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Paul Murphy
12-27-2011, 11:21 PM
Tony Roche labels Hewitt the toughest player he's seen in this AAP news article.
He'll do for my nomination.
Any others?

AAP:
He's been lauded as the toughest competitor in tennis and now Lleyton Hewitt is ready to fight through the pain barrier once more at next month's Australian Open.
Hewitt has assured his close-knit team he is ``100 per cent'' certain to line up for a 16th consecutive tilt at Melbourne Park glory despite ongoing concerns over his chronic foot injury.
A specialist last week told Hewitt his battered left big toe was the ``worst he'd ever seen'' and expressed surprise the former world No.1 was walking around, let alone preparing for a grand slam tournament.
Hewitt, though, considers the grim medical assessment a badge of honour and will soldier on without even using pain killers as they upset his stomach.
The 30-year-old's show of grit is no surprise to his vastly experienced coach Tony Roche.
``Look, he'd be the toughest competitor that I've seen,'' Roche told AAP earlier this year.
``He's had a lot of setbacks the last couple of years but he keeps bouncing back.''
Hewitt hasn't played since Australia's Davis Cup loss to Switzerland in Sydney in September.
But he has proven time and again he can return at a high level after long breaks from the game.
Last year, Hewitt was sidelined for almost four months following a second round of hip surgery and a knee operation before he toppled Roger Federer on grass in the Halle final.
He reached the quarter-finals of the 2006 US Open despite carrying a knee injury that had threatened his participation and famously beat Rafael Nadal in five sets at the 2005 Australian Open while battling a hip injury.
Despite languishing at 186th in the rankings, father-of-three Hewitt insists retirement is not in his plans.
``This year's been frustrating with the foot injury,'' Hewitt said this month.
``The rest of my body feels great, so that's probably even more frustrating. If I was breaking down in a lot of different areas, then you can sort of put up with it.
``So if I can get over this foot injury, I feel great at the moment in terms of my ball striking. It's as good as it's been in a long time.
``As long as my foot holds up, I'll keep going.''

tennis_pro
12-27-2011, 11:32 PM
Yea yea Rochy (an Australian) thinks Hewitt (another Australian) is the toughest player he's ever seen.

Michael Stich (a German) once said Schumacher (another German) is the best sportsman ever.

Pat Cash thinks Laver is the greatest ever. It's not like both are Australian or something.

pvaudio
12-27-2011, 11:32 PM
I don't think it's going to be easy to dispute whether Hewitt has had more drive than any other player of his or this current era. When the likes of Agassi state that he's the one person you never want to have to serve to, that sort of speaks for itself.

MariaRafael
12-28-2011, 12:36 AM
Can I have the definition of tough, please? This notion is very wide and blurry. To a certain extent, every professional player is tough in his own sense, and I don't see why Hewitt is tougher than Laver, Wilander, Federer, Nadal, Ferrer, etc.

Lsmkenpo
12-28-2011, 01:16 AM
I agree with Roche, Hewitt may be the toughest player physically and mentally to ever play the game.

purge
12-28-2011, 01:24 AM
Pat Cash thinks Laver is the greatest ever. It's not like both are Australian or something.

thats got nothing to do with one another

the only reason why cash picks laver is because laver isnt federer -.-

Crazy man
12-28-2011, 02:05 AM
Borg, Muster and Chang say hi!

celoft
12-28-2011, 05:22 AM
Jimmy Connors.

SLD76
12-28-2011, 05:27 AM
Hewitt was definitely tough for me to watch.

You know, being such a huge ***** and all.

zcarzach
12-28-2011, 05:35 AM
Hewitt is one of my favorite players of all time. I agree with Roche. Lleyton is extremely tough, both mentally and physically. He played through a lot of injuries that would have caused other players to retire from matches. Hell, in 2005, he was dealing with a bad hip, spent 20 or so hours on court to make the Australian Open final, and only under the pressure of god-mode Safin did he fold.

As much as I love Roger, I hope Lleyton wins the Oz Open...

MariaRafael
12-28-2011, 05:41 AM
thats got nothing to do with one another

the only reason why cash picks laver is because laver isnt federer -.-

What's his problem with Federer?

tennis_pro
12-28-2011, 05:45 AM
What's his problem with Federer?

