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OddJack
12-29-2011, 11:31 AM
He said it yesterday.

For half a decade, men's tennis belonged to Roger and Rafa. Or Rafa and Roger. It was a bipolar world order, and they regularly met in the finals of major events to sort out the technicalities of who would be No 1 at any given moment.

Then came Novak Djokovic and the magical 2011 season that vaulted the Serb to No 1, and the cosy company of two had become the crowd of three. Rafael Nadal and Roger Federer, each knocked down a peg, are learning to cope.

"I can't speak for Roger, but I can accept the situation and congratulate Novak," Nadal said yesterday at the International Tennis Complex. "But Roger is not going to be there forever. I won't be there forever. Novak won't be there forever. Tennis changes; the sport changes.

"It's good to have players in the top for a long time, because that's good for the fans. But at the same time it's good to have new people coming in. Not that Novak is anything new; he was No 3 for several years, and he deserved to be there."

Federer said he has had a good rivalry with Djokovic, but agreed that it will never be seen in the same light as his epic duels with Nadal, which included meetings in both the French and Wimbledon finals for three consecutive years through 2008.

"Novak and I have had many exciting matches, but because he usually was 3 or 4 and I was 1 or 2, we often played in the semi-finals," he said. "The rivalry never got to the point that it was with Rafa, and it never will because we were 1-2 for so long. But Novak is a great player, and I respect what he has done."
Like Nadal, he was keen to point out that Djokovic did not materialise from thin air. "Rafa was my main rival, but Novak and [Andy] Murray announced themselves several years ago. It wasn't like he wasn't one of the best.

"He was able to put together a quite extraordinary season. I expect from the three of them, Novak, Rafa and Murray, another extraordinary season. We all played every well in 2011."

Despite Djokovic's 10 championships in 2011, including three slams, and his 41-match winning streak to open the season, Nadal and Federer each are convinced they had very nice seasons - circumscribed only by one man playing out of his mind.

Nadal won three tournaments, including the French Open, and reached seven additional finals, losing six of them to Djokovic. "I was happy. I wasn't perfect, but I was playing really good, not perfect," Nadal said. "Against Djokovic last year I had to be perfect and I wasn't."

Federer won four championships, handed Djokovic his first defeat, at the French, and won the final three tournaments of the season, including the Paris Masters and the ATP World Tour Finals.

Aside from a rocky beginning, "I was very solid all the way through," Federer said. "I haven't lost to someone outside the top 20 for a long time. What was missing was that last breakthrough.

"For me, it was about keeping my cool, keeping sane, not going crazy over multiple tough losses. My reaction since losing to Novak in the US open is what I like.

"I didn't go into a hole and say, 'Oh, my God, I'm terrible. What is happening to me?' Face the fact that you're playing guys who are going well. I haven't lost a match since, and I've been very pleased since."

Nadal and Federer, and the tennis world, are waiting to see if Djokovic can produce another season like he did in 2011.

"Novak will be the favourite to finish at No 1," Federer said. "The question will be whether he can have the same kind of year, which no one expected form him."

Both Nadal and Federer said they would like to return to No 1 this season. If Djokovic stumbles, and they pass him, we might yet see a few more Roger-Rafa finals.
http://www.thenational.ae/sport/tennis/rafael-nadal-admits-the-only-constant-in-world-of-tennis-is-change

nikdom
12-29-2011, 11:33 AM
So much for accepting the situation. The whole interview in another thread where he talks about 2011 is about how he wasn't intense enough and let the opponent dictate play.

The guy is full of baloney.

OddJack
12-29-2011, 11:37 AM
Right?

This is BS taken to a new level by Nadal and his team.

Mustard
12-29-2011, 11:42 AM
It's funny how you all care so much about what Rafa says to journos :)

DRII
12-29-2011, 11:55 AM
It's funny how you all care so much about what Rafa says to journos :)

Exactly, it has gone from fascination to obsession laced with hate! Quite sad!

MichaelNadal
12-29-2011, 12:20 PM
So much for accepting the situation. The whole interview in another thread where he talks about 2011 is about how he wasn't intense enough and let the opponent dictate play.

The guy is full of baloney.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/mikeynitro/memes-untitled29.jpg

OddJack
12-29-2011, 12:22 PM
It's funny how you all care so much about what Rafa says to journos :)

Exactly, it has gone from fascination to obsession laced with hate! Quite sad!

We care about what Rafa Nadal says.

Why do you care about what we say?

If you guys dont care about what Nadal says to journos, why do you care about anything thats said in tt talk by bunch of obsessed haters?
I see you guys posting here everyday?

Amusing stuff, some of you guys.

Mustard
12-29-2011, 12:33 PM
We care about what Rafa Nadal says.

Why do you care about what we say?

We care because you're hating on Nadal for the sake of it.

SLD76
12-29-2011, 12:36 PM
I respect you alot mustard, but that last statement is just ridiculous.

