12-26-2011, 07:16 AM
federer still has exceptional footwork even though it has slightly declined. i would say his court coverage speed is what has dropped off the most since his prime. these differences are very slight but can make big differences in results. as for the vids posted by the OP... not a good comparison considering hewitt hits the ball much softer than berdych so theres quite a big difference in the weight of shot however the point is still valid

zapvor
12-26-2011, 08:57 PM
How is he still #1 when both Djokovic and Nadal outperformed him in 2011? :confused:

well one the points fed had to defend in 2011 was insane. that alone speaks to his...um resume. oh and i said potential.

ZeroSkid
12-26-2011, 09:02 PM
I think he has to run more to make up for decrease in his movement(ie starting and stopping, changing directions, etc)

I don't see Federer of today moving well enough let alone being fast enough to pull this one off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcVHvh55bP0#t=0m34s

I was of course joking but he is not that much slower than in that US open, if at all

ZeroSkid
12-26-2011, 09:03 PM
lol the guy is 30 now...with kids....and hes still potentially #1 even if ranking points dont indicate it

No he is not

cork_screw
12-26-2011, 10:50 PM
I don't know why you're making this comparison. Are you going to make a comparison with the hair color of someone who's 40 vs someone who's 70?

Rog is probably slowing down because he's 30 years old !!! Give the guy a break. Anyone else surprised how a 30 year old hasn't once fallen out of top 5 and is ranked 3 at the age of 30? Now that's something to talk about. Where's Hewitt, Roddick, Safin, Blake, Nalbandian? All these other dudes are around roger's age but nobody remarks about how amazing it is see as what he's doing at his age.

That's how talented he is, he can be ranked as high up as he is at his age. Hell, Safin is retired. and I see some of the others close to doing the same thing.

If I was in my 30's on a tour that rewards gazelle like movement, I would pay someone to push me around in a wheelchair. Maybe he wants to conserve his legs, seeing as how he's clocked enough miles on them as it is.

Can I ask you a question, how come my Honda Civic with 250,000 miles doesn't run the same as when it rolled off the lot 20 years ago?

The man has paid his dues, give him respect and a break. Jeez, these threads are probably the most annoying troll threads out there.

zapvor
12-27-2011, 12:08 AM
I don't know why you're making this comparison. Are you going to make a comparison with the hair color of someone who's 40 vs someone who's 70?

Rog is probably slowing down because he's 30 years old !!! Give the guy a break. Anyone else surprised how a 30 year old hasn't once fallen out of top 5 and is ranked 3 at the age of 30? Now that's something to talk about. Where's Hewitt, Roddick, Safin, Blake, Nalbandian? All these other dudes are around roger's age but nobody remarks about how amazing it is see as what he's doing at his age.

That's how talented he is, he can be ranked as high up as he is at his age. Hell, Safin is retired. and I see some of the others close to doing the same thing.

If I was in my 30's on a tour that rewards gazelle like movement, I would pay someone to push me around in a wheelchair. Maybe he wants to conserve his legs, seeing as how he's clocked enough miles on them as it is.

Can I ask you a question, how come my Honda Civic with 250,000 miles doesn't run the same as when it rolled off the lot 20 years ago?

The man has paid his dues, give him respect and a break. Jeez, these threads are probably the most annoying troll threads out there.

well said. totally agree.

fed is 30. how old is nadal and novak? what did fed accomplish when he was their age? end of argument.

DeShaun
12-27-2011, 12:15 AM
He lost something (a step, or fraction of a step) in 07, to my eye. Anyways. . .

What I like most about him and his game is that, he probably recognized early on as a child playing that he could perform marvelous defensive feats--face it, Roger's defense at times particularly between 2003 and 2006 was a spectacle in and of itself--but he insisted on becoming the attacking player that he ultimately became. I like this about him. Roger's really effing cool, in my opinion.

Sentinel
12-27-2011, 01:24 AM
It said potentially...
Ah yes, the famed Federer defence, once described by Sureshs as "fluke shots landing in".
We really need a collection (or anthology ;) ) of sureshs quotes. He's right up there with Churchill and Twain.

zagor
12-27-2011, 03:53 AM
Can I ask you a question, how come my Honda Civic with 250,000 miles doesn't run the same as when it rolled off the lot 20 years ago?

Problem is according to number of people on this forum, your car should be running the same even(or even better) 14 years after you bought it. If your car shows a decrease in performance after 14 years then it must have never been a quality car to begin with.

Is that logical? Of course not, but when blinded by hate people tend to twist things to a tremendous degree just so it can suit their agenda.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
12-27-2011, 05:10 AM
He is smarter these days on court , used to be faster of course.

newton296
12-27-2011, 05:46 AM
He is smarter these days on court , used to be faster of course.

yep! shouldn't surprise anyone that federer is getting older and slower . but a great talent like federer should be exempt from getting older. its just wrong.