I think Cash said that Federer would never win Wimbledon after he lost in the 1st round in 2002. Now that this has become the biggest failprediction possible Cash is bitter

+ he's Australian:)

purge
12-28-2011, 05:57 AM
I think Cash said that Federer would never win Wimbledon after he lost in the 1st round in 2002. Now that this has become the biggest failprediction possible Cash is bitter

+ he's Australian:)

in addition to saying federer will never win anything big if he stays with mirka..
that hes not good enough to be the next big act in tennis..
that he would never be able to beat delpo again after losing the USO final to him..
that djokovic now is far better than federer ever was in his prime..

kinda makes you think hed gladly pick anyone as long as it isnt federer +g+

namelessone
12-28-2011, 06:01 AM
Hewitt is easily one of the toughest mofos to step on a tennis court. Even after countless injuries he kept coming back and giving it his best.

Regardless of some may think of him, no one can question his fight.

DRII
12-28-2011, 06:01 AM
I don't know if he's the toughest, but he did earn alot from not as much...

But, once he lost some of his foot speed it was all over.

djokovicgonzalez2010
12-28-2011, 06:23 AM
It's sad...he was in his prime probably the mentally toughest player ever- but he's become a choker in old age

pvaudio
12-28-2011, 07:40 AM
Can I have the definition of tough, please? This notion is very wide and blurry. To a certain extent, every professional player is tough in his own sense, and I don't see why Hewitt is tougher than Laver, Wilander, Federer, Nadal, Ferrer, etc.

Hewitt is one of my favorite players of all time. I agree with Roche. Lleyton is extremely tough, both mentally and physically. He played through a lot of injuries that would have caused other players to retire from matches. Hell, in 2005, he was dealing with a bad hip, spent 20 or so hours on court to make the Australian Open final, and only under the pressure of god-mode Safin did he fold.

As much as I love Roger, I hope Lleyton wins the Oz Open...
This. Hewitt doesn't retire much less give up. He has this intrinsic fight that you can just see in his eyes. Unfortunately, he and Safin and Rafter got only a few years to be excellent before Federer came into power. People tend to forget what 2002 or so Hewitt looked like.

nethawkwenatchee
12-28-2011, 07:49 AM
Jimmy Connors.

Absolutely! Jimmy would have came across the net, slapped Hewitt around, intimidated him, made him cry, out played him. He was a tougher breed of personality than this generation has seen (save a few of the Russion player and Roddick :) )

beast of mallorca
12-28-2011, 08:18 AM
Hewitt is an arrogant d.*&@#.g. Tough ? Probably. Toughest........no.

kishnabe
12-28-2011, 10:05 AM
Sometimes being tough means making stupid decisions just like Hewitt is doing now!

jackson vile
12-28-2011, 10:08 AM
Who the heck are these delusional people? Tony can't really believe that?

Fedchamp
12-28-2011, 10:23 AM
Being tough. Does that mean you win more matches? Every new season or slam comes around , and we hear it's gonna be Hewitt's "comeback". It never happened, and it will not happen. Now , I'm Australian, and I'd love to see him do well, but 1) he isn't physically up to it, and 2) he hasn't got the game. Being "tough" is one thing , but the pace of the game has moved on from his level. Even at his peak form and physical condition, he still wouldn't be able to compete with the top 20 guys.

[Z]engin
12-28-2011, 10:45 AM
He's tough alright, but Rafa is tougher.

And maybe more people.

Mustard
12-28-2011, 10:55 AM
Even at his peak form and physical condition, he still wouldn't be able to compete with the top 20 guys.

Peak Hewitt is top 5 for certain in this era.

Cup8489
12-28-2011, 11:00 AM
Can I have the definition of tough, please? This notion is very wide and blurry. To a certain extent, every professional player is tough in his own sense, and I don't see why Hewitt is tougher than Laver, Wilander, Federer, Nadal, Ferrer, etc.

What a surprise....

And, he's tough because while he constantly gets injured, he comes back and tries to play. he doesn't make excuses, doesn't quit unless he's broken a hip... he soldiers on, refusing to 'go quietly into the night'

Cup8489
12-28-2011, 11:00 AM
Peak Hewitt is top 5 for certain in this era.

Agreed. People here trash on him so much.. but he did finish number 1 two years in a row.