As if rafa cares what anyone here has to say.

DRII
12-29-2011, 12:46 PM
I respect you alot mustard, but that last statement is just ridiculous.

As if rafa cares what anyone here has to say.

He alluded to no such thing! Most posters post on this forum because we like and care about tennis. The fact that many of us are calling out the blatant Nadal hate on this board shouldn't be a surprise! It's becoming ludicrous and obsessive!

_maxi
12-29-2011, 12:53 PM
He alluded to no such thing! Most posters post on this forum because we like and care about tennis. The fact that many of us are calling out the blatant Nadal hate on this board shouldn't be a surprise! It's becoming ludicrous and obsessive!
No. It's a response to the stupidity and naiveness of a lot of fans of Nadal that post here. The mature and responsible people don't want to let the liars remain unexposed. Mustard, as a Marxist, should know and apply that.

jones101
12-29-2011, 12:55 PM
Im curious to see what Nadal shows up in 2012, he does not sound condifent and I suspect he is using February to try and find his game, as he has a ton of points to defend from IW onwards.

But if his shoulder is botherig him, why not rest it between now and Doha, get a match or two in Kooyong if necessary, then try and play the AO? At least he'll be more healed and doesn't have a lot to defend at AO, so a bad result would not matter as much.

Rafa seems to have crazy scheduling.

namelessone
12-29-2011, 12:58 PM
No. It's a response to the stupidity and naiveness of a lot of fans of Nadal that post here. The mature and responsible people don't want to let the liars remain unexposed. Mustard, as a Marxist, should know and apply that.

On the internet? In the *******s camp?

GTFO.

Some of the biggest and longtime trolls(outside of "classics" like gj and the various zilla/nadalwonwhatever accounts) I've seen around here have been declared Fed fans(or at least sympathizers) and unlike the jokes that are/were ********* and such they expect to be taken seriously while displaying very questionable humor about Nadal(or sometimes even full on insults).

OddJack
12-29-2011, 02:01 PM
Hmmm, now if we talk about what he says we are haters.

"Hate" is the fallacy created by Nadal fans because there is no other argument. Lets be honest here. We are all here to talk about this stuff, since when " who cares what Nadal says to press"???
Get real dude

Homeboy Hotel
12-29-2011, 02:43 PM
"I can't speak for Roger, but I can accept the situation and congratulate Novak," Nadal said yesterday at the International Tennis Complex. "But Roger is not going to be there forever. I won't be there forever. Novak won't be there forever. Tennis changes; the sport changes.
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BUT MURRAY WILL BE! He'll be around forever! Future GOAT4lyffff

DjokovicForTheWin
12-29-2011, 06:49 PM
The hypocrisy displayed by re***** is alarming

tusharlovesrafa
12-29-2011, 07:08 PM
It's funny how you all care so much about what Rafa says to journos :)

Apparently oddhack is becoming a "thread poasting machine".He will google "rafa" and find some news regarding him and post this and then susequently he will start "BASHING" rafa in coming posts.Then slowly his family members will join in with likes of pokovicforthewin,nikdom and sexi-maxi who will bash rafa to death..:)

OddJack
12-29-2011, 07:14 PM
Apparently oddhack is becoming a "thread poasting machine".He will google "rafa" and find some news regarding him and post this and then susequently he will start "BASHING" rafa in coming posts.Then slowly his family members will join in with likes of pokovicforthewin,nikdom and sexi-maxi who will bash rafa to death..:)

Long as you keep smiling its ok tushar, let Nadal or whoever get bashed or whatever..there will be another day tomorrow:)

OddJack
12-29-2011, 07:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fNtHFCBbzo

You can tell there is a shoulder injury, right tushar?

namelessone
12-29-2011, 11:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fNtHFCBbzo

You can tell there is a shoulder injury, right tushar?

Have you ever heard of infiltrations/painkillers?

Or should Nadal hold his shoulder in pain on every shot?

rrito
12-30-2011, 12:23 AM
whats up with all the arguing?
roger and rafa are friends and have a lot of respect for each other, that's a fact. federer and nadal don't give a damn about the insults their fans toss at each other

Sentinel
12-30-2011, 12:40 AM
Nice mature interview from Sir Rafa.

Zildite
12-30-2011, 12:49 AM
So much for accepting the situation. The whole interview in another thread where he talks about 2011 is about how he wasn't intense enough and let the opponent dictate play.

The guy is full of baloney.

Whats the problem here? This situation (Novak dominating 2011) and that situation (Nadal's self-perceived problems with his game) are two separate things.

namelessone
12-30-2011, 12:56 AM
Whats the problem here? This situation (Novak dominating 2011) and that situation (Nadal's self-perceived problems with his game) are two separate things.

Screw you for your common sense.

beast of mallorca
12-30-2011, 01:03 AM
Whats the problem here? This situation (Novak dominating 2011) and that situation (Nadal's self-perceived problems with his game) are two separate things.