Fedchamp
12-27-2011, 08:59 AM
I don't know why you're making this comparison. Are you going to make a comparison with the hair color of someone who's 40 vs someone who's 70?

Rog is probably slowing down because he's 30 years old !!! Give the guy a break. Anyone else surprised how a 30 year old hasn't once fallen out of top 5 and is ranked 3 at the age of 30? Now that's something to talk about. Where's Hewitt, Roddick, Safin, Blake, Nalbandian? All these other dudes are around roger's age but nobody remarks about how amazing it is see as what he's doing at his age.

That's how talented he is, he can be ranked as high up as he is at his age. Hell, Safin is retired. and I see some of the others close to doing the same thing.

If I was in my 30's on a tour that rewards gazelle like movement, I would pay someone to push me around in a wheelchair. Maybe he wants to conserve his legs, seeing as how he's clocked enough miles on them as it is.

Can I ask you a question, how come my Honda Civic with 250,000 miles doesn't run the same as when it rolled off the lot 20 years ago?

The man has paid his dues, give him respect and a break. Jeez, these threads are probably the most annoying troll threads out there.

Here, bloody here! It's probably a statement of the quality of player he currently is, and how well he still moves, that people forget he is a gerro by tennis standards.

Fedchamp
12-27-2011, 09:02 AM
Problem is according to number of people on this forum, your car should be running the same even(or even better) 14 years after you bought it. If your car shows a decrease in performance after 14 years then it must have never been a quality car to begin with.

Is that logical? Of course not, but when blinded by hate people tend to twist things to a tremendous degree just so it can suit their agenda.

I don't think it was the OP's intention to cast Fed in a bad light. Maybe it was to point out that Fed, in his prime, probably would've beaten these guys a lot more often than he has lately.

zagor
12-27-2011, 10:13 PM
I don't think it was the OP's intention to cast Fed in a bad light. Maybe it was to point out that Fed, in his prime, probably would've beaten these guys a lot more often than he has lately.

Wasn't talking about OP in specific but rather in general.

I don't know if Fed would have beaten or not beaten any of the players more often(the matches between top players are unpredictable) but there's no doubt he suffered a decline in physical aspects of his game, people who claim otherwise clearly have an agenda.

pvaudio
12-27-2011, 11:47 PM
Problem is according to number of people on this forum, your car should be running the same even(or even better) 14 years after you bought it. If your car shows a decrease in performance after 14 years then it must have never been a quality car to begin with.

Is that logical? Of course not, but when blinded by hate people tend to twist things to a tremendous degree just so it can suit their agenda.
Federer really is like a Honda. Unparalleled in the beginning, still good enough to beat the best in the middle, and will always be running better than most up until the day it's scrapped.

zapvor
12-27-2011, 11:52 PM
Federer really is like a Honda. Unparalleled in the beginning, still good enough to beat the best in the middle, and will always be running better than most up until the day it's scrapped.

i vote this post of the year

Sentinel
12-28-2011, 05:53 AM
Federer really is like a Honda. Unparalleled in the beginning, still good enough to beat the best in the middle, and will always be running better than most up until the day it's scrapped.
Sheesh, get outa here.

Federer will never be scrapped !

wy2sl0
12-28-2011, 09:30 AM
Well if Federer has declined that much I don't know. He moved as well as Djoker in the US Open Semi this year, and Djokovic is one of the best mover's the game has ever seen - so what does that say?

fed_is_GOD
12-28-2011, 09:46 AM
come on you guys.. it is so obvious he is not covering his right half of the court at all.. he runs around his backhand and fails to cover the court in time.. I have seen him loose hundreds of points like this.. especially to nadal..

Fedchamp
12-28-2011, 10:00 AM
Well if Federer has declined that much I don't know. He moved as well as Djoker in the US Open Semi this year, and Djokovic is one of the best mover's the game has ever seen - so what does that say?

He did come close to beating Djoker, didn't he? I think he would've taken the US if he did. Not bad for a 30 year old.
How many other guys won slams post 30?

zapvor
12-28-2011, 06:12 PM
come on you guys.. it is so obvious he is not covering his right half of the court at all.. he runs around his backhand and fails to cover the court in time.. I have seen him loose hundreds of points like this.. especially to nadal..

He did come close to beating Djoker, didn't he? I think he would've taken the US if he did. Not bad for a 30 year old.
How many other guys won slams post 30?

exactly. i want to see how nadal is holding up at 30...with kids.

but yea it's a classic fed move to camp out on the ad side and leave the fh open. i dare you to hit to my fh! the thing i love fed is he has so many of these classic 'moves' he does, and even when you know its coming you still cant stop it lol