Breaker
12-28-2011, 11:01 AM
Being tough. Does that mean you win more matches? Every new season or slam comes around , and we hear it's gonna be Hewitt's "comeback". It never happened, and it will not happen. Now , I'm Australian, and I'd love to see him do well, but 1) he isn't physically up to it, and 2) he hasn't got the game. Being "tough" is one thing , but the pace of the game has moved on from his level. Even at his peak form and physical condition, he still wouldn't be able to compete with the top 20 guys.

Please give up on analysing tennis.

tennis_pro
12-28-2011, 11:05 AM
Please give up on analysing tennis.

Hewitt's 2000-2005 style would be perfect for today's conditions.

_maxi
12-28-2011, 11:16 AM
And what about Nadal? he is tough. The guy won't let you win easily.

paulorenzo
12-28-2011, 11:38 AM
Being tough. Does that mean you win more matches? Every new season or slam comes around , and we hear it's gonna be Hewitt's "comeback". It never happened, and it will not happen. Now , I'm Australian, and I'd love to see him do well, but 1) he isn't physically up to it, and 2) he hasn't got the game. Being "tough" is one thing , but the pace of the game has moved on from his level. Even at his peak form and physical condition, he still wouldn't be able to compete with the top 20 guys.

Peak Hewitt is top 5 for certain in this era.

agreed. the only people in the top 20 i can see having a good head to head against peak hewitt are the top 3.

albeit the game has transcended past hewitt in terms of power.

AhmedD
12-28-2011, 11:47 AM
Past prime Hewitt almost beat Soderling at Wimbledon this year, Soderling had to play some pretty good tennis to comeback and win that, shame he didn't win it, was looking forward to a Hewitt vs Tomic match :(

Mustard
12-28-2011, 12:01 PM
Past prime Hewitt almost beat Soderling at Wimbledon this year, Soderling had to play some pretty good tennis to comeback and win that, shame he didn't win it, was looking forward to a Hewitt vs Tomic match :(

I'm still very annoyed by Hewitt's loss to Roddick in the quarter finals of 2009 Wimbledon. Those flippin' injuries of his ruined it. I was gutted, because he hadn't played as well in a major since 2005.

CDestroyer
12-28-2011, 12:02 PM
Hewitt: biggest dooshbag. He was always screaming come on right in his opponents face. I wish someone would punch him right in the face, his wife to.

Mustard
12-28-2011, 12:12 PM
Hewitt: biggest dooshbag. He was always screaming come on right in his opponents face. I wish someone would punch him right in the face, his wife to.

C'MON!!!!!!! :twisted:

*Does lawnmower*

CDestroyer
12-28-2011, 12:14 PM
C'MON!!!!!!! :twisted:

*Does lawnmower*

We all know why you like him.

Fruitcake.

LameTennisPlayer
12-28-2011, 12:32 PM
Hewitt: biggest dooshbag. He was always screaming come on right in his opponents face. I wish someone would punch him right in the face, his wife to.

If you don't like Bec Hewitt, then you've got serious gay problems dude :twisted:

Lsmkenpo
12-28-2011, 12:53 PM
An example of his toughness and superior mental strength Hewitt playing with a broken hip beats Nadal. http://bit.ly/vOHDCp

namelessone
12-28-2011, 01:05 PM
An example of his toughness and superior mental strength Hewitt playing with a broken hip beats Nadal. http://bit.ly/vOHDCp

Who hadn't even seen the 4R of any GS up until that point.

Lleyton with his broken hip also beat Clement,Chela,Blake,Nalbandian,Roddick and took a set off Safin in that year's AO.

That's some hip.

Nathaniel_Near
12-28-2011, 01:09 PM
I don't think that peak Hewitt playing the brand of tennis he was playing during his peak days would stand up so well right now, top 10 but not top 5 for long periods of time. The surfaces need to help the pace of his shots and they simply don't, plus he likes a target at the net and to display his outstanding passing capability but wouldn't be given it much in this era. He'd be outgrinded and overpowered often enough and wouldn't really be in any serious contention to win a Slam in my opinion, though he might have found one opportunity.

Lsmkenpo
12-28-2011, 01:25 PM
Who hadn't even seen the 4R of any GS up until that point.