You do understand that Nikdom and more than half of the TW community are Rafa haters who would despise even the cup of water that Rafa drinks, so no question there. Just laugh it off, buddy.

namelessone
12-30-2011, 01:04 AM
You do understand that Nikdom and more than half of the TW community are Rafa haters who would despise even the cup of water that Rafa drinks, so no question there. Just laugh it off, buddy.

Let's be fair, they would only despise it if it wasn't tested for doping agents.

Crisstti
12-30-2011, 07:15 AM
So much for accepting the situation. The whole interview in another thread where he talks about 2011 is about how he wasn't intense enough and let the opponent dictate play.

The guy is full of baloney.

Do you guys even understand what you read? :confused:

There's nothing contradictory about accepting the situation and thinking that the way he himself played had to do with the result. Nothing at all.

Crisstti
12-30-2011, 07:17 AM
Whats the problem here? This situation (Novak dominating 2011) and that situation (Nadal's self-perceived problems with his game) are two separate things.

Lots of people just don't understand what they read. They really don't.

OddJack
12-30-2011, 07:20 AM
Screw you for your common sense.

nameless And classless. Add to that clueless and you have one typical fan defending his God at all costs.

OddJack
12-30-2011, 07:26 AM
Why is Nadal attaching Rodge to himself and his "situation" so much? not there for ever?? You are 5 years younger Duh!!? You speak like you are past 30 and close to retirement??
Your situation is nothing like Rodge, get help somewhere else old man

Hitman
12-30-2011, 07:27 AM
Why is Nadal attaching Rodge to himself and his "situation" so much? not there for ever?? You are 5 years younger Duh!!? You speak like you are past 30 and close to retirement??
Your situation is nothing like Rodge, get help somewhere else old man

Him and Rog are a team. :)

tusharlovesrafa
12-30-2011, 07:29 AM
Let's be fair, they would only despise it if it wasn't tested for doping agents.

You do understand that Nikdom and more than half of the TW community are Rafa haters who would despise even the cup of water that Rafa drinks, so no question there. Just laugh it off, buddy.

His pasta should also be tested, he might be taking drugs thru his pasta:).

Crisstti
12-30-2011, 07:42 AM
Why is Nadal attaching Rodge to himself and his "situation" so much? not there for ever?? You are 5 years younger Duh!!? You speak like you are past 30 and close to retirement??
Your situation is nothing like Rodge, get help somewhere else old man

Did you notice he also mentioned Novak there (who is 24)?. Guess you didn't.

OddJack
12-30-2011, 07:57 AM
Did you notice he also mentioned Novak there (who is 24)?. Guess you didn't.

LOL,

Sure, but he mentioned Novak as having his time at the top, and that he eventually goes away too.

But he attached himself to Rodge as of the two that had their time already.

You know what I mean crisstti, dont try to make excuses like he does.


If Novak is 24 then Rafa should identify more with Novak, not Rodge.

OddJack
12-30-2011, 07:59 AM
http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa331/jacksonvile/ilhat.jpg

This cat looks seriously sick, is it a cat ??

You must have abused it.

Please dont post scary pix here, there are women and children on these boards

Sentinel
12-30-2011, 08:03 AM
Let's be fair, they would only despise it if it wasn't tested for doping agents.
Very funny (sarc), you would remember that in the last poll we had, most of us Fed fans said we would be surprised if Rafa was doping. Check it out.
There were some pretty unexpected results, can't recall. (I can understand its hard for some to figure out when we are joking).

Why is Nadal attaching Rodge to himself and his "situation" so much? not there for ever?? You are 5 years younger Duh!!? You speak like you are past 30 and close to retirement??
Your situation is nothing like Rodge, get help somewhere else old man
Yeah, how dare Rafa suggest that Roger is not forever. He should know that Roger ain't mortal - ignorant chap.:)

Sentinel
12-30-2011, 08:04 AM
This cat looks seriously sick, is it a cat ??

You must have abused it.

Please dont post scary pix here, there are women and children on these boards
What you meant to say was ... there are *cough* .... :D

tusharlovesrafa
12-30-2011, 08:08 AM
What you meant to say was ... there are *cough* .... :D

He meant that CAT got b...... and that led to it having AIDS..

Crisstti
12-30-2011, 12:10 PM
LOL,

Sure, but he mentioned Novak as having his time at the top, and that he eventually goes away too.

But he attached himself to Rodge as of the two that had their time already.

You know what I mean crisstti, dont try to make excuses like he does.


If Novak is 24 then Rafa should identify more with Novak, not Rodge.

Rafa simply made a comment about how no player stays at the top forever anyway. He didn't exactly attack himself more to Roger nor to Novak... he is closer in age to Novak, but he has played Roger since the beginning of his career, and he has been 1 or 2 for years, winning slams every year for years... which makes his situation more similar to Roger's than to Novak's.