Lleyton with his broken hip also beat Clement,Chela,Blake,Nalbandian,Roddick and took a set off Safin in that year's AO.

That's some hip.

So you think Hewitt was faking a hip injury that has required 2 surgeries during his career.

fps
12-28-2011, 01:26 PM
I don't think that peak Hewitt playing the brand of tennis he was playing during his peak days would stand up so well right now, top 10 but not top 5 for long periods of time. The surfaces need to help the pace of his shots and they simply don't, plus he likes a target at the net and to display his outstanding passing capability but wouldn't be given it much in this era. He'd be outgrinded and overpowered often enough and wouldn't really be in any serious contention to win a Slam in my opinion, though he might have found one opportunity.

I agree with this analysis, and I'm a huge admirer of Hewitt and his fighting qualities. Counterpunching isn't enough in the modern game.

Mustard
12-28-2011, 01:28 PM
So you think Hewitt was faking a hip injury that has required 2 surgeries during his career.

Hewitt didn't have "broken hip" in early 2005, but a hip injury :-?

Lsmkenpo
12-28-2011, 01:31 PM
If anyone watched this years Australia-Swiss Davis cup match played on
a legitimate grass court, they would know how much the slowing of all surfaces has hurt Hewitt's game.

I like Hewitt's chances on a fast grass court versus anyone not named Federer right now.

Mustard
12-28-2011, 01:36 PM
If anyone watched this years Australia-Swiss Davis cup match played on
a legitimate grass court, they would know how much the slowing of all surfaces has hurt Hewitt's game.

I like Hewitt's chances on a fast grass court versus anyone not named Federer right now.

Slowing of all surfaces? That's fantasy. It's a small narrowing of the gap between the surfaces, making them slightly more homogeneous but there are still clear differences, otherwise Nadal would be dominating on hardcourt as much as he does on clay.

What's hurt Hewitt is injuries, virtually one after another since 2005. His late 2005 lay off was the most damaging, as he had clearly lost pace when he returned in 2006.

adidasman
12-28-2011, 01:38 PM
thats got nothing to do with one another

the only reason why cash picks laver is because laver isnt federer -.- Cash picks Laver because it annoys Chopin. :-)

CDestroyer
12-28-2011, 01:39 PM
If you don't like Bec Hewitt, then you've got serious gay problems dude :twisted:

Id hit that no doubt, but she always has that b1tchy look on her face. Doesn't seem like much fun. A trophy wife Id call her.

Lsmkenpo
12-28-2011, 01:46 PM
Slowing of all surfaces? That's fantasy. It's a small narrowing of the gap between the surfaces, making them slightly more homogeneous but there are still clear differences, otherwise Nadal would be dominating on hardcourt as much as he does on clay.

What's hurt Hewitt is injuries, virtually one after another since 2005. His late 2005 lay off was the most damaging, as he had clearly lost pace when he returned in 2006.

BS, you don't know what your talking about and have zero evidence to support your assertion, while the Court Pace Ratings of the AO, Wimbledon and the US Open revealed by the tournament directors proves otherwise.

There are no fast courts left on tour according to the ITF court pace ratings, the only tournament played over the past 2 years classified as a fast court was Bercy last year.

You can not name one tournament that has a fast court pace rating. Pretty much every tournament played is now medium or slow court pacing.

The difference on clay isn't just speed it is player movement, it requires completely different footwork to move on clay than hard court regardless of the pace. If you played tennis you would know that. Other players don't have the footwork to move on clay like Nadal does, on hard court that is a different story.

Mustard
12-28-2011, 01:57 PM
BS, you don't know what your talking about and have zero evidence to support your assertion, while the Court Pace Ratings of the AO, Wimbledon and the US Open revealed by the tournament directors proves otherwise.

And the French Open is faster, therefore there's not been a "slowing of all surfaces" as you claimed.

There are no fast courts left on tour according to the ITF court pace ratings, the only tournament played over the past 2 years classified as a fast court was Bercy last year.

Because there are no carpet tournaments on the tour anymore and the Wimbledon grass-courts are 100% Rye now. Do you even care about the role of technology in slowing down conditions, with the racquets, strings, slower balls etc. At the French Open in 2011, they used faster balls. The weather is also a factor.

The difference on clay isn't just speed it is player movement, it requires completely different footwork to move on clay than hard court regardless of the pace. If you played tennis you would know that.

Yes, I am aware of the different movements required on different surfaces. Therefore, there are clear differences between the surfaces.

gregor.b
12-28-2011, 02:12 PM
So you think Hewitt was faking a hip injury that has required 2 surgeries during his career.

Yeah. Cos' he heard that famous hot TV star wives really dig scars.

Lsmkenpo
12-28-2011, 02:25 PM
And the French Open is faster, therefore there's not been a "slowing of all surfaces" as you claimed.

WTF? Are you truly this ignorant? Gee, I wonder what has more effect on the tour the slowing of the majority of tournaments played or the speeding up of one tournament that still did not change its court pace classification.





Because there are no carpet tournaments on the tour anymore and the Wimbledon grass-courts are 100% Rye now.

It doesn't require carpet to be a fast court, the US Open and Wimbledon used to both be classified as fast court pace rated tournaments but both are now medium paced within a few points of what used to be the only medium paced major the AO. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/7178646.stm



Yes, I am aware of the different movements required on different surfaces.

Than why did you claim that Nadal would dominate on HC as much as he does on clay, if HC were really playing slower? Please, enlighten us to your rationale.

Lsmkenpo
12-28-2011, 02:29 PM
Typical, two *******s can't stand Hewitt getting some attention for his mental and physical strength.

Mustard
12-28-2011, 02:37 PM
WTF? Are you truly this ignorant? Gee, I wonder what has more effect on the tour the slowing of the majority of tournaments played or the speeding up of one tournament that still did not change its court pace classification.

Are you still ignoring the role of technology in the slower conditions?

It doesn't require carpet to be a fast court, the US Open and Wimbledon used to both be classified as fast court pace rated tournaments but both are now medium paced within a few points of what used to be the only medium paced major the AO. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/7178646.stm

And you think technology plays no part in the slower conditions, with the slower balls and how much easier it is to hit such topspin in the rallies because of the new racquet and stringing equipment?

Than why would did you claim that Nadal would dominate on HC as much as he does on clay if HC were really playing slower? Please, enlighten us to your rationale.

If there was virtually no difference in speed and bounce between the different surfaces, then Nadal would have time to set up his shots and dominate the rallies on hardcourt like he does on clay. This is clearly not the case, and it isn't just because of the different footwork required.

TMF
12-28-2011, 02:41 PM
I agree with this analysis, and I'm a huge admirer of Hewitt and his fighting qualities. Counterpunching isn't enough in the modern game.

If Murray had a fraction of Hewitt's mental toughness, he might not be slamless right now.

SLD76
12-28-2011, 02:42 PM
Hewitt: biggest dooshbag. He was always screaming come on right in his opponents face. I wish someone would punch him right in the face, his wife to.

Damn son, what did Becka ever do to you? Rofl.

gregor.b
12-28-2011, 02:44 PM
If Murray had a fraction of Hewitt's mental toughness, he might not be slamless right now.

I don't think this is an unfair comment. Well said.

fps
12-28-2011, 02:47 PM
If Murray had a fraction of Hewitt's mental toughness, he might not be slamless right now.

I absolutely agree!! There are other factors however. Sometimes wanting it isn't enough.

Mustard
12-28-2011, 02:47 PM
Has Hewitt ever shown negative body language on the court? Murray makes this mistake far too often.

TMF
12-28-2011, 02:56 PM
I don't think this is an unfair comment. Well said.
I absolutely agree!!

Thanks. A young Nadal was also a counter puncher and defense oriented, but what separate him apart from Murray was he's mentally tough, focus and determination.

Hewitt without his mental strength would have lessen his accomplishments, that's for sure.

kiki
12-28-2011, 03:00 PM
If anyone watched this years Australia-Swiss Davis cup match played on
a legitimate grass court, they would know how much the slowing of all surfaces has hurt Hewitt's game.

I like Hewitt's chances on a fast grass court versus anyone not named Federer right now.

fast grass????

TMF
12-28-2011, 03:02 PM
fast grass????

You have a problem????

Lsmkenpo
12-28-2011, 03:02 PM
Are you still ignoring the role of technology in the slower conditions?

No, I was responding to your claim that it is a fantasy that surfaces have been slowed. Why, talk about technology now, if you still believe it to be a fantasy.



And you think technology plays no part in the slower conditions, with the slower balls and how much easier it is to hit such topspin in the rallies because of the new racquet and stringing equipment?

So, let me get this straight, you are claiming technology has resulted in slower pace of shot now?


If there was virtually no difference in speed and bounce between the different surfaces, then Nadal would have time to set up his shots and dominate the rallies on hardcourt like he does on clay. This is clearly not the case, and it isn't just because of the different footwork required.

Again. you are only looking at Nadal, and assuming the other players don't improve off of clay. As a surface is slowed down, movement starts to take precedent over shot making. On HC other players on tour are the equal of Nadal in movement. It isn't a coincidence that the 4 best movers on tour are the current top 4 players in the world, but not necessarily the 4 best shot makers.

kiki
12-28-2011, 03:02 PM
Cash picks Laver because it annoys Chopin. :-)

Laver needs no mercy from iliterate tennis watchers...2 gs SPEAKS OF HIMSELF...while no GS Fed speaks for Federer ( and that, with just one fifth of Laver´s competition AT MOSTĦĦĦĦ)

Mustard
12-28-2011, 03:13 PM
No, I was responding to your claim that it is a fantasy that surfaces have been slowed. Why, talk about technology now, if you still believe it to be a fantasy.

The differences between the surfaces have narrowed, just nowhere near as drastically as those who call grass "green clay" etc. There are still clear differences.

So, let me get this straight, you are claiming technology has resulted in slower pace of shot now?

No. I'm claiming it has resulted in more topspiny, heavier shots for the most part, resulting in longer rallies because it's much harder to hit outright winners off such balls.

SLD76
12-28-2011, 03:13 PM
No, I was responding to your claim that it is a fantasy that surfaces have been slowed. Why, talk about technology now, if you still believe it to be a fantasy.




So, let me get this straight, you are claiming technology has resulted in slower pace of shot now?



Again. you are only looking at Nadal, and assuming the other players don't improve off of clay. As a surface is slowed down, movement starts to take precedent over shot making. On HC other players on tour are the equal of Nadal in movement. It isn't a coincidence that the 4 best movers on tour are the current top 4 players in the world, but not necessarily the 4 best shot makers.

If Roger says that since he turned pro in 1998, that the courts have been slowed, I take him at his word.

gregor.b
12-28-2011, 03:26 PM
fast grass????

What's that. Mary J laced with Speed ?

Lsmkenpo
12-28-2011, 03:27 PM
The differences between the surfaces have narrowed, just nowhere near as drastically as those who call grass "green clay" etc. There are still clear differences.

The change is not small if it effects play and changes players chances at success.

Here is Hewitt playing this past year on a fast grass court, he is able to counter punch many winners past Federer, this would not be possible on Wimbledon grass or any other medium paced court right now on tour.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAnzALaO2Ec


No. I'm claiming it has resulted in more topspiny, heavier shots for the most part, resulting in longer rallies because it's much harder to hit outright winners off such balls.

No, I don't believe this is the case at all.

Paul Murphy
12-28-2011, 05:35 PM
If Murray had a fraction of Hewitt's mental toughness, he might not be slamless right now.

Couldn't agree more.

mental midget
12-28-2011, 07:18 PM
Absolutely! Jimmy would have came across the net, slapped Hewitt around, intimidated him, made him cry, out played him. He was a tougher breed of personality than this generation has seen (save a few of the Russion player and Roddick :) )

connors was a momma's boy with a big mouth. hewitt would mop the floor with connors, guaranteed.

Mustard
12-28-2011, 07:29 PM
connors was a momma's boy with a big mouth. hewitt would mop the floor with connors, guaranteed.

Are you aware that Hewitt's mother travelled with him for years? Besides, nobody betters Connors when it comes to bringing the fire to matches, primarily because no other player controlled a crowd's reaction as well, and fed off the energy as effectively, as Connors did.

westside
12-28-2011, 08:11 PM
Has Hewitt ever shown negative body language on the court? Murray makes this mistake far too often.

Only when he's losing at the AO. But can't blame him there, so much pressure on the guy.

Hewitt has always been a player who believes he can win any match, despite the score line. Never seen him give up on court.

BeHappy
12-28-2011, 08:25 PM
Hewitt has never ever made excuses for a loss that I've heard, despite having injury problems that far outshadow Nadal's.

Fedchamp
12-28-2011, 10:35 PM
Id hit that no doubt, but she always has that b1tchy look on her face. Doesn't seem like much fun. A trophy wife Id call her.

Whoa dude! What's she done to deserve that?!

nethawkwenatchee
12-28-2011, 10:49 PM
connors was a momma's boy with a big mouth. hewitt would mop the floor with connors, guaranteed.

Are you aware that Hewitt's mother travelled with him for years? Besides, nobody betters Connors when it comes to bringing the fire to matches, primarily because no other player controlled a crowd's reaction as well, and fed off the energy as effectively, as Connors did.

Mustard is correct here. If you want to talk Mamma's Hewitt might not be the best choice here. Connors Mom was a very tough personality and didn't raise any wimps. She taught Jimmy to play from a young age and also fostered his fiery personality.

Connors worked a crowd and intimidated opponents, ball boys, umpires... whoever it took to get the crowd and the match in his grasp. He would do whatever it took to win a match... if that meant a fist fight.

Fedchamp
12-28-2011, 10:53 PM
Please give up on analysing tennis.

Hmmmm, probably was a bit hasty. I should have said top 10. But the fact remains- we've all been told year after year (post '05) that he'd be a threat at the majors and it never eventuated. Can this all be attributed to his injuries, or have younger players come on the scene and raised the overall level of the game? In the end it's just speculation. Could he have been a major force without his injuries? You can only go on his results.

Fedchamp
12-28-2011, 11:01 PM
Hewitt is one of my favorite players of all time. I agree with Roche. Lleyton is extremely tough, both mentally and physically. He played through a lot of injuries that would have caused other players to retire from matches. Hell, in 2005, he was dealing with a bad hip, spent 20 or so hours on court to make the Australian Open final, and only under the pressure of god-mode Safin did he fold.

As much as I love Roger, I hope Lleyton wins the Oz Open...

True. Some players quit matches for a whole lot less. A lot of players probably would've given the game away with his injuries.In that respect he is very tough.

Sid_Vicious
12-28-2011, 11:01 PM
Id hit that no doubt, but she always has that b1tchy look on her face. Doesn't seem like much fun. A trophy wife Id call her.

lol wow. You call Mustard a "fruitcake" for being a fan of hewitt and then write this piggish post.

It is truly ironic that you dislike Hewitt strongly for being a "big dooshbag".

beast of mallorca
12-29-2011, 12:18 AM
Sid, don't mind CDestroyer. She's a girl or one of those "happy guys" who likes to whine, probably jealous of Bec's pretty face..... pathetic weirdo indeed.

SLD76
12-29-2011, 02:46 AM
The change is not small if it effects play and changes players chances at success.

Here is Hewitt playing this past year on a fast grass court, he is able to counter punch many winners past Federer, this would not be possible on Wimbledon grass or any other medium paced court right now on tour.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAnzALaO2Ec



No, I don't believe this is the case at all.

I live near cape may NJ. In cape may we have a tennis club and one of the pros there worked for many years with the companies that design and build courts for tournaments.

He flat out told me that yes indeed, the court surfaces have systematically and uniformly been slowed down.

namelessone
12-29-2011, 03:49 AM
So you think Hewitt was faking a hip injury that has required 2 surgeries during his career.

That's exactly what I think. :rolleyes:

Lsmkenpo
12-29-2011, 05:16 AM
That's exactly what I think. :rolleyes:

You know I had to ask. :)

http://www.mindtheracket.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Lleyton-Hewitt-Wimbledon-1.jpg

MariaRafael
12-29-2011, 05:43 AM
What a surprise....

And, he's tough because while he constantly gets injured, he comes back and tries to play. he doesn't make excuses, doesn't quit unless he's broken a hip... he soldiers on, refusing to 'go quietly into the night'


Neither does he cry in public like a hysterical wimp, or talk crap about players he lost to, nor swear on court and got penalized for it. He doesn't do enough things for you, hater, to run out of words.

Paul Murphy
12-31-2011, 12:08 AM
Bodo has it right here:

http://blogs.tennis.com/tennisworld/2011/12/tj.html